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Better than stepping on toes g -- Joan Archer http://crossstitcher.webs.com/ "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Nah - all it needs is one decent PC and a huge hard drive - Virtual PC does the rest (and makes it easy to recover from the inevitable faux-pas's (or is it faux-passes?? - or is that what happens when you get a slap in the face?) -- Noel Paton CrashFixPC Nil Carborundum Illegitemi www.crashfixpc.co.uk |
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"Smirnoff" wrote in message ... Is there still a free version of an AV product that supports ME with definition updates? If so, would be grateful for a link. This is 'Open Source' but fulfills your requirement: http://files.uberdownloads.com/softw...nti-Virus.html You can always 'uninstall' if you don't like it. Harry. |
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"webster72n" wrote in message ... "Smirnoff" wrote in message ... Is there still a free version of an AV product that supports ME with definition updates? If so, would be grateful for a link. This is 'Open Source' but fulfills your requirement: http://files.uberdownloads.com/softw...nti-Virus.html You can always 'uninstall' if you don't like it. Harry. Will give it a go, thanks |
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Apologies if I came across as unnecessarily abrasive at any point, Harry.
I've been getting the feelimg I was, though I'm too tired now to read back through and verify that. Anyway, no, all this is on one pc - as I suspect Noel may have said (but I'll know momentarily). Almost all the systems I'm running lately or have run are virtual machines. I actually tried installing some of the older ones to the real hard drives, but they simply won't anymore! 9x was never entirely stable on the 'this' computer - but since I rebuilt it (after frying the MB) not even Windows 2000 will install on it! Shane webster72n wrote: Hello Shane: At the time of my posting the 'names game' didn't occur to me. Since it does now, I shall respectfully regress and live with my choice(s). You must have quite an assortment of pc's at your disposal. It is always good to be in touch with you. Cheers, Harry. "Dave Lee Travis Bickle" wrote in message ... Oh yes, forgot to add: end of 2010 is the date supplied by Alwil to Jerry Martin as reported here a month or so ago (which I found by searching, i.e. if I'd seen the thread previously I might have realised Rocky T had contributed to it before informing him of what he knew before I did). Though the question then becomes which is better: to continue using a product that will be essentially pointless in just over 6 months or switch now to one that could still be getting def updates for years? With my situation it is different in that - apart from NOD32 being arguably a lot better than Avast! - it was paid for, so why not keep using it to the last? Though - while the 98/ME version of NOD32 v.2 not only still works perfectly well in Windows 95 (a quality now as rare as what comes out of the back of a rocking horse) let alone 98 and ME - I continue to run the NT version (of v.2) mostly to get the def updates for use in portable installations. It is a shame that those will end when the licence does, but it sure as home isn't worth the price *just* to keep an updated thumb drive installation. Stinger is not worth bothering with. I don't know why McAfee do, let alone the humble user. Their sdat scanner either run from DOS for FAT or from a BartPE (which can also be run from USB) for NTFS, can't be trusted after the recent McAfee FP debacle. It is nice to have something other than Sysclean, but Sysclean is pretty good - if you scan without cleaning, then interpret the results. Oh, look at the time! Toodle-oo! "HRH The Example John Smith" wrote in message ... "webster72n" wrote in message ... "HRH The Example John Smith" wrote in message ... "Rockytsquirrel" wrote in message ... Avast 4.8 still works on ME and does update several times a day.. Til the end of 2010, apparently. I tried it but it almost continually popped up notifications of the new build and as it wasn't immediately obvious how to turn that off, I uninstalled it. Not so sure about the end of 2010, and I don't have the problem with those notifications anymore since I renewed my registration. IMHO Avast is still the best. You haven't tried enough alternatives then, Harry. Incidentally it also caused problems in 2 or 3 of the systems I installed it on - on which I now have either NAV2002...or nothing. This is no longer anything to do with the interface, as I don't give an inverted dos about that when it is on a system I rarely use. btw I had only recently registered it, on account of the first key I used was out of date. Really, if you mean 'the best AV' you're seriously deluded. Personal preferences aside, Avast! shows the occasional good result in tests but spends most of it's time at or maybe slightly above mediocre - rather like AVG, which I used to swear by (as far as free AVs go), but I was never under the illusion it was 'the best'. While I still have a little time left on my NOD32 licence, I am migrating to free Avira - using it here in Windows7 as I type. Once you disable the nag screen it is pretty good (probably is *with* the nag too if you can stand that sort of thing). I am undecided as yet as to just how good Antivir is - though as with all of them it varies over time anyway. Certainly these days, though, I will go with the German product over the Czech products any day of the week. Rather like if any version of Linux was polished enough to stay on a primary here (I just tried Kubuntu 10.04 both on the metal and in VPC and neither stayed more than 5 minutes, failing as miserably as *buntu always does except for the too-easily pleased) it would be the originally-German openSUSE. Though I think Beemers and Porches are a variation on crepe. Harumph! |
