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Microsoft has removed 500+ groups, including 21 Windows-98 groups
I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed
approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98. Those 21 groups a --------------------- microsoft.public.il.hebrew.win98 microsoft.public.jp.win98 microsoft.public.kr.windows98.qna microsoft.public.nl.windows98 microsoft.public.win98.comm.dun microsoft.public.win98.comm.modem microsoft.public.win98.display.general microsoft.public.win98.display.multi_monitor microsoft.public.win98.fat32 microsoft.public.win98.internet.netmeeting microsoft.public.win98.msinfo32 microsoft.public.win98.multimedia microsoft.public.win98.multimedia.directx5 microsoft.public.win98.power_mgmt microsoft.public.win98.pptp microsoft.public.win98.pws_4 microsoft.public.win98.scanreg microsoft.public.win98.setup.win31 microsoft.public.win98.sys_file_check microsoft.public.win98.taskscheduler microsoft.public.win98.webtv ---------------------- I belive that at this point, if you use microsoft's server (HTTP or NNTP) to read/write to those groups, that as of this point you can no longer do so. Those groups are still being propagated by the wider usenet community as if nothing happened. This may change if a certain dick-wad issues control messages that are obeyed by independent server operators (it's not clear that they will). I can post the entire list if requested. And note - as of this point, Microsoft has still not created any Windows-7 usenet group on it's server... |
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Microsoft has removed 500+ groups, including 21 Windows-98 groups
On 12/10/2009 08:28 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98. Those 21 groups a --------------------- microsoft.public.il.hebrew.win98 microsoft.public.jp.win98 microsoft.public.kr.windows98.qna microsoft.public.nl.windows98 microsoft.public.win98.comm.dun microsoft.public.win98.comm.modem microsoft.public.win98.display.general microsoft.public.win98.display.multi_monitor microsoft.public.win98.fat32 microsoft.public.win98.internet.netmeeting microsoft.public.win98.msinfo32 microsoft.public.win98.multimedia microsoft.public.win98.multimedia.directx5 microsoft.public.win98.power_mgmt microsoft.public.win98.pptp microsoft.public.win98.pws_4 microsoft.public.win98.scanreg microsoft.public.win98.setup.win31 microsoft.public.win98.sys_file_check microsoft.public.win98.taskscheduler microsoft.public.win98.webtv ---------------------- I belive that at this point, if you use microsoft's server (HTTP or NNTP) to read/write to those groups, that as of this point you can no longer do so. Those groups are still being propagated by the wider usenet community as if nothing happened. This may change if a certain dick-wad issues control messages that are obeyed by independent server operators (it's not clear that they will). I can post the entire list if requested. And note - as of this point, Microsoft has still not created any Windows-7 usenet group on it's server... Microsoft has no intention of opening its Win7 or later OSs and applications to Usenet. It does supply forums [as these were originally] and other communities via direct access. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |
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Microsoft has removed 500+ groups, including 21 Windows-98 groups
In message , MEB
writes: On 12/10/2009 08:28 PM, 98 Guy wrote: I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98. [complete list repost] Out of interest, does anyone (obviously outside the MS server) have a feel for what the traffic level was on these 'groups? Microsoft has no intention of opening its Win7 or later OSs and applications to Usenet. It does supply forums [as these were originally] and other communities via direct access. No, because they can't control them; they've never really felt at home with usenet, one gets the impression from some people. (This may not actually be the case.) Nothing to stop anyone else setting them up - I'll just look, for the servers I use: alt.windows7.general it.comp.os.win.windows7 microsoft.public.it.windows7 (sounds suspiciously like ...!) and probably some others (I didn't check for win.7, windows.7, win7, win-7 ...) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** .... on Thursdays on BBC Two, the former BBC2. (John Peel in "Radio Times", 1-7 May 1999.) |
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Microsoft has removed 500+ groups, including 21 Windows-98 groups
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
In message , MEB writes: On 12/10/2009 08:28 PM, 98 Guy wrote: I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98. [complete list repost] Out of interest, does anyone (obviously outside the MS server) have a feel for what the traffic level was on these 'groups? Not much of one. Many of them are for quite obsolete products, and a LOT of them were non-English language groups. The entire list was posted to news.admin.misc. I was subscribed to microsoft.public.win98.fat32, there were a few posts in that group just last week. Microsoft has no intention of opening its Win7 or later OSs and applications to Usenet. AFAIK, they haven't actually said that, but their actions certainly bear it out. -- Tim Slattery http://members.cox.net/slatteryt |
