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May 19th 10, 08:36 PM
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clearly off topic - are new? settings for Live/Hotmail required
I have waited a few weeks to see if perhaps this was another glitch on the service but it has not cleared. I have reviewed what little information I have found on the subject, which appears to not be very recent; I have also looked at the proposed "new" Hotmail/Live to be offered documents [again, at least what I have found]. The issue arose when changing the password for the account via the web access and attempting to use a standard reader [Thunderbird in this instance] after applying the new password. Sending via the password modified account is not affected, receiving fails when attempting authorization [though the web interface takes and uses the new password]. The question is whether there are new settings required for accessing Hotmail/Live mail accounts [pop3]? Or are they being converted to IMAP? Or are non-Microsoft product using users now being affected by internal changes at Microsoft? Anyone have any answers [beyond getting rid of the account(s)] or know of others with similar issues? -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- 
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May 19th 10, 09:06 PM
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clearly off topic - are new? settings for Live/Hotmail required
[Crosspost to OE General]
canned [Adjust for Tbird as needed] Compare your configuration settings to those listed on this page: http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!422.entry TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Incoming mail server | Log on using Secure Password Authentication =Do NOT check/enable this option! TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Outgoing mail server | My server requires authentication =check/enable this option TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Advanced: = Outgoing (SMTP) server port will need to be 587 (not 25) for most users = Incoming (POP3) server should be port 995 = Both SSL options must be checked/enabled TIP: Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no additional protection and it may be causing your problem. . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm /canned -- ~PA Bear MEB wrote: I have waited a few weeks to see if perhaps this was another glitch on the service but it has not cleared. I have reviewed what little information I have found on the subject, which appears to not be very recent; I have also looked at the proposed "new" Hotmail/Live to be offered documents [again, at least what I have found]. The issue arose when changing the password for the account via the web access and attempting to use a standard reader [Thunderbird in this instance] after applying the new password. Sending via the password modified account is not affected, receiving fails when attempting authorization [though the web interface takes and uses the new password]. The question is whether there are new settings required for accessing Hotmail/Live mail accounts [pop3]? Or are they being converted to IMAP? Or are non-Microsoft product using users now being affected by internal changes at Microsoft? Anyone have any answers [beyond getting rid of the account(s)] or know of others with similar issues?
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May 19th 10, 09:06 PM
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clearly off topic - are new? settings for Live/Hotmail required
[Crosspost to OE General]
canned [Adjust for Tbird as needed] Compare your configuration settings to those listed on this page: http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!422.entry TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Incoming mail server | Log on using Secure Password Authentication =Do NOT check/enable this option! TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Outgoing mail server | My server requires authentication =check/enable this option TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Advanced: = Outgoing (SMTP) server port will need to be 587 (not 25) for most users = Incoming (POP3) server should be port 995 = Both SSL options must be checked/enabled TIP: Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no additional protection and it may be causing your problem. . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm /canned -- ~PA Bear MEB wrote: I have waited a few weeks to see if perhaps this was another glitch on the service but it has not cleared. I have reviewed what little information I have found on the subject, which appears to not be very recent; I have also looked at the proposed "new" Hotmail/Live to be offered documents [again, at least what I have found]. The issue arose when changing the password for the account via the web access and attempting to use a standard reader [Thunderbird in this instance] after applying the new password. Sending via the password modified account is not affected, receiving fails when attempting authorization [though the web interface takes and uses the new password]. The question is whether there are new settings required for accessing Hotmail/Live mail accounts [pop3]? Or are they being converted to IMAP? Or are non-Microsoft product using users now being affected by internal changes at Microsoft? Anyone have any answers [beyond getting rid of the account(s)] or know of others with similar issues?
