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network card driver issue
I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard
bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)? mc |
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On 01/24/2010 01:38 PM, mc wrote:
I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)? mc Couple things to try: First make sure to write down what your present settings are for your network and/or the adapter. Second, look he 3C905B - Microsoft Windows 98 - BIOS has not assigned an interrupt (IRQ) Code 29 - includes indications of other failures http://support.3com.com/infodeli/ino.../139ba_5ea.htm The above checks out okay but no fix, OR the fixes do not work or apply, then: Start to Safe Mode and look for multiple installed drivers in the System Network Devices; if so, un-install ALL of those drivers. Re-install using Normal startup. Restart again to Normal mode, re-install, shutdown-re-start and check to see if that took care of the problem. *IF not* then [after checking in Safe Mode and un-installing anything found] re-start to normal mode DO NOT INSTALL if Found New Hardware pops-up when starting, just close it. Go to Control Panel - Find New Hardware - and run through the process, install whatever it finds [noting anything else found]. Close, restart and see if that fixes your issue. *IF NOT*, then you may need to remove *all* of your Network from the Win98 machine and re-install. FIRST *un-share* any folders and/or drives and printers and/or other devices you have with your network on the Win9X computer. Control Panel - Networking - un-install everything, though first write down what you have and its settings. Do the restart and re-install needed devices, clients, whatever, and setup the network and shares again. RE-CHECK the System Devices for any ! errors. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |
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On 01/24/2010 01:38 PM, mc wrote:
I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)? mc Couple things to try: First make sure to write down what your present settings are for your network and/or the adapter. Second, look he 3C905B - Microsoft Windows 98 - BIOS has not assigned an interrupt (IRQ) Code 29 - includes indications of other failures http://support.3com.com/infodeli/ino.../139ba_5ea.htm The above checks out okay but no fix, OR the fixes do not work or apply, then: Start to Safe Mode and look for multiple installed drivers in the System Network Devices; if so, un-install ALL of those drivers. Re-install using Normal startup. Restart again to Normal mode, re-install, shutdown-re-start and check to see if that took care of the problem. *IF not* then [after checking in Safe Mode and un-installing anything found] re-start to normal mode DO NOT INSTALL if Found New Hardware pops-up when starting, just close it. Go to Control Panel - Find New Hardware - and run through the process, install whatever it finds [noting anything else found]. Close, restart and see if that fixes your issue. *IF NOT*, then you may need to remove *all* of your Network from the Win98 machine and re-install. FIRST *un-share* any folders and/or drives and printers and/or other devices you have with your network on the Win9X computer. Control Panel - Networking - un-install everything, though first write down what you have and its settings. Do the restart and re-install needed devices, clients, whatever, and setup the network and shares again. RE-CHECK the System Devices for any ! errors. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |
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network card driver issue
On 1/24/2010 4:01 PM, MEB wrote:
On 01/24/2010 01:38 PM, mc wrote: I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)? mc Couple things to try: First make sure to write down what your present settings are for your network and/or the adapter. Second, look he 3C905B - Microsoft Windows 98 - BIOS has not assigned an interrupt (IRQ) Code 29 - includes indications of other failures http://support.3com.com/infodeli/ino.../139ba_5ea.htm The above checks out okay but no fix, OR the fixes do not work or apply, then: Start to Safe Mode and look for multiple installed drivers in the System Network Devices; if so, un-install ALL of those drivers. Re-install using Normal startup. Restart again to Normal mode, re-install, shutdown-re-start and check to see if that took care of the problem. *IF not* then [after checking in Safe Mode and un-installing anything found] re-start to normal mode DO NOT INSTALL if Found New Hardware pops-up when starting, just close it. Go to Control Panel - Find New Hardware - and run through the process, install whatever it finds [noting anything else found]. Close, restart and see if that fixes your issue. *IF NOT*, then you may need to remove *all* of your Network from the Win98 machine and re-install. FIRST *un-share* any folders and/or drives and printers and/or other devices you have with your network on the Win9X computer. Control Panel - Networking - un-install everything, though first write down what you have and its settings. Do the restart and re-install needed devices, clients, whatever, and setup the network and shares again. RE-CHECK the System Devices for any ! errors. I tried the microsoft fix first, and it still did not load the drivers on initial start up, but loaded the drivers on the 2nd boot without re-installing drivers. I'll try the safe mode next but I'm not sure of what I'm looking for relative to the network drivers. Is this in the device manager where you click on the driver properties? mc |
