Very slow

Ping: Noel Paton

In July 2003, Cheryl had a similar problem: slow startup due, if my memory
serves me right: 3 GB in 66,000 files in 5 folders in her hidden file
_Restore. You traced the problem in the hidden folder C:\_Restore\Temp.
Then I left on holidays and lost track. Could you please help me with:
Slow computer: in the same folder, its properties give: 948 MB in 3000
files and 5 folders, all CPY files, very few zero, several fairly large
files, the oldest ones are back in 2001...
I remember a few questions: here are my answers:
. Using Norton NIS .Using manual mode updates
.There is a WININIT.INI file in the C:\Windows folder
.Free space in C: 14 out of 20 GB
.Actual Space taken in the c:\_Restore folder 313 MB set near Min
.No WININIT.ERR file in Windows
.Not running GoBack
Note that not allowed to delete any of those TEMP files in C:\_Restore\Temp
files "access denied...etc"
Would appreiate if you could help. Tks in advance.
Paul

Paul
3000 files in the c:\_Restore hierarchy is a little excessive - but not
impossibly so.

What size is your HD?
don't worry about the date of the CPY files - that's the date of the files
that they're copies of, rather than the date the CPY files were created.
I suspect here that we have the 'normal' corruption created by Norton.

First reboot, then if the WININIT.INI file still exists, open the
WININIT.INI file in NotePad, copy the contents to your response, then close
Notepad, and rename the file to WININIT.JNK.
Then
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot
Check again for the WININIT.INI file, and delete it if it's still there!

then leave the system alone for at least half an hour, and see if anything
has happened to your SR archive contents.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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Ping: Noel Paton

In July 2003, Cheryl had a similar problem: slow startup due, if my
memory
serves me right: 3 GB in 66,000 files in 5 folders in her hidden file
_Restore. You traced the problem in the hidden folder C:\_Restore\Temp.
Then I left on holidays and lost track. Could you please help me with:
Slow computer: in the same folder, its properties give: 948 MB in 3000
files and 5 folders, all CPY files, very few zero, several fairly large
files, the oldest ones are back in 2001...
I remember a few questions: here are my answers:
. Using Norton NIS .Using manual mode updates
.There is a WININIT.INI file in the C:\Windows folder
.Free space in C: 14 out of 20 GB
.Actual Space taken in the c:\_Restore folder 313 MB set near Min
.No WININIT.ERR file in Windows
.Not running GoBack
Note that not allowed to delete any of those TEMP files in
C:\_Restore\Temp
files "access denied...etc"
Would appreiate if you could help. Tks in advance.
Paul

"Noel Paton" wrote:

Paul
3000 files in the c:\_Restore hierarchy is a little excessive - but not
impossibly so.

What size is your HD?
don't worry about the date of the CPY files - that's the date of the files
that they're copies of, rather than the date the CPY files were created.
I suspect here that we have the 'normal' corruption created by Norton.

First reboot, then if the WININIT.INI file still exists, open the
WININIT.INI file in NotePad, copy the contents to your response, then close
Notepad, and rename the file to WININIT.JNK.
Then
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot
Check again for the WININIT.INI file, and delete it if it's still there!

then leave the system alone for at least half an hour, and see if anything
has happened to your SR archive contents.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
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Ping: Noel Paton

In July 2003, Cheryl had a similar problem: slow startup due, if my
memory
serves me right: 3 GB in 66,000 files in 5 folders in her hidden file
_Restore. You traced the problem in the hidden folder C:\_Restore\Temp.
Then I left on holidays and lost track. Could you please help me with:
Slow computer: in the same folder, its properties give: 948 MB in 3000
files and 5 folders, all CPY files, very few zero, several fairly large
files, the oldest ones are back in 2001...
I remember a few questions: here are my answers:
. Using Norton NIS .Using manual mode updates
.There is a WININIT.INI file in the C:\Windows folder
.Free space in C: 14 out of 20 GB
.Actual Space taken in the c:\_Restore folder 313 MB set near Min
.No WININIT.ERR file in Windows
.Not running GoBack
Note that not allowed to delete any of those TEMP files in
C:\_Restore\Temp
files "access denied...etc"
Would appreiate if you could help. Tks in advance.
Paul


Oct 31/04
Noel:
Tks for fast response re "Very slow".
My HD is 20 GB of which 4 is used and 16 free GB. using WIN Me.
There is no WININIT.INI IN A SEARCH, nor in my WINDOWS folder.
However I get 6 WININIT files:
WININIT C:\WINDOWNS 46 KB APPLICATION
WININIT " 13 KB SAV FILE
wininitlog " 1 kb OLD file
wininit " 2 KB Test Document
WININIT " 1 KB BAK FILE
WININIT " /App 9 KB LGC FILE

are these the same???

