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Monitor Problems - typo!!
Ooops..... (or use scanreg to create a backup) should have read (use
scanreg to restore registries and regedit to create backups) Mart |
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Spoke too soon.
It loaded two default monitors after it had been shut down for a while. Ham. "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... Well I've just done something that seems to have returned my display settings to how they were before. Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY the 0000 folder was empty: I made it the same as 0001. Then I removed the monitors from Device Manager in normal mode and chose Add New Hardware - Windows detected my monitor and a default ( as it was before). Now under HKLM\Enum\Monitor my monitor is listed directly under monitor and not included under Default_Monitor as it was before. Have I solved my problem!!! I will have to wait and see if it holds. I'm still confused over all the stuff under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY though. Ham. "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... My settings are/have been 800x600 at 85hz and at that I am/was very happy - a nice clear, bright display. The default setting pushes it down to 60hz and its not so bright and a bit flickery. I have the latest WinMe driver for my card but it isn't WHQL signed - the previous driver was but was causing similar problems. The AOpen card is gone - kaput and thrown away. I can't help thinking that something else in the registry is sending wrong information. I wish I knew more about the workings but my knowledge is sparse. The stuff under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY is particularily confusing - whats all that Nvidia stuff doing there? Why so many entries? What's default and glide all about? Is there really a creator of the universe? Hey Ho! - Sigh! Ham. "Mart" wrote in message ... My *guess* is that you may just have to live with the default monitor driver. I seem to remember that in some of my (earlier) WinMe boxes, monitors were a problem. The pnp wouldn't always enumerate correctly. I had a particular LG monitor that in spite of the 'correct' WinMe driver, would eventually return to the default model - and I just lived with it. Which brings me back to my previous suggestion of turning down the resolution a notch or two. Confirm that the video driver is WinMe compatible - try the MS default if necessary or even a Win98 driver. As a matter of interest, apart from not attaining the desired settings, does the card/monitor give a reasonable display? What happens if you re-substitute the original AOpen card, does the correct monitor driver get detected AND hold as the only monitor? Mart "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... I have tried doing this and just tried again - the problem persists. Windows detects the Display Adapter drivers, installs and asks to reboot, then loads again and detects default monitors. Looking at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR, after having removed the Monitors from Device Manager, it is empty as it is under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor. After reboot under HKLM\Enum\MONITOR there is a sub folder labelled DEFAULT_MONITOR and within that folder there are two mo one labelled 0001 and containing info on my monitor (after I've updated the driver in Display Properties) and the other labelled PCI_VEN_1002&DEV_5D44&SUBSYS_9A291509&REV_01_01080 0 containing info on the remaining default monitor. With the Display Adapter removed the listing under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY is the same apart from the folders 0011 and 0012 which are gone and return after reboot. Ham. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Try this first - it should help clear the registry out a little. Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager Remove ALL Display Adapters Remove ALL Monitors Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers - hopefully curing your problem. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Mart" wrote in message ... Just a couple of thoughts, maybe your video card isn't capable of a higher refresh rate at whatever the screen/colour resolution that you are trying to attain. Try reducing the screen size by one or two settings and see if that helps. Mart "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I don't have access to another monitor. The monitor driver I have is from the manufacturer and is for Wimme. I tried deleting the .inf file but no help - windows detects new hardware and loads 2 default monitors, I update the driver of the main one and either more default monitors load at next reboot or display properties wont let me increase the refresh rate even though my monitor is named correctly in display properties. Ham "Mart" wrote in message ... ........ Booting into safe mode and deleting the monitors hasn't solved the problem. Odd, as your registry 'appears' to still show 'numerous' (12?) monitors enumerated. Just wonder if the re-boot is pulling an 'old' registry back somehow. Can you temporally substitute with another monitor until you get a 'stable' registry? Have a look in your Windows\inf\others folder for monitor driver .inf files and delete (or rename) them. Then let the plug'n'play redetect. Have you tried the (monitor) manufacturers web site for WinMe drivers? Mart "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... I have been having some ongoing problems with my monitor reseting to a lower refresh rate and extra default monitors loading. Booting into safe mode and deleting the monitors hasn't solved the problem. I did a search in Groups and found a suggestion to delete everything in the registry under monitor in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR, HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor and everything under display in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY. I tried this along with uninstalling and reinstalling the video card and monitor drivers but then I just kept getting default monitors loading and much the same problems. I'm thinking that there must be something else in the registry or somewhere else sending wrong information. I have a CTX monitor and an ATI Radeon 9200se card.(Previously I had an AOpen Nvidia based card). There are muliple listings in the registry under monitor and display. I would appreaciate any help from someone with more knowledge about the registry than myself. PS. I did backup the registry before making changes and, when they didn't help, restored it again. Below is the text from the exported registry files. TIA, Ham. following snipped to reduce bandwidth |
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Monitor Problems
Ham, have you had a look at the ATI site for drivers?
