PCI Ethernet

I have a PCI Ethernet card (PCI Bus 10/100Mbps) - Genica

I install the drivers 3 times and after the install Windows doesn't load on
the restart and defaults to the blue screen w/fatal exception error. I have
to enter Windows via safemode and I presently have the driver disabled as
the system won't load Windows until it has been disabled. I am installing
Window 98 drivers by browsing to the drivers 98 folder, etc...

Can anyone help... does anyone have this Ethernet adapter installed on their
Windows 98 puter?

Thank you, Star

Hi Rick,
Thx. for all the *good* info.

"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
"Star" wrote in message

I have a PCI Ethernet card (PCI Bus 10/100Mbps) - Genica

As per your other post, my Intel D865PERL comes with a built-in Intel
LAN 82562EZ that uses the Intel Pro/100 VE drivers that came with the
Driver CD that came with the board, which you can install a few different
ways - Full or Basic.

I have browsed and used the motherboard CD, and I saw no lan drivers to
install, my Pentium III had the lan support onboard. Initially, I have not
installed much, USB, audio, Sound Max, Sonic and some patches, etc...

Of course fix that Shutdown issue from your other post First, and then be
sure you have the right drivers for your Ethernet card, which, you can get
all kinds of drivers for your board at this link below, and the LAN
driver is on Page2 there down on #20 ..i presume is what you use.
(be careful of All that you choose to download and install from there)

Genica is a brand name used for their products, I went to their website
www.genica.com and I have the 788 model, they only have the 1 model. I
downloaded the zip file and extracted it to view and compare versions to the
floppy install disk that came w/my other driver CD's. Anyway, what I
downloaded was a replica of the install floppy, I did nothing of course.

I didn't tell you this when I went to Microsoft Update to get all my
criticals - one driver came up. AND... would you guess it was the driver
for the Ethernet and I got it. Microsoft installed this newer driver and I
had to put the floppy in and the CD install disk for Windows and the driver
base was created and it was time to restart. Total failure, Windows would
not load, I could not get out of the blue screen and finally had to restart
manually. I feel very luck because during the 2nd restart, I entered
safemode and disabled the newer driver, restarted Windows... and I was very
lucky all my criticals took, I went back and scanned my puter at Windows
update to make sure I had them. After. went to KB and downloaded shutdown
patch... it is uninstallable, so I did it. Haven't uninstalled it but it
hasn't helped in the slightest. Do you see standby option when you shutdown
via the dialog box, I don't have it available. I see ACPI features in D/M
Systems and they are working OK, but I don't seem to have access to advanced
power controls. Do you see hibernate option, advanced tab under screensaver
tab?

http://tinyurl.com/4vp4w

After you download #20 on that page, Don't install that exe, instead I
would suggest to Extract the contents of that exe, and then just use your
DM to update the driver pointing its locator to the subfolder called:
"pro_v8.0_65293_win98me\PRO100\WIN_98ME"
..which is inside the main folder you extracted ..and that way you only
need to install the basic LAN driver and not the whole fluff shabang.
~First though, I would absolutely suggest first to Uninstall the driver
that you already put in already just to remove it and start fresh. If you
at first installed the whole thing then it should show up then in the
Add/Remove in your Control Panel and so Uninstall it from there first if
listed there, otherwise from DM

Rick

Microsoft gave me a newer driver than the install floppy and the website.
I've never seen anything like this w/98-SE. If I uninstall it and restart,
of course Microsoft finds it and starts the install and after the machine
freezes at the blue screen. I just picked up my puter yesterday, not cheap,
but a good deal, and I guess I did good except for this ethernet adapter.
Curious, does your board support hyper-threading and it's dual channel,
correct. I can install and reinstall, but the driver I have now is the
newest from Microsoft Update, feeling real lost here!!