I didnt go further, but browsed the links you gave; if I was a Monk with
nothing else on my hands (just got back from a funeral of a 23 years old...)
I would read them all...the only WININIT.INI I found is in the
run|msconfig|selective startup=win.ini file, is that the same?By the way the
first file above opens in DOS and is an .EXE FILE.
I'm at a lost what to do to get rid of those TEMP files in the _restore
file...which may or may not slow my CPU, your guest is better (a lot) than
mine. Tks Noel for the time
PAT (Paul)

No - those WININIT.INI files are 'normal'
try the scanreg...
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot


--
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"Noel Paton" wrote:

Paul
3000 files in the c:\_Restore hierarchy is a little excessive - but not
impossibly so.

What size is your HD?
don't worry about the date of the CPY files - that's the date of the
files
that they're copies of, rather than the date the CPY files were created.
I suspect here that we have the 'normal' corruption created by Norton.

First reboot, then if the WININIT.INI file still exists, open the
WININIT.INI file in NotePad, copy the contents to your response, then
close
Notepad, and rename the file to WININIT.JNK.
Then
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot
Check again for the WININIT.INI file, and delete it if it's still there!

then leave the system alone for at least half an hour, and see if
anything
has happened to your SR archive contents.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"PAT (pAUL)" PAT wrote in message
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Ping: Noel Paton

In July 2003, Cheryl had a similar problem: slow startup due, if my
memory
serves me right: 3 GB in 66,000 files in 5 folders in her hidden file
_Restore. You traced the problem in the hidden folder
C:\_Restore\Temp.
Then I left on holidays and lost track. Could you please help me
with:
Slow computer: in the same folder, its properties give: 948 MB in
3000
files and 5 folders, all CPY files, very few zero, several fairly large
files, the oldest ones are back in 2001...
I remember a few questions: here are my answers:
. Using Norton NIS .Using manual mode updates
.There is a WININIT.INI file in the C:\Windows folder
.Free space in C: 14 out of 20 GB
.Actual Space taken in the c:\_Restore folder 313 MB set near Min
.No WININIT.ERR file in Windows
.Not running GoBack
Note that not allowed to delete any of those TEMP files in
C:\_Restore\Temp
files "access denied...etc"
Would appreiate if you could help. Tks in advance.
Paul


Oct 31/04
Noel:
Tks for fast response re "Very slow".
My HD is 20 GB of which 4 is used and 16 free GB. using WIN Me.
There is no WININIT.INI IN A SEARCH, nor in my WINDOWS folder.
However I get 6 WININIT files:
WININIT C:\WINDOWNS 46 KB APPLICATION
WININIT " 13 KB SAV FILE
wininitlog " 1 kb OLD file
wininit " 2 KB Test Document
WININIT " 1 KB BAK FILE
WININIT " /App 9 KB LGC FILE

are these the same???

I didnt go further, but browsed the links you gave; if I was a Monk with
nothing else on my hands (just got back from a funeral of a 23 years
old...)
I would read them all...the only WININIT.INI I found is in the
run|msconfig|selective startup=win.ini file, is that the same?By the way
the
first file above opens in DOS and is an .EXE FILE.
I'm at a lost what to do to get rid of those TEMP files in the _restore
file...which may or may not slow my CPU, your guest is better (a lot) than
mine. Tks Noel for the time
PAT (Paul)

"Noel Paton" wrote:

No - those WININIT.INI files are 'normal'
try the scanreg...
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
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"PAT (Paul)" PAT wrote in message
...


"Noel Paton" wrote:

Paul
3000 files in the c:\_Restore hierarchy is a little excessive - but not
impossibly so.

What size is your HD?
don't worry about the date of the CPY files - that's the date of the
files
that they're copies of, rather than the date the CPY files were created.
I suspect here that we have the 'normal' corruption created by Norton.

First reboot, then if the WININIT.INI file still exists, open the
WININIT.INI file in NotePad, copy the contents to your response, then
close
Notepad, and rename the file to WININIT.JNK.
Then
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot
Check again for the WININIT.INI file, and delete it if it's still there!

then leave the system alone for at least half an hour, and see if
anything
has happened to your SR archive contents.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"PAT (pAUL)" PAT wrote in message
...
Ping: Noel Paton