http://www.atitech.ca/ Follow the 'Drivers & Software' tab prompts and you will find that there are 'issues' with the Radeon WinMe drivers, CATALYST 4.3 (and others?) being substituted. Might be worth a play with some of those on offer. I still think it's a video card issue rather than a monitor problem g Good luck Mart "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... Spoke too soon. It loaded two default monitors after it had been shut down for a while. Ham. "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... Well I've just done something that seems to have returned my display settings to how they were before. Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY the 0000 folder was empty: I made it the same as 0001. Then I removed the monitors from Device Manager in normal mode and chose Add New Hardware - Windows detected my monitor and a default ( as it was before). Now under HKLM\Enum\Monitor my monitor is listed directly under monitor and not included under Default_Monitor as it was before. Have I solved my problem!!! I will have to wait and see if it holds. I'm still confused over all the stuff under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY though. Ham. "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... My settings are/have been 800x600 at 85hz and at that I am/was very happy - a nice clear, bright display. The default setting pushes it down to 60hz and its not so bright and a bit flickery. I have the latest WinMe driver for my card but it isn't WHQL signed - the previous driver was but was causing similar problems. The AOpen card is gone - kaput and thrown away. I can't help thinking that something else in the registry is sending wrong information. I wish I knew more about the workings but my knowledge is sparse. The stuff under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY is particularily confusing - whats all that Nvidia stuff doing there? Why so many entries? What's default and glide all about? Is there really a creator of the universe? Hey Ho! - Sigh! Ham. "Mart" wrote in message ... My *guess* is that you may just have to live with the default monitor driver. I seem to remember that in some of my (earlier) WinMe boxes, monitors were a problem. The pnp wouldn't always enumerate correctly. I had a particular LG monitor that in spite of the 'correct' WinMe driver, would eventually return to the default model - and I just lived with it. Which brings me back to my previous suggestion of turning down the resolution a notch or two. Confirm that the video driver is WinMe compatible - try the MS default if necessary or even a Win98 driver. As a matter of interest, apart from not attaining the desired settings, does the card/monitor give a reasonable display? What happens if you re-substitute the original AOpen card, does the correct monitor driver get detected AND hold as the only monitor? Mart "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... I have tried doing this and just tried again - the problem persists. Windows detects the Display Adapter drivers, installs and asks to reboot, then loads again and detects default monitors. Looking at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR, after having removed the Monitors from Device Manager, it is empty as it is under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor. After reboot under HKLM\Enum\MONITOR there is a sub folder labelled DEFAULT_MONITOR and within that folder there are two mo one labelled 0001 and containing info on my monitor (after I've updated the driver in Display Properties) and the other labelled PCI_VEN_1002&DEV_5D44&SUBSYS_9A291509&REV_01_01080 0 containing info on the remaining default monitor. With the Display Adapter removed the listing under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY is the same apart from the folders 0011 and 0012 which are gone and return after reboot. Ham. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Try this first - it should help clear the registry out a little. Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager Remove ALL Display Adapters Remove ALL Monitors Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers - hopefully curing your problem. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Mart" wrote in message ... Just a couple of thoughts, maybe your video card isn't capable of a higher refresh rate at whatever the screen/colour resolution that you are trying to attain. Try reducing the screen size by one or two settings and see if that helps. Mart "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I don't have access to another monitor. The monitor driver I have is from the manufacturer and is for Wimme. I tried deleting the .inf file but no help - windows detects new hardware and loads 2 default monitors, I update the driver of the main one and either more default monitors load at next reboot or display properties wont let me increase the refresh rate even though my monitor is named correctly in display properties. Ham "Mart" wrote in message ... ........ Booting into safe mode and deleting the monitors hasn't solved the problem. Odd, as your registry 'appears' to still show 'numerous' (12?) monitors enumerated. Just wonder if the re-boot is pulling an 'old' registry back somehow. Can you temporally substitute with another monitor until you get a 'stable' registry? Have a look in your Windows\inf\others folder for monitor driver .inf files and delete (or rename) them. Then let the plug'n'play redetect. Have you tried the (monitor) manufacturers web site for WinMe drivers? Mart "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... I have been having some ongoing problems with my monitor reseting to a lower refresh rate and extra default monitors loading. Booting into safe mode and deleting the monitors hasn't solved the problem. I did a search in Groups and found a suggestion to delete everything in the registry under monitor in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR, HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor and everything under display in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY. I tried this along with uninstalling and reinstalling the video card and monitor drivers but then I just kept getting default monitors loading and much the same problems. I'm thinking that there must be something else in the registry or somewhere else sending wrong information. I have a CTX monitor and an ATI Radeon 9200se card.(Previously I had an AOpen Nvidia based card). There are muliple listings in the registry under monitor and display. I would appreaciate any help from someone with more knowledge about the registry than myself. PS. I did backup the registry before making changes and, when they didn't help, restored it again. Below is the text from the exported registry files. TIA, Ham. following snipped to reduce bandwidth |
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Thanks Mart. I'll try a different driver and see if it helps - mine's a 4.3
