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Free Fire Wall for WinMe
Mart,
I actually resumed using ZA in the last year or two - after a very long absence! - albeit not on the main system, and it was fine up until a few months ago when they made it nagware. Now at every boot you get an ad for the full version (though I haven't tried it in a couple of months but I seriously doubt they've relented meantime). Whether or not a once-excellent product became flaky in the extreme long ago, the nagging alone is enough to stop me - or anyone else I know of - running it today. I guess they conclude that the model of inherent advertising by providing a well-respected free version either doesn't work or, I suspect more likely, the current owners simply don't hold with giving anything whatsoever away. Now they try to have the best of both worlds by making it a trial version thinly disguised as freeware - which I suppose is the definition of nagware, really! Shane Mart wrote: Cheers Shane, I included the link as several of my 'older' links have either now removed the download or the link has become dead. I only added it in case someone looks at these posts in a future life and hopefully at least one of the links might still work. Thanks for the update on Vista and 7 - saves me messing about. I gave up ZA years ago due to it "screwing the kit'n'kaboodle". It became a PITA. Mart "Shane" wrote in message ... Mart, Besides the pedantic point that I gave a link to Kerio 2.1.5 in the post Mike was replying to (not that there is any harm in more than one link! - but I do also mention that according to Secunia there are a couple of vulnerabilities in it - hardly surprising really and the point of which is that 2.1.5 is these days an 'on your own head be it' choice - so definately not a pedantic one), no, it doesn't work in Vista or Win7. It simply won't install. But if you have the machine to comfortably run either of those, the best modern freeware firewalls - Comodo and OnlineArmor - are not a problem. And they are, of course, regularly updated but without screwing the kit'n'kaboodle the way ZoneAlarm does. Shane Mart wrote: Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5 is still (as I write) available at :- http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...keriopf215.zip Always a good one and works fine on XP - if you feel you need it (Never tried it beyond XP but don't see why it shouldn't work in Vista or 7) Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Shane, To be honest I actually meant to say Kerio but the name went right out of head and I came up with Comodo instead. I know we differ here but personally I wouldn't bother with a firewall when running Win Me behind a NAT/SPI enabled router. -- Mike Shane wrote: I checked the requirements for Comodo earlier, Mike, and it only mentioned NT versions. Personally I'd use Kerio 2.1.5 still were I still running Me http://www.oldversion.com/download_K...all_2.1.5.html. According to Secunia there are one or two vulnerabilities in 2.1.5 that, of course, are never going to be addressed now, but my own feeling is if you're online with a 9x version today, you need to learn to type with fingers crossed anyway. I supposed AAH meant 'complicated' rather than 'completed' and wonder what *that* requirement is specifically. Of course one could still get versions of ZoneAlarm that support 9x, too, e.g. on oldversion.com, though I suspect they are more vulnerable than Kerio 2.1.5, today. I seem to recall you had the choice - not that I ever used it - to install ZA in a 'novice' configuration. Otherwise both require you to allow or deny access, and both in my experience had glitches that required 'expert'-ise to fix, though Kerio, if the config files had been backed up, was easiest to debuggerize. And I still have my batch that backed the config up every boot. I'll respond to your other replies on the morrow, Mike. I've been rearranging partitions (to put W7 back - purely out of boredom!). I have just finished resizing and now have 14 partitions on 2 disks and as Rosie has just announced her return, I'm going to bed! Shane |
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Have any of you tried Online Armor, that has a free version, well it did
when I bought my licence a couple of years ago, mine runs out in 7 days but as I've been using the built in firewall since last year I'm not going to be renewing. It is a pretty decent firewall and when it asks for permission to run something at least it tells you in English just what it is and not something cryptic that only a tech could understand. g -- Joan Archer http://crossstitcher.webs.com/ "Shane" wrote in message ... Mart, I actually resumed using ZA in the last year or two - after a very long absence! - albeit not on the main system, and it was fine up until a few months ago when they made it nagware. Now at every boot you get an ad for the full version (though I haven't tried it in a couple of months but I seriously doubt they've relented meantime). Whether or not a once-excellent product became flaky in the extreme long ago, the nagging alone is enough to stop me - or anyone else I know of - running it today. I guess they conclude that the model of inherent advertising by providing a well-respected free version either doesn't work or, I suspect more likely, the current owners simply don't hold with giving