In July 2003, Cheryl had a similar problem: slow startup due, if my
memory
serves me right: 3 GB in 66,000 files in 5 folders in her hidden file
_Restore. You traced the problem in the hidden folder
C:\_Restore\Temp.
Then I left on holidays and lost track. Could you please help me
with:
Slow computer: in the same folder, its properties give: 948 MB in
3000
files and 5 folders, all CPY files, very few zero, several fairly large
files, the oldest ones are back in 2001...
I remember a few questions: here are my answers:
. Using Norton NIS .Using manual mode updates
.There is a WININIT.INI file in the C:\Windows folder
.Free space in C: 14 out of 20 GB
.Actual Space taken in the c:\_Restore folder 313 MB set near Min
.No WININIT.ERR file in Windows
.Not running GoBack
Note that not allowed to delete any of those TEMP files in
C:\_Restore\Temp
files "access denied...etc"
Would appreiate if you could help. Tks in advance.
Paul


Oct 31/04
Noel:
Tks for fast response re "Very slow".
My HD is 20 GB of which 4 is used and 16 free GB. using WIN Me.
There is no WININIT.INI IN A SEARCH, nor in my WINDOWS folder.
However I get 6 WININIT files:
WININIT C:\WINDOWNS 46 KB APPLICATION
WININIT " 13 KB SAV FILE
wininitlog " 1 kb OLD file
wininit " 2 KB Test Document
WININIT " 1 KB BAK FILE
WININIT " /App 9 KB LGC FILE

are these the same???

I didnt go further, but browsed the links you gave; if I was a Monk with
nothing else on my hands (just got back from a funeral of a 23 years
old...)
I would read them all...the only WININIT.INI I found is in the
run|msconfig|selective startup=win.ini file, is that the same?By the way
the
first file above opens in DOS and is an .EXE FILE.
I'm at a lost what to do to get rid of those TEMP files in the _restore
file...which may or may not slow my CPU, your guest is better (a lot) than
mine. Tks Noel for the time
PAT (Paul)


Noel: Nov 1/04 4:58pm

Noel: RE Very Slow:

tried Start|Run|SCANREG /FIX|OK several times (note the space before
/FIX) all I get is the following message:

"Windows cannot find 'SCANREG'. You may have typed the name incorrectly
in the Run dialog, or another open program cannot find a system file. To
search for a file, click the Start button, and then click Search"

On a Search for SCANREG I get:

NAME FOLDER SIZE TYPE

SCANREGW C:WINDOWS 124KB APPLICATION (REGISTRY CHECKER)

SCANREG C:WINDOWS\COMMAND 169KB APPL.

SCANREG C:WIN\OPTIONS\CABS 169KB APPL.

Where do we go from there? Sorry for the inconvenience, wonder if its worth
it...the CPU IS very slow. Tks.
PAT (Paul)

Sounds like your PATH is being misdirected.....

in MSCONFIG, look in the Environment tab - what's there?

The PATH statement should just read
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
(note, no spaces)
if it reads anything else, use the Edit button, and change the variable
value to that above, after making a note of the current value - which you
should post back so we can have a look.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"PAT (Paul)" wrote in message
...


"Noel Paton" wrote:

No - those WININIT.INI files are 'normal'
try the scanreg...
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"PAT (Paul)" PAT wrote in message
...


"Noel Paton" wrote:

Paul
3000 files in the c:\_Restore hierarchy is a little excessive - but
not
impossibly so.

What size is your HD?
don't worry about the date of the CPY files - that's the date of the
files
that they're copies of, rather than the date the CPY files were
created.
I suspect here that we have the 'normal' corruption created by Norton.

First reboot, then if the WININIT.INI file still exists, open the
WININIT.INI file in NotePad, copy the contents to your response, then
close
Notepad, and rename the file to WININIT.JNK.
Then
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot
Check again for the WININIT.INI file, and delete it if it's still
there!

then leave the system alone for at least half an hour, and see if
anything
has happened to your SR archive contents.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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NG's

"PAT (pAUL)" PAT wrote in message
...
Ping: Noel Paton

In July 2003, Cheryl had a similar problem: slow startup due, if my
memory
serves me right: 3 GB in 66,000 files in 5 folders in her hidden
file
_Restore. You traced the problem in the hidden folder
C:\_Restore\Temp.
Then I left on holidays and lost track. Could you please help me
with:
Slow computer: in the same folder, its properties give: 948 MB
in
3000
files and 5 folders, all CPY files, very few zero, several fairly
large
files, the oldest ones are back in 2001...
I remember a few questions: here are my answers:
. Using Norton NIS .Using manual mode updates
.There is a WININIT.INI file in the C:\Windows folder
.Free space in C: 14 out of 20 GB
.Actual Space taken in the c:\_Restore folder 313 MB set near
Min
.No WININIT.ERR file in Windows
.Not running GoBack
Note that not allowed to delete any of those TEMP files in
C:\_Restore\Temp
files "access denied...etc"
Would appreiate if you could help. Tks in advance.
Paul


Oct 31/04
Noel:
Tks for fast response re "Very slow".
My HD is 20 GB of which 4 is used and 16 free GB. using WIN Me.
There is no WININIT.INI IN A SEARCH, nor in my WINDOWS folder.
However I get 6 WININIT files:
WININIT C:\WINDOWNS 46 KB APPLICATION
WININIT " 13 KB SAV FILE
wininitlog " 1 kb OLD file
wininit " 2 KB Test Document
WININIT " 1 KB BAK FILE
WININIT " /App 9 KB LGC FILE

are these the same???