which I only downloaded a short time ago. Now I see they have a 4.7 - I'll give that a try and failing that I will go back to the original one that came with the card. That had a few issues but wasn't giving me as much trouble as the 4.3 seems to be doing. Ham. "Mart" wrote in message ... Ham, have you had a look at the ATI site for drivers? http://www.atitech.ca/ Follow the 'Drivers & Software' tab prompts and you will find that there are 'issues' with the Radeon WinMe drivers, CATALYST 4.3 (and others?) being substituted. Might be worth a play with some of those on offer. I still think it's a video card issue rather than a monitor problem g Good luck Mart "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... Spoke too soon. It loaded two default monitors after it had been shut down for a while. Ham. "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... Well I've just done something that seems to have returned my display settings to how they were before. Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY the 0000 folder was empty: I made it the same as 0001. Then I removed the monitors from Device Manager in normal mode and chose Add New Hardware - Windows detected my monitor and a default ( as it was before). Now under HKLM\Enum\Monitor my monitor is listed directly under monitor and not included under Default_Monitor as it was before. Have I solved my problem!!! I will have to wait and see if it holds. I'm still confused over all the stuff under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY though. Ham. "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... My settings are/have been 800x600 at 85hz and at that I am/was very happy - a nice clear, bright display. The default setting pushes it down to 60hz and its not so bright and a bit flickery. I have the latest WinMe driver for my card but it isn't WHQL signed - the previous driver was but was causing similar problems. The AOpen card is gone - kaput and thrown away. I can't help thinking that something else in the registry is sending wrong information. I wish I knew more about the workings but my knowledge is sparse. The stuff under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY is particularily confusing - whats all that Nvidia stuff doing there? Why so many entries? What's default and glide all about? Is there really a creator of the universe? Hey Ho! - Sigh! Ham. "Mart" wrote in message ... My *guess* is that you may just have to live with the default monitor driver. I seem to remember that in some of my (earlier) WinMe boxes, monitors were a problem. The pnp wouldn't always enumerate correctly. I had a particular LG monitor that in spite of the 'correct' WinMe driver, would eventually return to the default model - and I just lived with it. Which brings me back to my previous suggestion of turning down the resolution a notch or two. Confirm that the video driver is WinMe compatible - try the MS default if necessary or even a Win98 driver. As a matter of interest, apart from not attaining the desired settings, does the card/monitor give a reasonable display? What happens if you re-substitute the original AOpen card, does the correct monitor driver get detected AND hold as the only monitor? Mart "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... I have tried doing this and just tried again - the problem persists. Windows detects the Display Adapter drivers, installs and asks to reboot, then loads again and detects default monitors. Looking at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR, after having removed the Monitors from Device Manager, it is empty as it is under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor. After reboot under HKLM\Enum\MONITOR there is a sub folder labelled DEFAULT_MONITOR and within that folder there are two mo one labelled 0001 and containing info on my monitor (after I've updated the driver in Display Properties) and the other labelled PCI_VEN_1002&DEV_5D44&SUBSYS_9A291509&REV_01_01080 0 containing info on the remaining default monitor. With the Display Adapter removed the listing under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY is the same apart from the folders 0011 and 0012 which are gone and return after reboot. Ham. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Try this first - it should help clear the registry out a little. Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager Remove ALL Display Adapters Remove ALL Monitors Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers - hopefully curing your problem. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Mart" wrote in message ... Just a couple of thoughts, maybe your video card isn't capable of a higher refresh rate at whatever the screen/colour resolution that you are trying to attain. Try reducing the screen size by one or two settings and see if that helps. Mart "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I don't have access to another monitor. The monitor driver I have is from the manufacturer and is for Wimme. I tried deleting the .inf file but no help - windows detects new hardware and loads 2 default monitors, I update the driver of the main one and either more default monitors load at next reboot or display properties wont let me increase the refresh rate even though my monitor is named correctly in display properties. Ham "Mart" wrote in message ... ........ Booting into safe mode and deleting the monitors hasn't solved the problem. Odd, as your registry 'appears' to still show 'numerous' (12?) monitors enumerated. Just wonder if the re-boot is pulling an 'old' registry back somehow. Can you temporally substitute with another monitor until you get a 'stable' registry? Have a look in your Windows\inf\others folder for monitor driver .inf files and delete (or rename) them. Then let the plug'n'play redetect. Have you tried the (monitor) manufacturers web site for WinMe drivers? Mart "Ham" hamilton_bailie @spamnothotmail.com wrote in message ... I have been having some ongoing problems with my monitor reseting to a lower refresh rate and extra default monitors loading. Booting into safe mode and deleting the monitors hasn't solved the problem. I did a search in Groups and found a suggestion to delete everything in the registry under monitor in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR, HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\Monitor and everything under display in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Class\DISPLAY. I tried this along with uninstalling and reinstalling the video card and monitor drivers but then I just kept getting default monitors loading and much the same problems. I'm thinking that there must be something else in the registry or somewhere else sending wrong information. I have a CTX monitor and an ATI Radeon 9200se card.(Previously I had an AOpen Nvidia based card). There are muliple listings in the registry under monitor and display. I would appreaciate any help from someone with more knowledge about the registry than myself. PS. I did backup the registry before making changes and, when they didn't help, restored it again. Below is the text from the exported registry files. TIA, Ham. following snipped to reduce bandwidth |
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