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Microsoft has removed 500+ groups, including 21 Windows-98 groups
On 12/11/2009 08:58 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , MEB writes: On 12/10/2009 08:28 PM, 98 Guy wrote: I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98. [complete list repost] Out of interest, does anyone (obviously outside the MS server) have a feel for what the traffic level was on these 'groups? Not much of one. Many of them are for quite obsolete products, and a LOT of them were non-English language groups. The entire list was posted to news.admin.misc. I was subscribed to microsoft.public.win98.fat32, there were a few posts in that group just last week. Microsoft has no intention of opening its Win7 or later OSs and applications to Usenet. AFAIK, they haven't actually said that, but their actions certainly bear it out. Once again you are correct and what I posted was too limiting and too direct. As you indicate, I haven't seen a direct statement [press release or otherwise] *from Microsoft* regarding Win7 Usenet groups; relying more upon prior activities that the groups were generally created during beta activities previously, or directly after RTM, AND I never received any notice from Microsoft regarding Support offered via Usenet accessible *public* groups. The secondary hearsay "from those in the know" seems to indicate there will be none, or at least English versions. Having just refreshed the list, I see only 14 groups supposedly left in ..win98, and no win7 or windows7 Microsoft DID create Win7 groups in its direct access communities [TechNet, others]. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |
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Microsoft has removed 500+ groups, including 21 Windows-98 gro
I doubt this group will close for a while because it still seems to get a
fair amount of posts. "Tim Slattery" wrote: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote: In message , MEB writes: On 12/10/2009 08:28 PM, 98 Guy wrote: I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98. [complete list repost] Out of interest, does anyone (obviously outside the MS server) have a feel for what the traffic level was on these 'groups? Not much of one. Many of them are for quite obsolete products, and a LOT of them were non-English language groups. The entire list was posted to news.admin.misc. I was subscribed to microsoft.public.win98.fat32, there were a few posts in that group just last week. Microsoft has no intention of opening its Win7 or later OSs and applications to Usenet. AFAIK, they haven't actually said that, but their actions certainly bear it out. -- Tim Slattery http://members.cox.net/slatteryt . |
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Microsoft has removed 500+ groups, including 21 Windows-98 groups
"MEB" wrote in message ... Microsoft has no intention of opening its Win7 or later OSs and applications to Usenet. It does supply forums [as these were originally] and other communities via direct access. Who cares, Usenet News group alt.windows7.general is up and running with "Usenetters" giving valued advice (including some MVP) |
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Microsoft has removed 500+ groups, including 21 Windows-98 groups
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:28:38 -0500, 98 Guy put finger to
keyboard and composed: I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98. If the end result is that all the English language Win98 traffic is consolidated into one group, then this will be a good thing, IMO. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Microsoft has removed 500+ groups, including 21 Windows-98 groups
Franc Zabkar wrote:
I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98. If the end result is that all the English language Win98 traffic is consolidated into one group, then this will be a good thing, IMO. There are 22 Win98-specific newsgroups on the MS newsserver, 14 of them are English-language newsgroups. There were 43 of them on 14 Feb-07; 32 of them were English-language newsgroups. Not too shabby for an OS that hasn't been supported since July 2006. |
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Microsoft has removed 500+ groups, including 21 Windows-98 groups
Franc Zabkar wrote:
I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98. If the end result is that all the English language Win98 traffic is consolidated into one group, then this will be a good thing, IMO. There are 22 Win98-specific newsgroups on the MS newsserver, 14 of them are English-language newsgroups. There were 43 of them on 14 Feb-07; 32 of them were English-language newsgroups. Not too shabby for an OS that hasn't been supported since July 2006. |
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