I didnt go further, but browsed the links you gave; if I was a Monk
with
nothing else on my hands (just got back from a funeral of a 23 years
old...)
I would read them all...the only WININIT.INI I found is in the
run|msconfig|selective startup=win.ini file, is that the same?By the
way
the
first file above opens in DOS and is an .EXE FILE.
I'm at a lost what to do to get rid of those TEMP files in the _restore
file...which may or may not slow my CPU, your guest is better (a lot)
than
mine. Tks Noel for the time
PAT (Paul)


Noel: Nov 1/04 4:58pm

Noel: RE Very Slow:

tried Start|Run|SCANREG /FIX|OK several times (note the space before
/FIX) all I get is the following message:

"Windows cannot find 'SCANREG'. You may have typed the name
incorrectly
in the Run dialog, or another open program cannot find a system file. To
search for a file, click the Start button, and then click Search"

On a Search for SCANREG I get:

NAME FOLDER SIZE TYPE

SCANREGW C:WINDOWS 124KB APPLICATION (REGISTRY CHECKER)

SCANREG C:WINDOWS\COMMAND 169KB APPL.

SCANREG C:WIN\OPTIONS\CABS 169KB APPL.

Where do we go from there? Sorry for the inconvenience, wonder if its
worth
it...the CPU IS very slow. Tks.
PAT (Paul)

Noel, re very slow:

In the System Configuration Utility, I get:

Box Variable Value

ticked PROMPT $p$g

ticked TEMP C:\WINDOWS\TEMP

ticked TMP C:\WUBDIWS\TENP

ticked PATH C:\IBMTOOLS

Would you please confirm your instructions of editing and replacing by:
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND (no space). If it was misdirected to
C:\IBMTOOLS what is the next step? Yes I'm chicken...Pls advice and again
tks.
PAT (Paul)



"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like your PATH is being misdirected.....

in MSCONFIG, look in the Environment tab - what's there?

The PATH statement should just read
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
(note, no spaces)
if it reads anything else, use the Edit button, and change the variable
value to that above, after making a note of the current value - which you
should post back so we can have a look.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
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"PAT (Paul)" wrote in message
...


"Noel Paton" wrote:

No - those WININIT.INI files are 'normal'
try the scanreg...
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"PAT (Paul)" PAT wrote in message
...


"Noel Paton" wrote:

Paul
3000 files in the c:\_Restore hierarchy is a little excessive - but
not
impossibly so.

What size is your HD?
don't worry about the date of the CPY files - that's the date of the
files
that they're copies of, rather than the date the CPY files were
created.
I suspect here that we have the 'normal' corruption created by Norton.

First reboot, then if the WININIT.INI file still exists, open the
WININIT.INI file in NotePad, copy the contents to your response, then
close
Notepad, and rename the file to WININIT.JNK.
Then
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot
Check again for the WININIT.INI file, and delete it if it's still
there!

then leave the system alone for at least half an hour, and see if
anything
has happened to your SR archive contents.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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NG's

"PAT (pAUL)" PAT wrote in message
...
Ping: Noel Paton

In July 2003, Cheryl had a similar problem: slow startup due, if my
memory
serves me right: 3 GB in 66,000 files in 5 folders in her hidden
file
_Restore. You traced the problem in the hidden folder
C:\_Restore\Temp.
Then I left on holidays and lost track. Could you please help me
with:
Slow computer: in the same folder, its properties give: 948 MB
in
3000
files and 5 folders, all CPY files, very few zero, several fairly
large
files, the oldest ones are back in 2001...
I remember a few questions: here are my answers:
. Using Norton NIS .Using manual mode updates
.There is a WININIT.INI file in the C:\Windows folder
.Free space in C: 14 out of 20 GB
.Actual Space taken in the c:\_Restore folder 313 MB set near
Min
.No WININIT.ERR file in Windows
.Not running GoBack
Note that not allowed to delete any of those TEMP files in
C:\_Restore\Temp
files "access denied...etc"
Would appreiate if you could help. Tks in advance.
Paul


Oct 31/04
Noel:
Tks for fast response re "Very slow".
My HD is 20 GB of which 4 is used and 16 free GB. using WIN Me.
There is no WININIT.INI IN A SEARCH, nor in my WINDOWS folder.
However I get 6 WININIT files:
WININIT C:\WINDOWNS 46 KB APPLICATION
WININIT " 13 KB SAV FILE
wininitlog " 1 kb OLD file
wininit " 2 KB Test Document
WININIT " 1 KB BAK FILE
WININIT " /App 9 KB LGC FILE

are these the same???

