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Another nail in the W98 coffin?
Surprise, surprise.
Guess what has found it's way back onto the Start Add/Remove list a couple of times? Without asking! Without clicking 'Yes' to anything! Yep! Adobe Flash X. Deleted and uninstalled twice. Once when I was just checking the list for something and once when I was checking the list for IT after getting that error message again. Could Adobe Reader 5 or MSNBC be doing it automatically if they think I need it? Haven't used Adobe Reader in at least a week. Will not visit MSNBC for a while and then maybe dump Adobe Reader, too. Maybe I can figure out how/why it keeps re-insinuating itself. "Dan" wrote in message news You are most welcome. It is usually fairly easy to remove software and then do a clean install of the software in Windows 98/98 Second Edition. Unfortunately, things can get more complicated in Windows XP with more junk scattered throughout more folders. I like to operate under the mantra if you don't need the program or service then just remove it and add it back on when a web-site comes up that actually needs it and you actually want to use the website. I had to remove Adobe Flash and Macromedia stuff as well as the Adobe Reader because they got corrupted a while ago. If Internet Explorer 6 gets corrupted in 98 Second Edition you can always do a repair of IE 6 that should bring it back to its original state. A lot of errors and BSOD's were caused by third party software drivers that were written poorly for 98 Second Edition back around 1998(1999)-2003. "keith" wrote: 'Add/remov'ed Macromedia Flash item and used Adobe site's uninstall option. Find Files and folders 'adobe' and 'flash' still showed some related items. Mostly in Applications data and assorted Temp files. Just highlighted and deleted the obvious stuff. Left Adobe Reader alone. Almost two days now without that error message. Fingers crossed. Even the larger occasional 'Microsoft IE has encountered a problem......, send or don't send report' error message seems in remission. Pretty much begs the obvious question - Do I really need the Flash thing? Have seen 'Flash Player not installed' in a few add spaces on some pages but other than that I've been doing what I usually do with this machine without any appearant problems. Looking back over the thread - in a comment I made about Firefox speed I'd meant to say 'hell, this thing has a distributor and points'. Sometimes I miss tinkering and tweaking those things.A few basic tools and a couple of beers and all was well. Thanks again. "Dan" wrote in message ... Keith, please remove all adobe and macromedia flash player stuff and then reboot and install what you need again. It sounds not too serious but that the flash player and Adobe Macromedia stuff has been corrupted some how. Hopefully, removal will not give you any errors but if so still let us know in 98 General and we will keep trying to help you with your issues. "keith" wrote: PS: Same details for subsequent error messages. "keith" wrote in message ... Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx problem Error message from last event: Iexplo This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut down If the problem persists, contact program vendor. Details: IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at 017f:30055b27. Registers: EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202 EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f Stack dump: 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 ff010101 Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events. Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum postings for same/similar problem. Have been reading and printing some of them. Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising. Will follow up soon. Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that "Dan" wrote in message ... You're welcome. Please keep us informed. "keith" wrote: Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and downloaded again. Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to it. Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was enabled or not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. All in all, so far so good with Firefox. Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'. Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far afield. Thanks much. "Dan" wrote in message ... Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website recently. It is on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE 6 is acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet Explorer 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. "keith" wrote: Thanks, Tim. Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but never really investigated. DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 is having problems with. Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international reply bounces back) "Tim Slattery" wrote in message ... "keith" wrote: Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS as in MicroSoft. W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a while back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE icon but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that will work with Win98. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) http://members.cox.net/slatteryt |
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Another nail in the W98 coffin?