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Noel Paton wrote:
Nah - all it needs is one decent PC and a huge hard drive - Virtual PC does the rest (and makes it easy to recover from the inevitable faux-pas's (or is it faux-passes?? - or is that what happens when you get a slap in the face?) I'm going to have to read this again when I'm awake. Atm you're just doing my head in! Shane |
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Noel Paton wrote:
ouch! Well, now the imploded status of my head is official! |
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"Dave Lee Travis Bickle" wrote in message ... Apologies if I came across as unnecessarily abrasive at any point, Harry. I've been getting the feelimg I was, though I'm too tired now to read back through and verify that. Anyway, no, all this is on one pc - as I suspect Noel may have said (but I'll know momentarily). Almost all the systems I'm running lately or have run are virtual machines. I actually tried installing some of the older ones to the real hard drives, but they simply won't anymore! 9x was never entirely stable on the 'this' computer - but since I rebuilt it (after frying the MB) not even Windows 2000 will install on it! After reading Noel's notes I was able to add 2+2 together. And no need to apologize, we go back way too far for that. But you frying the MB? How in the world did you manage such a feat? Anyway, a decent new MB isn't all that expensive, is it? If it weren't for the big water tub between us, I might have stopped by and help you with the repair work. I am sure you'll get it straightened out yet yourself, so you can install Win2000. You've got my complete moral support. Now I must find out who Dave Lee Travis Bickle Is or was. Chow, Harry. Shane webster72n wrote: Hello Shane: At the time of my posting the 'names game' didn't occur to me. Since it does now, I shall respectfully regress and live with my choice(s). You must have quite an assortment of pc's at your disposal. It is always good to be in touch with you. Cheers, Harry. "Dave Lee Travis Bickle" wrote in message ... Oh yes, forgot to add: end of 2010 is the date supplied by Alwil to Jerry Martin as reported here a month or so ago (which I found by searching, i.e. if I'd seen the thread previously I might have realised Rocky T had contributed to it before informing him of what he knew before I did). Though the question then becomes which is better: to continue using a product that will be essentially pointless in just over 6 months or switch now to one that could still be getting def updates for years? With my situation it is different in that - apart from NOD32 being arguably a lot better than Avast! - it was paid for, so why not keep using it to the last? Though - while the 98/ME version of NOD32 v.2 not only still works perfectly well in Windows 95 (a quality now as rare as what comes out of the back of a rocking horse) let alone 98 and ME - I continue to run the NT version (of v.2) mostly to get the def updates for use in portable installations. It is a shame that those will end when the licence does, but it sure as home isn't worth the price *just* to keep an updated thumb drive installation. Stinger is not worth bothering with. I don't know why McAfee do, let alone the humble user. Their sdat scanner either run from DOS for FAT or from a BartPE (which can also be run from USB) for NTFS, can't be trusted after the recent McAfee FP debacle. It is nice to have something other than Sysclean, but Sysclean is pretty good - if you scan without cleaning, then interpret the results. Oh, look at the time! Toodle-oo! "HRH The Example John Smith" wrote in message ... "webster72n" wrote in message ... "HRH The Example John Smith" wrote in message ... "Rockytsquirrel" wrote in message ... Avast 4.8 still works on ME and does update several times a day.. Til the end of 2010, apparently. I tried it but it almost continually popped up notifications of the new build and as it wasn't immediately obvious how to turn that off, I uninstalled it. Not so sure about the end of 2010, and I don't have the problem with those notifications anymore since I renewed my registration. IMHO Avast is still the best. You haven't tried enough alternatives then, Harry. Incidentally it also caused problems in 2 or 3 of the systems I installed it on - on which I now have either NAV2002...or nothing. This is no longer anything to do with the interface, as I don't give an inverted dos about that when it is on a system I rarely use. btw I had only recently registered it, on account of the first key I used was out of date. Really, if you mean 'the best AV' you're seriously deluded. Personal preferences aside, Avast! shows the occasional good result in tests but spends most of it's time at or maybe slightly above mediocre - rather like AVG, which I used to swear by (as far as free AVs go), but I was never under the illusion it was 'the best'. While I still have a little time left on my NOD32 licence, I am migrating to free Avira - using it here in Windows7 as I type. Once you disable the nag screen it is pretty good (probably is *with* the nag too if you can stand that sort of thing). I am undecided as yet as to just how good Antivir is - though as with all of them it varies over time anyway. Certainly these days, though, I will go with the German product over the Czech products any day of the week. Rather like if any version of Linux was polished enough to stay on a primary here (I just tried Kubuntu 10.04 both on the metal and in VPC and neither stayed more than 5 minutes, failing as miserably as *buntu always does except for the too-easily pleased) it would be the originally-German openSUSE. Though I think Beemers and Porches are a variation on crepe. Harumph! |