Star


I install the drivers 3 times and after the install Windows doesn't load
on the restart and defaults to the blue screen w/fatal exception error.
I have to enter Windows via safemode and I presently have the driver
disabled as the system won't load Windows until it has been disabled. I
am installing Window 98 drivers by browsing to the drivers 98 folder,
etc...

Can anyone help... does anyone have this Ethernet adapter installed on
their Windows 98 puter?

Thank you, Star

"Star" wrote in message

I have a PCI Ethernet card (PCI Bus 10/100Mbps) - Genica

As per your other post, my Intel D865PERL comes with a built-in Intel
LAN 82562EZ that uses the Intel Pro/100 VE drivers that came with the
Driver CD that came with the board, which you can install a few different
ways - Full or Basic.

Of course fix that Shutdown issue from your other post First, and then be
sure you have the right drivers for your Ethernet card, which, you can get
all kinds of drivers for your board at this link below, and the LAN
driver is on Page2 there down on #20 ..i presume is what you use.
(be careful of All that you choose to download and install from there)

http://tinyurl.com/4vp4w

After you download #20 on that page, Don't install that exe, instead I
would suggest to Extract the contents of that exe, and then just use your
DM to update the driver pointing its locator to the subfolder called:
"pro_v8.0_65293_win98me\PRO100\WIN_98ME"
...which is inside the main folder you extracted ..and that way you only
need to install the basic LAN driver and not the whole fluff shabang.
~First though, I would absolutely suggest first to Uninstall the driver
that you already put in already just to remove it and start fresh. If you
at first installed the whole thing then it should show up then in the
Add/Remove in your Control Panel and so Uninstall it from there first if
listed there, otherwise from DM

Rick


I install the drivers 3 times and after the install Windows doesn't load
on the restart and defaults to the blue screen w/fatal exception error.
I have to enter Windows via safemode and I presently have the driver
disabled as the system won't load Windows until it has been disabled. I
am installing Window 98 drivers by browsing to the drivers 98 folder,
etc...

Can anyone help... does anyone have this Ethernet adapter installed on
their Windows 98 puter?

Thank you, Star

ps.... sorry Star..

I just looked and if you have the plain D865PERL board then that does nOt
come with a built in LAN
Mine did because I bought the LL or D865PERLL retail box version which does.

If yours isn't the LL version and/or doesn't come with a built in LAN then
you'd have to look up what you have and research it for more info..

Maybe this is yours then.. ? ? ?
http://tekgems.com/Products/et-7850-net-gn-788.htm
...with a target download not working there - but it is he
http://www.genica.com/networking/drivers/gn788.zip

Rick

ps.... sorry Star..

I just looked and if you have the plain D865PERL board then that does nOt
come with a built in LAN
Mine did because I bought the LL or D865PERLL retail box version which does.

If yours isn't the LL version and/or doesn't come with a built in LAN then
you'd have to look up what you have and research it for more info..

Maybe this is yours then.. ? ? ?
http://tekgems.com/Products/et-7850-net-gn-788.htm
...with a target download not working there - but it is he
http://www.genica.com/networking/drivers/gn788.zip

Rick

Hi again Rick,
"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
ps.... sorry Star..

Yep, too bad for me, you have a deluxe board, more features than mine. I
bought mine retail from PC store, picked all the components, brand new from
shelf, picked my case, very sharp. I've noticed something unusal, not seen
this before in system properties, performance tab, instead of seeing that my
puter is configured for optimal performance, I see this...

Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system performance.
Drive C is using MS-Dos compatibility mode file system.
Drive D is using MS-Dos compatibility mode file system.

I read the basic help info and understand this degrades performance. Could
this have anything to do with my power off after shut down? Now, I have a
third problem. Hopefully, it will be easy to fix and the only immediate
bummer is a degrade in performance. I'm barely getting all my settings made
and I have not even hardly looked at my Radeon video control panel except
for immediate monitor settings, etc. DirectX 9 was on my video card, thank
you!! I have IE-6 and updates and my criticals and my anti-virus, but I have
so many settings and tweaks to do and I have given much time to shutdown
problems and the ethernet adapter. I do want to solve the shutdown problem.
You have the same Bios and I went into power, but there is not many settings
under that tab.