anything whatsoever away. Now they try to have the best of both worlds by making it a trial version thinly disguised as freeware - which I suppose is the definition of nagware, really! Shane Mart wrote: Cheers Shane, I included the link as several of my 'older' links have either now removed the download or the link has become dead. I only added it in case someone looks at these posts in a future life and hopefully at least one of the links might still work. Thanks for the update on Vista and 7 - saves me messing about. I gave up ZA years ago due to it "screwing the kit'n'kaboodle". It became a PITA. Mart "Shane" wrote in message ... Mart, Besides the pedantic point that I gave a link to Kerio 2.1.5 in the post Mike was replying to (not that there is any harm in more than one link! - but I do also mention that according to Secunia there are a couple of vulnerabilities in it - hardly surprising really and the point of which is that 2.1.5 is these days an 'on your own head be it' choice - so definately not a pedantic one), no, it doesn't work in Vista or Win7. It simply won't install. But if you have the machine to comfortably run either of those, the best modern freeware firewalls - Comodo and OnlineArmor - are not a problem. And they are, of course, regularly updated but without screwing the kit'n'kaboodle the way ZoneAlarm does. Shane Mart wrote: Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5 is still (as I write) available at :- http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...keriopf215.zip Always a good one and works fine on XP - if you feel you need it (Never tried it beyond XP but don't see why it shouldn't work in Vista or 7) Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Shane, To be honest I actually meant to say Kerio but the name went right out of head and I came up with Comodo instead. I know we differ here but personally I wouldn't bother with a firewall when running Win Me behind a NAT/SPI enabled router. -- Mike Shane wrote: I checked the requirements for Comodo earlier, Mike, and it only mentioned NT versions. Personally I'd use Kerio 2.1.5 still were I still running Me http://www.oldversion.com/download_K...all_2.1.5.html. According to Secunia there are one or two vulnerabilities in 2.1.5 that, of course, are never going to be addressed now, but my own feeling is if you're online with a 9x version today, you need to learn to type with fingers crossed anyway. I supposed AAH meant 'complicated' rather than 'completed' and wonder what *that* requirement is specifically. Of course one could still get versions of ZoneAlarm that support 9x, too, e.g. on oldversion.com, though I suspect they are more vulnerable than Kerio 2.1.5, today. I seem to recall you had the choice - not that I ever used it - to install ZA in a 'novice' configuration. Otherwise both require you to allow or deny access, and both in my experience had glitches that required 'expert'-ise to fix, though Kerio, if the config files had been backed up, was easiest to debuggerize. And I still have my batch that backed the config up every boot. I'll respond to your other replies on the morrow, Mike. I've been rearranging partitions (to put W7 back - purely out of boredom!). I have just finished resizing and now have 14 partitions on 2 disks and as Rosie has just announced her return, I'm going to bed! Shane |
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Heh. I mention it in the post Mart replied to me to! This is quite funny -
unless you're winding me up, though that would be funny too! Shane Joan Archer wrote: Have any of you tried Online Armor, that has a free version, well it did when I bought my licence a couple of years ago, mine runs out in 7 days but as I've been using the built in firewall since last year I'm not going to be renewing. It is a pretty decent firewall and when it asks for permission to run something at least it tells you in English just what it is and not something cryptic that only a tech could understand. g "Shane" wrote in message ... Mart, I actually resumed using ZA in the last year or two - after a very long absence! - albeit not on the main system, and it was fine up until a few months ago when they made it nagware. Now at every boot you get an ad for the full version (though I haven't tried it in a couple of months but I seriously doubt they've relented meantime). Whether or not a once-excellent product became flaky in the extreme long ago, the nagging alone is enough to stop me - or anyone else I know of - running it today. I guess they conclude that the model of inherent advertising by providing a well-respected free version either doesn't work or, I suspect more likely, the current owners simply don't hold with giving anything whatsoever away. Now they try to have the best of both worlds by making it a trial version thinly disguised as freeware - which I suppose is the definition of nagware, really! Shane Mart wrote: Cheers Shane, I included the link as several of my 'older' links have either now removed the download or the link has become dead. I only added it in case someone looks at these posts in a future life and hopefully at least one of the links might still work. Thanks for the update on Vista and 7 - saves me messing about. I gave up ZA years ago due to it "screwing the kit'n'kaboodle". It became a PITA. Mart "Shane" wrote in message ... Mart, Besides the pedantic point