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  #11  
Old June 14th 04, 10:49 PM
PCR
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Default frozen WindowsMediaPlayer

"Pure" BS may last more than 5 years,-- but it has to be pure!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"ArtWilder" wrote in message
news:4X8zc.65564$My6.47172@fed1read05...
| As far as moving your VHS collection to DVD's --- is this a waste of
time?
| Someone told me burned cds will only last about five years and I
wonder if
| this (wisdom?) carries over to DVD's as well. This person said that
| Hollywood uses a different more advanced technology that will not
disappear
| with age. Any truth in all of this or is it pure bs?
|
| "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| ...
| Did you download ALL the codec packs? I looked on my HD and found
ones I
| had collected over the eons, called:
| Wmp6cdcs.exe
| wmpcdcs8.exe
| wmpcdcs8a.exe
| wmv9VCMsetup.exe
|
| Who knows, I might have missed some. But I also have other media
| players,
| like Nero and Neo. (For the movie files, I usually end up using
those).
| My most recent project has been trying to get my VHS tapes converted
over
| to
| DVDs, so that's why I have those).
|
| By the way, I also tried out Media Player Classic (free), and liked
it a
| LOT, but it seemed a tad buggy (in one or two instances). Don't
know
| if
| you've tried that one or not.
|
| Steven Burn wrote:
| hehe strangely, I prefer 6.4 too......... unfortunately however,
it
| won't
| play a few of my video's ( (tried updating the code's etc,
didn't work
| unfortunately..... but 7.1 plays them no problem)
|
| --
|
| Regards
|
| Steven Burn
| Ur I.T. Mate Group
|
www.it-mate.co.uk
|
| Keeping it FREE!
|
|
| "Bill in Co." wrote in message
| ...
| I'd say you ought to count your blessings, Steve. Seriously.
Even
| 7.1
| is a bit of an albatross. I never reinstalled 7.1 after
reinstalling
| Windows, as I still prefer 6.4 (with the updated codecs). (along
with
| some
| other apps, like Winamp and MMJB).
|
| Steven Burn wrote:
| I got 7.1. running on my 98SE system, but could never get 8.x or
| higher
| to
| run, so figured feck it, and didn't bother trying again ;o)
|
| --
|
| Regards
|
| Steven Burn
| Ur I.T. Mate Group
| www.it-mate.co.uk
|
| Keeping it FREE!
|
|
| "robert" wrote in message
| ...
| My MS Windows Media player version 9.0 won't run.
| Uninstalled it, re-download from MS website then
| re-installed...same problem.
| What must i do to make my MS media player up & running?
| Thanx for your help.
|
|
|
|


  #12  
Old June 15th 04, 06:42 PM
Andereida
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Default frozen WindowsMediaPlayer

I also have 7.1 running with win98 1st Ed. Concerned to discover a news site
with video content doing an installed player check before running a video.
They said there was an updated MS player available. On going to MS download
page it said that my version was the latest supported on win98FE. Back to
the news site and we start over again....

This is getting a pain. Can't get a video to run on that site.

Andereida


"Steven Burn" wrote in message
...
I got 7.1. running on my 98SE system, but could never get 8.x or higher to
run, so figured feck it, and didn't bother trying again ;o)

--

Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!


"robert" wrote in message
...
My MS Windows Media player version 9.0 won't run.
Uninstalled it, re-download from MS website then
re-installed...same problem.
What must i do to make my MS media player up & running?
Thanx for your help.





  #13  
Old June 15th 04, 08:26 PM
Bill Blanton
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Default frozen WindowsMediaPlayer

I've got some retail music CDs about 15 years old that are
starting to show pinholes if you hold them up to the light.
Never been out of the house..always put in the jewel case..

Burned media, isn't as good as "physical" media..but 5 yrs
does seem a bit short.

Here's the news stroy that prompted me to check em out..
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/05/06/disc.rot.ap/



"Bill in Co." wrote in message ...
I don't believe DVDs only last 5 years. I think it's total BS.

ArtWilder wrote:
As far as moving your VHS collection to DVD's --- is this a waste of time?
Someone told me burned cds will only last about five years and I wonder if
this (wisdom?) carries over to DVD's as well. This person said that
Hollywood uses a different more advanced technology that will not

disappear
with age. Any truth in all of this or is it pure bs?

