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  #11  
Old September 19th 05, 08:21 PM
Rose
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I am communicating on my other computer. Is the video adapter drivers the
same thing as the videio card drivers? Yes you can run some things on the
computer but they don't look right because the colors are set too low from
being in safe mode. Something about it happened to the colors when the
computer would only operate in safe mode. I did right click on my computer,
Properties and Device Manager tab to see what was under Display Adapter and
it said NVIDIA GeForce4 MX4000. I think you would call it a plug-in card
because when we installed it we plugged it into the motherboard. I don't
know how to install the sofware off of the CD. I put it into the CD drive
and nothing comes up on screen. Otherwise I am frustrated that this site
almost always says that it is "temporarily unavailable."

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OK. Well, what you almost certainly need to do is to reinstall Display Adapter
(Video Adapter) drivers. Question is, how to do that? You say you can't run any
programs. Then I take it that you are communicating with us using another
machine? You can't even, for instance, right-click on My Computer, then click on
Properties, then on the Device Manager tab? Can you access the devices that way?

Also, do you know what make/model your video adapter is? Is it "onboard", or is
it a plug-in card? I'd normally suggest Everest Home Edition, from
www.lavalys.com, to properly detect and identify your hardware, but if you won't
be able to effectively run it on that machine, that would be a problem if you
truly can't run anything on the machine as it is.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User


"Rose" wrote in message
...
Dear Mr. Terhune,
If I perform a normal startup the system starts successfully and shuts down
properly. The display settings do not perform properly in that when you
click on "Display", "Settings" it goes blank and doesn't allow any settings
to be set. You have to hit control-alt-del to restart windows from the
beginning because it gets hung up there. I can't run any programs because
the color setting is too low from when it was in safemode before this normal
startup. It's a good fast running 2.8 ghz computer, just a bad dicision to
save money to put win98 on it and it's not that old.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OK, Rose. What I've been trying to get to is that the Config.sys issue may be
a
red herring--may have nothing at all to do with your problem.

Again, if you perform a Normal Startup, with everything enabled in MSCONFIG,
does the system start up successfully? Does Display Settings perform
properly?
Does it shut down properly? Test several times. I think we're chasing
phantoms,
here. I'd like to return to ground zero and follow your steps more closely.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
Yes Mrs. Terhune, there is a config.sys tab. Nothing in it though.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Just to make sure, run MSCONFIG from the Start\Run box. Is there a
Config.sys
tab, and if so, is there anything in it?

If you do a Normal restart now, does the problem return?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
Yes I did Step-by-Step from the startup menu. There is a config.pss
file
that is empty and a couple of config files with no extension. One is
blank
and the other has "MIDI Instrument Definition" written in it. There is a
couple of text config files, one with instructions the other is huge
having
to do with a game I think. If you want me to use Dos to find the
config.sys
file, hmmmm I don't remember my Dos commands. I used the "Find" option
in
windows. Thank you so much. Is there anything else I need to do that
you
can think of?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

What do you mean by "diagnostic startup"? Did you use "Step-by-Step"
from
the
Startup Menu. or did you use settings in MSCONFIG (System Configuration
Utility), or what?

Reason I ask, is I'd like to know what's in your CONFIG.SYS, but it may
have
been renamed to CONFIG.TSH or something else. Suggest you look for any
C:\CONFIG.xxx where xxx is any extension. Use Notepad to open them and
Copy/Paste the contents of each here.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
I ran the diagnostic startup to bypass configsys file and that fixed
the
problem with hanging up at startup, now when I click on Control
panel,
Display, Settings the screen goes blank and hangs up win98. Are
there
any
answers to this mystery?








  #12  
Old September 19th 05, 09:45 PM
Gary S. Terhune
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Display Adapter, Video Adapter, video card--all the same thing. It's just that a
video/display adapter doesn't *need* to be a card--it might be "onboard", part
of the motherboard. Here's what I suggest:

Download the updated drivers file (actually an entire video management suite)
from he
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_77.72.html

Save it to your Desktop where it's easy to find, then run it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
I am communicating on my other computer. Is the video adapter drivers the
same thing as the videio card drivers? Yes you can run some things on the
computer but they don't look right because the colors are set too low from
being in safe mode. Something about it happened to the colors when the
computer would only operate in safe mode. I did right click on my computer,
Properties and Device Manager tab to see what was under Display Adapter and
it said NVIDIA GeForce4 MX4000. I think you would call it a plug-in card
because when we installed it we plugged it into the motherboard. I don't
know how to install the sofware off of the CD. I put it into the CD drive
and nothing comes up on screen. Otherwise I am frustrated that this site
almost always says that it is "temporarily unavailable."

