How to do a Dual Boot where win98 and windows xp are kept separate?

Hi,
1.I have one 80GB hard drive with win98 se fat32 installed and partitioned
into 8 drives.
2. I have another 20 GB hard drive with windows xp pro fat32 installed and
one partition.

I want to install the two drives on my ecs k7s5a pro motherboard:
http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7s5a_pro.html

I tried to installing the first hard drive on the 1st ide channel (no slave)
and the second hard drive as a slave on the 2nd ide with a cdrom as a master
(It probably should be the other way around , but I was too lazy to switch
them).
I press on F8 as I'm booting and a boot menu comes up asking me to choose
which one I want to boot with.
The problem is regardless of which one I boot with the drive (s) of the
other harddrive show up.

I want to use the first drive for use on the internet as well as other
stuff.

The second drive I don't want to use on the internet. I strictly want to use
it as a daw (digital audio workstation), with only windows xp and sonar 4
installed on it.

How do I create a dual boot so that I don't see the drive(s) of the other
hard drive on the one I boot with - i.e., where both hard drives are kept
completely separate?

Right now what I do is remove the power cable to the hard drive I don't want
to use and boot with the other hard drive.

Thanks,

Your best bet here is to purchase a switch that will allow you to
boot either to one drive or another. I have seen these in catalogs,
and will post a URL if I can locate this device.

Wait a second....
Are you using the ecs k7s5a pro mb at this time, or is this a new?
The problem I see is that some Windows installations load drivers
for a particular type of hardware, so if the W98 or XP installations
that you have now are not using this MB, the Win OS might not load
at all becasue you switched MBs on it.

Try connecting one drive to this MB and boot. Did it load Windows
correctly? If not, then you'll have to reinstall that Windows version.
Now try it with the other drive. Did it boot? If not, then you'll have
to
reinstall that Windows version. A real bummer, but a lot of hardware
changes when the MB is replaced! Obviously, if you were using this
MB with at least one of your WIndows installations, at least that
should load properly.

Good luck!
Saga

"John" wrote in message
.. .
Hi,
1.I have one 80GB hard drive with win98 se fat32 installed and
partitioned
into 8 drives.
2. I have another 20 GB hard drive with windows xp pro fat32 installed
and
one partition.

I want to install the two drives on my ecs k7s5a pro motherboard:
http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7s5a_pro.html

I tried to installing the first hard drive on the 1st ide channel (no
slave)
and the second hard drive as a slave on the 2nd ide with a cdrom as a
master
(It probably should be the other way around , but I was too lazy to
switch
them).
I press on F8 as I'm booting and a boot menu comes up asking me to
choose
which one I want to boot with.
The problem is regardless of which one I boot with the drive (s) of
the
other harddrive show up.

I want to use the first drive for use on the internet as well as other
stuff.

The second drive I don't want to use on the internet. I strictly want
to use
it as a daw (digital audio workstation), with only windows xp and
sonar 4
installed on it.

How do I create a dual boot so that I don't see the drive(s) of the
other
hard drive on the one I boot with - i.e., where both hard drives are
kept
completely separate?

Right now what I do is remove the power cable to the hard drive I
don't want
to use and boot with the other hard drive.

Thanks,

If still interested in the switch, called a hard rive selector, here is
the URL:

http://www.industechnologies.com/idx400.html

Saga

"John" wrote in message
.. .
Hi,
1.I have one 80GB hard drive with win98 se fat32 installed and
partitioned
into 8 drives.
2. I have another 20 GB hard drive with windows xp pro fat32 installed
and
one partition.

I want to install the two drives on my ecs k7s5a pro motherboard:
http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7s5a_pro.html

I tried to installing the first hard drive on the 1st ide channel (no
slave)
and the second hard drive as a slave on the 2nd ide with a cdrom as a
master
(It probably should be the other way around , but I was too lazy to
switch
them).
I press on F8 as I'm booting and a boot menu comes up asking me to
choose
which one I want to boot with.
The problem is regardless of which one I boot with the drive (s) of
the
other harddrive show up.

I want to use the first drive for use on the internet as well as other
stuff.

The second drive I don't want to use on the internet. I strictly want
to use
it as a daw (digital audio workstation), with only windows xp and
sonar 4
installed on it.

How do I create a dual boot so that I don't see the drive(s) of the
other
hard drive on the one I boot with - i.e., where both hard drives are
kept
completely separate?

Right now what I do is remove the power cable to the hard drive I
don't want
to use and boot with the other hard drive.

Thanks,

"John" wrote in
:

Hi,
1.I have one 80GB hard drive with win98 se fat32 installed and
partitioned into 8 drives.
2. I have another 20 GB hard drive with windows xp pro fat32 installed
and one partition.