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Thanks for the thought, Harry. I fried the MB same as I did with the last
pc - playing with the BIOS. But this time was about a year ago and yes, a decent MB is cheap enough but as there were a couple of specs of the original I didn't like, I got a different one (which almost certainly necessitates replacing other components to match - which is an excuse to upgrade them too). Whereas for a decade I had a VIA chipset, now I have nVidia - inc. onboard graphics far better than the GeForce card that expired before the MB did and mainly why I determined to get a new MB which in turn, frankly, is what tempted me into playing with the BIOS, i.e. the risk of frying it was acceptable and I think I was counting on it. Not only do I now have SATAII controllers to go with the SATAII HDs that were already in there, I can run Aero without needing a seperate card, though the RAM limit is still 2G. The nVidia RAID is incompatible with DriveImage whereas the VIA's worked a treat, by which I mean DI could see the drive(s) from DOS, so I'm not using RAID any more - but being able to use SATAII data transfer more than makes up the performance loss and the backup regime I've instigated is better for having two seperate disks instead of two mirrored, and of course I have twice as much disk space available (though DriveImage from DOS cannot see beyond 137G - so you put partitions for holding stuff that doesn't need backing up, there). There is one fewer IDE controller, so I backed up certain stuff - such as my mp3 collection (of a year ago), and jpegs etc - to one of the PATA drives, zero-ed the other and removed them both (which makes room for a 2nd fan). I lose the useful option of having XP (and/or any other OS) on a PATA drive disabled in the BIOS. I used to turn the computer off, leave it off for a good few minutes, turn it back on and go straight into the BIOS, enable that PATA controller and boot to this 'hidden' OS and scan the disks in everyday use from that. Even if I had the old HDs in there still, my DVD-RAM is PATA. Previously I could disable one controller and leave the other enabled. Now to have a PATA HD in there disabled by default I would have to buy another DVD burner, though maybe that is not such a bad option (except that I'd rather build another pc than continue upgrading this one). Currently - though it is a limited solution - I have an encrypted XP installation on the 2nd disk. Shane webster72n wrote: "Dave Lee Travis Bickle" wrote in message ... Apologies if I came across as unnecessarily abrasive at any point, Harry. I've been getting the feelimg I was, though I'm too tired now to read back through and verify that. Anyway, no, all this is on one pc - as I suspect Noel may have said (but I'll know momentarily). Almost all the systems I'm running lately or have run are virtual machines. I actually tried installing some of the older ones to the real hard drives, but they simply won't anymore! 9x was never entirely stable on the 'this' computer - but since I rebuilt it (after frying the MB) not even Windows 2000 will install on it! After reading Noel's notes I was able to add 2+2 together. And no need to apologize, we go back way too far for that. But you frying the MB? How in the world did you manage such a feat? Anyway, a decent new MB isn't all that expensive, is it? If it weren't for the big water tub between us, I might have stopped by and help you with the repair work. I am sure you'll get it straightened out yet yourself, so you can install Win2000. You've got my complete moral support. Now I must find out who Dave Lee Travis Bickle Is or was. Chow, Harry. Shane webster72n wrote: Hello Shane: At the time of my posting the 'names game' didn't occur to me. Since it does now, I shall respectfully regress and live with my choice(s). You must have quite an assortment of pc's at your disposal. It is always good to be in touch with you. Cheers, Harry. "Dave Lee Travis Bickle" wrote in message ... Oh yes, forgot to add: end of 2010 is the date supplied by Alwil to Jerry Martin as reported here a month or so ago (which I found by searching, i.e. if I'd seen the thread previously I might have realised Rocky T had contributed to it before informing him of what he knew before I did). Though the question then becomes which is better: to continue using a product that will be essentially pointless in just over 6 months or switch now to one that could still be getting def updates for years? With my situation it is different in that - apart from NOD32 being arguably a lot better than Avast! - it was paid for, so why not keep using it to the last? Though - while the 98/ME version of NOD32 v.2 not only still works perfectly well in Windows 95 (a quality now as rare as what comes out of the back of a rocking horse) let alone 98 and ME - I continue to run the NT version (of v.2) mostly to get the def updates for use in portable installations. It is a shame that those will end when the licence does, but it sure as home isn't worth the price *just* to keep an updated thumb drive installation. Stinger is not worth bothering with. I don't know why McAfee do, let alone the humble user. Their sdat scanner either run from DOS for FAT or from a BartPE (which can also be run from USB) for NTFS, can't be trusted after the recent McAfee FP debacle. It is nice to have something other than Sysclean, but Sysclean is pretty good - if you scan without cleaning, then interpret the results. Oh, look at the time! Toodle-oo! "HRH The Example John Smith" wrote in message ... "webster72n" wrote in message ... "HRH The Example John Smith" wrote in message ... "Rockytsquirrel" wrote in message ... Avast 4.8 still works on ME and does update several times a day.. Til the end of 2010, apparently. I tried it but it almost continually popped up notifications of the new build and as it wasn't immediately obvious how to turn that off, I uninstalled it. Not so sure about the end of 2010, and I don't have the problem with those notifications anymore since I renewed my registration. IMHO Avast is still the best. You haven't tried enough alternatives then, Harry. Incidentally it also caused problems in 2 or 3 of the systems I installed it on - on which I now have either NAV2002...or nothing. This is no longer anything to do with the interface, as I don't give an inverted dos about that when it is on a system I rarely use. btw I had only recently registered it, on account of the first key I used was out of date. Really, if you mean 'the best AV' you're seriously deluded. Personal preferences aside, Avast! shows the occasional good result in tests but spends most of it's time at or maybe slightly above mediocre - rather like AVG, which I used to swear by (as far as free AVs go), but I was never under the illusion it was 'the best'. While I still have a little time left on my NOD32 licence, I am migrating to free Avira - using it here in Windows7 as I type. Once you disable the nag screen it is pretty good (probably is *with* the nag too if you can stand that sort of thing). I am undecided as yet as to just how good Antivir is - though as with all of them it varies over time anyway. Certainly these days, though, I will go with the German product over the Czech products any day of the week. Rather like if any version of Linux was polished enough to stay on a primary here (I just tried Kubuntu 10.04 both on the metal and in VPC and neither stayed more than 5 minutes, failing as miserably as *buntu always does except for the too-easily pleased) it would be the originally-German openSUSE. Though I think Beemers and Porches are a variation on crepe. Harumph! |
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Oh, yes. Windows 2000 won't install on the new board. It is almost certainly
due to the HCL not matching enough of the H. The installation hangs. Dave Lee Travis Bickle wrote: Thanks for the thought, Harry. I fried the MB same as I did with the last pc - playing with the BIOS. But this time was about a year ago and yes, a decent MB is cheap enough but as there were a couple of specs of the original I didn't like, I got a different one (which almost certainly necessitates replacing other components to match - which is an excuse to upgrade them too). Whereas for a decade I had a VIA chipset, now I have nVidia - inc. onboard graphics far better than the GeForce card that expired before the MB did and mainly why I determined to get a new MB which in turn, frankly, is what tempted me into playing with the BIOS, i.e. the risk of frying it was acceptable and I think I was counting on it. Not only do I now have SATAII controllers to go with the SATAII HDs that were already in there, I can run Aero without needing a seperate card, though the RAM limit is still 2G. The nVidia RAID is incompatible with DriveImage whereas the VIA's worked a treat, by which I mean DI could see the drive(s) from DOS, so I'm not using RAID any more - but being able to use SATAII data transfer more than makes up the performance loss and the backup regime I've instigated is better for having two seperate disks instead of two mirrored, and of course I have twice as much disk space available (though DriveImage from DOS cannot see beyond 137G - so you put partitions for holding stuff that doesn't need backing up, there). There is one fewer IDE controller, so I backed up certain stuff - such as my mp3 collection (of a year ago), and jpegs etc - to one of the PATA drives, zero-ed the other and removed them both (which makes room for a 2nd fan). I lose the useful option of having XP (and/or any other OS) on a PATA drive disabled in the BIOS. I used to turn the computer off, leave it off for a good few minutes, turn it back on and go straight into the BIOS, enable that PATA controller and boot to this 'hidden' OS and scan the disks in everyday use from that. Even if I had the old HDs in there still, my DVD-RAM is PATA. Previously I could disable one controller and leave the other enabled. Now to have a PATA HD in there disabled by default I would have to buy another DVD burner, though maybe that is not such a bad option (except that I'd rather build another pc than continue upgrading this one). Currently - though it is a limited solution - I have an encrypted XP installation on the 2nd disk. Shane webster72n wrote: "Dave Lee Travis Bickle" wrote in message ... Apologies if I came across as unnecessarily abrasive at any point, Harry. I've been getting the feelimg I was, though I'm too tired now to read back through and verify that. Anyway, no, all this is on one pc - as I suspect Noel may have said (but I'll know momentarily). Almost all the systems I'm running lately or have run are virtual machines. I actually tried installing some of the older ones to the real hard drives, but they simply won't anymore! 