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OK. Well, what you almost certainly need to do is to reinstall Display
Adapter
(Video Adapter) drivers. Question is, how to do that? You say you can't run
any
programs. Then I take it that you are communicating with us using another
machine? You can't even, for instance, right-click on My Computer, then click
on
Properties, then on the Device Manager tab? Can you access the devices that
way?

Also, do you know what make/model your video adapter is? Is it "onboard", or
is
it a plug-in card? I'd normally suggest Everest Home Edition, from
www.lavalys.com, to properly detect and identify your hardware, but if you
won't
be able to effectively run it on that machine, that would be a problem if you
truly can't run anything on the machine as it is.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User


"Rose" wrote in message
...
Dear Mr. Terhune,
If I perform a normal startup the system starts successfully and shuts down
properly. The display settings do not perform properly in that when you
click on "Display", "Settings" it goes blank and doesn't allow any settings
to be set. You have to hit control-alt-del to restart windows from the
beginning because it gets hung up there. I can't run any programs because
the color setting is too low from when it was in safemode before this
normal
startup. It's a good fast running 2.8 ghz computer, just a bad dicision to
save money to put win98 on it and it's not that old.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OK, Rose. What I've been trying to get to is that the Config.sys issue may
be
a
red herring--may have nothing at all to do with your problem.

Again, if you perform a Normal Startup, with everything enabled in
MSCONFIG,
does the system start up successfully? Does Display Settings perform
properly?
Does it shut down properly? Test several times. I think we're chasing
phantoms,
here. I'd like to return to ground zero and follow your steps more
closely.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
Yes Mrs. Terhune, there is a config.sys tab. Nothing in it though.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Just to make sure, run MSCONFIG from the Start\Run box. Is there a
Config.sys
tab, and if so, is there anything in it?

If you do a Normal restart now, does the problem return?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
Yes I did Step-by-Step from the startup menu. There is a config.pss
file
that is empty and a couple of config files with no extension. One is
blank
and the other has "MIDI Instrument Definition" written in it. There
is a
couple of text config files, one with instructions the other is huge
having
to do with a game I think. If you want me to use Dos to find the
config.sys
file, hmmmm I don't remember my Dos commands. I used the "Find"
option
in
windows. Thank you so much. Is there anything else I need to do
that
you
can think of?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

What do you mean by "diagnostic startup"? Did you use "Step-by-Step"
from
the
Startup Menu. or did you use settings in MSCONFIG (System
Configuration
Utility), or what?

Reason I ask, is I'd like to know what's in your CONFIG.SYS, but it
may
have
been renamed to CONFIG.TSH or something else. Suggest you look for
any
C:\CONFIG.xxx where xxx is any extension. Use Notepad to open them
and
Copy/Paste the contents of each here.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
I ran the diagnostic startup to bypass configsys file and that
fixed
the
problem with hanging up at startup, now when I click on Control
panel,
Display, Settings the screen goes blank and hangs up win98. Are
there
any
answers to this mystery?









  #13  
Old September 19th 05, 10:43 PM
Brian A.
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Before downloading/installing:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/driver_...ion_hints.html

Also create a new folder on your desktop, on c:\ or on a separate partition
named NVidia or whatever you wish.
Download the file from the link Gary supplied to that folder.
Using WinZip or any other compression/decompression application, extract the
files from within the downloaded file to the same folder. I haven't used WinZip
in a long time, but you should be able to press/hold the Right mouse button on
the downloaded file, drag and drop in the same folder and select extract here
from a popup list.

After downloading/extracting the files to the new folder, read the "Readme.txt"
for instructions on preparation and installation. Once you have read all and
are ready, have at it and good luck.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"Rose" wrote in message
...
I am communicating on my other computer. Is the video adapter drivers the
same thing as the videio card drivers? Yes you can run some things on the
computer but they don't look right because the colors are set too low from
being in safe mode. Something about it happened to the colors when the
computer would only operate in safe mode. I did right click on my computer,
Properties and Device Manager tab to see what was under Display Adapter and
it said NVIDIA GeForce4 MX4000. I think you would call it a plug-in card
because when we installed it we plugged it into the motherboard. I don't
know how to install the sofware off of the CD. I put it into the CD drive
and nothing comes up on screen. Otherwise I am frustrated that this site
almost always says that it is "temporarily unavailable."