that I gave a link to Kerio 2.1.5 in the post Mike was replying to (not that there is any harm in more than one link! - but I do also mention that according to Secunia there are a couple of vulnerabilities in it - hardly surprising really and the point of which is that 2.1.5 is these days an 'on your own head be it' choice - so definately not a pedantic one), no, it doesn't work in Vista or Win7. It simply won't install. But if you have the machine to comfortably run either of those, the best modern freeware firewalls - Comodo and OnlineArmor - are not a problem. And they are, of course, regularly updated but without screwing the kit'n'kaboodle the way ZoneAlarm does. Shane Mart wrote: Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5 is still (as I write) available at :- http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...keriopf215.zip Always a good one and works fine on XP - if you feel you need it (Never tried it beyond XP but don't see why it shouldn't work in Vista or 7) Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Shane, To be honest I actually meant to say Kerio but the name went right out of head and I came up with Comodo instead. I know we differ here but personally I wouldn't bother with a firewall when running Win Me behind a NAT/SPI enabled router. -- Mike Shane wrote: I checked the requirements for Comodo earlier, Mike, and it only mentioned NT versions. Personally I'd use Kerio 2.1.5 still were I still running Me http://www.oldversion.com/download_K...all_2.1.5.html. According to Secunia there are one or two vulnerabilities in 2.1.5 that, of course, are never going to be addressed now, but my own feeling is if you're online with a 9x version today, you need to learn to type with fingers crossed anyway. I supposed AAH meant 'complicated' rather than 'completed' and wonder what *that* requirement is specifically. Of course one could still get versions of ZoneAlarm that support 9x, too, e.g. on oldversion.com, though I suspect they are more vulnerable than Kerio 2.1.5, today. I seem to recall you had the choice - not that I ever used it - to install ZA in a 'novice' configuration. Otherwise both require you to allow or deny access, and both in my experience had glitches that required 'expert'-ise to fix, though Kerio, if the config files had been backed up, was easiest to debuggerize. And I still have my batch that backed the config up every boot. I'll respond to your other replies on the morrow, Mike. I've been rearranging partitions (to put W7 back - purely out of boredom!). I have just finished resizing and now have 14 partitions on 2 disks and as Rosie has just announced her return, I'm going to bed! Shane |
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Now Shane, would any of this gang ever try to wind YOU up?
Mart "Shane" wrote in message ... Heh. I mention it in the post Mart replied to me to! This is quite funny - unless you're winding me up, though that would be funny too! Shane |
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Oops! Sorry Shane just been back to read the post and see it now, I must
have missed it when I skimmed over the post. g -- Joan Archer http://crossstitcher.webs.com/ "Shane" wrote in message ... Heh. I mention it in the post Mart replied to me to! This is quite funny - unless you're winding me up, though that would be funny too! Shane Joan Archer wrote: Have any of you tried Online Armor, that has a free version, well it did when I bought my licence a couple of years ago, mine runs out in 7 days but as I've been using the built in firewall since last year I'm not going to be renewing. It is a pretty decent firewall and when it asks for permission to run something at least it tells you in English just what it is and not something cryptic that only a tech could understand. g "Shane" wrote in message ... Mart, I actually resumed using ZA in the last year or two - after a very long absence! - albeit not on the main system, and it was fine up until a few months ago when they made it nagware. Now at every boot you get an ad for the full version (though I haven't tried it in a couple of months but I seriously doubt they've relented meantime). Whether or not a once-excellent product became flaky in the extreme long ago, the nagging alone is enough to stop me - or anyone else I know of - running it today. I guess they conclude that the model of inherent advertising by providing a well-respected free version either doesn't work or, I suspect more likely, the current owners simply don't hold with giving anything whatsoever away. Now they try to have the best of both worlds by making it a trial version thinly disguised as freeware - which I suppose is the definition of nagware, really! Shane Mart wrote: Cheers Shane, I included the link as several of my 'older' links have either now removed the download or the link has become dead. I only added it in case someone looks at these posts in a future life and hopefully at least one of the links might still work. Thanks for the update on Vista and 7 - saves me messing about. I gave up ZA years ago due to it "screwing the kit'n'kaboodle". It became a PITA. Mart "Shane" wrote in message ... Mart, Besides the pedantic point that I gave a link to Kerio 2.1.5 in the post Mike was replying to (not that there is any harm in more than one link! - but I do also mention that according to Secunia there are a couple