9x was never entirely stable on the 'this' computer - but since I rebuilt it (after frying the MB) not even Windows 2000 will install on it! After reading Noel's notes I was able to add 2+2 together. And no need to apologize, we go back way too far for that. But you frying the MB? How in the world did you manage such a feat? Anyway, a decent new MB isn't all that expensive, is it? If it weren't for the big water tub between us, I might have stopped by and help you with the repair work. I am sure you'll get it straightened out yet yourself, so you can install Win2000. You've got my complete moral support. Now I must find out who Dave Lee Travis Bickle Is or was. Chow, Harry. Shane webster72n wrote: Hello Shane: At the time of my posting the 'names game' didn't occur to me. Since it does now, I shall respectfully regress and live with my choice(s). You must have quite an assortment of pc's at your disposal. It is always good to be in touch with you. Cheers, Harry. "Dave Lee Travis Bickle" wrote in message ... Oh yes, forgot to add: end of 2010 is the date supplied by Alwil to Jerry Martin as reported here a month or so ago (which I found by searching, i.e. if I'd seen the thread previously I might have realised Rocky T had contributed to it before informing him of what he knew before I did). Though the question then becomes which is better: to continue using a product that will be essentially pointless in just over 6 months or switch now to one that could still be getting def updates for years? With my situation it is different in that - apart from NOD32 being arguably a lot better than Avast! - it was paid for, so why not keep using it to the last? Though - while the 98/ME version of NOD32 v.2 not only still works perfectly well in Windows 95 (a quality now as rare as what comes out of the back of a rocking horse) let alone 98 and ME - I continue to run the NT version (of v.2) mostly to get the def updates for use in portable installations. It is a shame that those will end when the licence does, but it sure as home isn't worth the price *just* to keep an updated thumb drive installation. Stinger is not worth bothering with. I don't know why McAfee do, let alone the humble user. Their sdat scanner either run from DOS for FAT or from a BartPE (which can also be run from USB) for NTFS, can't be trusted after the recent McAfee FP debacle. It is nice to have something other than Sysclean, but Sysclean is pretty good - if you scan without cleaning, then interpret the results. Oh, look at the time! Toodle-oo! "HRH The Example John Smith" wrote in message ... "webster72n" wrote in message ... "HRH The Example John Smith" wrote in message ... "Rockytsquirrel" wrote in message ... Avast 4.8 still works on ME and does update several times a day.. Til the end of 2010, apparently. I tried it but it almost continually popped up notifications of the new build and as it wasn't immediately obvious how to turn that off, I uninstalled it. Not so sure about the end of 2010, and I don't have the problem with those notifications anymore since I renewed my registration. IMHO Avast is still the best. You haven't tried enough alternatives then, Harry. Incidentally it also caused problems in 2 or 3 of the systems I installed it on - on which I now have either NAV2002...or nothing. This is no longer anything to do with the interface, as I don't give an inverted dos about that when it is on a system I rarely use. btw I had only recently registered it, on account of the first key I used was out of date. Really, if you mean 'the best AV' you're seriously deluded. Personal preferences aside, Avast! shows the occasional good result in tests but spends most of it's time at or maybe slightly above mediocre - rather like AVG, which I used to swear by (as far as free AVs go), but I was never under the illusion it was 'the best'. While I still have a little time left on my NOD32 licence, I am migrating to free Avira - using it here in Windows7 as I type. Once you disable the nag screen it is pretty good (probably is *with* the nag too if you can stand that sort of thing). I am undecided as yet as to just how good Antivir is - though as with all of them it varies over time anyway. Certainly these days, though, I will go with the German product over the Czech products any day of the week. Rather like if any version of Linux was polished enough to stay on a primary here (I just tried Kubuntu 10.04 both on the metal and in VPC and neither stayed more than 5 minutes, failing as miserably as *buntu always does except for the too-easily pleased) it would be the originally-German openSUSE. Though I think Beemers and Porches are a variation on crepe. Harumph! |
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