Did you install the Intel system monitor, do you recommend I install it?
What about Disk Lite s/w, disk defragmentation, are you using it, do you
like it...? I'm somewhat careful what I install

Thanks, Star

I just looked and if you have the plain D865PERL board then that does nOt
come with a built in LAN
Mine did because I bought the LL or D865PERLL retail box version which
does.

If yours isn't the LL version and/or doesn't come with a built in LAN then
you'd have to look up what you have and research it for more info..

Maybe this is yours then.. ? ? ?
http://tekgems.com/Products/et-7850-net-gn-788.htm
..with a target download not working there - but it is he
http://www.genica.com/networking/drivers/gn788.zip

Rick

Wow Rick, I just autoran the CD for the board, and I dug deeper cuz I saw no
lan drivers to install, and I see under system info and reprts this...
Device Type Ethernet
Device Description Intel 82562 and its disabled.

It's probably disabled because of the installed Ethernet card... the card
must be removed, correct... will this solve my problem, not quite sure, but
suspect? You had lan drivers to install, I don't see any lan or ethernet
drivers to install.

Star


"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
ps.... sorry Star..

I just looked and if you have the plain D865PERL board then that does nOt
come with a built in LAN
Mine did because I bought the LL or D865PERLL retail box version which
does.

If yours isn't the LL version and/or doesn't come with a built in LAN then
you'd have to look up what you have and research it for more info..

Maybe this is yours then.. ? ? ?
http://tekgems.com/Products/et-7850-net-gn-788.htm
..with a target download not working there - but it is he
http://www.genica.com/networking/drivers/gn788.zip

Rick

"Star" _xx wrote in message

Hi Star, first of all if that's a real email addy, fwiw, it is for you to
know that you should never use it in newsgroups or most places since you
have an infinite amount of Outside email harvesters (people and bots)
working endlessly to skim email addresses from ALL available public
newsgroups only to scourge you with forever endless spam junk email. Just
make up an address to use.

Hi Rick,
Thx. for all the *good* info.

"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
"Star" wrote in message

I have a PCI Ethernet card (PCI Bus 10/100Mbps) - Genica


I have browsed and used the motherboard CD, and I saw no lan drivers to

Find them in the folder on the CD:
Software\PRO_v8.0_65293_Win98ME\PRO100\WIN_98ME
...or get them from the link I gave you yesterday.

install, my Pentium III had the lan support onboard. Initially, I have
not installed much, USB, audio, Sound Max, Sonic and some patches, etc...

Of course fix that Shutdown issue from your other post First, and then
be sure you have the right drivers for your Ethernet card, which, you
can get all kinds of drivers for your board at this link below, and the
LAN driver is on Page2 there down on #20 ..i presume is what you use.
(be careful of All that you choose to download and install from there)

Genica is a brand name used for their products, I went to their website
www.genica.com and I have the 788 model, they only have the 1 model. I
downloaded the zip file and extracted it to view and compare versions to
the floppy install disk that came w/my other driver CD's. Anyway, what I
downloaded was a replica of the install floppy, I did nothing of course.

