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Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup
On Nov 21, 8:26 pm, who where wrote:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:00:04 -0800 (PST), " wrote: Thanks Brian. Even Norton Ghost won't see the "C" drive. However, the 1 gig settings file + bootup file for Puppy Linux are on the "C" drive. Puppy seems to access these files perfectly, booting with all the settings intact. Even the GParted partitioning software on Puppy sees my "C" drive as a legit Fat 32 single partition comprising the entire drive. 98SE on a single 1G FAT32 partition? More info required. What sort of disk manager system are you using? who where, my problem went away on its own, check my earlier reply. The I gig file is a "save settings" file for Puppy Linux live cd which is how I got to my "C" drive when 98SE would not boot up. |
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Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup
On Nov 21, 10:14 pm, MEB wrote:
On 11/21/2009 08:24 PM, wrote: On Nov 21, 7:49 pm, MEB wrote: On 11/21/2009 06:47 PM, wrote: On Nov 21, 3:16 pm, MEB wrote: On 11/21/2009 02:45 PM, wrote: On Nov 21, 2:28 pm, MEB wrote: On 11/21/2009 02:07 PM, wrote: On Nov 21, 1:48 pm, MEB wrote: On 11/21/2009 01:00 PM, wrote: On Nov 21, 11:41 pm, "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote: wrote in message For the first time ever, when I bootup 98SE, I get a "Drive not Found", insert boot floppy then press any key, nothing happens. When I reboot the machine with the boot floppy in it, I get the 3 possibility error choice before the "A" prompt. either not a valid Fat32 partition, create another partition, or a virus. I just spent 3 hours performing a complete virus + spyware scan, no problems. I am not a techie so the other two make no sense since the computer has been working perfectly all along. I also perform a Scandisk from the boot floppy, everything is fine. I was planning to install XP Pro in the near future. When I run the XP install cd and it comes to the point of what to do with the "C" drive, it also won't recognise a valid "C" drive, asks me if I want to delete my 98SE configuration then create a new partition, start from scratch, which I will do if I can't fix the existing problem. I have everything on 98SE backed up on a Norton Ghost image disk, as well as other backup cd's. I can even extract material from my "C" drive to a usb key in Linux. When I try Fdisk, I get the message that there is no drive found, even Format c: won't work. I am writing this from my Puppy Linux live cd, which boots perfectly from my cd/rw. I also check my "C" drive from Linux, everything seems ok. Is there anyway a non-techie like me can rescue my 98SE system easily. Thanks. Have you tried booting with the Ghost disk to restore the image? If Ghost fails to recognize the drive see: Troubleshooting Windows 98 Startup Problemshttp://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q188867 How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q192926 Also read "Clean Boot -- What it is and why you need it" by MS MVP Gary Terhune.http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cl...w..grystmill.c... -- Brian A. Sesko Conflicts start where information lacks.http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://members.shaw.ca/dts-l/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Thanks Brian. Even Norton Ghost won't see the "C" drive. However, the 1 gig settings file + bootup file for Puppy Linux are on the "C" drive. Puppy seems to access these files perfectly, booting with all the settings intact. Even the GParted partitioning software on Puppy sees my "C" drive as a legit Fat 32 single partition comprising the entire drive. Even the Pdisk Puppy software sees the model number of the "C" drive, says its OK. I am checking the links you gave me but there is so much info, some I can't figure out that it will take awhile. Since I want to install XP Pro anyways, I think I might just do that to restore the integrity of the drive for Windows. Then I still have the 98SE ghost image if I want to revert back. This type of experience speaks volumes for having a Linux live cd at least for rescue purposes. Puppy is so small that it loads into ram so it runs almost as quick as 98SE. Also I am experimenting with a Mac G3/400, that I think (when I get a more powerful machine) is the future for me, no viruses, no blue screens, almost no crashes, elegant, simple software install/uninstalls. Just fun in the winter to plays with all these formats. Couple of questions: 1. Is the partition "ACTIVE". [related to potential manager issues] 2. Do you dual/multi boot? 3. Which boot manager are you using and version? 