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Old December 21st 06, 10:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ian H
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Been spending time chasing down bsod's and appropiate hex error msgs.
Have used KB but with no luck relating to 4 of the msgs. I also
know of 3 other 'good' sites, but still cant find ones I need.
Anyone know of a 'good' site with 'Fatal Execeptions' as only and
primary concern; need to pinpoint a problem.
(have googled)

Ian H


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Old December 22nd 06, 05:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB
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"Ian H" wrote in message
...
| Been spending time chasing down bsod's and appropiate hex error msgs.
| Have used KB but with no luck relating to 4 of the msgs. I also
| know of 3 other 'good' sites, but still cant find ones I need.
| Anyone know of a 'good' site with 'Fatal Execeptions' as only and
| primary concern; need to pinpoint a problem.
| (have googled)
|
| Ian H
|
|

How about a few hints of what the errors might be... little easier to point
the laser...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
BLOG http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real
world"

"Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
_______________


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Old December 22nd 06, 09:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ian H
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First up, I'd rather do it myself, but thanks for the offer, here are some.

1)OD 0028:C024244E in VXD VMM (0F) + 0000044E

2)0E 0028:C0006AE1 in VXD VMM (01) + 00005AE

3)0D 00E8:0000726D

4)0E 0028:C0006AE1 in VXD VMM (01) + 00005AE1

I have sorted out other errors on the computer in question, (overheat)
and I feel that maybe the cpu just cant continue anymore. (due to prior
overheat)
CPU is amd K6-2 series.

Ian H
"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...



"Ian H" wrote in message
...
| Been spending time chasing down bsod's and appropiate hex error msgs.
| Have used KB but with no luck relating to 4 of the msgs. I also
| know of 3 other 'good' sites, but still cant find ones I need.
| Anyone know of a 'good' site with 'Fatal Execeptions' as only and
| primary concern; need to pinpoint a problem.
| (have googled)
|
| Ian H
|
|

How about a few hints of what the errors might be... little easier to

point
the laser...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
BLOG http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real
world"

"Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as

if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
_______________




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Old December 22nd 06, 02:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Haggis
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"Ian H" wrote in message
...
First up, I'd rather do it myself, but thanks for the offer, here are
some.

1)OD 0028:C024244E in VXD VMM (0F) + 0000044E

2)0E 0028:C0006AE1 in VXD VMM (01) + 00005AE

3)0D 00E8:0000726D

4)0E 0028:C0006AE1 in VXD VMM (01) + 00005AE1

I have sorted out other errors on the computer in question, (overheat)
and I feel that maybe the cpu just cant continue anymore. (due to prior
overheat)
CPU is amd K6-2 series.

Ian H
"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...



"Ian H" wrote in message
...
| Been spending time chasing down bsod's and appropiate hex error msgs.
| Have used KB but with no luck relating to 4 of the msgs. I also
| know of 3 other 'good' sites, but still cant find ones I need.
| Anyone know of a 'good' site with 'Fatal Execeptions' as only and
| primary concern; need to pinpoint a problem.
| (have googled)
|
| Ian H
|
|

How about a few hints of what the errors might be... little easier to

point
the laser...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
BLOG http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real
world"

"Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as

if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
_______________





http://www.helpwithwindows.com/techf...0e-errors.html

have a look near the bottom of the page :


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Old December 22nd 06, 10:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB
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"Ian H" wrote in message
...
| First up, I'd rather do it myself, but thanks for the offer, here are
some.
|
| 1)OD 0028:C024244E in VXD VMM (0F) + 0000044E
|
| 2)0E 0028:C0006AE1 in VXD VMM (01) + 00005AE
|
| 3)0D 00E8:0000726D
|
| 4)0E 0028:C0006AE1 in VXD VMM (01) + 00005AE1
|
| I have sorted out other errors on the computer in question, (overheat)
| and I feel that maybe the cpu just cant continue anymore. (due to prior
| overheat)
| CPU is amd K6-2 series.
|
| Ian H

Oh boy, the K62 NEVER was known as being able to withstand overheating..
hot enough to fry an egg on anyway or your finger if you were dumb enough to
try... required the most extensive cooling WITHOUT over-clocking... which
was never recommended by anyone who had bothered to check the dang things
properly...
During that period [ my business - Custom Computer Services] I replaced
EVERY overheated K62 if I could, key word is IF.
Most of the time, it had already fried the mother board when the voltage
surged across the board or it shorted internally.. forget replacing the bios
chip, the capacitors and onboard chips usually also got overstressed..
IF the board is still atempting to function, junk the processor
immediately.. IT WILL FAIL SHORTLY.. electro migration, electro erosion,
heat damage, and other such, has ALREADY occurred on the processor... the
clock is rapidly counting down to complete failure...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
BLOG http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real
world"

"Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
_______________

| "MEB" meb@not wrote in message
| ...
|
|
|
| "Ian H" wrote in message
| ...
| | Been spending time chasing down bsod's and appropiate hex error msgs.
| | Have used KB but with no luck relating to 4 of the msgs. I also
| | know of 3 other 'good' sites, but still cant find ones I need.
| | Anyone know of a 'good' site with 'Fatal Execeptions' as only and
| | primary concern; need to pinpoint a problem.
| | (have googled)
| |
| | Ian H
| |
| |
|
| How about a few hints of what the errors might be... little easier to
| point
| the laser...
|
| --
| MEB
|
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
| BLOG http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real
| world"
|
| "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
| Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as
| if
| nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
| Or to put it another way:
| Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
| but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
| _______________
|
|
|
|


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Old December 23rd 06, 01:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ian H
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Oh boy, the K62 NEVER was known as being able to withstand overheating..
hot enough to fry an egg on anyway or your finger if you were dumb enough

to
try... required the most extensive cooling WITHOUT over-clocking... which
was never recommended by anyone who had bothered to check the dang things
properly...
During that period [ my business - Custom Computer Services] I

replaced
EVERY overheated K62 if I could, key word is IF.
Most of the time, it had already fried the mother board when the voltage
surged across the board or it shorted internally.. forget replacing the

bios
chip, the capacitors and onboard chips usually also got overstressed..
IF the board is still atempting to function, junk the processor
immediately.. IT WILL FAIL SHORTLY.. electro migration, electro erosion,
heat damage, and other such, has ALREADY occurred on the processor... the
clock is rapidly counting down to complete failure...

--
MEB


Yes, you are probably correct, but I just thought I would search for the
errors I mentioned as they have shown up since I replaced the cpu fan
on the computer last week.

Ian H


  #7  
Old December 23rd 06, 01:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB
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"Ian H" wrote in message
...
|
| Oh boy, the K62 NEVER was known as being able to withstand
overheating..
| hot enough to fry an egg on anyway or your finger if you were dumb
enough
| to
| try... required the most extensive cooling WITHOUT over-clocking...
which
| was never recommended by anyone who had bothered to check the dang
things
| properly...
| During that period [ my business - Custom Computer Services] I
| replaced
| EVERY overheated K62 if I could, key word is IF.
| Most of the time, it had already fried the mother board when the voltage
| surged across the board or it shorted internally.. forget replacing the
| bios
| chip, the capacitors and onboard chips usually also got overstressed..
| IF the board is still atempting to function, junk the processor
| immediately.. IT WILL FAIL SHORTLY.. electro migration, electro erosion,
| heat damage, and other such, has ALREADY occurred on the processor...
the
| clock is rapidly counting down to complete failure...
|
| --
| MEB
|
| Yes, you are probably correct, but I just thought I would search for the
| errors I mentioned as they have shown up since I replaced the cpu fan
| on the computer last week.
|
| Ian H
|
|

WHAT, your running this computer,,,,,,,, and what finally prompted you to
change the fan,,, errors?
Did you put "Arctic Silver" or some thermal transfer compound between the
fan and CPU?
Did you notice a blue surface on the CPU top?
If you removed the CPU, did you ensure you didn't bend a pin or fail to
reseat it properly?

What is happening is likely errant code manipulation on the CPU,, you may
have damaged transistors, micro circuitry that is likely cross jumping,,,
possible CPU coding burn,, :

The worse case scenario is that when this CPU goes it will take out
EVERYTHING, including your video card, your hard drive, and anything else in
the computer... they don't like having 12 volts run through 5 volt circuits,
nothing likes a dead short,, the voltage regulators are likely wildly
fluctuating.. the access is being corrupted, the writes impossible or
wrong,,,

But good luck...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
BLOG http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real
world"

"Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
_______________


  #8  
Old December 23rd 06, 02:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ian H
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Posts: 78
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WHAT, your running this computer,,,,,,,, and what finally prompted you to
change the fan,,, errors?
Did you put "Arctic Silver" or some thermal transfer compound between the
fan and CPU?
Did you notice a blue surface on the CPU top?
If you removed the CPU, did you ensure you didn't bend a pin or fail to
reseat it properly?

What is happening is likely errant code manipulation on the CPU,, you may
have damaged transistors, micro circuitry that is likely cross jumping,,,
possible CPU coding burn,, :

The worse case scenario is that when this CPU goes it will take out
EVERYTHING, including your video card, your hard drive, and anything else

in
the computer... they don't like having 12 volts run through 5 volt

circuits,
nothing likes a dead short,, the voltage regulators are likely wildly
fluctuating.. the access is being corrupted, the writes impossible or
wrong,,,

But good luck...

