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reinstalling 98 from a computer that had 95 with a 98 upgrade
I have XP and have reinstalled the OS a few times. with
minimal help from Dell A friend of mine just took over a computer from someone that has never had the OS reinstalled. 6 years old. It is my understanding that it is good to do every once in a while is that correct? Anyway, how do I do it? She has the original 95 reinstall disk it came with, but I don't really know abouut getting to dos, the boot mode thing, etc... what do I do. Gateway emailed me instructioins, but that was for 98. they failed to remember that I have 95 with a 98 upgrade. Would I reinstall 98 and 95 the same way? (because I do need to do 95 first, right) Also, with XP, there were a few things I needed to do afterward, like install things like Java, Adobe, Media players, codec, WINDOWS UPDATES. How do I know the things that MUST be done after a reinstall. thank you so much. Anyone that answers this or emails me instructions would be greatly appreciated Eric |
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Badour once wrote...
RETAIL UPGRADE INSTALL: This CD will either upgrade W95/98 to SE or you can install it to a blank hard drive; however, when installing to a blank drive, install will ask to see the qualifying system (i.e., W95) disk(s). You want to do a FRESH Install? Are you pure Windows or OEM, such as Compaq? If you are OEM, then you can get back to factory condition by using their recovery CD, such as QuickRestore, which may contain proprietary drivers and add-ons. Otherwise... http://www.hexff.com/index.html How to Clean Install This first has it all, but.. (a) Perhaps don't do the 2.5 swap file thing, & (b) You may rather have multiple partitions, & (c) Attend it's warning: Have any non-Windows peripheral drivers available to install afterwards. Here... http://www.pchelpandconsulting.com/links/windows.html WinDrvExpert http://www.jermar.com/wdrvbck.htm WinDrvBckup free version Those two supposedly back up all currently installed drivers, such that they can be reinstalled. I never tried it but have seen a favorable report. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html Badour has one http://aumha.org/win4/a/clean.htm Aumha has one http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=250928 How to Reinstall Windows http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=193902 How to Reinstall Windows into a new folder "Setup.txt", located in the same folder as "Setup.exe", either on CD or hard drive. This instructs how to run it from a folder on the hard drive, but "hexff" says it better. http://support.microsoft.com/default...71&Product=w98 "SU" Error Message List for Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows Me Setup Get a Startup Diskette from http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the Startup Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will say which letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter higher than normal.) Here is what I know of those Installation CD's. The full list of capabilities of each type of CD is as follows, says Harper. Each requires a valid Product key. "Proof" means it must see you had a prior version. So, if it isn't sitting there, expect to insert a floppy or earlier CD. FULL VERSION: Will perform either clean install or upgrade of existing OS. Does not ask for proof of ownership of an earlier version. UPGRADE VERSION: Will perform either clean install or upgrade of existing OS. Will ask for proof of ownership of an earlier version if one is not installed. WIN98 SE UPDATES: Will only install if Windows 98 is present on the hard drive. Cannot be used for a clean install at all. OEM VERSION: Only installs on a clean, fresh-formatted hard drive. May be customized to include or omit components that would be found/not found on a retail CD. Be sure of your ProductKey... HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion ProductKey "12345-12345-12345-12345-12345" (1) "START, Run, RegEdit" (2) Click plus signs beginning at "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE", & ending with "Windows". (3) Click "CurrentVersion" in the left pane under "Windows". (4) Look in right pane for ProductKey. That is the one that was used to install your current Windows. Jot it down, as it may work if different from the one on your Windows 98 Manual or CD case. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "eric0668" wrote in message ... | I have XP and have reinstalled the OS a few times. with | minimal help from Dell | | A friend of mine just took over a computer from someone | that has never had the OS reinstalled. 6 years old. It | is my understanding that it is good to do every once in a | while is that correct? | | Anyway, how do I do it? She has the original 95 | reinstall disk it came with, but I don't really know | abouut getting to dos, the boot mode thing, etc... what | do I do. Gateway emailed me instructioins, but that was | for 98. they failed to remember that I have 95 with a 98 | upgrade. Would I reinstall 98 and 95 the same way? | (because I do need to do 95 first, right) | | Also, with XP, there were a few things I needed to do | afterward, like install things like Java, Adobe, Media | players, codec, WINDOWS UPDATES. How do I know the | things that MUST be done after a reinstall. | | thank you so much. Anyone that answers this or emails | me instructions would be greatly appreciated | | Eric |
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WOW. Very confusing.