"keith" wrote in message ... | Surprise, surprise. | Guess what has found it's way back onto the Start Add/Remove list a couple | of times? | Without asking! Without clicking 'Yes' to anything! | Yep! Adobe Flash X. Deleted and uninstalled twice. | Once when I was just checking the list for something and once when I was | checking the list for IT after getting that error message again. | | Could Adobe Reader 5 or MSNBC be doing it automatically if they think I need | it? | Haven't used Adobe Reader in at least a week. | | Will not visit MSNBC for a while and then maybe dump Adobe Reader, too. | Maybe I can figure out how/why it keeps re-insinuating itself. Make sure you do NOT have Enable Install on Demand (both/either) checked in IE {Advanced Settings] or any other browser [whatever respective term] to allow this to occur. Also check Prompt for the various scripting allowances in Security, Java, and other setable areas. Do a HD search for Flash and ShockWave [likely in System and/or User profile] -- MEB a Peoples' counsel -- _________ | | "Dan" wrote in message | news | You are most welcome. It is usually fairly easy to remove software and | then | do a clean install of the software in Windows 98/98 Second Edition. | Unfortunately, things can get more complicated in Windows XP with more | junk | scattered throughout more folders. I like to operate under the mantra if | you | don't need the program or service then just remove it and add it back on | when | a web-site comes up that actually needs it and you actually want to use | the | website. I had to remove Adobe Flash and Macromedia stuff as well as the | Adobe Reader because they got corrupted a while ago. If Internet Explorer | 6 | gets corrupted in 98 Second Edition you can always do a repair of IE 6 | that | should bring it back to its original state. A lot of errors and BSOD's | were | caused by third party software drivers that were written poorly for 98 | Second | Edition back around 1998(1999)-2003. | | "keith" wrote: | | 'Add/remov'ed Macromedia Flash item and used Adobe site's uninstall | option. | Find Files and folders 'adobe' and 'flash' still showed some | related | items. Mostly in Applications data and assorted Temp files. | Just highlighted and deleted the obvious stuff. Left Adobe Reader alone. | Almost two days now without that error message. Fingers crossed. | Even the larger occasional 'Microsoft IE has encountered a | problem......, | send or don't send report' error message seems in remission. | | Pretty much begs the obvious question - Do I really need the Flash | thing? | Have seen 'Flash Player not installed' in a few add spaces on some pages | but | other than that I've been doing what I usually do with this machine | without | any appearant problems. | | Looking back over the thread - | in a comment I made about Firefox speed I'd meant to say 'hell, this | thing | has a distributor and points'. | Sometimes I miss tinkering and tweaking those things.A few basic tools | and a | couple of beers and all was well. | | Thanks again. | | "Dan" wrote in message | ... | Keith, please remove all adobe and macromedia flash player stuff and | then | reboot and install what you need again. It sounds not too serious but | that | the flash player and Adobe Macromedia stuff has been corrupted some | how. | Hopefully, removal will not give you any errors but if so still let us | know | in 98 General and we will keep trying to help you with your issues. | | "keith" wrote: | | PS: Same details for subsequent error messages. | "keith" wrote in message | ... | Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx | problem | | Error message from last event: | Iexplo | This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut | down | If the problem persists, contact program vendor. | | Details: | IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at | 017f:30055b27. | Registers: | EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202 | EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc | ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf | EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000 | Bytes at CS:EIP: | 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f | Stack dump: | 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 | ff010101 | ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 | ff010101 | | Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events. | Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum | postings | for same/similar problem. | Have been reading and printing some of them. | Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising. | Will follow up soon. | Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that | | "Dan" wrote in message | ... | You're welcome. Please keep us informed. | | "keith" wrote: | | Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on | this | machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. | Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and | downloaded | again. | Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. | It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' | copied | to | it. | Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. | Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it | was | enabled | or | not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. | All in all, so far so good with Firefox. | Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those | 'glitches'. | | Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little | too | far | afield. | | Thanks much. | | "Dan" wrote in message | ... | Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website | recently. | It | is | on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel | that IE | 6 | is | acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of | Internet | Explorer | 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. | | "keith" wrote: | | Thanks, Tim. | Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while | surfing | but | never | really investigated. | DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. | But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only | one | that | IE6 | is | having problems with. | Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, | international | reply | bounces back) | | "Tim Slattery" wrote in message | ... | "keith" wrote: | | Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a | few | years. | Thats MS | as | in MicroSoft. | W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and | improved | website a | while | back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this | computer | and | are | avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other | news | sites. | | But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. | | MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there | from | the | desktop | IE | icon | but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I | try to | go | there | | Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version | 2.x | will | work | with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any | version | of IE | that | will work with Win98. | | -- | Tim Slattery | MS MVP(Shell/User) | | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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Another nail in the W98 coffin?
Keith, you may be infected with software baddies:
Follow MEB's advice below as well as I would suggest customizing Internet Explorer settings, blocking 3rd party cookies and not allowing session cookies by using the advanced tab in the latest version of IE for 98, please make sure if you use JAVA that you have the latest JAVA version installed as well as removing all prior versions, etc. Here is a list I would also suggest for starters: 1. Install SpywareBlaster --- it stops a lot of baddies from getting onto Windows 98 2. What antivirus and software firewall are you using -- are they infected? 3. If you have Windows 98 Scripting Host installed --- Remove it 4. Install and use another browser like Mozilla Firefox 2.x latest version 5. Are you using a hardware router and if so -- what kind of router? 6. Are you connected by a wire or wirelessly? 7. Are you using broadband or narrowband? 8. Are you reading email in plain text and blocking remote images? 9. Install Spybot Search and Destroy and do a full scan for baddies 10. Do you notice any other funny or small software in add/remove programs? This should get you started with making your internet browsing experience safer "keith" wrote: Surprise, surprise. Guess what has found it's way back onto the Start Add/Remove list a couple of times? Without asking! Without clicking 'Yes' to anything! Yep! Adobe Flash X. Deleted and uninstalled twice. Once when I was just checking the list for something and once when I was checking the list for IT after getting that error message again. Could Adobe Reader 5 or MSNBC be doing it automatically if they think I need it? Haven't used Adobe Reader in at least a week. Will not visit MSNBC for a while and then maybe dump Adobe Reader, too. Maybe I can figure out how/why it keeps re-insinuating itself. "Dan" wrote in message news You are most welcome. It is usually fairly easy to remove software and then do a clean install of the software in Windows 98/98 Second Edition. Unfortunately, things can get more complicated in Windows XP with more junk scattered throughout more folders. I like to operate under the mantra if you don't need the program or service then just remove it and add it back on when a web-site comes up that actually needs it and you actually want to use the website. I had to remove Adobe Flash and Macromedia stuff as well as the Adobe Reader because they got corrupted a while ago. If Internet Explorer 6 gets corrupted in 98 Second Edition you can always do a repair of IE 6 that should bring it back to its original state. A lot of errors and BSOD's were caused by third party software drivers that were written poorly for 98 Second Edition back around 1998(1999)-2003. "keith" wrote: 'Add/remov'ed Macromedia Flash item and used Adobe site's uninstall option. Find Files and folders 'adobe' and 'flash' still showed some related items. Mostly in Applications data and assorted Temp files. Just highlighted and deleted the obvious stuff. Left Adobe Reader alone. Almost two days now without that error message. Fingers crossed. Even the larger occasional 'Microsoft IE has encountered a problem......, send or don't send report' error message seems in remission. Pretty much begs the obvious question - Do I really need the Flash thing? Have seen 'Flash Player not installed' in a few add spaces on some pages but other than that I've been doing what I usually do with this machine without any appearant problems. Looking back over the thread - in a comment I made about Firefox speed I'd meant to say 'hell, this thing has a distributor and points'. Sometimes I miss tinkering and tweaking those things.A few basic tools and a couple of beers and all was well. Thanks again. "Dan" wrote in message ... Keith, please remove all adobe and macromedia flash player stuff and then reboot and install what you need again. It sounds not too serious but that the flash player and Adobe Macromedia stuff has been corrupted some how. Hopefully, removal will not give you any errors but if so still let us know in 98 General and we will keep trying to help you with your issues. "keith" wrote: PS: Same details for subsequent error messages. "keith" wrote in message ... Looks like a Flash player - Adobe - Macromedia - flash9f.ocx problem Error message from last event: Iexplo This program has performed an illegal operatio and will be shut down If the problem persists, contact program vendor. Details: IEXPLORE executed an invalid instruction in module FLASH9F.OCX at 017f:30055b27. Registers: EAX=00000008 CS=017f EIP=30055b27 EFLGS=00010202 EBX=041ed060 SS=0187 ESP=0064a130 EBP=0064a4dc ECX=00000008 DS=0187 ESI=0064a140 FS=37cf EDX=00000001 ES=0187 EDI=0064a578 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 0f 70 c8 e4 0f 60 c7 0f 70 da e4 0f 68 cf 0f 7f Stack dump: 00000021 041f2e70 0064a578 00f60000 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 ff010101 ff000000 ff010101 ff000000 ff000000 ff000000 ff010101 ff010101 Not sure if 'Details' have been the same for other events. Google search for 'flash9.ocx error' shows lots of assorted forum postings for same/similar problem. Have been reading and printing some of them. Adobe fixes and/or flash9.ocx file renaming trick look promising. Will follow up soon. Still wonder why msnbc.com is ONLY visited site that "Dan" wrote in message ... You're welcome. Please keep us informed. "keith" wrote: Firefox speed may be a bit slower but hard to tell for sure on this machine - hell, this thing has a carbureter and points. Was having some 'problems' with Firefox and off-loaded it and downloaded again. Not really any 'problems', just a learning curve issue. It's set as default browser for now and got my 'favorites' copied to it. Might even try an msnbc.com video - to crash or not to crash. Is Java a good thing and/or really necessary? Not sure if it was enabled or not or being used by IE6. Never paid much attention. All in all, so far so good with Firefox. Will also try IE6 again for a while to see about those 'glitches'. Seems some of this thread disappeared. Maybe it went a little too far afield. Thanks much. "Dan" wrote in message ... Keith, msnbc.com website had some glitches in their website recently. It is on their end and nothing to be concerned about. If you feel that IE 6 is acting poorly all over than you could always do a repair of Internet Explorer 6 if we get to that point on Windows 98. "keith" wrote: Thanks, Tim. Have certainly seen numerous references to Mozilla while surfing but never really investigated. DL'd Firefox 2.x with basic set-up and will give it a try. But still wonder why the MSNBC.com web site is the only one that IE6 is having problems with. Maybe I'll ask them. (and see what kind of automated, international reply bounces back) "Tim Slattery" wrote in message ... "keith" wrote: Have been using MSNBC news as my homepage for quite a few years. Thats MS as in MicroSoft. W98 didn't seem to care too much for their new and improved website a while back and any vid from that site would/will freeze this computer and are avoided like the plague. No problem with vids on other news sites. But there has been an odd intermittent problem of late. MSNBC.com site will open just fine when I get there from the desktop IE icon but "internet explorer cannot open the site..." if I try to go there Have you tried the site with Firefox? Firefox version 2.x will work with Win98, and is *much* more up-to-date than any version of IE that will work with Win98. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) http://members.cox.net/slatteryt |
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