I didnt go further, but browsed the links you gave; if I was a Monk
with
nothing else on my hands (just got back from a funeral of a 23 years
old...)
I would read them all...the only WININIT.INI I found is in the
run|msconfig|selective startup=win.ini file, is that the same?By the
way
the
first file above opens in DOS and is an .EXE FILE.
I'm at a lost what to do to get rid of those TEMP files in the _restore
file...which may or may not slow my CPU, your guest is better (a lot)
than
mine. Tks Noel for the time
PAT (Paul)


Noel: Nov 1/04 4:58pm

Noel: RE Very Slow:

tried Start|Run|SCANREG /FIX|OK several times (note the space before
/FIX) all I get is the following message:

"Windows cannot find 'SCANREG'. You may have typed the name
incorrectly
in the Run dialog, or another open program cannot find a system file. To
search for a file, click the Start button, and then click Search"

On a Search for SCANREG I get:

NAME FOLDER SIZE TYPE

SCANREGW C:WINDOWS 124KB APPLICATION (REGISTRY CHECKER)

SCANREG C:WINDOWS\COMMAND 169KB APPL.

SCANREG C:WIN\OPTIONS\CABS 169KB APPL.

Where do we go from there? Sorry for the inconvenience, wonder if its
worth
it...the CPU IS very slow. Tks.
PAT (Paul)

WOW - that really is corrupted! - I'm surprised the system does anything at
all!
Change the lines to the following....

PROMPT $p$g

TEMP C:\WINDOWS\TEMP

TMP C:\WINDOWS\TEMP

PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\IBMTOOLS

Click OK out, and reboot - see if that helps immediately, and then try the
SCANREG /FIX again

--
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"PAT (Paul)" wrote in message
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Noel, re very slow:

In the System Configuration Utility, I get:

Box Variable Value

ticked PROMPT $p$g

ticked TEMP C:\WINDOWS\TEMP

ticked TMP C:\WUBDIWS\TENP

ticked PATH C:\IBMTOOLS

Would you please confirm your instructions of editing and replacing by:
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND (no space). If it was misdirected to
C:\IBMTOOLS what is the next step? Yes I'm chicken...Pls advice and
again
tks.
PAT (Paul)



"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like your PATH is being misdirected.....

in MSCONFIG, look in the Environment tab - what's there?

The PATH statement should just read
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
(note, no spaces)
if it reads anything else, use the Edit button, and change the variable
value to that above, after making a note of the current value - which
you
should post back so we can have a look.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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"Noel Paton" wrote:

No - those WININIT.INI files are 'normal'
try the scanreg...
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot


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"Noel Paton" wrote:

Paul
3000 files in the c:\_Restore hierarchy is a little excessive - but
not
impossibly so.

What size is your HD?
don't worry about the date of the CPY files - that's the date of
the
files
that they're copies of, rather than the date the CPY files were
created.
I suspect here that we have the 'normal' corruption created by
Norton.

First reboot, then if the WININIT.INI file still exists, open the
WININIT.INI file in NotePad, copy the contents to your response,
then
close
Notepad, and rename the file to WININIT.JNK.
Then
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot
Check again for the WININIT.INI file, and delete it if it's still
there!

then leave the system alone for at least half an hour, and see if
anything
has happened to your SR archive contents.


--
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"PAT (pAUL)" PAT wrote in
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Ping: Noel Paton

In July 2003, Cheryl had a similar problem: slow startup due, if
my
memory
serves me right: 3 GB in 66,000 files in 5 folders in her hidden
file
_Restore. You traced the problem in the hidden folder
C:\_Restore\Temp.
Then I left on holidays and lost track. Could you please help
me
with:
Slow computer: in the same folder, its properties give: 948
MB
in
3000
files and 5 folders, all CPY files, very few zero, several fairly
large
files, the oldest ones are back in 2001...
I remember a few questions: here are my answers:
. Using Norton NIS .Using manual mode updates
.There is a WININIT.INI file in the C:\Windows folder
.Free space in C: 14 out of 20 GB
.Actual Space taken in the c:\_Restore folder 313 MB set near
Min
.No WININIT.ERR file in Windows
.Not running GoBack
Note that not allowed to delete any of those TEMP files in
C:\_Restore\Temp
files "access denied...etc"
Would appreiate if you could help. Tks in advance.
Paul


Oct 31/04
Noel:
Tks for fast response re "Very slow".
My HD is 20 GB of which 4 is used and 16 free GB. using WIN Me.
There is no WININIT.INI IN A SEARCH, nor in my WINDOWS folder.
However I get 6 WININIT files:
WININIT C:\WINDOWNS 46 KB APPLICATION
WININIT " 13 KB SAV FILE
wininitlog " 1 kb OLD file
wininit " 2 KB Test Document
WININIT " 1 KB BAK FILE
WININIT " /App 9 KB LGC FILE

are these the same???