I want to install the two drives on my ecs k7s5a pro motherboard:
http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7s5a_pro.html

I tried to installing the first hard drive on the 1st ide channel (no
slave) and the second hard drive as a slave on the 2nd ide with a
cdrom as a master (It probably should be the other way around , but I
was too lazy to switch them).
I press on F8 as I'm booting and a boot menu comes up asking me to
choose which one I want to boot with.
The problem is regardless of which one I boot with the drive (s) of
the other harddrive show up.

I want to use the first drive for use on the internet as well as other
stuff.

The second drive I don't want to use on the internet. I strictly want
to use it as a daw (digital audio workstation), with only windows xp
and sonar 4 installed on it.

How do I create a dual boot so that I don't see the drive(s) of the
other hard drive on the one I boot with - i.e., where both hard
drives are kept completely separate?

Right now what I do is remove the power cable to the hard drive I
don't want to use and boot with the other hard drive.

Thanks,




When you convert the XP drive to NTFS, the drive cannot be accessed while
in '98. But it still can be formatted or wiped when you will get _real_
bad malware.

When using this option you could use a bootmanager like Xosl.
http://www.ranish.com/part/xosl.htm

I would use a program like Partition Magic and change your XP PRO drive to
NTFS so that the 98SE drive cannot see it. The way I have my system is a 40
gig. hard drive with 98SE in Fat32 and an 80 gig. hard drive with XP Pro. in
NTFS. The 98SE drive cannot see the XP Pro. drive but remember the XP Pro.
drive can still see the 98SE drive. I would feel free to read your 98SE
files in XP Pro. but I would advise against making any changes to them in
case you end up corrupting the files so that they can no longer be read by
98SE. I hope this information helps and may you end up having as stable a
dual-boot system as I have currently.

"John" wrote in message
.. .
: Hi,
: 1.I have one 80GB hard drive with win98 se fat32 installed and partitioned
: into 8 drives.
: 2. I have another 20 GB hard drive with windows xp pro fat32 installed and
: one partition.
:
: I want to install the two drives on my ecs k7s5a pro motherboard:
: http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7s5a_pro.html
:
: I tried to installing the first hard drive on the 1st ide channel (no
slave)
: and the second hard drive as a slave on the 2nd ide with a cdrom as a
master
: (It probably should be the other way around , but I was too lazy to switch
: them).
: I press on F8 as I'm booting and a boot menu comes up asking me to choose
: which one I want to boot with.
: The problem is regardless of which one I boot with the drive (s) of the
: other harddrive show up.
:
: I want to use the first drive for use on the internet as well as other
: stuff.
:
: The second drive I don't want to use on the internet. I strictly want to
use
: it as a daw (digital audio workstation), with only windows xp and sonar 4
: installed on it.
:
: How do I create a dual boot so that I don't see the drive(s) of the other
: hard drive on the one I boot with - i.e., where both hard drives are kept
: completely separate?
:
: Right now what I do is remove the power cable to the hard drive I don't
want
: to use and boot with the other hard drive.
:
: Thanks,
:
:
:

When you convert the XP drive to NTFS, the drive cannot be accessed while
in '98. But it still can be formatted or wiped when you will get _real_
bad malware.

So your saying I should re-install with win xp ntfs instead of winxp fat32
on my second hard drive; then when booting I'll have the option to boot
with either os in the boot menu, and they will be completely separate from
each other?


When using this option you could use a bootmanager like Xosl.
http://www.ranish.com/part/xosl.htm

Do I need to install Xosl on my win98 se hard drive or can I use the boot
menu (f8) when booting?

Thanks,



"Ingeborg" wrote in message
...
"John" wrote in
:

Hi,
1.I have one 80GB hard drive with win98 se fat32 installed and
partitioned into 8 drives.
2. I have another 20 GB hard drive with windows xp pro fat32 installed
and one partition.

I want to install the two drives on my ecs k7s5a pro motherboard:
http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7s5a_pro.html

I tried to installing the first hard drive on the 1st ide channel (no
slave) and the second hard drive as a slave on the 2nd ide with a
cdrom as a master (It probably should be the other way around , but I
was too lazy to switch them).
I press on F8 as I'm booting and a boot menu comes up asking me to
choose which one I want to boot with.
The problem is regardless of which one I boot with the drive (s) of
the other harddrive show up.

I want to use the first drive for use on the internet as well as other
stuff.

The second drive I don't want to use on the internet. I strictly want
to use it as a daw (digital audio workstation), with only windows xp
and sonar 4 installed on it.

How do I create a dual boot so that I don't see the drive(s) of the
other hard drive on the one I boot with - i.e., where both hard
drives are kept completely separate?

Right now what I do is remove the power cable to the hard drive I
don't want to use and boot with the other hard drive.

Thanks,

Changing the partition from FAT32 to NTFS will not change your boot
procedure - it will simply make the NTFS partition invisible when you boot
to W98. You will still need a mechanism to determine which OS to boot to.
Some boot managers allow you to nominate which partitions are visible or
hidden for each boot option, making FAT32/NTFS a non-issue.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"John" wrote in message
.. .
When you convert the XP drive to NTFS, the drive cannot be accessed while
in '98. But it still can be formatted or wiped when you will get _real_
bad malware.

