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Old October 1st 05, 10:47 PM
SeaMaid
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Default How do I uninstall-reinstall external CDROM

Win98se
Compaq LTE5300 laptop
Pentium I, 133MHz, 24MB RAM, 1 GB HDD
Bantam Backpack 181100 24x PP CDROM

The laptop is having a lot of problems. It has not been powered up in a long
time. When I powered it up, the BIOS did not detect that a hard drive was
attached. I removed and reinserted the hard drive, and the BIOS now detects
it, but Windows does not boot properly. It seems to freeze on one of the
driver files for the external Bantam Backpack CDROM (something like
bpcdrom.sys). I want to remove and reinstall this device. How do I
completely remove its drivers without removing the CD drivers that are part
of Win98?

The Win98se startup disk CD drivers do not work for this external CD drive.
If I uninstall the device, will DOS and Windows "see" the drive when I
reboot so I can reinstall the drivers? There are two separate installers:
16-bit DOS drivers and 32-bit Windows drivers. I believe both are installed.

The operating system moves extremely slow, and I'm also considering a
reformat and reinstall of Windows. The problem is that the laptop has no
internal CDROM drive, only a floppy, and I need to be able to use that
external CDROM in DOS to reload Windows. Any help is appreciated.


  #2  
Old October 2nd 05, 12:54 AM
Jeff Richards
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You can boot to safe mode to remove problem devices.

Removing a device such as this does not prevent you from using Windows
drivers for a standard CD drive. However, the backpack CD is not a standard
Windows device, and Windows will not see it unless you install the drivers
it requires. Once you have removed it you can search the manufacturer's
www site for the required drivers and re-install them. The DOS drivers
should be installed onto the Windows startup disk. Do the install and test
the startup floppy before re-formatting the drive.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"SeaMaid" wrote in message
...
Win98se
Compaq LTE5300 laptop
Pentium I, 133MHz, 24MB RAM, 1 GB HDD
Bantam Backpack 181100 24x PP CDROM

The laptop is having a lot of problems. It has not been powered up in a
long time. When I powered it up, the BIOS did not detect that a hard drive
was attached. I removed and reinserted the hard drive, and the BIOS now
detects it, but Windows does not boot properly. It seems to freeze on one
of the driver files for the external Bantam Backpack CDROM (something like
bpcdrom.sys). I want to remove and reinstall this device. How do I
completely remove its drivers without removing the CD drivers that are
part of Win98?

The Win98se startup disk CD drivers do not work for this external CD
drive. If I uninstall the device, will DOS and Windows "see" the drive
when I reboot so I can reinstall the drivers? There are two separate
installers: 16-bit DOS drivers and 32-bit Windows drivers. I believe both
are installed.

The operating system moves extremely slow, and I'm also considering a
reformat and reinstall of Windows. The problem is that the laptop has no
internal CDROM drive, only a floppy, and I need to be able to use that
external CDROM in DOS to reload Windows. Any help is appreciated.



  #3  
Old October 2nd 05, 05:38 AM
SeaMaid
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The problem there is that CDROM drives do not show up in safe mode -- not
even in Device Manager. That is why I asked how do you remove the drivers.
They do not show in Add-Remove Programs either.

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
You can boot to safe mode to remove problem devices.

Removing a device such as this does not prevent you from using Windows
drivers for a standard CD drive. However, the backpack CD is not a
standard Windows device, and Windows will not see it unless you install
the drivers it requires. Once you have removed it you can search the
manufacturer's www site for the required drivers and re-install them. The
DOS drivers should be installed onto the Windows startup disk. Do the
install and test the startup floppy before re-formatting the drive.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"SeaMaid" wrote in message
...
Win98se
Compaq LTE5300 laptop
Pentium I, 133MHz, 24MB RAM, 1 GB HDD
Bantam Backpack 181100 24x PP CDROM

The laptop is having a lot of problems. It has not been powered up in a
long time. When I powered it up, the BIOS did not detect that a hard
drive was attached. I removed and reinserted the hard drive, and the BIOS
now detects it, but Windows does not boot properly. It seems to freeze on
one of the driver files for the external Bantam Backpack CDROM (something
like bpcdrom.sys). I want to remove and reinstall this device. How do I
completely remove its drivers without removing the CD drivers that are
part of Win98?

The Win98se startup disk CD drivers do not work for this external CD
drive. If I uninstall the device, will DOS and Windows "see" the drive
when I reboot so I can reinstall the drivers? There are two separate
installers: 16-bit DOS drivers and 32-bit Windows drivers. I believe both
are installed.