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Did you download ALL the codec packs? I looked on my HD and found ones I
had collected over the eons, called:
Wmp6cdcs.exe
wmpcdcs8.exe
wmpcdcs8a.exe
wmv9VCMsetup.exe

Who knows, I might have missed some. But I also have other media

players,
like Nero and Neo. (For the movie files, I usually end up using

those).
My most recent project has been trying to get my VHS tapes converted over

to
DVDs, so that's why I have those).

By the way, I also tried out Media Player Classic (free), and liked it a
LOT, but it seemed a tad buggy (in one or two instances). Don't know

if
you've tried that one or not.

Steven Burn wrote:
hehe strangely, I prefer 6.4 too......... unfortunately however, it

won't
play a few of my video's ( (tried updating the code's etc, didn't work
unfortunately..... but 7.1 plays them no problem)

--

Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
I'd say you ought to count your blessings, Steve. Seriously. Even

7.1
is a bit of an albatross. I never reinstalled 7.1 after reinstalling
Windows, as I still prefer 6.4 (with the updated codecs). (along with

some
other apps, like Winamp and MMJB).

Steven Burn wrote:
I got 7.1. running on my 98SE system, but could never get 8.x or

higher to
run, so figured feck it, and didn't bother trying again ;o)

--

Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!


"robert" wrote in message
...
My MS Windows Media player version 9.0 won't run.
Uninstalled it, re-download from MS website then
re-installed...same problem.
What must i do to make my MS media player up & running?
Thanx for your help.





  #14  
Old June 15th 04, 09:00 PM
AAH
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Default frozen WindowsMediaPlayer

Bill
Thanks for the reference.


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Here is a good site. With a LOT of reading material!

www.videohelp.com


AAH wrote:
Bill
Where can i find some details about converstion VHS ape to DVD and also
any reeware utility that can do this?
Thanks



"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Did you download ALL the codec packs? I looked on my HD and found ones I
had collected over the eons, called:
Wmp6cdcs.exe
wmpcdcs8.exe
wmpcdcs8a.exe
wmv9VCMsetup.exe

Who knows, I might have missed some. But I also have other media

players,
like Nero and Neo. (For the movie files, I usually end up using those).
My most recent project has been trying to get my VHS tapes converted over

to
DVDs, so that's why I have those).

By the way, I also tried out Media Player Classic (free), and liked it a
LOT, but it seemed a tad buggy (in one or two instances). Don't know

if
you've tried that one or not.

Steven Burn wrote:
hehe strangely, I prefer 6.4 too......... unfortunately however, it won't
play a few of my video's ( (tried updating the code's etc, didn't work
unfortunately..... but 7.1 plays them no problem)

--

Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
I'd say you ought to count your blessings, Steve. Seriously. Even

7.1
is a bit of an albatross. I never reinstalled 7.1 after reinstalling
Windows, as I still prefer 6.4 (with the updated codecs). (along with

some
other apps, like Winamp and MMJB).

Steven Burn wrote:
I got 7.1. running on my 98SE system, but could never get 8.x or higher

to
run, so figured feck it, and didn't bother trying again ;o)

--

Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!


"robert" wrote in message
...
My MS Windows Media player version 9.0 won't run.
Uninstalled it, re-download from MS website then
re-installed...same problem.
What must i do to make my MS media player up & running?
Thanx for your help.




  #15  
Old June 16th 04, 05:08 PM
LuckyStrike
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Default frozen WindowsMediaPlayer

Yeah Bill, that's some re-assuring... Thanks a LOT. :-(

Whatever, business anyone is in, it's the wrong business! Music, film media
is the way to go!

Since it's inception, the media has changed on a constant basis. How "nice"
to have to buy the same thing (when you can find it again) over and over and
over in a different format. Not to mention the Hardware itself. :-\ OK,
for those that have stored tapes in 110 degree cars, stacked records
horizontally, played them with a quarter on the Tonearm, use CD's as drink
coasters and pick em up with sweaty hands.... you deserve it. But for those
who care for their media, it's a d****** shame.