How do I know if I have pure windows OR OEM. Whats the difference. No it is not Compaq. It is Gateway, and I have reinstall 98 and 95 disks, but not a system restore disk. I don't mean to ask you to baby me or tell me how to read it, but thats exactly what I am going to do. I am a bit overwhelmed by what you wrote. seems like a lot to do. How would you break it down Thank you oh so much Eric -----Original Message----- Badour once wrote... RETAIL UPGRADE INSTALL: This CD will either upgrade W95/98 to SE or you can install it to a blank hard drive; however, when installing to a blank drive, install will ask to see the qualifying system (i.e., W95) disk(s). You want to do a FRESH Install? Are you pure Windows or OEM, such as Compaq? If you are OEM, then you can get back to factory condition by using their recovery CD, such as QuickRestore, which may contain proprietary drivers and add-ons. Otherwise... http://www.hexff.com/index.html How to Clean Install This first has it all, but.. (a) Perhaps don't do the 2.5 swap file thing, & (b) You may rather have multiple partitions, & (c) Attend it's warning: Have any non-Windows peripheral drivers available to install afterwards. Here... http://www.pchelpandconsulting.com/links/windows.html WinDrvExpert http://www.jermar.com/wdrvbck.htm WinDrvBckup free version Those two supposedly back up all currently installed drivers, such that they can be reinstalled. I never tried it but have seen a favorable report. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html Badour has one http://aumha.org/win4/a/clean.htm Aumha has one http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=250928 How to Reinstall Windows http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=193902 How to Reinstall Windows into a new folder "Setup.txt", located in the same folder as "Setup.exe", either on CD or hard drive. This instructs how to run it from a folder on the hard drive, but "hexff" says it better. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;129971&Product=w98 "SU" Error Message List for Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows Me Setup Get a Startup Diskette from http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the Startup Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will say which letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter higher than normal.) Here is what I know of those Installation CD's. The full list of capabilities of each type of CD is as follows, says Harper. Each requires a valid Product key. "Proof" means it must see you had a prior version. So, if it isn't sitting there, expect to insert a floppy or earlier CD. FULL VERSION: Will perform either clean install or upgrade of existing OS. Does not ask for proof of ownership of an earlier version. UPGRADE VERSION: Will perform either clean install or upgrade of existing OS. Will ask for proof of ownership of an earlier version if one is not installed. WIN98 SE UPDATES: Will only install if Windows 98 is present on the hard drive. Cannot be used for a clean install at all. OEM VERSION: Only installs on a clean, fresh-formatted hard drive. May be customized to include or omit components that would be found/not found on a retail CD. Be sure of your ProductKey... HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVers ion ProductKey "12345-12345-12345-12345-12345" (1) "START, Run, RegEdit" (2) Click plus signs beginning at "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE", & ending with "Windows". (3) Click "CurrentVersion" in the left pane under "Windows". (4) Look in right pane for ProductKey. That is the one that was used to install your current Windows. Jot it down, as it may work if different from the one on your Windows 98 Manual or CD case. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "eric0668" wrote in message ... | I have XP and have reinstalled the OS a few times. with | minimal help from Dell | | A friend of mine just took over a computer from someone | that has never had the OS reinstalled. 6 years old. It | is my understanding that it is good to do every once in a | while is that correct? | | Anyway, how do I do it? She has the original 95 | reinstall disk it came with, but I don't really know | abouut getting to dos, the boot mode thing, etc... what | do I do. Gateway emailed me instructioins, but that was | for 98. they failed to remember that I have 95 with a 98 | upgrade. Would I reinstall 98 and 95 the same way? | (because I do need to do 95 first, right) | | Also, with XP, there were a few things I needed to do | afterward, like install things like Java, Adobe, Media | players, codec, WINDOWS UPDATES. How do I know the | things that MUST be done after a reinstall. | | thank you so much. Anyone that answers this or emails | me instructions would be greatly appreciated | | Eric . |