The operating system moves extremely slow, and I'm also considering a
reformat and reinstall of Windows. The problem is that the laptop has no
internal CDROM drive, only a floppy, and I need to be able to use that
external CDROM in DOS to reload Windows. Any help is appreciated.





  #4  
Old October 2nd 05, 05:39 AM
SeaMaid
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In order to put the DOS drivers on the Windows 98se startup disk, I need to
know what system files on the startup disk can be REMOVED first. There is
not enough room otherwise. The DOS drivers and readme.txt for the Backpack
come to about 245kb.

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
You can boot to safe mode to remove problem devices.

Removing a device such as this does not prevent you from using Windows
drivers for a standard CD drive. However, the backpack CD is not a
standard Windows device, and Windows will not see it unless you install
the drivers it requires. Once you have removed it you can search the
manufacturer's www site for the required drivers and re-install them. The
DOS drivers should be installed onto the Windows startup disk. Do the
install and test the startup floppy before re-formatting the drive.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"SeaMaid" wrote in message
...
Win98se
Compaq LTE5300 laptop
Pentium I, 133MHz, 24MB RAM, 1 GB HDD
Bantam Backpack 181100 24x PP CDROM

The laptop is having a lot of problems. It has not been powered up in a
long time. When I powered it up, the BIOS did not detect that a hard
drive was attached. I removed and reinserted the hard drive, and the BIOS
now detects it, but Windows does not boot properly. It seems to freeze on
one of the driver files for the external Bantam Backpack CDROM (something
like bpcdrom.sys). I want to remove and reinstall this device. How do I
completely remove its drivers without removing the CD drivers that are
part of Win98?

The Win98se startup disk CD drivers do not work for this external CD
drive. If I uninstall the device, will DOS and Windows "see" the drive
when I reboot so I can reinstall the drivers? There are two separate
installers: 16-bit DOS drivers and 32-bit Windows drivers. I believe both
are installed.

The operating system moves extremely slow, and I'm also considering a
reformat and reinstall of Windows. The problem is that the laptop has no
internal CDROM drive, only a floppy, and I need to be able to use that
external CDROM in DOS to reload Windows. Any help is appreciated.





  #5  
Old October 3rd 05, 07:48 AM
Jeff Richards
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While the CD-ROM drives might not show up in safe mode, the devices will be
listed in Device Manager and can be removed from there. Do not try to
remove them from add/remove programs.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"SeaMaid" wrote in message
...
The problem there is that CDROM drives do not show up in safe mode -- not
even in Device Manager. That is why I asked how do you remove the drivers.
They do not show in Add-Remove Programs either.



  #6  
Old October 3rd 05, 07:49 AM
Jeff Richards
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The depends on what startup disk you are using. Do not include the readme
file as you do not need it. Print it out and have it available as hardcopy
instead. Remove any utility you will not be using, or remove any of the
device drivers that are not relevant to your system.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"SeaMaid" wrote in message
...
In order to put the DOS drivers on the Windows 98se startup disk, I need
to know what system files on the startup disk can be REMOVED first. There
is not enough room otherwise. The DOS drivers and readme.txt for the
Backpack come to about 245kb.



  #7  
Old October 3rd 05, 11:37 PM
mae
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I think you would need about 80kb.
Files Required to run LOADCD.BAT:
BPCDDRV.SYS -51 kb
MSCDEX.EXE -25 kb
DEVICE.COM -03 kb
LOADCD.BAT -01 kb
Or use MS-DOS boot disk.
Using the LOADCD.BAT utility for Backpack CD-ROM
http://www.micro-solutions.com/support/docs/2235.asp

Installing Windows 95, 98 or Me from a
Backpack CD-ROM or Backpack cd-rewriter
http://www.micro-solutions.com/support/docs/3004.asp
--
mae

"SeaMaid" wrote in message
...
| In order to put the DOS drivers on the Windows 98se startup disk, I need
to
| know what system files on the startup disk can be REMOVED first. There is
| not enough room otherwise. The DOS drivers and readme.txt for the Backpack
| come to about 245kb.
|
| "Jeff Richards" wrote in message
| ...
| You can boot to safe mode to remove problem devices.

| "SeaMaid" wrote in message
| ...
| Win98se
| Compaq LTE5300 laptop
| Pentium I, 133MHz, 24MB RAM, 1 GB HDD
| Bantam Backpack 181100 24x PP CDROM
|

  #8  
Old October 4th 05, 02:15 AM
SeaMaid
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There is mention in one of the troubleshooting articles about existing CDROM
drivers causing conflicts. Both the 16-bit and 32-bit Backpack drivers are
installed. I can try deleting the Backpack directories that I see in C:\,
but I am not sure this will get them all. There may be Backpack drivers
and/or references to them somewhere in the Windows folder and in the
registry. I can go into MSCONFIG to remove all references from the system
files shown there. I need to be able to have access to this drive both in
DOS and in Windows.


