Clean install of W98 with upgrade disk?

Hi

I'd like to install W98, with a clean install - i.e. format the
hard-disk, then do a full install. Reason for this is that there's an
existing installation of ME, which is either a complete pile of guano
as an OS (as many people have said), or is just so overloaded with
registry entries/broken shortcuts/systray nonsense that it runs out of
resources before I even start using it. Or both. (NB if you're
running ME well, well done and good luck to you - on my PII300 with
128Mb and all that reg/systray rubbish, it just doesn't work for me!)

Here's what I've got:
- A W95 (nb 95!!!) Upgrade disk
- No disk for ME
- W98: either a full install 98SE disk or an upgrade (NB not update!)
98SE disk, which I'm going to buy on Ebay.

My question is: with a full format and re-install, what would the
98Upgrade CD ask for as evidence of a previous OS? Would the W95
Upgrade CD do the trick, or would I have to go back through the
generations to a "real" "non-upgrade" OS disk? (have I still got that
Win3.0 floppy anywhere? I don't think so...)
Or should I go for a full install 98SE disk rather than upgrade disk?

thanks for any advice

Seb

On 28 Feb 2006 02:54:12 -0800, wrote:

Hi

I'd like to install W98, with a clean install - i.e. format the
hard-disk, then do a full install. Reason for this is that there's an
existing installation of ME, which is either a complete pile of guano
as an OS (as many people have said), or is just so overloaded with
registry entries/broken shortcuts/systray nonsense that it runs out of
resources before I even start using it. Or both. (NB if you're
running ME well, well done and good luck to you - on my PII300 with
128Mb and all that reg/systray rubbish, it just doesn't work for me!)

Here's what I've got:
- A W95 (nb 95!!!) Upgrade disk
- No disk for ME
- W98: either a full install 98SE disk or an upgrade (NB not update!)
98SE disk, which I'm going to buy on Ebay.

My question is: with a full format and re-install, what would the
98Upgrade CD ask for as evidence of a previous OS? Would the W95
Upgrade CD do the trick, or would I have to go back through the
generations to a "real" "non-upgrade" OS disk? (have I still got that
Win3.0 floppy anywhere? I don't think so...)

In theory (at least - I've not needed to test it) any upgrade required a
qualifying previoUS FULL version.

Or should I go for a full install 98SE disk rather than upgrade disk?

absolutely.

I'm fairly certain that the 95 Upgrade disk will satisfy 98 Setup as to
qualifying media. Sorry, can't test it for you today, though.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

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Hi

I'd like to install W98, with a clean install - i.e. format the
hard-disk, then do a full install. Reason for this is that there's an
existing installation of ME, which is either a complete pile of guano
as an OS (as many people have said), or is just so overloaded with
registry entries/broken shortcuts/systray nonsense that it runs out of
resources before I even start using it. Or both. (NB if you're
running ME well, well done and good luck to you - on my PII300 with
128Mb and all that reg/systray rubbish, it just doesn't work for me!)

Here's what I've got:
- A W95 (nb 95!!!) Upgrade disk
- No disk for ME
- W98: either a full install 98SE disk or an upgrade (NB not update!)
98SE disk, which I'm going to buy on Ebay.

My question is: with a full format and re-install, what would the
98Upgrade CD ask for as evidence of a previous OS? Would the W95
Upgrade CD do the trick, or would I have to go back through the
generations to a "real" "non-upgrade" OS disk? (have I still got that
Win3.0 floppy anywhere? I don't think so...)
Or should I go for a full install 98SE disk rather than upgrade disk?

thanks for any advice

Seb

I believe Gary is right and as far as what to get, your choices may not be
that great so get what you can.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



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Hi

I'd like to install W98, with a clean install - i.e. format the
hard-disk, then do a full install. Reason for this is that there's an
existing installation of ME, which is either a complete pile of guano
as an OS (as many people have said), or is just so overloaded with
registry entries/broken shortcuts/systray nonsense that it runs out of
resources before I even start using it. Or both. (NB if you're
running ME well, well done and good luck to you - on my PII300 with
128Mb and all that reg/systray rubbish, it just doesn't work for me!)

Here's what I've got:
- A W95 (nb 95!!!) Upgrade disk
- No disk for ME
- W98: either a full install 98SE disk or an upgrade (NB not update!)
98SE disk, which I'm going to buy on Ebay.

My question is: with a full format and re-install, what would the
98Upgrade CD ask for as evidence of a previous OS? Would the W95
Upgrade CD do the trick, or would I have to go back through the
generations to a "real" "non-upgrade" OS disk? (have I still got that
Win3.0 floppy anywhere? I don't think so...)
Or should I go for a full install 98SE disk rather than upgrade disk?

thanks for any advice

Seb

By the way, I meant to include this just in case it might be helpful:

Here's some info about the various types of W98SE CDs:

RETAIL FULL INSTALL: This CD will either upgrade W95/98 to SE or you can
install it to a blank hard drive.

RETAIL UPGRADE INSTALL: This CD will either upgrade W95/98 to SE or you can
install it to a blank hard drive; however, when installing to a blank drive,
install will ask to see the qualifying system (i.e., W95) disk(s).

OEM FULL INSTALL. This SE CD is designed to be installed to a blank hard
drive; however, there is a good possibility that you can trick it into
upgrading. For info, go to:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/upgrade.html Be aware that if you buy
an OEM disk, it might be customized for installation on a particular
computer; however, this will probably be primarily with a used disk.

UPDATE CD: This CD will only update a functioning copy of W98 to W98SE.
When MS sold them, they were $20 and came with a ProductKey. Some venders
were selling them and advising customers to use the W98 ProductKey which may
or may not work--don't get stung. This outfit is selling them for $35:
http://www.micronetxp.net/Merchant2/...Category_Code=

RECOVERY CD: Some companies will brand an OEM CD and call it a recovery CD.
You should avoid these unless it is the exact recovery CD you are looking
for. Many recovery CDs will only install on the equipment they were
intended for.


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



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I believe Gary is right and as far as what to get, your choices may not be
that great so get what you can.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



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Hi

I'd like to install W98, with a clean install - i.e. format the
hard-disk, then do a full install. Reason for this is that there's an
existing installation of ME, which is either a complete pile of guano
as an OS (as many people have said), or is just so overloaded with
registry entries/broken shortcuts/systray nonsense that it runs out of
resources before I even start using it. Or both. (NB if you're
running ME well, well done and good luck to you - on my PII300 with
128Mb and all that reg/systray rubbish, it just doesn't work for me!)

Here's what I've got:
- A W95 (nb 95!!!) Upgrade disk
- No disk for ME
- W98: either a full install 98SE disk or an upgrade (NB not update!)
98SE disk, which I'm going to buy on Ebay.

My question is: with a full format and re-install, what would the
98Upgrade CD ask for as evidence of a previous OS? Would the W95
Upgrade CD do the trick, or would I have to go back through the
generations to a "real" "non-upgrade" OS disk? (have I still got that
Win3.0 floppy anywhere? I don't think so...)
Or should I go for a full install 98SE disk rather than upgrade disk?

thanks for any advice

Seb

Many thanks for your advice.

I've just bid for and won a 98SE full install disk on Ebay (I can just
read the legend "for PCs without Windows" on the CD in the photo, and
the seller has confirmed it's a full version), following your advice,
as it's good to have the full version - for just £5 more than the
upgrade.

thanks again


Seb