I didn't tell you this when I went to Microsoft Update to get all my
criticals - one driver came up. AND... would you guess it was the driver


I would never let ms WU or Any website install my drivers like that,
especially for W9x, but any really. Since you have built your unit from
scratch, you should be sure to manually obtain the latest of each and every
driver you have, and put them in a Drivers folder on your D drive and then
use your Device Manager to manually point to each one you need.


for the Ethernet and I got it. Microsoft installed this newer driver
and I had to put the floppy in and the CD install disk for Windows and
the driver base was created and it was time to restart. Total failure,
Windows would not load, I could not get out of the blue screen and
finally had to restart manually. I feel very luck because during the
2nd restart, I entered safemode and disabled the newer driver, restarted
Windows... and I was very lucky all my criticals took, I went back and
scanned my puter at Windows update to make sure I had them. After. went
to KB and downloaded shutdown patch... it is uninstallable, so I did it.
Haven't uninstalled it but it hasn't helped in the slightest. Do you
see standby option when you shutdown via the dialog box, I don't have it
available. I see ACPI features in D/M Systems and they are working OK,
but I don't seem to have access to advanced power controls. Do you see
hibernate option, advanced tab under screensaver tab?

http://tinyurl.com/4vp4w

After you download #20 on that page, Don't install that exe, instead I
would suggest to Extract the contents of that exe, and then just use
your DM to update the driver pointing its locator to the subfolder
called: "pro_v8.0_65293_win98me\PRO100\WIN_98ME"
..which is inside the main folder you extracted ..and that way you only
need to install the basic LAN driver and not the whole fluff shabang.
~First though, I would absolutely suggest first to Uninstall the driver
that you already put in already just to remove it and start fresh. If
you at first installed the whole thing then it should show up then in
the Add/Remove in your Control Panel and so Uninstall it from there
first if listed there, otherwise from DM

Rick

Microsoft gave me a newer driver than the install floppy and the website.
I've never seen anything like this w/98-SE. If I uninstall it and
restart, of course Microsoft finds it and starts the install and after


Again and again, imho, I would of not let WU or anyone choose and install
my drivers, especially online live like that. Obtain and do it manually.

Rick



the machine freezes at the blue screen. I just picked up my puter
yesterday, not cheap, but a good deal, and I guess I did good except for
this ethernet adapter. Curious, does your board support hyper-threading
and it's dual channel, correct. I can install and reinstall, but the
driver I have now is the newest from Microsoft Update, feeling real lost
here!!

Star


I install the drivers 3 times and after the install Windows doesn't
load on the restart and defaults to the blue screen w/fatal exception
error. I have to enter Windows via safemode and I presently have the
driver disabled as the system won't load Windows until it has been
disabled. I am installing Window 98 drivers by browsing to the
drivers 98 folder, etc...

Can anyone help... does anyone have this Ethernet adapter installed on
their Windows 98 puter?

Thank you, Star

"Star" wrote in message


Hi again Rick,
"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
ps.... sorry Star..

Yep, too bad for me, you have a deluxe board, more features than mine. I

Well after reading all your posts here I think I said sorry above too soon
I guess, but I had originally suspected since you went out and bought a
separate PCI Ethernet card that you knew what MB you bought and therefore
what was on it and if it had a built-in Ethernet or not -

It can be tricky to wade though the different run's of MB specs given for
each model number, and it is true that intel offered quite a few different
Retail/OEM scenarios for the D865PERL to cover all the money making
marketing requests. Here are some informative links of our board specs.
http://developer.intel.com/design/mo..._available.htm
&
http://www.intel.com/support/motherb.../cs-008963.htm
&
http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd/rl/index.htm
....which a person needs to have a discerning eye on which one you get and
want; which btw here is where I bought my retail LL version last year for
$108 with Free 2nd day shipping to my door:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...121-184&depa=0
&section=2

Anyway, in order for you to tell what MB you have may be tricky because if
you look physically at the MB ..even mine is stamped with only one L, and
without knowing what you are looking for on the MB, one of the only other
ways is to look on the actual Retail Box that your MB came in, and the Bar
Code tag will have a LL on it. Even using telling software like aid32 or
Everest only shows one L for the MB model number even though it's LL

bought mine retail from PC store, picked all the components, brand new
from shelf, picked my case, very sharp. I've noticed something unusal,
not seen this before in system properties, performance tab, instead of
seeing that my puter is configured for optimal performance, I see this...

Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system performance.
Drive C is using MS-Dos compatibility mode file system.
Drive D is using MS-Dos compatibility mode file system.

Well then as you have seem I'm sure you can check out these info's in no
particular order to see what relates to you, and be sure your CSI software
was installed first.
http://www.wintrouble.net/discus/mes...html?973963471
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q130179
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q134452
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q175629

Also to be sure!
First of all the first thing that I did with my new Intel MB bios was that
since Intel sets their retail bios settings to cover all universal OS
possibilities in the retail world (linux, etc) ..so they preset their bios
chip PnP setting to default NO, with the premise being that with it set
to No lets the BIOS configure all the devices in the system; and set Yes
lets the system configure Plug & Play (PnP) devices not required for boot
letting Windows work as it was designed taking care of the management of
device resources instead of your bios attempting to resolve any resource
conflicts, etc. My point is since we all know that Windows... and your
W98 is Plug & Play, you should set the bios PnP to Yes Before you install
your OS letting it perform PnP on its own as it was designed to do...
....yes it should work either way with pro's and cons for each way, but you
can bet mine is set to Yes..

Also, an extremely important consideration if you want to run W98SE on this
screaming board and processor you have, is that in order to get the full
capability of what it can do without limiting its functioning to work like
a slow turtle, absolutely you need to install a pci controller card
specifically because intel does not make an Application Accelerator for
w98 anymore new MB's, and so the Controller card is a must to take its
place, and I must say it does so with a much, much, desired improvement
over AA anyway so it would be recommended ..without either it is in
demanding situation less than half, or more, the speed it should be working
at. Older MB & Processors were fine but with the newer specs which are far
beyond what W9x was designed to keep up with and it in no way can without
the help of AA or much better yet a good Controller Card; the difference
with what you have now instead of running it through this card is
remarkable and must be seen to be understood and appreciated.
Use this one:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...102-007&depa=0



I read the basic help info and understand this degrades performance.
Could this have anything to do with my power off after shut down? Now,
I have a third problem. Hopefully, it will be easy to fix and the only
immediate bummer is a degrade in performance. I'm barely getting all my
settings made and I have not even hardly looked at my Radeon video
control panel except for immediate monitor settings, etc. DirectX 9 was
on my video card, thank you!! I have IE-6 and updates and my criticals
and my anti-virus, but I have so many settings and tweaks to do and I

I guess I'm a bit conservative and still have DirectX 7a on W98 along with
IE5.5 SP2 for myown p.o.m. with a better optimal performance instead of IE6
for 'W98' ..imho & experience, but this is digressing the subject.

have given much time to shutdown problems and the ethernet adapter. I
do want to solve the shutdown problem. You have the same Bios and I went
into power, but there is not many settings under that tab.

Did you install the Intel system monitor, do you recommend I install it?

No, but that's up to each individual.

What about Disk Lite s/w, disk defragmentation, are you using it, do you
like it...? I'm somewhat careful what I install

No again for the Disk Lite thingy.
I installed no extras, and especially all the drivers I could I extracted
the exe's as mentioned before (especially the SoundMax drivers) which lets
me avoid installing the full fluff bell/whistles main program of each that
are not needed and imho is the cause of so many conflicts. I did not
install the full version LAN, Audio, etc, software given for my own reasons
and doing it manually picking what I wanted.

Find out what is your shutdown problem and get a handle on it before and
for when you do a fresh install of your OS, afterall, if you can shutdown
correctly could be problemizing all your install reboots hangs getting
things corrupted.

When you next do a new fresh install with that board be sure you have the
PnP set correctly first, and there is a rhythm and order to how you would
proceed from here; iow, imho right after letting SE install and Before
installing Any other drivers, first you need to install the:
~CSI utility (Chipset Software Installation Utility v5.000.1012) ...and
let it reboot, and then the rest in something like this order
~install 'basic' sound drivers via DM
~install all the 17 or so Windows updates manually from saved locally on D,
not via WU
~install your preferred version of IE and it's latest updates manually
again from D
~install Video Card driver via DM
~installed the W98SE USB.exe
~install the pci Promise Controller & drivers
~install the Ethernet LAN drivers via DM
etc, etc, etc..........