Also, I've heard that high humidity is not conducive to long life of burned
media as well. True...false?
--

LuckyStrike

--------------------------------------------------------------------
"Bill Blanton" wrote in message
...
I've got some retail music CDs about 15 years old that are
starting to show pinholes if you hold them up to the light.
Never been out of the house..always put in the jewel case..

Burned media, isn't as good as "physical" media..but 5 yrs
does seem a bit short.

Here's the news stroy that prompted me to check em out..
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/05/06/disc.rot.ap/




  #16  
Old June 16th 04, 10:13 PM
Bill in Co.
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Default frozen WindowsMediaPlayer

LuckyStrike wrote:
Yeah Bill, that's some re-assuring... Thanks a LOT. :-(


Well, he was talking about some CDs of 15 years ago. Hopefully the
technology has improved. I wonder if was isolated to one or two particular
brands?

Whatever, business anyone is in, it's the wrong business! Music, film

media
is the way to go!

Since it's inception, the media has changed on a constant basis. How

"nice"
to have to buy the same thing (when you can find it again) over and over

and
over in a different format.


Hey look, Lucky. Just HOW do you expect those RIAA execs, and their
outstanding legal staff, to make a good living, if they don't do that?
You meanie!!

Not to mention the Hardware itself. :-\ OK,
for those that have stored tapes in 110 degree cars, stacked records
horizontally, played them with a quarter on the Tonearm, use CD's as drink
coasters and pick em up with sweaty hands.... you deserve it. But for

those
who care for their media, it's a d****** shame.

Also, I've heard that high humidity is not conducive to long life of

burned
media as well. True...false?
--

LuckyStrike

--------------------------------------------------------------------
"Bill Blanton" wrote in message
...
I've got some retail music CDs about 15 years old that are
starting to show pinholes if you hold them up to the light.
Never been out of the house..always put in the jewel case..

Burned media, isn't as good as "physical" media..but 5 yrs
does seem a bit short.

Here's the news stroy that prompted me to check em out..
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/05/06/disc.rot.ap/



  #17  
Old June 16th 04, 11:08 PM
LuckyStrike
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Default frozen WindowsMediaPlayer

Aaah, 15 years ago old stuff... then a new technology is definitely in
order. :-\ I've a few thousand dollars burning a hole in my pocket for a
new medium anyway; just gotta clear some room in the warehouse to store all
the "soon to be old" stuff, that's all.

Anyway, if the CD aluminum (aluminium for any of our Limey friends) or
sealer layer problem was isolated to one or two brands, who's talking? It's
all very "hush-hush". The article expressed how if a firm changes something
in the manufacturing process, they don't necessarily advertise that fact.
:-| Also, I've seen CD's that were brand new that had some of the pinholes
that Bill referred to. I think the sampling rate compensates for these
imperfections. But, if the layer of aluminum starts decrepitating as the
article described, well, all I can say is "Houston, we've got a problem...".

Lastly: Yes...it's true...I'm a meanie...just like them; gotta look after my
own interest and investment here. =-D Anyway, nothing lasts...and most stuff
is *definitely* made with the planned obsolescence theory at the forefront.
I've had a tanks of gas which lasted longer than some products. G

LS
------------------------
"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
LuckyStrike wrote:
Yeah Bill, that's some re-assuring... Thanks a LOT. :-(


Well, he was talking about some CDs of 15 years ago. Hopefully the
technology has improved. I wonder if was isolated to one or two

particular
brands?

Whatever, business anyone is in, it's the wrong business! Music, film

media
is the way to go!

Since it's inception, the media has changed on a constant basis. How

"nice"
to have to buy the same thing (when you can find it again) over and over

and
over in a different format.


Hey look, Lucky. Just HOW do you expect those RIAA execs, and their
outstanding legal staff, to make a good living, if they don't do that?
You meanie!!

Not to mention the Hardware itself. :-\ OK,
for those that have stored tapes in 110 degree cars, stacked records
horizontally, played them with a quarter on the Tonearm, use CD's as

drink
coasters and pick em up with sweaty hands.... you deserve it. But for

those
who care for their media, it's a d****** shame.