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May 19th 10, 10:52 PM
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clearly off topic - are new? settings for Live/Hotmail required
On 05/19/2010 04:06 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
[Crosspost to OE General] canned [Adjust for Tbird as needed] Compare your configuration settings to those listed on this page: http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!422.entry TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Incoming mail server | Log on using Secure Password Authentication =Do NOT check/enable this option! TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Outgoing mail server | My server requires authentication =check/enable this option TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Advanced: = Outgoing (SMTP) server port will need to be 587 (not 25) for most users = Incoming (POP3) server should be port 995 = Both SSL options must be checked/enabled TIP: Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no additional protection and it may be causing your problem. . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm /canned Thanks Pa, checked all those issues, in my instance I have used port 995 or 587 for sending [SMTP server settings], which apparently works of course, since this will be posted and the MSNews postings uses that server [Hotmail/Live] and its settings [as configurable in T-Bird]. I should note I also tried the settings needed for OL users [the actual {Live ID}.hotmail.com and port settings] but that also does not work. Also tried that ID with various attempts using the other "standards". I guess the next is to completely remove the old account unless someone has further, and create a new one [though that might kill sending, so I have avoided that test]. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___---
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May 19th 10, 10:52 PM
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clearly off topic - are new? settings for Live/Hotmail required
On 05/19/2010 04:06 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
[Crosspost to OE General] canned [Adjust for Tbird as needed] Compare your configuration settings to those listed on this page: http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!422.entry TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Incoming mail server | Log on using Secure Password Authentication =Do NOT check/enable this option! TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Outgoing mail server | My server requires authentication =check/enable this option TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Advanced: = Outgoing (SMTP) server port will need to be 587 (not 25) for most users = Incoming (POP3) server should be port 995 = Both SSL options must be checked/enabled TIP: Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no additional protection and it may be causing your problem. . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm /canned Thanks Pa, checked all those issues, in my instance I have used port 995 or 587 for sending [SMTP server settings], which apparently works of course, since this will be posted and the MSNews postings uses that server [Hotmail/Live] and its settings [as configurable in T-Bird]. I should note I also tried the settings needed for OL users [the actual {Live ID}.hotmail.com and port settings] but that also does not work. Also tried that ID with various attempts using the other "standards". I guess the next is to completely remove the old account unless someone has further, and create a new one [though that might kill sending, so I have avoided that test]. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___---
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May 19th 10, 11:38 PM
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clearly off topic - are new? settings for Live/Hotmail required
MEB wrote:
paste I have waited a few weeks to see if perhaps this was another glitch on the service but it has not cleared. I have reviewed what little information I have found on the subject, which appears to not be very recent; I have also looked at the proposed "new" Hotmail/Live to be offered documents [again, at least what I have found]. The issue arose when changing the password for the account via the web access and attempting to use a standard reader [Thunderbird in this instance] after applying the new password. Sending via the password modified account is not affected, receiving fails when attempting authorization [though the web interface takes and uses the new password]. The question is whether there are new settings required for accessing Hotmail/Live mail accounts [pop3]? Or are they being converted to IMAP? Or are non-Microsoft product using users now being affected by internal changes at Microsoft? Anyone have any answers [beyond getting rid of the account(s)] or know of others with similar issues? /paste [Crosspost to OE General] canned [Adjust for Tbird as needed] Compare your configuration settings to those listed on this page: http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!422.entry TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Incoming mail server | Log on using Secure Password Authentication =Do NOT check/enable this option! TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Outgoing mail server | My server requires authentication =check/enable this option TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Advanced: = Outgoing (SMTP) server port will need to be 587 (not 25) for most users = Incoming (POP3) server should be port 995 = Both SSL options must be checked/enabled TIP: Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no additional protection and it may be causing your problem. . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm /canned Thanks Pa, checked all those issues, in my instance I have used port 995 or 587 for sending [SMTP server settings], which apparently works of course, since this will be posted and the MSNews postings uses that server [Hotmail/Live] and its settings [as configurable in T-Bird]. I should note I also tried the settings needed for OL users [the actual {Live ID}.hotmail.com and port settings] but that also does not work. Also tried that ID with various attempts using the other "standards". I guess the next is to completely remove the old account unless someone has further, and create a new one [though that might kill sending, so I have avoided that test]. You are *not* using the Hotmail/Live server when posting to MS newsgroups via an NNTP newsreader. That being said, yes, I'd try deleting the Hotmail (POP3) account from Tbird, rebooting, and then creating it anew. Tip: Make sure you've Allowed cookies for live.com (domain).