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OK. Well, what you almost certainly need to do is to reinstall Display
Adapter
(Video Adapter) drivers. Question is, how to do that? You say you can't run
any
programs. Then I take it that you are communicating with us using another
machine? You can't even, for instance, right-click on My Computer, then click
on
Properties, then on the Device Manager tab? Can you access the devices that
way?

Also, do you know what make/model your video adapter is? Is it "onboard", or
is
it a plug-in card? I'd normally suggest Everest Home Edition, from
www.lavalys.com, to properly detect and identify your hardware, but if you
won't
be able to effectively run it on that machine, that would be a problem if you
truly can't run anything on the machine as it is.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User


"Rose" wrote in message
...
Dear Mr. Terhune,
If I perform a normal startup the system starts successfully and shuts down
properly. The display settings do not perform properly in that when you
click on "Display", "Settings" it goes blank and doesn't allow any settings
to be set. You have to hit control-alt-del to restart windows from the
beginning because it gets hung up there. I can't run any programs because
the color setting is too low from when it was in safemode before this
normal
startup. It's a good fast running 2.8 ghz computer, just a bad dicision to
save money to put win98 on it and it's not that old.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OK, Rose. What I've been trying to get to is that the Config.sys issue may
be
a
red herring--may have nothing at all to do with your problem.

Again, if you perform a Normal Startup, with everything enabled in
MSCONFIG,
does the system start up successfully? Does Display Settings perform
properly?
Does it shut down properly? Test several times. I think we're chasing
phantoms,
here. I'd like to return to ground zero and follow your steps more
closely.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
Yes Mrs. Terhune, there is a config.sys tab. Nothing in it though.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Just to make sure, run MSCONFIG from the Start\Run box. Is there a
Config.sys
tab, and if so, is there anything in it?

If you do a Normal restart now, does the problem return?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
Yes I did Step-by-Step from the startup menu. There is a config.pss
file
that is empty and a couple of config files with no extension. One is
blank
and the other has "MIDI Instrument Definition" written in it. There
is a
couple of text config files, one with instructions the other is huge
having
to do with a game I think. If you want me to use Dos to find the
config.sys
file, hmmmm I don't remember my Dos commands. I used the "Find"
option
in
windows. Thank you so much. Is there anything else I need to do
that
you
can think of?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

What do you mean by "diagnostic startup"? Did you use "Step-by-Step"
from
the
Startup Menu. or did you use settings in MSCONFIG (System
Configuration
Utility), or what?

Reason I ask, is I'd like to know what's in your CONFIG.SYS, but it
may
have
been renamed to CONFIG.TSH or something else. Suggest you look for
any
C:\CONFIG.xxx where xxx is any extension. Use Notepad to open them
and
Copy/Paste the contents of each here.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
I ran the diagnostic startup to bypass configsys file and that
fixed
the
problem with hanging up at startup, now when I click on Control
panel,
Display, Settings the screen goes blank and hangs up win98. Are
there
any
answers to this mystery?









  #14  
Old September 27th 05, 07:48 PM
Rose
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Thanks, I moved the computer, built an internet connection and did that
download and installation of the new updated drivers. Now the computer is
back to where it won't boot up. It gets to the Win98Plus picture screen and
then goes blank. It will only run in safe mode.

Then when I go back into windows help, it tells me to run the step-by-step
diagnostic again and that's what I did before. It's a vicious circle.

I still don't see anything in the configsys and autoexec.bat files when I
run msconfig. I don't know why it won't boot up.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Display Adapter, Video Adapter, video card--all the same thing. It's just that a
video/display adapter doesn't *need* to be a card--it might be "onboard", part
of the motherboard. Here's what I suggest:

Download the updated drivers file (actually an entire video management suite)
from he
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_77.72.html

Save it to your Desktop where it's easy to find, then run it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
I am communicating on my other computer. Is the video adapter drivers the
same thing as the videio card drivers? Yes you can run some things on the
computer but they don't look right because the colors are set too low from
being in safe mode. Something about it happened to the colors when the
computer would only operate in safe mode. I did right click on my computer,
Properties and Device Manager tab to see what was under Display Adapter and
it said NVIDIA GeForce4 MX4000. I think you would call it a plug-in card
because when we installed it we plugged it into the motherboard. I don't
know how to install the sofware off of the CD. I put it into the CD drive
and nothing comes up on screen. Otherwise I am frustrated that this site
almost always says that it is "temporarily unavailable."