Also, I've heard that high humidity is not conducive to long life of

burned
media as well. True...false?
--

LuckyStrike

--------------------------------------------------------------------
"Bill Blanton" wrote in message
...
I've got some retail music CDs about 15 years old that are
starting to show pinholes if you hold them up to the light.
Never been out of the house..always put in the jewel case..

Burned media, isn't as good as "physical" media..but 5 yrs
does seem a bit short.

Here's the news stroy that prompted me to check em out..
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/05/06/disc.rot.ap/





  #18  
Old June 17th 04, 01:05 AM
Bill Blanton
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Default frozen WindowsMediaPlayer


"Bill in Co." wrote in message ...
LuckyStrike wrote:
Yeah Bill, that's some re-assuring... Thanks a LOT. :-(


Well, he was talking about some CDs of 15 years ago. Hopefully the
technology has improved. I wonder if was isolated to one or two particular
brands?


The one I specifically remember was Grateful Dead - American Beauty.
Dunno the brand, but it was the first one I checked, It took some
searching to find another one.

Since it's inception, the media has changed on a constant basis.


Not to mention the Hardware itself. :-\ OK,
for those that have stored tapes in 110 degree cars, stacked records
horizontally, played them with a quarter on the Tonearm, use CD's as drink
coasters and pick em up with sweaty hands.... you deserve it. But for those
who care for their media, it's a d****** shame.


Never use anything heavier than a dime


Also, I've heard that high humidity is not conducive to long life of burned
media as well. True...false?


I've heard that too. Mabey the cdr-faq?


  #19  
Old June 17th 04, 01:06 AM
Bill Blanton
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Default frozen WindowsMediaPlayer

I was told they last forever, but my lifetime would have been
sufficient. ("they" also told me that we wouldn't have to watch
commercials on cable TV.) Liars!

We need to copy all our albums, CDs, videos, dvds, cassettes and
if you have 'em 8-tracks to a HD. And then, of course, back it up...


"LuckyStrike" om wrote in message ...
Aaah, 15 years ago old stuff... then a new technology is definitely in
order. :-\ I've a few thousand dollars burning a hole in my pocket for a
new medium anyway; just gotta clear some room in the warehouse to store all
the "soon to be old" stuff, that's all.

Anyway, if the CD aluminum (aluminium for any of our Limey friends) or
sealer layer problem was isolated to one or two brands, who's talking? It's
all very "hush-hush". The article expressed how if a firm changes something
in the manufacturing process, they don't necessarily advertise that fact.
:-| Also, I've seen CD's that were brand new that had some of the pinholes
that Bill referred to. I think the sampling rate compensates for these
imperfections. But, if the layer of aluminum starts decrepitating as the
article described, well, all I can say is "Houston, we've got a problem...".

Lastly: Yes...it's true...I'm a meanie...just like them; gotta look after my
own interest and investment here. =-D Anyway, nothing lasts...and most stuff
is *definitely* made with the planned obsolescence theory at the forefront.
I've had a tanks of gas which lasted longer than some products. G

LS
------------------------
"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
LuckyStrike wrote:
Yeah Bill, that's some re-assuring... Thanks a LOT. :-(


Well, he was talking about some CDs of 15 years ago. Hopefully the
technology has improved. I wonder if was isolated to one or two

particular
brands?

Whatever, business anyone is in, it's the wrong business! Music, film

media
is the way to go!

Since it's inception, the media has changed on a constant basis. How

"nice"
to have to buy the same thing (when you can find it again) over and over

and
over in a different format.


Hey look, Lucky. Just HOW do you expect those RIAA execs, and their
outstanding legal staff, to make a good living, if they don't do that?
You meanie!!

Not to mention the Hardware itself. :-\ OK,
for those that have stored tapes in 110 degree cars, stacked records
horizontally, played them with a quarter on the Tonearm, use CD's as

drink
coasters and pick em up with sweaty hands.... you deserve it. But for

those
who care for their media, it's a d****** shame.

Also, I've heard that high humidity is not conducive to long life of

burned
media as well. True...false?
--

LuckyStrike

--------------------------------------------------------------------
"Bill Blanton" wrote in message
...
I've got some retail music CDs about 15 years old that are
starting to show pinholes if you hold them up to the light.
Never been out of the house..always put in the jewel case..

