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Geek may have told your husband about www.ati,com but if you check you
will see I also told you this some days ago. :-) If Dell didn't supply the Radeon card then it isn't rally a surprise that they didn't have the drivers. Much better in nearly all cases to go to the manufacturer's site which is why I mentioned www.ati.com some days ago. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Susan wrote: Everything is now solved! Geek told husband about www.ati.com for Radeon driver and I downloaded it and went back to the PCI setting. Don't know why Dell site did not have driver for Radeon card on it when I used service tag to search for drivers. |
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Mike, I am sorry I did not heed your advice. It sure would have saved me
time and everybody else trying to help me. I thought that I would have to know model #? of card and that I would not be able to figure out right drivers by just going to a site. I should have looked further and heeded your advice. Susan "Mike M" wrote in message ... Geek may have told your husband about www.ati,com but if you check you will see I also told you this some days ago. :-) If Dell didn't supply the Radeon card then it isn't rally a surprise that they didn't have the drivers. Much better in nearly all cases to go to the manufacturer's site which is why I mentioned www.ati.com some days ago. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Susan wrote: Everything is now solved! Geek told husband about www.ati.com for Radeon driver and I downloaded it and went back to the PCI setting. Don't know why Dell site did not have driver for Radeon card on it when I used service tag to search for drivers. |
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Susan,
LOL. Been there done that. You don't think I follow my own advice do you. vbg If there are two or more ways of doing something I can guarantee that being perverse as I am I will ALWAYS choose the longest. Cheers, Mike Susan wrote: Mike, I am sorry I did not heed your advice. It sure would have saved me time and everybody else trying to help me. I thought that I would have to know model #? of card and that I would not be able to figure out right drivers by just going to a site. I should have looked further and heeded your advice. |
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Susan, your situation is not serious problem and I have found this thread
interesting. I suspect you, the husband, and the noted "geek" have learned something useful here. FYI, both ATI and nVidia now release their video driver set as a "Unified Driver", which means you DL one huge file, which when run interrogates your system to determine which video card model is installed, and then loads the appropriate driver set. For those with broadband, it's a real convenience. For the dial-up crowd, it's a PITA. Nvidia releases their mainboard driver set in a similar manner. Note that it is the video processor chip website that you want to get the latest driver at, and not necessarily the vendor of the video card. That vendor may not be doing any driver development, anyway. FWIW, my seven year old grand daughter now uses an ancient Celeron box for her simple Win98 "Barbie" and "Bratz" games. It uses an early Intel Extreme Graphics video system on the mainboard. I upgraded this to a modern 128 MB nVidia FX 5200 video system, Chaintech, I think, with little problem. The only twist is that the BIOS permits me to direct the initial boot detection to the add-in PCI video card, but offers no way to disable the on-board Intel Extrreme Graphics. So at boot, the Hardware wizard wants to reinstall the Intel video driver, which she just cancels. This occurs even though I have disabled the Intel video device in the current Hardware Profile. One last question, Susan: So what is your ATI video card? CPU model and speed? Amount of RAM? Curious minds want to know! -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Susan" wrote in message ... Mike, I am sorry I did not heed your advice. It sure would have saved me time and everybody else trying to help me. I thought that I would have to know model #? of card and that I would not be able to figure out right drivers by just going to a site. I should have looked further and heeded your advice. Susan "Mike M" wrote in message ... Geek may have told your husband about www.ati,com but if you check you will see I also told you this some days ago. :-) If Dell didn't supply the Radeon card then it isn't rally a surprise that they didn't have the drivers. Much better in nearly all cases to go to the manufacturer's site which is why I mentioned www.ati.com some days ago. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Susan wrote: Everything is now solved! Geek told husband about www.ati.com for Radeon driver and I downloaded it and went back to the PCI setting. Don't know why Dell site did not have driver for Radeon card on it when I used service tag to search for drivers. |
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Thank you so much! Yes I took the long way around, but I learned more.