4. Did you recently upgrade the boot manager? 5. Did you install the boot manager to the MBR or a distinct area? And something you may not want to hear; there are Apple/MAC malware in the wild. It is just sales hype that it is free from that type of activity, and they do contain somewhat different hack vectors than those normally found in Windows machines. Not to the same attacked activities as in a Windows based computer, but trojan and like are found. The main attack points appear to be leveraged more towards the installed applications [just as in other OSs] like QT, ITunes, Safari, etc.. [see CERT and like materials], which of course provides the "door" necessary for other activities. The old "limited usage is protection" argument no longer holds the same value it once did. A couple cross-countering arguments to review: http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/0...-malware-myth/ http://blog.trendmicro.com/more-mac-...e-in-the-wild/ http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/55765.html -- MEB Thanks MEB. I'll check out your links. I am just going by my fairly non-techie experiences with my iMac G3/400. I run ClamXav, the only free anti-virus software for the Mac, never a problem. The Panther 10.3.9 OS just seems to run problem free. I use Firefox, the Gimp, Apple Mail, just works that's all I can say. Just want to keep all my OS options open. Well, it wasn't meant to deter usage nor discredit the long security history of the Apple OSs, just more of an FYI type of addition due to changing attitudes in the hacker world; *security through obscurity* just isn't viable anymore. The reason I asked per the potential boot manager and drive issue was due to my own recent issue with a grub update which kill access when it decided to change its method *on its own* during an update. Glad you got the drive issue fixed... -- MEB The only problem with the Mac is the outrageous price of new machines probable 2-3 times more than a comparable Windows machine. That's why I am looking for an older Mac with sufficient tech specs to enjoy what contemporary computing has to offer. I am never in a hurry, so I will be careful when I choose. Ken. Then you'll likely run across information that the non-Intel based systems were somewhat more secure since the Apple OSs were specifically designed for it. When the change came through to Intel, the code naturally and by necessity changed bringing more errors and potential vulnerabilities along with the code changes. As for price issues, you must remember there aren't multiple Apple *clones* causing price reduction. Blame Apple for crushing competitors through various legal actions. -- MEB I agree, there is no Apple competition, but I am looking for a PPC not an Intel Mac preferably to run Tiger 10.4.11 as the OS, hence the greater security I am experiencing. I am actually writing this from my iMac, just hooked up my IBM 19" CRT monitor to see both monitors in action. The IBM C92 just blows away the iMac monitor away, the clarity is excellent. Ken. Finer pixel count and/or different grid pattern maybe... Yeah, older actually is sometimes better... and even with some computers ;=} As for Tiger 10.4.11, some stuff you may or may not want to know: Apple Updates for Multiple Vulnerabilities Original release date: Sep 16, 2008 http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA08-260A.html Apple Updates for Multiple Vulnerabilities Original release date: December 15, 2008 http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA08-350A.html Search of US CERT for Tiger 10.4.11 http://search.us-cert.gov/search?q=T...=0&btnG.y=0&bt... http://www.apple.com/downloads/macos...tes/macosx1041.... Compared to the MS OSs, there isn't much found vulnerability-wise, then again there aren't that many users either, so maybe some things aren't being found that should be... -- MEB MEB. I am currently running Panther 10.3.9 on my iMac G3/400. Even if I acquire a higher spec Mac with the Tiger install disks, the update process is fairly automatic. After installing Tiger 10.4, usually a screen comes up soon after offering all the updates to 10.4.11 usually in one pack, takes awhile to install but nothing after that unless some special security update happens. Usually any further updates are software specific (eg Firefox, Microsoft Office). Ken. Well, that's good to know. I don't have much experience even using MACs so all I can do is look at the available materials and wonder. There does seem to be some complaints on slowness of updates, then again there always is. On the other hand, looking at the comparative vulnerabilities in other Apple applications fills in ... read more » MEB. I never have a problem with the Mac OS updates. As far as using certain software on a Mac, I use Neo Office, a strictly Mac version of Open Office. Neo Office was written to use all the functionality of a Mac. If you get a chance to play with even an older Mac like my iMac G3/400, give it a good workout. I was skeptical at first, but once I got into it, it really grew on me. No hassles, that's the key. Ken. |