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OK. Well, what you almost certainly need to do is to reinstall Display
Adapter
(Video Adapter) drivers. Question is, how to do that? You say you can't run
any
programs. Then I take it that you are communicating with us using another
machine? You can't even, for instance, right-click on My Computer, then click
on
Properties, then on the Device Manager tab? Can you access the devices that
way?

Also, do you know what make/model your video adapter is? Is it "onboard", or
is
it a plug-in card? I'd normally suggest Everest Home Edition, from
www.lavalys.com, to properly detect and identify your hardware, but if you
won't
be able to effectively run it on that machine, that would be a problem if you
truly can't run anything on the machine as it is.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User


"Rose" wrote in message
...
Dear Mr. Terhune,
If I perform a normal startup the system starts successfully and shuts down
properly. The display settings do not perform properly in that when you
click on "Display", "Settings" it goes blank and doesn't allow any settings
to be set. You have to hit control-alt-del to restart windows from the
beginning because it gets hung up there. I can't run any programs because
the color setting is too low from when it was in safemode before this
normal
startup. It's a good fast running 2.8 ghz computer, just a bad dicision to
save money to put win98 on it and it's not that old.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OK, Rose. What I've been trying to get to is that the Config.sys issue may
be
a
red herring--may have nothing at all to do with your problem.

Again, if you perform a Normal Startup, with everything enabled in
MSCONFIG,
does the system start up successfully? Does Display Settings perform
properly?
Does it shut down properly? Test several times. I think we're chasing
phantoms,
here. I'd like to return to ground zero and follow your steps more
closely.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
Yes Mrs. Terhune, there is a config.sys tab. Nothing in it though.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Just to make sure, run MSCONFIG from the Start\Run box. Is there a
Config.sys
tab, and if so, is there anything in it?

If you do a Normal restart now, does the problem return?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
Yes I did Step-by-Step from the startup menu. There is a config.pss
file
that is empty and a couple of config files with no extension. One is
blank
and the other has "MIDI Instrument Definition" written in it. There
is a
couple of text config files, one with instructions the other is huge
having
to do with a game I think. If you want me to use Dos to find the
config.sys
file, hmmmm I don't remember my Dos commands. I used the "Find"
option
in
windows. Thank you so much. Is there anything else I need to do
that
you
can think of?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

What do you mean by "diagnostic startup"? Did you use "Step-by-Step"
from
the
Startup Menu. or did you use settings in MSCONFIG (System
Configuration
Utility), or what?

Reason I ask, is I'd like to know what's in your CONFIG.SYS, but it
may
have
been renamed to CONFIG.TSH or something else. Suggest you look for
any
C:\CONFIG.xxx where xxx is any extension. Use Notepad to open them
and
Copy/Paste the contents of each here.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
I ran the diagnostic startup to bypass configsys file and that
fixed
the
problem with hanging up at startup, now when I click on Control
panel,
Display, Settings the screen goes blank and hangs up win98. Are
there
any
answers to this mystery?










  #15  
Old September 27th 05, 09:39 PM
Brian A.
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Boot to Safe Mode.
Click Start Settings Control Panel Add/Remove Programs applet.
Look for anything pertaining to the video card/adapter/chip, uninstall and close
out of A/R Progs.
Do not reboot yet if prompted.

Double the System applet and click Device Manager tab.
Expand Display Adapter, delete any/all devices listed and close out.
Do not reboot yet if prompted.
Close CP.

Open Explorer and look for any left over folders pertaining to the video
card/adapter/chip in c:\program files and delete them.
Close out and reboot.

Windows should detect new hardware to install.
Choose to search for files and click next.
Put your adapter CD in the drive. Cancel/exit CD if it autostarts.
In the hardware wizard window select only the "Search for in" text box.
Click the browse button, browse to the folder where the drivers are for Win98
and double click it.
If needed click OK to get back to the hw wiz window.
Follow the prompts until finished.


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"Rose" wrote in message
news
Thanks, I moved the computer, built an internet connection and did that
download and installation of the new updated drivers. Now the computer is
back to where it won't boot up. It gets to the Win98Plus picture screen and
then goes blank. It will only run in safe mode.

