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Unable to install Win98 SE
Hmm, no one seems to have answered the actual questions so, here's some for
you.. First question: How big is the drive? If over 137 gig, then foobar. Second: Is the Bios set to AUTO for your drives, or is it hard set/prior detected? Set to Auto detect. Third: Did you format the drive through XP or with the old fdisk and format routine from DOS days. If XP: reformat the drive via DOS boot disk. Scandisk it afterwards. Fourth: If it was previously used for something else AND you just deleted the stuff and did not re-format through DOS, did you scandisk afterwards? Description of the Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows Me Setup Switches (Q186111) Computer Appears to Stop Responding During Windows 98 Setup (Q191391) Windows 98 Setup Stops Responding While Trying to Play a Sound (Q191257) Windows 98 Setup Loses Access to Source Drive (Q191827) Computer Hangs When You Restart for the First Time During Setup (Q193156) USB Devices May Not Work in Windows 98 Second Edition (Q240075) Start with these... I put a small comment at the end.,. "AuldPhart" wrote in message ... Hello, I will try to keep this as short and consise as I can. Up until about 6 months ago, I was running WIN98 SE. I decided to try out XP & SP2, and found that I like it pretty well. I installed the XP drivers for my ancient ATI All-In-Wonder Pro 128 AGP vid card. Since then, I have been unable to perform video capture using VirtualDub. I decided to install WIN98SE on another drive to get this ability back. When I try to install, I can get all of the files loaded on the drive in the WIN98 folder I created. When it comes time to install the OS, The mouse cursor freezes at the "Welcome to windows install" window. I borrowed a friends WIN98 SE disc, and the same thing happens. I have not changed a thing in regards to hardware since I last ran WIN98 SE. Any ideas? Thank you. -- AP P.E.T.A. People Eating Tasty Animals Suprisingly, Microsoft doesn't control the whole world YET, so use what you want for access. Microsoft RARELY follows standards for any of it's software. As long as there are easily lead people around, Microsoft will dominate, and it's users will claim it is the best, not knowing any better, regardless of other indications. It does no good to try to tell them. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ |
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Unable to install Win98 SE
"AuldPhart" wrote in message ... | On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 01:40:39 -0400, "MEB" meb@not wrote: | | | I see PCR finally is working WITH you, so I'll step back again.. just a few | comments below.. | | | "AuldPhart" wrote in message | .. . | | On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:39:59 -0400, "MEB" meb@not | wrote: | | | | Hmm, no one seems to have answered the actual questions so, here's some | for | | you.. | | | | First question: | | | | How big is the drive? If over 137 gig, then foobar. | | | | The drive is 60 gig. | | As directed elsewhere, make your "Windows" partition small for faster | scandisk and defrag... | | | | | Second: | | Is the Bios set to AUTO for your drives, or is it hard set/prior | detected? | | Set to Auto detect. | | | | It is set to Auto Detect. | | Good.. | | | | | Third: | | Did you format the drive through XP or with the old fdisk and format | routine | | from DOS days. | | If XP: reformat the drive via DOS boot disk. Scandisk it afterwards. | | | | I do the old fdisk and format. | | | | Fourth: | | If it was previously used for something else AND you just deleted the | stuff | | and did not re-format through DOS, did you scandisk afterwards? | | | | Yes, It was previously used for something else. That's why I did | | the old fdisk and format. FAT 32. | | Good. Wasn't XP NTFS was it? | | Yes it was, however, I did delete NON-DOS partitions. Had to modify this as I didn't send it immediately, and others elsewhere are helping, look at the end for some info.. ----- original Make SURE that those that help you realise it was previously "XP" NTFS with it's "HIDDEN PROTECTED/SYSTEM AREAS" (MFT Records[$Mft], Hex17 Hidden NTFS partitions, NTFS backup boot superblock, etc. - then of course dynamic drive brings it's own problems), which MAY leave alot of problems residual on the disk; which might now be "hard coded" and/or, since you have supposedly wiped the old boot record, essentially "un-relocatable bad sectors".. Scandisk likes to class them into "bad sectors" and leave your disk severely limited (S.M.A.R.T. failures) due to fdisk apparent failure to remove or even recognize them.. It's not unusual to find several hundred megs of "lost" hard drive space within a "mis-handled disk". I would venture to say, that many people don't realise they have lost some of their disk, since SMART replaces (or attempts to replace) most of it,, maybe just a loss of a "head" or un-explained early drive failure.. Microsoft appears to recommend Diskprobe, fsutil, Chkdsk, Dmdiag, Dskpart, Fixmbr, Ftonline, for attempting to deal with XP/NT5 NTFS disks. NTFS writes a duplicate of the boot sector in the following location: At the end of the volume. On volumes formatted with Windows XP Professional, Windows 2000, and Windows NT 4.0. At the logical center of the volume. Which makes those "tools" which re-write/recover by using just the MBR and old duplicate