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Drive Not Found on 98SE bootup
On Nov 21, 10:14 pm, MEB wrote:
On 11/21/2009 08:24 PM, wrote: On Nov 21, 7:49 pm, MEB wrote: On 11/21/2009 06:47 PM, wrote: On Nov 21, 3:16 pm, MEB wrote: On 11/21/2009 02:45 PM, wrote: On Nov 21, 2:28 pm, MEB wrote: On 11/21/2009 02:07 PM, wrote: On Nov 21, 1:48 pm, MEB wrote: On 11/21/2009 01:00 PM, wrote: On Nov 21, 11:41 pm, "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote: wrote in message For the first time ever, when I bootup 98SE, I get a "Drive not Found", insert boot floppy then press any key, nothing happens. When I reboot the machine with the boot floppy in it, I get the 3 possibility error choice before the "A" prompt. either not a valid Fat32 partition, create another partition, or a virus. I just spent 3 hours performing a complete virus + spyware scan, no problems. I am not a techie so the other two make no sense since the computer has been working perfectly all along. I also perform a Scandisk from the boot floppy, everything is fine. I was planning to install XP Pro in the near future. When I run the XP install cd and it comes to the point of what to do with the "C" drive, it also won't recognise a valid "C" drive, asks me if I want to delete my 98SE configuration then create a new partition, start from scratch, which I will do if I can't fix the existing problem. I have everything on 98SE backed up on a Norton Ghost image disk, as well as other backup cd's. I can even extract material from my "C" drive to a usb key in Linux. When I try Fdisk, I get the message that there is no drive found, even Format c: won't work. I am writing this from my Puppy Linux live cd, which boots perfectly from my cd/rw. I also check my "C" drive from Linux, everything seems ok. Is there anyway a non-techie like me can rescue my 98SE system easily. Thanks. Have you tried booting with the Ghost disk to restore the image? If Ghost fails to recognize the drive see: Troubleshooting Windows 98 Startup Problemshttp://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q188867 How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q192926 Also read "Clean Boot -- What it is and why you need it" by MS MVP Gary Terhune.http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cl...w..grystmill.c... -- Brian A. Sesko Conflicts start where information lacks.http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://members.shaw.ca/dts-l/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Thanks Brian. Even Norton Ghost won't see the "C" drive. However, the 1 gig settings file + bootup file for Puppy Linux are on the "C" drive. Puppy seems to access these files perfectly, booting with all the settings intact. Even the GParted partitioning software on Puppy sees my "C" drive as a legit Fat 32 single partition comprising the entire drive. Even the Pdisk Puppy software sees the model number of the "C" drive, says its OK. I am checking the links you gave me but there is so much info, some I can't figure out that it will take awhile. Since I want to install XP Pro anyways, I think I might just do that to restore the integrity of the drive for Windows. Then I still have the 98SE ghost image if I want to revert back. This type of experience speaks volumes for having a Linux live cd at least for rescue purposes. Puppy is so small that it loads into ram so it runs almost as quick as 98SE. Also I am experimenting with a Mac G3/400, that I think (when I get a more powerful machine) is the future for me, no viruses, no blue screens, almost no crashes, elegant, simple software install/uninstalls. Just fun in the winter to plays with all these formats. Couple of questions: 1. Is the partition "ACTIVE". [related to potential manager issues] 2. Do you dual/multi boot? 3. Which boot manager are you using and version? 4. Did you recently upgrade the boot manager? 