I didnt go further, but browsed the links you gave; if I was a Monk
with
nothing else on my hands (just got back from a funeral of a 23 years
old...)
I would read them all...the only WININIT.INI I found is in the
run|msconfig|selective startup=win.ini file, is that the same?By
the
way
the
first file above opens in DOS and is an .EXE FILE.
I'm at a lost what to do to get rid of those TEMP files in the
_restore
file...which may or may not slow my CPU, your guest is better (a
lot)
than
mine. Tks Noel for the time
PAT (Paul)


Noel: Nov 1/04 4:58pm

Noel: RE Very Slow:

tried Start|Run|SCANREG /FIX|OK several times (note the space
before
/FIX) all I get is the following message:

"Windows cannot find 'SCANREG'. You may have typed the name
incorrectly
in the Run dialog, or another open program cannot find a system file.
To
search for a file, click the Start button, and then click Search"

On a Search for SCANREG I get:

NAME FOLDER SIZE TYPE

SCANREGW C:WINDOWS 124KB APPLICATION (REGISTRY CHECKER)

SCANREG C:WINDOWS\COMMAND 169KB APPL.

SCANREG C:WIN\OPTIONS\CABS 169KB APPL.

Where do we go from there? Sorry for the inconvenience, wonder if its
worth
it...the CPU IS very slow. Tks.
PAT (Paul)

Noel. very slow.

You suggest:
The PATH statement should just read
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\IBMTOOLS
(note, no spaces)
if it reads anything else, use the Edit button, and change the variable
value to that above, after making a note of the current value - which you
should post back so we ca________________

Noel: re very slow: Nov 2/04 227pm
Did what you suggested: edited the PATH to read:
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\IBMTOOLS In the environment tab of
MSCONFIG and rebooted. SCANREG /FIX worked ok. Cant really see much
difference in the speed, but can live with it; I will look into my startup
items. By the way I still have 2858 files of 5.10 MB in C:\_RESTORE\TEMP IS
THAT OK? Seems a lot. Also cheked my restore points in Windows Restore
and they are the same.
Lets give it a rest, and tks for your valuable help.
PAT (paul)







"Noel Paton" wrote:

WOW - that really is corrupted! - I'm surprised the system does anything at
all!
Change the lines to the following....

PROMPT $p$g

TEMP C:\WINDOWS\TEMP

TMP C:\WINDOWS\TEMP

PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\IBMTOOLS

Click OK out, and reboot - see if that helps immediately, and then try the
SCANREG /FIX again

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"PAT (Paul)" wrote in message
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Noel, re very slow:

In the System Configuration Utility, I get:

Box Variable Value

ticked PROMPT $p$g

ticked TEMP C:\WINDOWS\TEMP

ticked TMP C:\WUBDIWS\TENP

ticked PATH C:\IBMTOOLS

Would you please confirm your instructions of editing and replacing by:
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND (no space). If it was misdirected to
C:\IBMTOOLS what is the next step? Yes I'm chicken...Pls advice and
again
tks.
PAT (Paul)



"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like your PATH is being misdirected.....

in MSCONFIG, look in the Environment tab - what's there?

The PATH statement should just read
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
(note, no spaces)
if it reads anything else, use the Edit button, and change the variable
value to that above, after making a note of the current value - which
you
should post back so we can have a look.

HTH

--
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"PAT (Paul)" wrote in message
...


"Noel Paton" wrote:

No - those WININIT.INI files are 'normal'
try the scanreg...
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot


--
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"PAT (Paul)" PAT wrote in message
...


"Noel Paton" wrote:

Paul
3000 files in the c:\_Restore hierarchy is a little excessive - but
not
impossibly so.

What size is your HD?
don't worry about the date of the CPY files - that's the date of
the
files
that they're copies of, rather than the date the CPY files were
created.
I suspect here that we have the 'normal' corruption created by
Norton.