location, obsolete.. err, at least for XP/NT5. So, as your the only one with access to the disk, you might want to check the disk with some tools I mentioned elsewhere.. "MEB" meb@not wrote in message ... nothing will get me out of dos - microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion; and it's addendum. Or in short: hard drive tools and recovery http://www.cgsecurity.org/ Testdisk can be used to recover old MBR from backups on the hard disk and recovery may work from there with this tool or others.. http://www.cgsecurity.org/testdisk-6.3.dos.zip comes with some basic and extended info,, http://www.hdat2.com/ hdat2 - DOS hard drive testing, diagnostics, and repair tool. Supports PATA [(older disks) ATA, IDE, EIDE, DMA, UDMA] SATA, SCSI, RAID, and USB drives Pick up the hdat2en_4_51.pdf Hard Drive Guru http://www.hddguru.com MHDD - hard drive management English documentation has been moved to http://mhdd.com English FAQ: http://mhddsoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4261 Also some "nice" tools for 2000/XP For some info: http://www.geocities.com/thestarman3...br/FDISK98.htm Additional tools I have found useful are aefdisk and Super fdisk. http://www.aefdisk.com/ http://www.ptdd.com/ [pick up the data-recovery-book.pdf while your there] Do the eventual re-format (if you get it fixed) without the /s.. Some reference materials: KB119467 Q103049 KB122221 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...c28621675.mspx The above discusses certain variables, tools, and other which might be of use for any hard disk problems. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/reskits/webresources Now I really should fade to black and let the experts help you [ I'm gonna look really stupid when someone comes up with an easy "fix", then again, you might just "recover" lost clusters if you make the effort..] Addendum/after the fact-- Oh, let them know in the other part of these threads what type of mouse, Logitech perhaps?... see you tried it with a different disk so perhaps look at potential hardware issues.. cable seating, dirty contacts, video card partial unseating, stuff like that You've got at least three good people helping you now,, good luck [was going to delete the HD info as I'd written this originally a few hours ago, but what the heck, might be useful to someone...] [slashed] | | | | | Description of the Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows Me Setup Switches | | (Q186111) | | Computer Appears to Stop Responding During Windows 98 Setup (Q191391) | | Windows 98 Setup Stops Responding While Trying to Play a Sound (Q191257) | | Windows 98 Setup Loses Access to Source Drive (Q191827) | | Computer Hangs When You Restart for the First Time During Setup (Q193156) | | USB Devices May Not Work in Windows 98 Second Edition (Q240075) [slash] | As stated, PCR has you now.. his ball now, I will be in the background with | the others.. | | | I thank you for your replies. | | | "AuldPhart" wrote in message | | .. . | | Hello, I will try to keep this as short and consise as I can. | | | | Up until about 6 months ago, I was running WIN98 SE. I | | decided to try out XP & SP2, and found that I like it pretty | | well. I installed the XP drivers for my ancient ATI All-In-Wonder | | Pro 128 AGP vid card. Since then, I have been unable to | | perform video capture using VirtualDub. | | | | I decided to install WIN98SE on another drive to get this | | ability back. When I try to install, I can get all of the files | | loaded on the drive in the WIN98 folder I created. When | | it comes time to install the OS, The mouse cursor freezes | | at the "Welcome to windows install" window. I borrowed | | a friends WIN98 SE disc, and the same thing happens. | | I have not changed a thing in regards to hardware since | | I last ran WIN98 SE. | | | | Any ideas? Thank you. | | AP | | | | P.E.T.A. People Eating Tasty Animals | | | | Suprisingly, Microsoft doesn't control the whole world YET, so use what | you | | want for access. | | Microsoft RARELY follows standards for any of it's software. As long as | | there are easily lead people around, Microsoft will dominate, and it's | users | | will claim it is the best, not knowing any better, regardless of other | | indications. It does no good to try to tell them. | | -- | | AP | | P.E.T.A. People Eating Tasty Animals | | AND FOR THE GROUP various threads: | | Yeah, the governments of world have placed us in an unstable state right | now, but to use THIS news group to further bias and prejudice, or some form | of discrimination, or other "personal choice" agenda is hardly condusive to | what this group supposedly is for. | | Point taken. | | The us above, is not just the "western world" or the supposed | "democracies", or Christians/Muslims verses whomever,, because no matter | where on this SMALL planet you live; all of us wish for the same things: a | good life; to be left alone; and the ability to raise our children in a | better world.. it is always the "governments" [or those who wish to be such] | that direct us to kill each other en mass .. we can be "cannon fodder" for | their use, or we can be cautious and vigilant of what we are "directed to". | [Sorry to get on my soapbox everybody, but this needs said] | | -- | | AP | | P.E.T.A. People Eating Tasty Animals | | | -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ |
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