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May 19th 10, 11:38 PM
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clearly off topic - are new? settings for Live/Hotmail required
MEB wrote:
paste I have waited a few weeks to see if perhaps this was another glitch on the service but it has not cleared. I have reviewed what little information I have found on the subject, which appears to not be very recent; I have also looked at the proposed "new" Hotmail/Live to be offered documents [again, at least what I have found]. The issue arose when changing the password for the account via the web access and attempting to use a standard reader [Thunderbird in this instance] after applying the new password. Sending via the password modified account is not affected, receiving fails when attempting authorization [though the web interface takes and uses the new password]. The question is whether there are new settings required for accessing Hotmail/Live mail accounts [pop3]? Or are they being converted to IMAP? Or are non-Microsoft product using users now being affected by internal changes at Microsoft? Anyone have any answers [beyond getting rid of the account(s)] or know of others with similar issues? /paste [Crosspost to OE General] canned [Adjust for Tbird as needed] Compare your configuration settings to those listed on this page: http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!422.entry TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Incoming mail server | Log on using Secure Password Authentication =Do NOT check/enable this option! TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Outgoing mail server | My server requires authentication =check/enable this option TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Advanced: = Outgoing (SMTP) server port will need to be 587 (not 25) for most users = Incoming (POP3) server should be port 995 = Both SSL options must be checked/enabled TIP: Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no additional protection and it may be causing your problem. . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm /canned Thanks Pa, checked all those issues, in my instance I have used port 995 or 587 for sending [SMTP server settings], which apparently works of course, since this will be posted and the MSNews postings uses that server [Hotmail/Live] and its settings [as configurable in T-Bird]. I should note I also tried the settings needed for OL users [the actual {Live ID}.hotmail.com and port settings] but that also does not work. Also tried that ID with various attempts using the other "standards". I guess the next is to completely remove the old account unless someone has further, and create a new one [though that might kill sending, so I have avoided that test]. You are *not* using the Hotmail/Live server when posting to MS newsgroups via an NNTP newsreader. That being said, yes, I'd try deleting the Hotmail (POP3) account from Tbird, rebooting, and then creating it anew. Tip: Make sure you've Allowed cookies for live.com (domain).
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May 20th 10, 12:05 AM
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clearly off topic - are new? settings for Live/Hotmail required
On 05/19/2010 06:38 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
MEB wrote: paste I have waited a few weeks to see if perhaps this was another glitch on the service but it has not cleared. I have reviewed what little information I have found on the subject, which appears to not be very recent; I have also looked at the proposed "new" Hotmail/Live to be offered documents [again, at least what I have found]. The issue arose when changing the password for the account via the web access and attempting to use a standard reader [Thunderbird in this instance] after applying the new password. Sending via the password modified account is not affected, receiving fails when attempting authorization [though the web interface takes and uses the new password]. The question is whether there are new settings required for accessing Hotmail/Live mail accounts [pop3]? Or are they being converted to IMAP? Or are non-Microsoft product using users now being affected by internal changes at Microsoft? Anyone have any answers [beyond getting rid of the account(s)] or know of others with similar issues? /paste [Crosspost to OE General] canned [Adjust for Tbird as needed] Compare your configuration settings to those listed on this page: http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!422.entry TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Incoming mail server | Log on using Secure Password Authentication =Do NOT check/enable this option! TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Outgoing mail server | My server requires authentication =check/enable this option TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Advanced: = Outgoing (SMTP) server port will need to be 587 (not 25) for most users = Incoming (POP3) server should be port 995 = Both SSL options must be checked/enabled TIP: Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no additional protection and it may be causing your problem. . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm /canned Thanks Pa, checked all those issues, in my instance I have used port 995 or 587 for sending [SMTP server settings], which apparently works of course, since this will be posted and the MSNews postings uses that server [Hotmail/Live] and its settings [as configurable in T-Bird]. I should note I also tried the settings needed for OL users [the actual {Live ID}.hotmail.com and port settings] but that also does not work. Also tried that ID with various attempts using the other "standards". I guess the next is to completely remove the old account unless someone has further, and create a new one [though that might kill sending, so I have avoided that test]. You are *not* using the Hotmail/Live server when posting to MS newsgroups via an NNTP newsreader. Oh yeah, true [duuuuhhhh]... my mind is elsewhere... That being said, yes, I'd try deleting the Hotmail (POP3) account from Tbird, rebooting, and then creating it anew. Tip: Make sure you've Allowed cookies for live.com (domain). AH, now that might be an issue, seems I may have blocked cookies using config.. have to check that... maybe just allow Live or something... Thanks for the direction and mental shake up... I'll be somewhat glad when all of this is over... -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___---
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May 20th 10, 12:05 AM
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clearly off topic - are new? settings for Live/Hotmail required
On 05/19/2010 06:38 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
MEB wrote: paste I have waited a few weeks to see if perhaps this was another glitch on the service but it has not cleared. I have reviewed what little information I have found on the subject, which appears to not be very recent; I have also looked at the proposed "new" Hotmail/Live to be offered documents [again, at least what I have found]. The issue arose when changing the password for the account via the web access and attempting to use a standard reader [Thunderbird in this instance] after applying the new password. Sending via the password modified account is not affected, receiving fails when attempting authorization [though the web interface takes and uses the new password]. The question is whether there are new settings required for accessing Hotmail/Live mail accounts [pop3]? Or are they being converted to IMAP? Or are non-Microsoft product using users now being affected by internal changes at Microsoft? Anyone have any answers [beyond getting rid of the account(s)] or know of others with similar issues? /paste [Crosspost to OE General] canned [Adjust for Tbird as needed] Compare your configuration settings to those listed on this page: http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!422.entry TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Incoming mail server | Log on using Secure Password Authentication =Do NOT check/enable this option! TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Servers | Outgoing mail server | My server requires authentication =check/enable this option TIP: OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [new Hotmail POP3 account] | Properties | Advanced: = Outgoing (SMTP) server port will need to be 587 (not 25) for most users = Incoming (POP3) server should be port 995 = Both SSL options must be checked/enabled TIP: Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no additional protection and it may be causing your problem. . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm /canned Thanks Pa, checked all those issues, in my instance I have used port 995 or 587 for sending [SMTP server settings], which apparently works of course, since this will be posted and the MSNews postings uses that server [Hotmail/Live] and its settings [as configurable in T-Bird]. I should note I also tried the settings needed for OL users [the actual {Live ID}.hotmail.com and port settings] but that also does not work. Also tried that ID with various attempts using the other "standards". I guess the next is to completely remove the old account unless someone has further, and create a new one [though that might kill sending, so I have avoided that test]. You are *not* using the Hotmail/Live server when posting to MS newsgroups via an NNTP newsreader. Oh yeah, true [duuuuhhhh]... my mind is elsewhere... That being said, yes, I'd try deleting the Hotmail (POP3) account from Tbird, rebooting, and then creating it anew. Tip: Make sure you've Allowed cookies for live.com (domain). AH, now that might be an issue, seems I may have blocked cookies using config.. have to check that... maybe just allow Live or something... Thanks for the direction and mental shake up... I'll be somewhat glad when all of this is over... -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___---
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May 20th 10, 12:18 AM
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"MEB" wrote in message ... On 05/19/2010 06:38 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote: MEB wrote: snip Tip: Make sure you've Allowed cookies for live.com (domain). AH, now that might be an issue, seems I may have blocked cookies using config.. have to check that... maybe just allow Live or something... Thanks for the direction and mental shake up... I'll be somewhat glad when all of this is over... Interesting ? This post was marked "Message not available" accessing the Microsoft Server, but came through on the aioe.org Server.
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