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If your upgrade is from MS, you can just install 98 directly from the
upgrade. It will ask for your previous version disk just to verify that you had it. It will be cleaner that way. You will have to install a whole bunch of upgrades. First thing you will need will be internet connectivity. If the PC has a network card, it will need drivers probably. Then you'll need a browser. I suggest Mozilla Firefox. The download is only 5Mb compared to IE6 at 18+ Meg! If you can download it on another machine and transfer it, you won't have to mess with IE3 which loaded on W98. "eric0668" wrote in message ... I have XP and have reinstalled the OS a few times. with minimal help from Dell A friend of mine just took over a computer from someone that has never had the OS reinstalled. 6 years old. It is my understanding that it is good to do every once in a while is that correct? Anyway, how do I do it? She has the original 95 reinstall disk it came with, but I don't really know abouut getting to dos, the boot mode thing, etc... what do I do. Gateway emailed me instructioins, but that was for 98. they failed to remember that I have 95 with a 98 upgrade. Would I reinstall 98 and 95 the same way? (because I do need to do 95 first, right) Also, with XP, there were a few things I needed to do afterward, like install things like Java, Adobe, Media players, codec, WINDOWS UPDATES. How do I know the things that MUST be done after a reinstall. thank you so much. Anyone that answers this or emails me instructions would be greatly appreciated Eric |
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There's no such thing as "reinstall 98 and 95 disks", unless perhaps they
are disk that Gateway prepared specially for that machine.. What exactly do the CDs say on the label? -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "eric0668" wrote in message ... WOW. Very confusing. How do I know if I have pure windows OR OEM. Whats the difference. No it is not Compaq. It is Gateway, and I have reinstall 98 and 95 disks, but not a system restore disk. I don't mean to ask you to baby me or tell me how to read it, but thats exactly what I am going to do. I am a bit overwhelmed by what you wrote. seems like a lot to do. How would you break it down Thank you oh so much Eric |
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As Richards said, post precisely what is on your label. He will compare
it to what Richards wrote (in my earlier quote) or to the full panoply of what Badour wrote (below). After that, read through some of the URLs I posted, & come back with a plan & specific questions. If you have a functioning system, it could be wise to make a full system backup of it first, as one never knows. Would you like my list of full system backup apps? RETAIL FULL INSTALL: This CD will either upgrade W95/98 to SE or you can install it to a blank hard drive. RETAIL UPGRADE INSTALL: This CD will either upgrade W95/98 to SE or you can install it to a blank hard drive; however, when installing to a blank drive, install will ask to see the qualifying system (i.e., W95) disk(s). OEM FULL INSTALL. This SE CD is designed to be installed to a blank hard drive; however, there is a possibility that you can trick it into upgrading. For info, go to: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/upgrade.html Be aware that if you buy an OEM disk, it might be customized for installation on a particular computer; however, this will probably be primarily with a used disk. UPDATE CD: This CD will only update a functioning copy of W98 to W98SE. When MS sold them, they were $20 and came with a ProductKey. Some venders were selling them and advising customers to use the W98 ProductKey which may or may not work--don't get stung. RECOVERY CD: Some companies will brand an OEM CD and call it a recovery CD. You should avoid these unless it is the exact recovery CD you are looking for. Many recovery CDs will only install on the equipment they were intended for. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "eric0668" wrote in message ... | WOW. Very confusing. | | How do I know if I have pure windows OR OEM. Whats the | difference. No it is not Compaq. It is Gateway, and I | have reinstall 98 and 95 disks, but not a system restore | disk. | | I don't mean to ask you to baby me or tell me how to read | it, but thats exactly what I am going to do. | | I am a bit overwhelmed by what you wrote. seems like a | lot to do. How would you break it down | | Thank you oh so much | Eric | -----Original Message----- | Badour once wrote... | RETAIL UPGRADE INSTALL: This CD will either upgrade | W95/98 to SE or you | can install it to a blank hard drive; however, when | installing to a | blank drive, install will ask to see the qualifying | system (i.e., W95) | disk(s). | | | You want to do a FRESH Install? Are you pure Windows or | OEM, such as | Compaq? If you are OEM, then you can get back to factory | condition by | using their recovery CD, such as QuickRestore, which may | contain | proprietary drivers and add-ons. Otherwise... | | http://www.hexff.com/index.html How to Clean Install | This first has it all, but.. | (a) Perhaps don't do the 2.5 swap file thing, & | (b) You may rather have multiple partitions, & | (c) Attend it's warning: Have any non-Windows peripheral | drivers | available to install afterwards. Here... | http://www.pchelpandconsulting.com/links/windows.html | WinDrvExpert | http://www.jermar.com/wdrvbck.htm WinDrvBckup free | version | Those two supposedly back up all currently installed | drivers, such that | they can be reinstalled. I never tried it but have seen | a favorable | report. | | http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html | Badour has one | http://aumha.org/win4/a/clean.htm Aumha has one | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=250928 How to | Reinstall Windows | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=193902 | How to Reinstall Windows into a new folder | | "Setup.txt", located in the same folder as "Setup.exe", | either on CD or | hard drive. This instructs how to run it from a folder | on the hard | drive, but "hexff" says it better. | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- | us;129971&Product=w98 | "SU" Error Message List for Windows 95, Windows 98, and | Windows Me Setup | | Get a Startup Diskette from | http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one | from "Control | Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the | Startup | Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will | say which | letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter | higher than | normal.) | | Here is what I know of those Installation CD's. The full | list of | capabilities of each type of CD is as follows, says | Harper. Each | requires a valid Product key. "Proof" means it must see | you had a prior | version. So, if it isn't sitting there, expect to insert | a floppy or | earlier CD. | | FULL VERSION: Will perform either clean install or | upgrade of existing | OS. Does not ask for proof of ownership of an earlier | version. | | UPGRADE VERSION: Will perform either clean install or | upgrade of | existing OS. Will ask for proof of ownership of an | earlier version if | one is not installed. | | WIN98 SE UPDATES: Will only install if Windows 98 is | present on the hard | drive. Cannot be used for a clean install at all. | | OEM VERSION: Only installs on a clean, fresh-formatted | hard drive. May | be customized to include or omit components that would | be found/not | found on a retail CD. | | Be sure of your ProductKey... | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVers | ion | ProductKey "12345-12345-12345-12345-12345" | | (1) "START, Run, RegEdit" | (2) Click plus signs beginning at "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE", | & ending with | "Windows". | (3) Click "CurrentVersion" in the left pane | under "Windows". | (4) Look in right pane for ProductKey. | | That is the one that was used to install your current | Windows. Jot it | down, as it may work if different from the one on your | Windows 98 Manual | or CD case. | | | -- | Thanks or Good Luck, | There may be humor in this post, and, | Naturally, you will not sue, | should things get worse after this, | PCR | | "eric0668" wrote | in message | ... | | I have XP and have reinstalled the OS a few times. with | | minimal help from Dell | | | | A friend of mine just took over a computer from someone | | that has never had the OS reinstalled. 6 years old. It | | is my understanding that it is good to do every once | in a | | while is that correct? | | | | Anyway, how do I do it? She has the original 95 | | reinstall disk it came with, but I don't really know | | abouut getting to dos, the boot mode thing, etc... what | | do I do. Gateway emailed me instructioins, but that | was | | for 98. they failed to remember that I have 95 with a | 98 | | upgrade. Would I reinstall 98 and 95 the same way? | | (because I do need to do 95 first, right) | | | | Also, with XP, there were a few things I needed to do | | afterward, like install things like Java, Adobe, Media | | players, codec, WINDOWS UPDATES. How do I know the | | things that MUST be done after a reinstall. | | | | thank you so much. Anyone that answers this or emails | | me instructions would be greatly appreciated | | | | Eric | | | . | |
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