--
MEB


It is not my computer, it is a friends. It was giving bsod's 7 days ago and
she asked me to check it. I copied the *error mgs* and checked out
some sites on my computer, coming up with the site that haggis pointed
out.
After realising it could be overheating I went back and looked inside, only
to find the fan struggling to spin. (slight bearing noise, not audible with
cover
on).
I purchased a fan for her that day and installed it. (it screws onto the
heat
sink so no goo needed.)
Computer seemed to run fine but has been tossing out bsod's by the
bucket load in the last few days, 4 of them being prominent, they are the
ones I posted here to you.
I will try and find a shop that still has a similar cpu, or something her
mobo
can handle, but dont hold out much hope this close to xmas.
I will tell her not to use it til the problem is sorted.

Ian H


  #9  
Old December 23rd 06, 03:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
MEB
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"Ian H" wrote in message
...
| WHAT, your running this computer,,,,,,,, and what finally prompted you
to
| change the fan,,, errors?
| Did you put "Arctic Silver" or some thermal transfer compound between
the
| fan and CPU?
| Did you notice a blue surface on the CPU top?
| If you removed the CPU, did you ensure you didn't bend a pin or fail to
| reseat it properly?
|
| What is happening is likely errant code manipulation on the CPU,, you
may
| have damaged transistors, micro circuitry that is likely cross
jumping,,,
| possible CPU coding burn,, :
|
| The worse case scenario is that when this CPU goes it will take out
| EVERYTHING, including your video card, your hard drive, and anything
else
| in
| the computer... they don't like having 12 volts run through 5 volt
| circuits,
| nothing likes a dead short,, the voltage regulators are likely wildly
| fluctuating.. the access is being corrupted, the writes impossible or
| wrong,,,
|
| But good luck...
|
| --
| MEB
|
| It is not my computer, it is a friends. It was giving bsod's 7 days ago
and
| she asked me to check it. I copied the *error mgs* and checked out
| some sites on my computer, coming up with the site that haggis pointed
| out.
| After realising it could be overheating I went back and looked inside,
only
| to find the fan struggling to spin. (slight bearing noise, not audible
with
| cover
| on).
| I purchased a fan for her that day and installed it. (it screws onto the
| heat
| sink so no goo needed.)
| Computer seemed to run fine but has been tossing out bsod's by the
| bucket load in the last few days, 4 of them being prominent, they are the
| ones I posted here to you.
| I will try and find a shop that still has a similar cpu, or something her
| mobo
| can handle, but dont hold out much hope this close to xmas.
| I will tell her not to use it til the problem is sorted.
|
| Ian H
|
|

Okay, she's in your hands..

Merry Christmas.. and be careful on New Years...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/
BLOG http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real
world"

"Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth.
Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
Morpheus can offer you the two pills;
but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
_______________


  #10  
Old December 23rd 06, 03:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Gary S. Terhune
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Are you getting power for the fan from a connector on the motherboard? Or is
it via direct connection from the power supply? If the former, you might try
the latter. Will probably just require the right splitter to insert into the
harness.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Ian H" wrote in message
...
WHAT, your running this computer,,,,,,,, and what finally prompted you

to
change the fan,,, errors?
Did you put "Arctic Silver" or some thermal transfer compound between

the
fan and CPU?
Did you notice a blue surface on the CPU top?
If you removed the CPU, did you ensure you didn't bend a pin or fail to
reseat it properly?

What is happening is likely errant code manipulation on the CPU,, you

may
have damaged transistors, micro circuitry that is likely cross

jumping,,,
possible CPU coding burn,, :

The worse case scenario is that when this CPU goes it will take out
EVERYTHING, including your video card, your hard drive, and anything

else
in
the computer... they don't like having 12 volts run through 5 volt

circuits,
nothing likes a dead short,, the voltage regulators are likely wildly
fluctuating.. the access is being corrupted, the writes impossible or
wrong,,,

But good luck...

--
MEB


It is not my computer, it is a friends. It was giving bsod's 7 days ago

and
she asked me to check it. I copied the *error mgs* and checked out
some sites on my computer, coming up with the site that haggis pointed
out.
After realising it could be overheating I went back and looked inside,

only
to find the fan struggling to spin. (slight bearing noise, not audible

with
cover
on).
I purchased a fan for her that day and installed it. (it screws onto the
heat
sink so no goo needed.)
Computer seemed to run fine but has been tossing out bsod's by the
bucket load in the last few days, 4 of them being prominent, they are the
ones I posted here to you.
I will try and find a shop that still has a similar cpu, or something her
mobo
can handle, but dont hold out much hope this close to xmas.
I will tell her not to use it til the problem is sorted.

Ian H




 




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