Then when I go back into windows help, it tells me to run the step-by-step
diagnostic again and that's what I did before. It's a vicious circle.

I still don't see anything in the configsys and autoexec.bat files when I
run msconfig. I don't know why it won't boot up.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Display Adapter, Video Adapter, video card--all the same thing. It's just
that a
video/display adapter doesn't *need* to be a card--it might be "onboard",
part
of the motherboard. Here's what I suggest:

Download the updated drivers file (actually an entire video management suite)
from he
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_77.72.html

Save it to your Desktop where it's easy to find, then run it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
I am communicating on my other computer. Is the video adapter drivers the
same thing as the videio card drivers? Yes you can run some things on the
computer but they don't look right because the colors are set too low from
being in safe mode. Something about it happened to the colors when the
computer would only operate in safe mode. I did right click on my
computer,
Properties and Device Manager tab to see what was under Display Adapter and
it said NVIDIA GeForce4 MX4000. I think you would call it a plug-in card
because when we installed it we plugged it into the motherboard. I don't
know how to install the sofware off of the CD. I put it into the CD drive
and nothing comes up on screen. Otherwise I am frustrated that this site
almost always says that it is "temporarily unavailable."

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OK. Well, what you almost certainly need to do is to reinstall Display
Adapter
(Video Adapter) drivers. Question is, how to do that? You say you can't
run
any
programs. Then I take it that you are communicating with us using another
machine? You can't even, for instance, right-click on My Computer, then
click
on
Properties, then on the Device Manager tab? Can you access the devices
that
way?

Also, do you know what make/model your video adapter is? Is it "onboard",
or
is
it a plug-in card? I'd normally suggest Everest Home Edition, from
www.lavalys.com, to properly detect and identify your hardware, but if you
won't
be able to effectively run it on that machine, that would be a problem if
you
truly can't run anything on the machine as it is.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User


"Rose" wrote in message
...
Dear Mr. Terhune,
If I perform a normal startup the system starts successfully and shuts
down
properly. The display settings do not perform properly in that when you
click on "Display", "Settings" it goes blank and doesn't allow any
settings
to be set. You have to hit control-alt-del to restart windows from the
beginning because it gets hung up there. I can't run any programs
because
the color setting is too low from when it was in safemode before this
normal
startup. It's a good fast running 2.8 ghz computer, just a bad dicision
to
save money to put win98 on it and it's not that old.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OK, Rose. What I've been trying to get to is that the Config.sys issue
may
be
a
red herring--may have nothing at all to do with your problem.

Again, if you perform a Normal Startup, with everything enabled in
MSCONFIG,
does the system start up successfully? Does Display Settings perform
properly?
Does it shut down properly? Test several times. I think we're chasing
phantoms,
here. I'd like to return to ground zero and follow your steps more
closely.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
Yes Mrs. Terhune, there is a config.sys tab. Nothing in it though.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Just to make sure, run MSCONFIG from the Start\Run box. Is there a
Config.sys
tab, and if so, is there anything in it?

If you do a Normal restart now, does the problem return?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
Yes I did Step-by-Step from the startup menu. There is a
config.pss
file
that is empty and a couple of config files with no extension. One
is
blank
and the other has "MIDI Instrument Definition" written in it.
There
is a
couple of text config files, one with instructions the other is
huge
having
to do with a game I think. If you want me to use Dos to find the
config.sys
file, hmmmm I don't remember my Dos commands. I used the "Find"
option
in
windows. Thank you so much. Is there anything else I need to do
that
you
can think of?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

What do you mean by "diagnostic startup"? Did you use
"Step-by-Step"
from
the
Startup Menu. or did you use settings in MSCONFIG (System
Configuration
Utility), or what?

Reason I ask, is I'd like to know what's in your CONFIG.SYS, but
it
may
have
been renamed to CONFIG.TSH or something else. Suggest you look
for
any
C:\CONFIG.xxx where xxx is any extension. Use Notepad to open
them
and
Copy/Paste the contents of each here.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Rose" wrote in message
...
I ran the diagnostic startup to bypass configsys file and that
fixed
the
problem with hanging up at startup, now when I click on Control
panel,
Display, Settings the screen goes blank and hangs up win98.
Are
there
any
answers to this mystery?











 




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