Jack, everytime I eat pita bread I will think of you. It took me a second to figure out what PITA meant! I just looked at the msinfo32 results. CPU type is Intel Celeron II 700 MHz Under Display, 3D Accelerator is ATI RV100 DDR - is that the ATI you are talking about? RAM is 128 MB which I plan to upgrade since 128MB is not enough anymore for Internet access. Susan "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... Susan, your situation is not serious problem and I have found this thread interesting. I suspect you, the husband, and the noted "geek" have learned something useful here. FYI, both ATI and nVidia now release their video driver set as a "Unified Driver", which means you DL one huge file, which when run interrogates your system to determine which video card model is installed, and then loads the appropriate driver set. For those with broadband, it's a real convenience. For the dial-up crowd, it's a PITA. Nvidia releases their mainboard driver set in a similar manner. Note that it is the video processor chip website that you want to get the latest driver at, and not necessarily the vendor of the video card. That vendor may not be doing any driver development, anyway. FWIW, my seven year old grand daughter now uses an ancient Celeron box for her simple Win98 "Barbie" and "Bratz" games. It uses an early Intel Extreme Graphics video system on the mainboard. I upgraded this to a modern 128 MB nVidia FX 5200 video system, Chaintech, I think, with little problem. The only twist is that the BIOS permits me to direct the initial boot detection to the add-in PCI video card, but offers no way to disable the on-board Intel Extrreme Graphics. So at boot, the Hardware wizard wants to reinstall the Intel video driver, which she just cancels. This occurs even though I have disabled the Intel video device in the current Hardware Profile. One last question, Susan: So what is your ATI video card? CPU model and speed? Amount of RAM? Curious minds want to know! -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Susan" wrote in message ... Mike, I am sorry I did not heed your advice. It sure would have saved me time and everybody else trying to help me. I thought that I would have to know model #? of card and that I would not be able to figure out right drivers by just going to a site. I should have looked further and heeded your advice. Susan "Mike M" wrote in message ... Geek may have told your husband about www.ati,com but if you check you will see I also told you this some days ago. :-) If Dell didn't supply the Radeon card then it isn't rally a surprise that they didn't have the drivers. Much better in nearly all cases to go to the manufacturer's site which is why I mentioned www.ati.com some days ago. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Susan wrote: Everything is now solved! Geek told husband about www.ati.com for Radeon driver and I downloaded it and went back to the PCI setting. Don't know why Dell site did not have driver for Radeon card on it when I used service tag to search for drivers. |
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Your Celeron II 700 MHz is pretty ancient stuff now. This box will never be
a modern gaming machine. It's a fine e-mailing, surfing, word processing machine. So I recommend continuing with the current ATI video card, which my quick and dirty Google search suggests is the Radeon® 7000 / Radeon® VE http://www.ati.com/products/radeon7000/radeon7000/ You will have to examine physically the card to confirm. A label or silkscreen should have the info. While this card is so ancient, it is the third slowest video card, at 12.4 fps, in Tom's Hardware Guide first review of video cards, April 18, 2002, where it is named the Radeon VE, http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...charts-01.html I don't doubt it runs rings around the on-board Intel video system, using either 32 or 64 MB of on-board DDR memory vs. the Intel shared system memory. FWIW, every card on this THG, VGA Charts I, graph is far slower than the slowest, modern FX5200 nVidia or Radeon 9250 card, available for ca. $50 today. But I doubt your cpu and memory can even begin to drive those video card to their limits. I also recommend installing another 128 MB, or 256, if funds permit, of what is most likely PC100 or PC133 sdram. Perhaps, $US 25 - 45, after common rebates from major memory vendors through big box retailers. Lower price over the Internet. After doing so, your WinME will seldom need to use the swapfile, under normal situations. And thanks for your prompt response. Happy computing now! -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Susan" wrote in message ... Thank you so much! Yes I took the long way around, but I learned more. Jack, everytime I eat pita bread I will think of you. It took me a second to figure out what PITA meant! I just looked at the msinfo32 results. CPU type is Intel Celeron II 700 MHz Under Display, 3D Accelerator is ATI RV100 DDR - is that the ATI you are talking about? RAM is 128 MB which I plan to upgrade since 128MB is not enough anymore for Internet access. Susan "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... Susan, your situation is not serious problem and I have found this thread interesting. I suspect you, the husband, and the noted "geek" have learned something useful here. FYI, both ATI and nVidia now release their video driver set as a "Unified Driver", which means you DL one huge file, which when run interrogates your system to determine which video card model is installed, and then loads the appropriate driver set. For those with broadband, it's a real convenience. For the dial-up crowd, it's a PITA. Nvidia releases their mainboard driver set in a similar manner. Note that it is the video processor chip website that you want to get the latest driver at, and not necessarily the vendor of the video card. That vendor may not be doing any driver development, anyway. FWIW, my seven year old grand daughter now uses an ancient Celeron box for her simple Win98 "Barbie" and "Bratz" games. It uses an early Intel Extreme Graphics video system on the mainboard. I upgraded this to a modern 128 MB nVidia FX 5200 video system, Chaintech, I think, with little problem. The only twist is that the BIOS permits me to direct the initial boot detection to the add-in PCI video card, but offers no way to disable the on-board Intel Extrreme Graphics. So at boot, the Hardware wizard wants to reinstall the Intel video driver, which she just cancels. This occurs even though I have disabled the Intel video device in the current Hardware Profile. One last question, Susan: So what is your ATI video card? CPU model and speed? Amount of RAM? Curious minds want to know! -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Susan" wrote in message ... Mike, I am sorry I did not heed your advice. It sure would have saved me time and everybody else trying to help me. I thought that I would have to know model #? of card and that I would not be able to figure out right drivers by just going to a site. I should have looked further and heeded your advice. Susan "Mike M" wrote in message ... Geek may have told your husband about www.ati,com but if you check you will see I also told you this some days ago. :-) If Dell didn't supply the Radeon card then it isn't rally a surprise that they didn't have the drivers. Much better in nearly all cases to go to the manufacturer's site which is why I mentioned www.ati.com some days ago. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Susan wrote: Everything is now solved! Geek told husband about www.ati.com for Radeon driver and I downloaded it and went back to the PCI setting. Don't know why Dell site did not have driver for Radeon card on it when I used service tag to search for drivers. |
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I'd concur with the RAM upgrade, but why the videocard unless Susan is
planning on playing modernish 3D-intensive games. Rick ps: why don't you install the Intel drivers *then* choose "Do not use in this Hardware profile" ? Jack E Martinelli wrote: Your Celeron II 700 MHz is pretty ancient stuff now. This box will never be a modern gaming machine. It's a fine e-mailing, surfing, word processing machine. So I recommend continuing with the current ATI video card, which my quick and dirty Google search suggests is the Radeon® 7000 / Radeon® VE http://www.ati.com/products/radeon7000/radeon7000/ You will have to examine physically the card to confirm. A label or silkscreen should have the info. While this card is so ancient, it is the third slowest video card, at 12.4 fps, in Tom's Hardware Guide first review of video cards, April 18, 2002, where it is named the Radeon VE, http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...charts-01.html I don't doubt it runs rings around the on-board Intel video system, using either 32 or 64 MB of on-board DDR memory vs. the Intel shared system memory. FWIW, every card on this THG, VGA Charts I, graph is far slower than the slowest, modern FX5200 nVidia or Radeon 9250 card, available for ca. $50 today. But I doubt your cpu and memory can even begin to drive those video card to their limits. I also recommend installing another 128 MB, or 256, if funds permit, of what is most likely PC100 or PC133 sdram. Perhaps, $US 25 - 45, after common rebates from major memory vendors through big box retailers. Lower price over the Internet. After doing so, your WinME will seldom need to use the swapfile, under normal situations. And thanks for your prompt response. Happy computing now! |
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"Mike M" wrote in message ... Susan, LOL. Been there done that. You don't think I follow my own advice do you. vbg If there are two or more ways of doing something I can guarantee that being perverse as I am I will ALWAYS choose the longest. Isn't that part of the specification for getting to be an MVP??? -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's |
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Noel Paton wrote:
LOL. Been there done that. You don't think I follow my own advice do you. vbg If there are two or more ways of doing something I can guarantee that being perverse as I am I will ALWAYS choose the longest. Isn't that part of the specification for getting to be an MVP??? Dunno about that Noel but thinking about it I feel it probably should be. g -- Mike PS As promised some weeks ago 1 DVD and a CD will be in the post to you tomorrow a.m. |
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Yippeee!
g Thanks, Mike -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Mike M" wrote in message ... PS As promised some weeks ago 1 DVD and a CD will be in the post to you tomorrow a.m. |
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