First reboot, then if the WININIT.INI file still exists, open the
WININIT.INI file in NotePad, copy the contents to your response,
then
close
Notepad, and rename the file to WININIT.JNK.
Then
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot
Check again for the WININIT.INI file, and delete it if it's still
there!

then leave the system alone for at least half an hour, and see if
anything
has happened to your SR archive contents.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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"PAT (pAUL)" PAT wrote in
message
...
Ping: Noel Paton

In July 2003, Cheryl had a similar problem: slow startup due, if
my
memory
serves me right: 3 GB in 66,000 files in 5 folders in her hidden
file
_Restore. You traced the problem in the hidden folder
C:\_Restore\Temp.
Then I left on holidays and lost track. Could you please help
me
with:
Slow computer: in the same folder, its properties give: 948
MB
in
3000
files and 5 folders, all CPY files, very few zero, several fairly
large
files, the oldest ones are back in 2001...
I remember a few questions: here are my answers:
. Using Norton NIS .Using manual mode updates
.There is a WININIT.INI file in the C:\Windows folder
.Free space in C: 14 out of 20 GB
.Actual Space taken in the c:\_Restore folder 313 MB set near
Min
.No WININIT.ERR file in Windows
.Not running GoBack
Note that not allowed to delete any of those TEMP files in
C:\_Restore\Temp
files "access denied...etc"
Would appreiate if you could help. Tks in advance.
Paul


Oct 31/04
Noel:
Tks for fast response re "Very slow".
My HD is 20 GB of which 4 is used and 16 free GB. using WIN Me.
There is no WININIT.INI IN A SEARCH, nor in my WINDOWS folder.
However I get 6 WININIT files:
WININIT C:\WINDOWNS 46 KB APPLICATION
WININIT " 13 KB SAV FILE
wininitlog " 1 kb OLD file
wininit " 2 KB Test Document
WININIT " 1 KB BAK FILE
WININIT " /App 9 KB LGC FILE

are these the same???

I didnt go further, but browsed the links you gave; if I was a Monk
with
nothing else on my hands (just got back from a funeral of a 23 years
old...)
I would read them all...the only WININIT.INI I found is in the
run|msconfig|selective startup=win.ini file, is that the same?By
the
way
the
first file above opens in DOS and is an .EXE FILE.
I'm at a lost what to do to get rid of those TEMP files in the
_restore
file...which may or may not slow my CPU, your guest is better (a
lot)
than
mine. Tks Noel for the time
PAT (Paul)


Noel: Nov 1/04 4:58pm

Noel: RE Very Slow:

tried Start|Run|SCANREG /FIX|OK several times (note the space
before
/FIX) all I get is the following message:

"Windows cannot find 'SCANREG'. You may have typed the name
incorrectly
in the Run dialog, or another open program cannot find a system file.
To
search for a file, click the Start button, and then click Search"

On a Search for SCANREG I get:

NAME FOLDER SIZE TYPE

SCANREGW C:WINDOWS 124KB APPLICATION (REGISTRY CHECKER)

SCANREG C:WINDOWS\COMMAND 169KB APPL.

SCANREG C:WIN\OPTIONS\CABS 169KB APPL.

Where do we go from there? Sorry for the inconvenience, wonder if its
worth
it...the CPU IS very slow. Tks.
PAT (Paul)

That looks pretty good, for System Restore - rather more files than I'd like
for only 5.1MB - but not impossible

OTOH, if you have more than one or two points available for System Restore,
it's almost certainly an indicator that SR is broken, and needs to be reset.


To Reset System Restore -
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This will flush you restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck
"Disable System Restore",
Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately following
the restart.
Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder,
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore slider
to your preferred setting.

Most people find that a setting of 200-300MB is sufficient to hold 10-15
days worth of restore points, unless you are doing a lot of
installs/uninstalls, or installing large applications (such as Office).


--
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"PAT (Paul)" wrote in message
...
Noel. very slow.

You suggest:
The PATH statement should just read
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\IBMTOOLS
(note, no spaces)
if it reads anything else, use the Edit button, and change the variable
value to that above, after making a note of the current value - which
you
should post back so we ca________________

Noel: re very slow: Nov 2/04 227pm
Did what you suggested: edited the PATH to read:
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\IBMTOOLS In the environment tab
of
MSCONFIG and rebooted. SCANREG /FIX worked ok. Cant really see much
difference in the speed, but can live with it; I will look into my
startup
items. By the way I still have 2858 files of 5.10 MB in C:\_RESTORE\TEMP
IS
THAT OK? Seems a lot. Also cheked my restore points in Windows Restore
and they are the same.
Lets give it a rest, and tks for your valuable help.
PAT (paul)







"Noel Paton" wrote:

WOW - that really is corrupted! - I'm surprised the system does anything
at
all!
Change the lines to the following....

PROMPT $p$g

TEMP C:\WINDOWS\TEMP

TMP C:\WINDOWS\TEMP

PATH C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\IBMTOOLS

Click OK out, and reboot - see if that helps immediately, and then try
the
SCANREG /FIX again

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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"PAT (Paul)" wrote in message
...