"mae" wrote in message
...
I think you would need about 80kb.
Files Required to run LOADCD.BAT:
BPCDDRV.SYS -51 kb
MSCDEX.EXE -25 kb
DEVICE.COM -03 kb
LOADCD.BAT -01 kb
Or use MS-DOS boot disk.
Using the LOADCD.BAT utility for Backpack CD-ROM
http://www.micro-solutions.com/support/docs/2235.asp

Installing Windows 95, 98 or Me from a
Backpack CD-ROM or Backpack cd-rewriter
http://www.micro-solutions.com/support/docs/3004.asp
--
mae

"SeaMaid" wrote in message
...
| In order to put the DOS drivers on the Windows 98se startup disk, I need
to
| know what system files on the startup disk can be REMOVED first. There
is
| not enough room otherwise. The DOS drivers and readme.txt for the
Backpack
| come to about 245kb.
|
| "Jeff Richards" wrote in message
| ...
| You can boot to safe mode to remove problem devices.

| "SeaMaid" wrote in message
| ...
| Win98se
| Compaq LTE5300 laptop
| Pentium I, 133MHz, 24MB RAM, 1 GB HDD
| Bantam Backpack 181100 24x PP CDROM
|



  #9  
Old October 5th 05, 03:06 AM
mae
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On their site is detail of almost everything you could encounter, print them
out for guidance.

Boot to safe mode and go to:
settingcontrol panellook for Backpack Icon
if there, click and review your options
uncheck the option to search on startup

or can remove from devices (follow Jeff's suggestions)
or uninstall backpack driver at
control panel add/remove programs
or if not there, run uninstall similar to:
[C:\Program Files\Backpack]
BPUNINST.EXE

or run the setup program from the original diskette
and choose uninstall or reinstall
(there are only a few files depending on version)
If you need new drivers download and put on a floppy to reinstall. The 16
bit drivers are used only under DOS and dropped when Windows loads. You
don't have another CD rom to conflict, do you?

If you are wanting to reinstall your OS, follow their instructions but
verify boot disk works (as Jeff suggested) and that you can access the drive
and your Windows disk before formatting. Copy some file from it to "C" to
test.

That is about all I can suggest. Good Luck.
--
mae

"SeaMaid" wrote in message
...
| There is mention in one of the troubleshooting articles about existing
CDROM
| drivers causing conflicts. Both the 16-bit and 32-bit Backpack drivers are
| installed. I can try deleting the Backpack directories that I see in C:\,
| but I am not sure this will get them all. There may be Backpack drivers
| and/or references to them somewhere in the Windows folder and in the
| registry. I can go into MSCONFIG to remove all references from the system
| files shown there. I need to be able to have access to this drive both in
| DOS and in Windows.
|
|
| "mae" wrote in message
| ...
| I think you would need about 80kb.
| Files Required to run LOADCD.BAT:
| BPCDDRV.SYS -51 kb
| MSCDEX.EXE -25 kb
| DEVICE.COM -03 kb
| LOADCD.BAT -01 kb
| Or use MS-DOS boot disk.
| Using the LOADCD.BAT utility for Backpack CD-ROM
| http://www.micro-solutions.com/support/docs/2235.asp
|
| Installing Windows 95, 98 or Me from a
| Backpack CD-ROM or Backpack cd-rewriter
| http://www.micro-solutions.com/support/docs/3004.asp
| --
| mae
|
| "SeaMaid" wrote in message
| ...
| | In order to put the DOS drivers on the Windows 98se startup disk, I
need
| to
| | know what system files on the startup disk can be REMOVED first. There
| is
| | not enough room otherwise. The DOS drivers and readme.txt for the
| Backpack
| | come to about 245kb.
| |
| | "Jeff Richards" wrote in message
| | ...
| | You can boot to safe mode to remove problem devices.
|
| | "SeaMaid" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Win98se
| | Compaq LTE5300 laptop
| | Pentium I, 133MHz, 24MB RAM, 1 GB HDD
| | Bantam Backpack 181100 24x PP CDROM
| |
|
|
|

 




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