ME System Restore Files

To date my wife has accumulated 26,598, (twenty six
thousand five hundred and ninety eight) of these files,
taking upwards of 7,018,380 K of her hard drive.

As a consequence any thorough searches, anti virus scans
or hard drive defrags take a considerable time to execute.

Really not acceptable, in these high tech days, hey?

Is there some acceptable way to reduce the volume and
quantity to a more manageable figure, thats apart from
copying them across to about 10 -14 data CD's.

At present I'm trending towards splitting all but the last
100 together with their control BKUPVXDLASTLOG.## into
another directory, that is after creating a restore
position, and then see what happens.

Then if nothing untoward or disastrous happens, delete
about 26,498 of the little buggers.!!

Has anyone any alternative or more politically correct
solution?

Terry -
Manually removing ANY files from the _Restore archive WILL break System
Restore - unless you get very lucky.

From the sound of it, you may already have attempted something similar, as
there's no way that the archive should contain that many files.

First - try reducing the space allocation for SR from System
Properties|Performance|File System - most people can operate happily with SR
allocations of 200-400MB.
Reboot, and check the folder again.
Then Test SR function by creating a manual restore point - does that work
OK??
Look here for a test for the full functioning of SR
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/quiktipsr.htm
post back with any error messages, etc.

If that all works OK, then you should be down to a reasonable number of
files - if not the you may have to reset System Restore

To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore slider
to your preferred setting.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp

"Terry" wrote in message
...
To date my wife has accumulated 26,598, (twenty six
thousand five hundred and ninety eight) of these files,
taking upwards of 7,018,380 K of her hard drive.

As a consequence any thorough searches, anti virus scans
or hard drive defrags take a considerable time to execute.

Really not acceptable, in these high tech days, hey?

Is there some acceptable way to reduce the volume and
quantity to a more manageable figure, thats apart from
copying them across to about 10 -14 data CD's.

At present I'm trending towards splitting all but the last
100 together with their control BKUPVXDLASTLOG.## into
another directory, that is after creating a restore
position, and then see what happens.

Then if nothing untoward or disastrous happens, delete
about 26,498 of the little buggers.!!

Has anyone any alternative or more politically correct
solution?

Thanks Noel,

You could be right you know, as the restore files start at 32,000 odd, must
have happened long ago though, as I can't remember doing same. Certainly
sounds like something I would do in my adventuruous days.

Will try your suggestion and let you know.

Best time to do it is while it is running without problems.

Thanks

CYL
"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Terry -
Manually removing ANY files from the _Restore archive WILL break System
Restore - unless you get very lucky.

From the sound of it, you may already have attempted something similar, as
there's no way that the archive should contain that many files.

First - try reducing the space allocation for SR from System
Properties|Performance|File System - most people can operate happily with
SR
allocations of 200-400MB.
Reboot, and check the folder again.
Then Test SR function by creating a manual restore point - does that work
OK??
Look here for a test for the full functioning of SR
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/quiktipsr.htm
post back with any error messages, etc.

If that all works OK, then you should be down to a reasonable number of
files - if not the you may have to reset System Restore

To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately
following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore
slider
to your preferred setting.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp

"Terry" wrote in message
...
To date my wife has accumulated 26,598, (twenty six
thousand five hundred and ninety eight) of these files,
taking upwards of 7,018,380 K of her hard drive.

As a consequence any thorough searches, anti virus scans
or hard drive defrags take a considerable time to execute.

Really not acceptable, in these high tech days, hey?

Is there some acceptable way to reduce the volume and
quantity to a more manageable figure, thats apart from
copying them across to about 10 -14 data CD's.

At present I'm trending towards splitting all but the last
100 together with their control BKUPVXDLASTLOG.## into
another directory, that is after creating a restore
position, and then see what happens.

Then if nothing untoward or disastrous happens, delete
about 26,498 of the little buggers.!!

Has anyone any alternative or more politically correct
solution?

Noel

Your advice worked admirably, thank you.

Followed your procedure as outlined to the letter, with the main recovery
point occuring
following the reboot after re-enabling "System Restore".

Prior to the shutdown for reboot in the normal cycle of things, there was a
major delay while
the system sorted itself out, deleting the surplus "System Restore " data,
resetting the logs and
generally having a Bex and a "good lie down", as far as I can recall I had
to click on the
"wait for the activity to finalise" button at least three and maybe four
times, recalling that it had
7 + gb to get rid of by deletion from the hard drive.

I would say that though one may have been tempted to click on shutdown
button, to do so at
that stage would have been tempting disaster.