Burned media, isn't as good as "physical" media..but 5 yrs
does seem a bit short.

Here's the news stroy that prompted me to check em out..
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/05/06/disc.rot.ap/







  #20  
Old June 17th 04, 03:14 AM
LuckyStrike
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Default frozen WindowsMediaPlayer <-- Now OT as Frozen (in time) Rip-Off...

Ha! LOL! ;-D

OK... as they said (and you reminded me) "...Better reception, *No*
commercials, Un-edited for your viewing pleasure, yada-yada, etc.
Yah...*Right!* It has become *none of the above*! Plus, one must now pay an
arm and a leg for what used to be free (and no worse, when you think about
it). Plus (again), as Curt C. and I were saying elsewhere, they make you pay
for, what do they call it...? Oh yeah, *Info-mercials*, and then they repeat
the same sorry and s***** movies 6 times - if not more - in a given week,
with the announcement "first time on (or premiere, or whatever) on TV." In
fact. they're still showing nonsense like "Mr. Ed", and "I love Lucy"" fer
petessake. Doncha' just love the "new" for higher prices? Yah...right,
again!

So...I commend you Bill, for your usual ability to remain level headed,
cool, and understated, in light of the above *Rip-OFF*!. G

But yes...you are right...'cept for the 8-Trax. hehe. ;-)

LuckyStrike
------------------------
"Bill Blanton" wrote in message
...
I was told they last forever, but my lifetime would have been
sufficient. ("they" also told me that we wouldn't have to watch
commercials on cable TV.) Liars!

We need to copy all our albums, CDs, videos, dvds, cassettes and
if you have 'em 8-tracks to a HD. And then, of course, back it up...


"LuckyStrike" wrote:
Aaah, 15 years ago old stuff... then a new technology is definitely in
order. :-\ I've a few thousand dollars burning a hole in my pocket for

a
new medium anyway; just gotta clear some room in the warehouse to store

all
the "soon to be old" stuff, that's all.

Anyway, if the CD aluminum (aluminium for any of our Limey friends) or
sealer layer problem was isolated to one or two brands, who's talking?

It's
all very "hush-hush". The article expressed how if a firm changes

something
in the manufacturing process, they don't necessarily advertise that

fact.
:-| Also, I've seen CD's that were brand new that had some of the

pinholes
that Bill referred to. I think the sampling rate compensates for these
imperfections. But, if the layer of aluminum starts decrepitating as the
article described, well, all I can say is "Houston, we've got a

problem...".

Lastly: Yes...it's true...I'm a meanie...just like them; gotta look

after my
own interest and investment here. =-D Anyway, nothing lasts...and most

stuff
is *definitely* made with the planned obsolescence theory at the

forefront.
I've had a tanks of gas which lasted longer than some products. G

LS
------------------------
"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
LuckyStrike wrote:
Yeah Bill, that's some re-assuring... Thanks a LOT. :-(

Well, he was talking about some CDs of 15 years ago. Hopefully the
technology has improved. I wonder if was isolated to one or two

particular
brands?

Whatever, business anyone is in, it's the wrong business! Music,

film
media
is the way to go!

Since it's inception, the media has changed on a constant basis. How
"nice"
to have to buy the same thing (when you can find it again) over and

over
and
over in a different format.

Hey look, Lucky. Just HOW do you expect those RIAA execs, and their
outstanding legal staff, to make a good living, if they don't do that?
You meanie!!

Not to mention the Hardware itself. :-\ OK,
for those that have stored tapes in 110 degree cars, stacked records
horizontally, played them with a quarter on the Tonearm, use CD's as

drink
coasters and pick em up with sweaty hands.... you deserve it. But

for
those
who care for their media, it's a d****** shame.

Also, I've heard that high humidity is not conducive to long life of
burned
media as well. True...false?
--
LuckyStrike

--------------------------------------------------------------------
"Bill Blanton" wrote in message
...
I've got some retail music CDs about 15 years old that are
starting to show pinholes if you hold them up to the light.
Never been out of the house..always put in the jewel case..

Burned media, isn't as good as "physical" media..but 5 yrs
does seem a bit short.

Here's the news stroy that prompted me to check em out..
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/05/06/disc.rot.ap/




 




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