5. Did you install the boot manager to the MBR or a distinct area? And something you may not want to hear; there are Apple/MAC malware in the wild. It is just sales hype that it is free from that type of activity, and they do contain somewhat different hack vectors than those normally found in Windows machines. Not to the same attacked activities as in a Windows based computer, but trojan and like are found. The main attack points appear to be leveraged more towards the installed applications [just as in other OSs] like QT, ITunes, Safari, etc.. [see CERT and like materials], which of course provides the "door" necessary for other activities. The old "limited usage is protection" argument no longer holds the same value it once did. A couple cross-countering arguments to review: http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/0...-malware-myth/ http://blog.trendmicro.com/more-mac-...e-in-the-wild/ http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/55765.html -- MEB Thanks MEB. I'll check out your links. I am just going by my fairly non-techie experiences with my iMac G3/400. I run ClamXav, the only free anti-virus software for the Mac, never a problem. The Panther 10.3.9 OS just seems to run problem free. I use Firefox, the Gimp, Apple Mail, just works that's all I can say. Just want to keep all my OS options open. Well, it wasn't meant to deter usage nor discredit the long security history of the Apple OSs, just more of an FYI type of addition due to changing attitudes in the hacker world; *security through obscurity* just isn't viable anymore. The reason I asked per the potential boot manager and drive issue was due to my own recent issue with a grub update which kill access when it decided to change its method *on its own* during an update. Glad you got the drive issue fixed... -- MEB The only problem with the Mac is the outrageous price of new machines probable 2-3 times more than a comparable Windows machine. That's why I am looking for an older Mac with sufficient tech specs to enjoy what contemporary computing has to offer. I am never in a hurry, so I will be careful when I choose. Ken. Then you'll likely run across information that the non-Intel based systems were somewhat more secure since the Apple OSs were specifically designed for it. When the change came through to Intel, the code naturally and by necessity changed bringing more errors and potential vulnerabilities along with the code changes. As for price issues, you must remember there aren't multiple Apple *clones* causing price reduction. Blame Apple for crushing competitors through various legal actions. -- MEB I agree, there is no Apple competition, but I am looking for a PPC not an Intel Mac preferably to run Tiger 10.4.11 as the OS, hence the greater security I am experiencing. I am actually writing this from my iMac, just hooked up my IBM 19" CRT monitor to see both monitors in action. The IBM C92 just blows away the iMac monitor away, the clarity is excellent. Ken. Finer pixel count and/or different grid pattern maybe... Yeah, older actually is sometimes better... and even with some computers ;=} As for Tiger 10.4.11, some stuff you may or may not want to know: Apple Updates for Multiple Vulnerabilities Original release date: Sep 16, 2008 http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA08-260A.html Apple Updates for Multiple Vulnerabilities Original release date: December 15, 2008 http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA08-350A.html Search of US CERT for Tiger 10.4.11 http://search.us-cert.gov/search?q=T...=0&btnG.y=0&bt... http://www.apple.com/downloads/macos...tes/macosx1041.... Compared to the MS OSs, there isn't much found vulnerability-wise, then again there aren't that many users either, so maybe some things aren't being found that should be... -- MEB MEB. I am currently running Panther 10.3.9 on my iMac G3/400. Even if I acquire a higher spec Mac with the Tiger install disks, the update process is fairly automatic. After installing Tiger 10.4, usually a screen comes up soon after offering all the updates to 10.4.11 usually in one pack, takes awhile to install but nothing after that unless some special security update happens. Usually any further updates are software specific (eg Firefox, Microsoft Office). Ken. Well, that's good to know. I don't have much experience even using MACs so all I can do is look at the available materials and wonder. There does seem to be some complaints on slowness of updates, then again there always is. On the other hand, looking at the comparative vulnerabilities in other Apple applications fills in ... read more » MEB. I never have a problem with the Mac OS updates. As far as using certain software on a Mac, I use Neo Office, a strictly Mac version of Open Office. Neo Office was written to use all the functionality of a Mac. If you get a chance to play with even an older Mac like my iMac G3/400, give it a good workout. I was skeptical at first, but once I got into it, it really grew on me. No hassles, that's the key. Ken. |
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