When I went back to adjust the restore reserve value, the slider was hanging
out at max 23 gb +,
so I returned it to the minimum setting, Ok'd and applied out, rebooted ,
went back in and reset to
around 250 mb.

Mission accomplished after a full Norton System works Diagnosis, ScanDisk,
Defrag and scanregw /fix.

I did have a look at and printed off your URL reference, but held that back
for reference if further recovery
attempts were needed. They were not.

Thanks once again Noel.

Now I can get back to my normal stuff.


Terry


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Terry -
Manually removing ANY files from the _Restore archive WILL break System
Restore - unless you get very lucky.

From the sound of it, you may already have attempted something similar, as
there's no way that the archive should contain that many files.

First - try reducing the space allocation for SR from System
Properties|Performance|File System - most people can operate happily with
SR
allocations of 200-400MB.
Reboot, and check the folder again.
Then Test SR function by creating a manual restore point - does that work
OK??
Look here for a test for the full functioning of SR
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/quiktipsr.htm
post back with any error messages, etc.

If that all works OK, then you should be down to a reasonable number of
files - if not the you may have to reset System Restore

To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately
following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore
slider
to your preferred setting.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp

"Terry" wrote in message
...
To date my wife has accumulated 26,598, (twenty six
thousand five hundred and ninety eight) of these files,
taking upwards of 7,018,380 K of her hard drive.

As a consequence any thorough searches, anti virus scans
or hard drive defrags take a considerable time to execute.

Really not acceptable, in these high tech days, hey?

Is there some acceptable way to reduce the volume and
quantity to a more manageable figure, thats apart from
copying them across to about 10 -14 data CD's.

At present I'm trending towards splitting all but the last
100 together with their control BKUPVXDLASTLOG.## into
another directory, that is after creating a restore
position, and then see what happens.

Then if nothing untoward or disastrous happens, delete
about 26,498 of the little buggers.!!

Has anyone any alternative or more politically correct
solution?

Thanks for the feedback - and well done (patience is a virtue - as you've
discoveredg)

Good Luck

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp

"tmno2" wrote in message
...
Noel

Your advice worked admirably, thank you.

Followed your procedure as outlined to the letter, with the main recovery
point occuring
following the reboot after re-enabling "System Restore".

Prior to the shutdown for reboot in the normal cycle of things, there was
a
major delay while
the system sorted itself out, deleting the surplus "System Restore " data,
resetting the logs and
generally having a Bex and a "good lie down", as far as I can recall I had
to click on the
"wait for the activity to finalise" button at least three and maybe four
times, recalling that it had
7 + gb to get rid of by deletion from the hard drive.

I would say that though one may have been tempted to click on shutdown
button, to do so at
that stage would have been tempting disaster.

When I went back to adjust the restore reserve value, the slider was
hanging
out at max 23 gb +,
so I returned it to the minimum setting, Ok'd and applied out, rebooted ,
went back in and reset to
around 250 mb.

Mission accomplished after a full Norton System works Diagnosis, ScanDisk,
Defrag and scanregw /fix.

I did have a look at and printed off your URL reference, but held that
back
for reference if further recovery
attempts were needed. They were not.

Thanks once again Noel.

Now I can get back to my normal stuff.


Terry


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Terry -
Manually removing ANY files from the _Restore archive WILL break System
Restore - unless you get very lucky.

From the sound of it, you may already have attempted something similar,
as
there's no way that the archive should contain that many files.

First - try reducing the space allocation for SR from System
Properties|Performance|File System - most people can operate happily
with
SR
allocations of 200-400MB.
Reboot, and check the folder again.
Then Test SR function by creating a manual restore point - does that
work
OK??
Look here for a test for the full functioning of SR
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/quiktipsr.htm
post back with any error messages, etc.

If that all works OK, then you should be down to a reasonable number of
files - if not the you may have to reset System Restore

To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately
following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore
slider
to your preferred setting.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp

"Terry" wrote in message
...
To date my wife has accumulated 26,598, (twenty six
thousand five hundred and ninety eight) of these files,
taking upwards of 7,018,380 K of her hard drive.

As a consequence any thorough searches, anti virus scans
or hard drive defrags take a considerable time to execute.

Really not acceptable, in these high tech days, hey?

Is there some acceptable way to reduce the volume and
quantity to a more manageable figure, thats apart from
copying them across to about 10 -14 data CD's.

At present I'm trending towards splitting all but the last
100 together with their control BKUPVXDLASTLOG.## into
another directory, that is after creating a restore
position, and then see what happens.

Then if nothing untoward or disastrous happens, delete
about 26,498 of the little buggers.!!

Has anyone any alternative or more politically correct
solution?