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On 1/24/2010 4:01 PM, MEB wrote:
On 01/24/2010 01:38 PM, mc wrote: I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)? mc Couple things to try: First make sure to write down what your present settings are for your network and/or the adapter. Second, look he 3C905B - Microsoft Windows 98 - BIOS has not assigned an interrupt (IRQ) Code 29 - includes indications of other failures http://support.3com.com/infodeli/ino.../139ba_5ea.htm The above checks out okay but no fix, OR the fixes do not work or apply, then: Start to Safe Mode and look for multiple installed drivers in the System Network Devices; if so, un-install ALL of those drivers. Re-install using Normal startup. Restart again to Normal mode, re-install, shutdown-re-start and check to see if that took care of the problem. *IF not* then [after checking in Safe Mode and un-installing anything found] re-start to normal mode DO NOT INSTALL if Found New Hardware pops-up when starting, just close it. Go to Control Panel - Find New Hardware - and run through the process, install whatever it finds [noting anything else found]. Close, restart and see if that fixes your issue. *IF NOT*, then you may need to remove *all* of your Network from the Win98 machine and re-install. FIRST *un-share* any folders and/or drives and printers and/or other devices you have with your network on the Win9X computer. Control Panel - Networking - un-install everything, though first write down what you have and its settings. Do the restart and re-install needed devices, clients, whatever, and setup the network and shares again. RE-CHECK the System Devices for any ! errors. I tried the microsoft fix first, and it still did not load the drivers on initial start up, but loaded the drivers on the 2nd boot without re-installing drivers. I'll try the safe mode next but I'm not sure of what I'm looking for relative to the network drivers. Is this in the device manager where you click on the driver properties? mc |
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On 01/24/2010 07:51 PM, mc wrote:
On 1/24/2010 4:01 PM, MEB wrote: On 01/24/2010 01:38 PM, mc wrote: I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)? mc Couple things to try: First make sure to write down what your present settings are for your network and/or the adapter. Second, look he 3C905B - Microsoft Windows 98 - BIOS has not assigned an interrupt (IRQ) Code 29 - includes indications of other failures http://support.3com.com/infodeli/ino.../139ba_5ea.htm The above checks out okay but no fix, OR the fixes do not work or apply, then: Start to Safe Mode and look for multiple installed drivers in the System Network Devices; if so, un-install ALL of those drivers. Re-install using Normal startup. Restart again to Normal mode, re-install, shutdown-re-start and check to see if that took care of the problem. *IF not* then [after checking in Safe Mode and un-installing anything found] re-start to normal mode DO NOT INSTALL if Found New Hardware pops-up when starting, just close it. Go to Control Panel - Find New Hardware - and run through the process, install whatever it finds [noting anything else found]. Close, restart and see if that fixes your issue. *IF NOT*, then you may need to remove *all* of your Network from the Win98 machine and re-install. FIRST *un-share* any folders and/or drives and printers and/or other devices you have with your network on the Win9X computer. Control Panel - Networking - un-install everything, though first write down what you have and its settings. Do the restart and re-install needed devices, clients, whatever, and setup the network and shares again. RE-CHECK the System Devices for any ! errors. I tried the microsoft fix first, and it still did not load the drivers on initial start up, but loaded the drivers on the 2nd boot without re-installing drivers. Oh, then that may be the normal, the drivers must be "started" for them to work. Try again and see if they remain, if so, then you have fixed the problem to that point. You can still do the Safe Mode activity to ensure there are no potential conflicts or invalid entries. Though FIRST create a backup of the