of vulnerabilities in it - hardly surprising really and the point of which is that 2.1.5 is these days an 'on your own head be it' choice - so definately not a pedantic one), no, it doesn't work in Vista or Win7. It simply won't install. But if you have the machine to comfortably run either of those, the best modern freeware firewalls - Comodo and OnlineArmor - are not a problem. And they are, of course, regularly updated but without screwing the kit'n'kaboodle the way ZoneAlarm does. Shane Mart wrote: Kerio Personal Firewall 2.1.5 is still (as I write) available at :- http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...keriopf215.zip Always a good one and works fine on XP - if you feel you need it (Never tried it beyond XP but don't see why it shouldn't work in Vista or 7) Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Shane, To be honest I actually meant to say Kerio but the name went right out of head and I came up with Comodo instead. I know we differ here but personally I wouldn't bother with a firewall when running Win Me behind a NAT/SPI enabled router. -- Mike Shane wrote: I checked the requirements for Comodo earlier, Mike, and it only mentioned NT versions. Personally I'd use Kerio 2.1.5 still were I still running Me http://www.oldversion.com/download_K...all_2.1.5.html. According to Secunia there are one or two vulnerabilities in 2.1.5 that, of course, are never going to be addressed now, but my own feeling is if you're online with a 9x version today, you need to learn to type with fingers crossed anyway. I supposed AAH meant 'complicated' rather than 'completed' and wonder what *that* requirement is specifically. Of course one could still get versions of ZoneAlarm that support 9x, too, e.g. on oldversion.com, though I suspect they are more vulnerable than Kerio 2.1.5, today. I seem to recall you had the choice - not that I ever used it - to install ZA in a 'novice' configuration. Otherwise both require you to allow or deny access, and both in my experience had glitches that required 'expert'-ise to fix, though Kerio, if the config files had been backed up, was easiest to debuggerize. And I still have my batch that backed the config up every boot. I'll respond to your other replies on the morrow, Mike. I've been rearranging partitions (to put W7 back - purely out of boredom!). I have just finished resizing and now have 14 partitions on 2 disks and as Rosie has just announced her return, I'm going to bed! Shane |
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lol We wouldn't dare now would we Mart g
-- Joan Archer http://crossstitcher.webs.com/ "Mart" wrote in message ... Now Shane, would any of this gang ever try to wind YOU up? Mart "Shane" wrote in message ... Heh. I mention it in the post Mart replied to me to! This is quite funny - unless you're winding me up, though that would be funny too! Shane |
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Hello:
The most recent Matousec.com firewall tests ( http://www.matousec.com/projects/pro...ge/results.php ) also rank PC Tools Firewall Plus ( http://www.pctools.com/firewall/ ) and Outpost Firewall Free ( http://free.agnitum.com/ ) as 2 other excellent free firewalls (but not for Win ME, of course). Cheers, Jerry "Shane" wrote in message ... But if you have the machine to comfortably run either of those, the best modern freeware firewalls - Comodo and OnlineArmor - are not a problem. And they are, of course, regularly updated but without screwing the kit'n'kaboodle the way ZoneAlarm does. Shane |
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Hello:
There is also the Jetico Personal Firewall v1 which supports Win 98/ME and is available as freeware (but no longer supported) at: http://www.filebuzz.com/fileinfo/365..._Firewall.html . Version 2 of Jetico ranks well on the most recent Matousec.com firewall tests ( http://www.matousec.com/projects/pro...ge/results.php ). The Jetico Version 2 home page is at: http://www.jetico.com/firewall-jetic...onal-firewall/ , which contains a link to their support forums, which still has a (little used) v1 forum. Cheers, Jerry "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... If you're behind a router you probably don't need a software firewall - but there used to be this link.... (hunts.....) Ah! "Sunbelt does not support this (very) old version 2.1.5 of Kerio. There are several sites on the Net that allow its download, but these tend to change frequently. Do a Google Search on "Kerio 2.1.5" and you'll find a few." If you need a 'trusted source' - let me know, and I'll either put it back up on my site, or email it to you g -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk "AAH" wrote in message ... I am trying to find free version of Fire Wall for WindowsMe not very completed and compact in size? Thanks for help? |
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Hello:
I recalled reading that last year, on July 16, 2009, older versions of ZoneAlarm Free that supported Windows 98/ME stopped functioning correctly as Check Point did not renew the root certificates for these older versions. See the posting for July 2009 and later at: http://forums.zonealarm.com/archive/...p/t-63832.html . Cheers, Jerry "Shane" wrote in message ... I actually resumed using ZA in the last year or two - after a very long absence! Shane |
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