Noel, re very slow:

In the System Configuration Utility, I get:

Box Variable Value

ticked PROMPT $p$g

ticked TEMP C:\WINDOWS\TEMP

ticked TMP C:\WUBDIWS\TENP

ticked PATH C:\IBMTOOLS

Would you please confirm your instructions of editing and replacing by:
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND (no space). If it was misdirected to
C:\IBMTOOLS what is the next step? Yes I'm chicken...Pls advice and
again
tks.
PAT (Paul)



"Noel Paton" wrote:

Sounds like your PATH is being misdirected.....

in MSCONFIG, look in the Environment tab - what's there?

The PATH statement should just read
C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
(note, no spaces)
if it reads anything else, use the Edit button, and change the
variable
value to that above, after making a note of the current value - which
you
should post back so we can have a look.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
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NG's

"PAT (Paul)" wrote in message
...


"Noel Paton" wrote:

No - those WININIT.INI files are 'normal'
try the scanreg...
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
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"PAT (Paul)" PAT wrote in
message
...


"Noel Paton" wrote:

Paul
3000 files in the c:\_Restore hierarchy is a little excessive -
but
not
impossibly so.

What size is your HD?
don't worry about the date of the CPY files - that's the date of
the
files
that they're copies of, rather than the date the CPY files were
created.
I suspect here that we have the 'normal' corruption created by
Norton.

First reboot, then if the WININIT.INI file still exists, open
the
WININIT.INI file in NotePad, copy the contents to your response,
then
close
Notepad, and rename the file to WININIT.JNK.
Then
Start|Run
type
SCANREG /FIX
click OK - Windows will reboot
Check again for the WININIT.INI file, and delete it if it's
still
there!

then leave the system alone for at least half an hour, and see
if
anything
has happened to your SR archive contents.


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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to
NG's

"PAT (pAUL)" PAT wrote in
message
...
Ping: Noel Paton

In July 2003, Cheryl had a similar problem: slow startup due,
if
my
memory
serves me right: 3 GB in 66,000 files in 5 folders in her
hidden
file
_Restore. You traced the problem in the hidden folder
C:\_Restore\Temp.
Then I left on holidays and lost track. Could you please
help
me
with:
Slow computer: in the same folder, its properties give:
948
MB
in
3000
files and 5 folders, all CPY files, very few zero, several
fairly
large
files, the oldest ones are back in 2001...
I remember a few questions: here are my answers:
. Using Norton NIS .Using manual mode updates
.There is a WININIT.INI file in the C:\Windows folder
.Free space in C: 14 out of 20 GB
.Actual Space taken in the c:\_Restore folder 313 MB set
near
Min
.No WININIT.ERR file in Windows
.Not running GoBack
Note that not allowed to delete any of those TEMP files in
C:\_Restore\Temp
files "access denied...etc"
Would appreiate if you could help. Tks in advance.
Paul


Oct 31/04
Noel:
Tks for fast response re "Very slow".
My HD is 20 GB of which 4 is used and 16 free GB. using WIN Me.
There is no WININIT.INI IN A SEARCH, nor in my WINDOWS folder.
However I get 6 WININIT files:
WININIT C:\WINDOWNS 46 KB APPLICATION
WININIT " 13 KB SAV FILE
wininitlog " 1 kb OLD file
wininit " 2 KB Test Document
WININIT " 1 KB BAK FILE
WININIT " /App 9 KB LGC FILE

are these the same???

I didnt go further, but browsed the links you gave; if I was a
Monk
with
nothing else on my hands (just got back from a funeral of a 23
years
old...)
I would read them all...the only WININIT.INI I found is in the
run|msconfig|selective startup=win.ini file, is that the same?By
the
way
the
first file above opens in DOS and is an .EXE FILE.
I'm at a lost what to do to get rid of those TEMP files in the
_restore
file...which may or may not slow my CPU, your guest is better (a
lot)
than
mine. Tks Noel for the time
PAT (Paul)


Noel: Nov 1/04 4:58pm

Noel: RE Very Slow:

tried Start|Run|SCANREG /FIX|OK several times (note the space
before
/FIX) all I get is the following message:

"Windows cannot find 'SCANREG'. You may have typed the name
incorrectly
in the Run dialog, or another open program cannot find a system
file.
To
search for a file, click the Start button, and then click Search"

On a Search for SCANREG I get:

NAME FOLDER SIZE TYPE

SCANREGW C:WINDOWS 124KB APPLICATION (REGISTRY CHECKER)

SCANREG C:WINDOWS\COMMAND 169KB APPL.

SCANREG C:WIN\OPTIONS\CABS 169KB APPL.

Where do we go from there? Sorry for the inconvenience, wonder if
its
worth
it...the CPU IS very slow. Tks.
PAT (Paul)