registry and save it somewhere other than the default location. I'll try the safe mode next but I'm not sure of what I'm looking for relative to the network drivers. Is this in the device manager where you click on the driver properties? mc Sort of. When you are in Safe Mode ALL the *supposed* drivers will appear under the Network adapters heading [unless USB or something, not in your case] in Device Manager under the various classes/headings. There you see if multiple versions or old [as in something previously used and removed/replaced] drivers/adapters exist. These were/are called "ghost" drivers which can interfere with installations or usage of same devices or other adapters. The multiples generally occur when numerous failed installations stack the entries/drivers causing the conflicts or system errors. *IF* they appear [you find them] then just remove them all and start over. Same is true of other driver areas where you might find multiple entries for keyboards, mouse, floppy and/or hard drives, or other entries [as in you have only one, and two or more supposed drives/adapters/whatever exist]. Avoid changing anything in the System/motherboard area since you are unfamiliar with it might need or contain. AND do NOT remove the default monitor if it shows under display. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |
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On 01/24/2010 07:51 PM, mc wrote:
On 1/24/2010 4:01 PM, MEB wrote: On 01/24/2010 01:38 PM, mc wrote: I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)? mc Couple things to try: First make sure to write down what your present settings are for your network and/or the adapter. Second, look he 3C905B - Microsoft Windows 98 - BIOS has not assigned an interrupt (IRQ) Code 29 - includes indications of other failures http://support.3com.com/infodeli/ino.../139ba_5ea.htm The above checks out okay but no fix, OR the fixes do not work or apply, then: Start to Safe Mode and look for multiple installed drivers in the System Network Devices; if so, un-install ALL of those drivers. Re-install using Normal startup. Restart again to Normal mode, re-install, shutdown-re-start and check to see if that took care of the problem. *IF not* then [after checking in Safe Mode and un-installing anything found] re-start to normal mode DO NOT INSTALL if Found New Hardware pops-up when starting, just close it. Go to Control Panel - Find New Hardware - and run through the process, install whatever it finds [noting anything else found]. Close, restart and see if that fixes your issue. *IF NOT*, then you may need to remove *all* of your Network from the Win98 machine and re-install. FIRST *un-share* any folders and/or drives and printers and/or other devices you have with your network on the Win9X computer. Control Panel - Networking - un-install everything, though first write down what you have and its settings. Do the restart and re-install needed devices, clients, whatever, and setup the network and shares again. RE-CHECK the System Devices for any ! errors. I tried the microsoft fix first, and it still did not load the drivers on initial start up, but loaded the drivers on the 2nd boot without re-installing drivers. Oh, then that may be the normal, the drivers must be "started" for them to work. Try again and see if they remain, if so, then you have fixed the problem to that point. You can still do the Safe Mode activity to ensure there are no potential conflicts or invalid entries. Though FIRST create a backup of the registry and save it somewhere other than the default location. I'll try the safe mode next but I'm not sure of what I'm looking for relative to the network drivers. Is this in the device manager where you click on the driver properties? mc Sort of. When you are in Safe Mode ALL the *supposed* drivers will appear under the Network adapters heading [unless USB or something, not in your case] in Device Manager under the various classes/headings. There you see if multiple versions or old [as in something previously used and removed/replaced] drivers/adapters exist. These were/are called "ghost" drivers which can interfere with installations or usage of same devices or other adapters. The multiples generally occur when numerous failed installations stack the entries/drivers causing the conflicts or system errors. *IF* they appear [you find them] then just remove them all and start over. Same is true of other driver areas where you might find multiple entries for keyboards, mouse, floppy and/or hard drives, or other entries [as in you have only one, and two or more supposed drives/adapters/whatever exist]. Avoid changing anything in the System/motherboard area since you are unfamiliar with it might need or contain. AND do NOT remove the default monitor if it shows under display. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |
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