So your saying I should re-install with win xp ntfs instead of winxp fat32
on my second hard drive; then when booting I'll have the option to boot
with either os in the boot menu, and they will be completely separate
from
each other?

Sorry for the misunderstanding; I installed both os's on the
same and only motherboard I own: the ecs k7s5a pro motherboard - I wasn't
planning on getting another motherboard. They both work fine on this
motherboard.

What about this switch? How does it work?
The previous poster mentioned re-installing the xp drive in ntfs? This
might solve my problem, no?




"Saga" wrote in message
...
Your best bet here is to purchase a switch that will allow you to
boot either to one drive or another. I have seen these in catalogs,
and will post a URL if I can locate this device.

Wait a second....
Are you using the ecs k7s5a pro mb at this time, or is this a new?
The problem I see is that some Windows installations load drivers
for a particular type of hardware, so if the W98 or XP installations
that you have now are not using this MB, the Win OS might not load
at all becasue you switched MBs on it.

Try connecting one drive to this MB and boot. Did it load Windows
correctly? If not, then you'll have to reinstall that Windows version.
Now try it with the other drive. Did it boot? If not, then you'll have
to
reinstall that Windows version. A real bummer, but a lot of hardware
changes when the MB is replaced! Obviously, if you were using this
MB with at least one of your WIndows installations, at least that
should load properly.

Good luck!
Saga

"John" wrote in message
.. .
Hi,
1.I have one 80GB hard drive with win98 se fat32 installed and
partitioned
into 8 drives.
2. I have another 20 GB hard drive with windows xp pro fat32 installed
and
one partition.

I want to install the two drives on my ecs k7s5a pro motherboard:
http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7s5a_pro.html

I tried to installing the first hard drive on the 1st ide channel (no
slave)
and the second hard drive as a slave on the 2nd ide with a cdrom as a
master
(It probably should be the other way around , but I was too lazy to
switch
them).
I press on F8 as I'm booting and a boot menu comes up asking me to
choose
which one I want to boot with.
The problem is regardless of which one I boot with the drive (s) of
the
other harddrive show up.

I want to use the first drive for use on the internet as well as other
stuff.

The second drive I don't want to use on the internet. I strictly want
to use
it as a daw (digital audio workstation), with only windows xp and
sonar 4
installed on it.

How do I create a dual boot so that I don't see the drive(s) of the
other
hard drive on the one I boot with - i.e., where both hard drives are
kept
completely separate?

Right now what I do is remove the power cable to the hard drive I
don't want
to use and boot with the other hard drive.

Thanks,

Good idea.
How does it install?
How much does it cost?

"Saga" wrote in message
...

If still interested in the switch, called a hard rive selector, here is
the URL:

http://www.industechnologies.com/idx400.html

Saga

"John" wrote in message
.. .
Hi,
1.I have one 80GB hard drive with win98 se fat32 installed and
partitioned
into 8 drives.
2. I have another 20 GB hard drive with windows xp pro fat32 installed
and
one partition.

I want to install the two drives on my ecs k7s5a pro motherboard:
http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7s5a_pro.html

I tried to installing the first hard drive on the 1st ide channel (no
slave)
and the second hard drive as a slave on the 2nd ide with a cdrom as a
master
(It probably should be the other way around , but I was too lazy to
switch
them).
I press on F8 as I'm booting and a boot menu comes up asking me to
choose
which one I want to boot with.
The problem is regardless of which one I boot with the drive (s) of
the
other harddrive show up.

I want to use the first drive for use on the internet as well as other
stuff.

The second drive I don't want to use on the internet. I strictly want
to use
it as a daw (digital audio workstation), with only windows xp and
sonar 4
installed on it.

How do I create a dual boot so that I don't see the drive(s) of the
other
hard drive on the one I boot with - i.e., where both hard drives are
kept
completely separate?

Right now what I do is remove the power cable to the hard drive I
don't want
to use and boot with the other hard drive.

Thanks,

So re-partitioning xp to ntfs and using boot menu (f8) won't work?
So I need a boot manager and in that case I don't need to re-partition xp in
ntfs format?

However, will I have true separation between the two hard drives or should I
get a switch like this:
http://www.industechnologies.com/idx400.html?

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
Changing the partition from FAT32 to NTFS will not change your boot
procedure - it will simply make the NTFS partition invisible when you boot
to W98. You will still need a mechanism to determine which OS to boot to.
Some boot managers allow you to nominate which partitions are visible or
hidden for each boot option, making FAT32/NTFS a non-issue.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"John" wrote in message
.. .
When you convert the XP drive to NTFS, the drive cannot be accessed
while
in '98. But it still can be formatted or wiped when you will get _real_
bad malware.

So your saying I should re-install with win xp ntfs instead of winxp
fat32
on my second hard drive; then when booting I'll have the option to boot
with either os in the boot menu, and they will be completely separate
from
each other?