Rick


Thanks, Star

I just looked and if you have the plain D865PERL board then that does
nOt come with a built in LAN
Mine did because I bought the LL or D865PERLL retail box version which
does.

If yours isn't the LL version and/or doesn't come with a built in LAN
then you'd have to look up what you have and research it for more info..

Maybe this is yours then.. ? ? ?
http://tekgems.com/Products/et-7850-net-gn-788.htm
..with a target download not working there - but it is he
http://www.genica.com/networking/drivers/gn788.zip

Rick

"Star" wrote in message


Wow Rick, I just autoran the CD for the board, and I dug deeper cuz I

imho, I would never use that CD itself to install software.
I Always suggest to install drivers manually as to not give full reign to
the Intel CD which would install things at their whim and not yours or
mine. Copy the drivers to the D partition.

saw no lan drivers to install, and I see under system info and reprts
this... Device Type Ethernet
Device Description Intel 82562 and its disabled.

Arffff... Star, well first I have to give you credit for putting together
your own box so I won't ruffle you about this, but does you MB have a
preinstalled Ethernet already and you went out and bought a pci Ethernet
card when you didn't have to?

It's probably disabled because of the installed Ethernet card... the card
must be removed, correct... will this solve my problem, not quite sure,
but suspect? You had lan drivers to install, I don't see any lan or
ethernet drivers to install.

I know wording is tricky, and the words Ethernet LAN are and can be used
together or interchangeably - I just happened to refer to it as a LAN just
as Intel did... LAN just means (Local Area Network) and Ethernet just
means a type of Networking technology for Local Area Networks.

If you have the 82562 already built-in your board, then you will need to
Completely uninstall your other pci Ethernet card you bought, preferably
via Add/Remove.. shut down, and unplug that pci ethernet card, and then
boot back up and if you already have the built-in Intel 82562 Pro100, then
as mentioned previously, when prompted or do it manually from DM on the
Network Adapters tab highlight the Intel Pro100 and install drivers
pointing it specifically to the folder that you copied from Intel CD to
your Drivers folder on your D partition... ...and point it to the Driver
folder where you would keep called Ethernet LAN or something\
PRO_v8.0_65293_Win98ME\PRO100\WIN_98ME
...and from there it will automatically pick up the correct .inf to install
the drivers.

If I were you, I would start over and reinstall from scratch again, this
time getting all your drivers and ducks in a row this time, and have some
fun.

I hope you made multiple partitions on your hard drive, and on your D
partition is where you would make a Drivers folder, and in that folder you
will have already all the Correct specific drivers you want and so you
would never let the Intel CD install them, or whomever, so that you can
control your own destiny installing just what you want, by pointing each
driver request to that D:\Drivers\.... folder for all your needs which
makes it 'going forward' a drivers folder simplicity to keep track of and
manage.

Rick
........ps.. Star, you may want to consider maybe best to put any replies
all in ONE post from here on to save reading order sanity at this point
from now on.
*Take a day or two to absorb the info scattered in each post anyway.

Star


"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message
...
ps.... sorry Star..

I just looked and if you have the plain D865PERL board then that does
nOt come with a built in LAN
Mine did because I bought the LL or D865PERLL retail box version which
does.

If yours isn't the LL version and/or doesn't come with a built in LAN
then you'd have to look up what you have and research it for more info..

Maybe this is yours then.. ? ? ?
http://tekgems.com/Products/et-7850-net-gn-788.htm
..with a target download not working there - but it is he
http://www.genica.com/networking/drivers/gn788.zip

Rick