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  #51  
Old September 12th 19, 04:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Rene Lamontagne
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Default A screen question.

On 2019-09-11 9:56 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 8:49 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 9:02 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 7:37 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 8:23 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 3:10 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 3:58 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 2:01 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 2:46 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 10:34 AM, Rabid Robot wrote:
On 2019-09-11 11:23 a.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 10:09 a.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 8:49 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
I don't know if I have mentioned this in this thread, but here
is a
very
useful utility to change individual font sizes.

Are you referring to Advanced System Font Size Changer?

I have that installed on my W10 system, but of course, does
nothing
for text you've entered into a word processor, for instance.

I've noticed that sometimes, when you switch to different
fonts,
the
design of the font will no longer fit into a field that you
populate.

Both of these problems are solved with out any tweaking by
simply
lowering the screen resolution.Â* But as I mentioned, you do
need a
larger monitor, unless you already own one.


Yes, and yes it has some drawbacks and is only helpful for
certain
things.
I had a 23" IPS monitor but due to my very poor eyesight I have
now
switched to a 27" Asus IPS which helps a lot
I suffer from Albinism, astigmatism and Nystagmus Which gives me
about
20/240 with my glasses on I don't know what it is without
glasses.
I look at my monitor from a distance of about 6 inches so it
involves a
lot of head swiveling, but I manage.

My condolences, that can't be the most fun reading experience.
Nice to
see that you're managing through it.

Rene is a perfect example of the type of folks I'm trying to find
ways
to help them view a computer screen.Â* So, I'm hoping Rene isn't
getting
a bit frustrated with the questions I'm pestering him with.



Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Not at all Ken, by the way, in Windows 10 Ease Of access
we now
have a
means of altering text size with one slider.
Also altering the size and color of the cursor, which is a great
help.

I've seen the slider, and wonder if that doesn't replace the 100%,
125%,
and 150% settings.Â* The slider is on my to do list for checking out.

As for the cursor, that's been around a long time.Â* I always set
mine,
and others, or extra large inverted.


This time the cursor size is also on a slider with infinite size
choice,
up to about 1 inch high(that's a little too big) :-)Â* I also use
inverted which makes it easier to find.

OK, I think you told me what connection you are currently using, and
what your options are, with the cables you have in hand.

But, I can't find that info.

I think Asus has the wrong info on their website.Â* If the native
resolution is 16:9, you should not have 1920X1200 in your list.
That's
the native resolution of my 24" 16:10 monitor.

Are you currently connecting HDMI to HDMI?

With the cables you have in hand, what are your other connection
options?

This whole thing is not "smelling" right, if you follow what I mean.



I am now running HDMI to HDMI

I have Dispklayport to HDMI cable
I have HDMI to VGA cable

Since My new build I am running AMD 5 3400g CPU with Vega 11 video on
CPU which gives me HDMI and Displayport outputs.

Drat.Â* I was hoping you had something that would take HDMI totally out
of the equation.

Got any friends with something you could borrow?


No,All of my friends are now all gone, I built my sons but his too has
only Display-port and HDMI, Everything seems to have swung in that
direction.


So, no VGA to VGA option either.Â* :-(

Well, I'm at a loss as to any other way to test for true resolution of
the monitor, after my experiences with HDMI.

My hypothesis is, if we remove HDMI from this equation, you'll get a
different list of possible resolutions, with 1200 being the default for
the vertical resolution.

What about an older build with other video output options?



Sold both of my older builds on Kijiji, since selling house and moving
into an apartment space is at a premium, unused stuff has gotta go.
Anyway it all works and seeing it doesn't do any harm I guess I'll just
leave it a mystery. Thanks for trying to sort it out.

Rene

  #52  
Old September 12th 19, 04:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default A screen question.

On 9/11/19 9:03 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 9:56 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 8:49 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 9:02 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 7:37 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 8:23 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 3:10 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 3:58 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 2:01 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 2:46 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 10:34 AM, Rabid Robot wrote:
On 2019-09-11 11:23 a.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 10:09 a.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 8:49 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
I don't know if I have mentioned this in this thread, but here
is a
very
useful utility to change individual font sizes.

Are you referring to Advanced System Font Size Changer?

I have that installed on my W10 system, but of course, does
nothing
for text you've entered into a word processor, for instance.

I've noticed that sometimes, when you switch to different
fonts,
the
design of the font will no longer fit into a field that you
populate.

Both of these problems are solved with out any tweaking by
simply
lowering the screen resolution.Â* But as I mentioned, you do
need a
larger monitor, unless you already own one.


Yes, and yes it has some drawbacks and is only helpful for
certain
things.
I had a 23" IPS monitor but due to my very poor eyesight I have
now
switched to a 27" Asus IPS which helps a lot
I suffer from Albinism, astigmatism and Nystagmus Which gives me
about
20/240 with my glasses on I don't know what it is without
glasses.
I look at my monitor from a distance of about 6 inches so it
involves a
lot of head swiveling, but I manage.

My condolences, that can't be the most fun reading experience.
Nice to
see that you're managing through it.

Rene is a perfect example of the type of folks I'm trying to find
ways
to help them view a computer screen.Â* So, I'm hoping Rene isn't
getting
a bit frustrated with the questions I'm pestering him with.



Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Not at all Ken, by the way, in Windows 10 Ease Of access
we now
have a
means of altering text size with one slider.
Also altering the size and color of the cursor, which is a great
help.

I've seen the slider, and wonder if that doesn't replace the 100%,
125%,
and 150% settings.Â* The slider is on my to do list for checking out.

As for the cursor, that's been around a long time.Â* I always set
mine,
and others, or extra large inverted.


This time the cursor size is also on a slider with infinite size
choice,
up to about 1 inch high(that's a little too big) :-)Â* I also use
inverted which makes it easier to find.

OK, I think you told me what connection you are currently using, and
what your options are, with the cables you have in hand.

But, I can't find that info.

I think Asus has the wrong info on their website.Â* If the native
resolution is 16:9, you should not have 1920X1200 in your list.
That's
the native resolution of my 24" 16:10 monitor.

Are you currently connecting HDMI to HDMI?

With the cables you have in hand, what are your other connection
options?

This whole thing is not "smelling" right, if you follow what I mean.



I am now running HDMI to HDMI

I have Dispklayport to HDMI cable
I have HDMI to VGA cable

Since My new build I am running AMD 5 3400g CPU with Vega 11 video on
CPU which gives me HDMI and Displayport outputs.

Drat.Â* I was hoping you had something that would take HDMI totally out
of the equation.

Got any friends with something you could borrow?


No,All of my friends are now all gone, I built my sons but his too has
only Display-port and HDMI, Everything seems to have swung in that
direction.


So, no VGA to VGA option either.Â* :-(

Well, I'm at a loss as to any other way to test for true resolution of
the monitor, after my experiences with HDMI.

My hypothesis is, if we remove HDMI from this equation, you'll get a
different list of possible resolutions, with 1200 being the default for
the vertical resolution.

What about an older build with other video output options?



Sold both of my older builds on Kijiji, since selling house and moving
into an apartment space is at a premium, unused stuff has gotta go.
Anyway it all works and seeing it doesn't do any harm I guess I'll just
leave it a mystery. Thanks for trying to sort it out.


You're welcome, Rene. I enjoyed the mental exercise.


--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.5
Firefox 67.0.4
Thunderbird 60.7
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #53  
Old September 12th 19, 05:32 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Eric Stevens
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Default A screen question.

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 23:13:33 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 21:01:13 -0600, Ken Springer
wrote:

When I see people with a decent sized widescreen monitor, and they use
it with windows maximised, I just want to cringe.


How then would you react to me with Windows spread over *two* 25" 3K
monitors? :-)

I think I know what you mean. When I encounter people who think everyone
else should do things the way they do, I similarly want to cringe.

I guess they just
never think there may be a better way to do things, so they get the job
done faster.


Either that, or they're doing things exactly how they want to do them.


--


Eric Stevens

There are two classes of people. Those who divide people into
two classes and those who don't. I belong to the second class.
  #54  
Old September 12th 19, 08:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Paul[_6_]
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Default A screen question.

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 9:19 p.m., J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Rene Lamontagne
writes:
[]
I have HDMI to VGA cable

[]
Although there's a tendency to call anything that goes between two
connectors a "cable" these days (such as "power cable" for laptops),
HDMI to VGA won't be what _I_ would call a "cable" - it'll have to
have some electronics in it. (And consume power, though that might be
little enough to use the supply on the cable.)


Possibly call them cable adapters.

Rene


There are passive adapters and active adapters.

A DVI-I to VGA is a passive adapter, because it uses
just wires to pass the VGA signals from DVI-I to the
VGA connector. The HDMI to DVI-D are similarly passive.

The HDMI to VGA on the other hand, is an active adapter.
I'm using one of those right now, on the other computer.
It draws +5V from a pin on HDMI, to run an HDMI to VGA
chip inside the adapter.

This is the year of the adapter. If you need active adapters
because your new video card has no VGA output, pick up an
adapter now, while the supply is good. I have an HDMI to VGA
and a DisplayPort to VGA, as examples.

There is still at least one card which has VGA native,
and that's the GT 710. It might even still have driver
support (a miracle). For the most part, newer cards
are missing VGA on the faceplate (which is why it is
the year of the adapter).

Paul
  #55  
Old September 12th 19, 02:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Mark Lloyd[_2_]
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Default A screen question.

On 9/11/19 10:55 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

[snip]

Could I ask you for a favor?

Would you set your screen resolution to the next lower resolution that
is listed in your screen display options, and let me know if it is any
help?

My monitors are 24", and switching from 1920X1200 to 1600X1000 works
well for me, and now I just never notice I'm not at optimum resolution.

"Optimum" is a crappy word to be used the way MS and the manufacturers
use it.Â* "Optimum" is what works best for the user.

I have a 14-inch laptop with 1920x1080 resolution, which makes the
letters too small. I set it to 1600x900, which has the same aspect ratio.

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  #56  
Old September 12th 19, 02:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jonathan N. Little
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Default A screen question.

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 9:19 p.m., J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Rene Lamontagne
writes:
[]
I have HDMI to VGA cable

[]
Although there's a tendency to call anything that goes between two
connectors a "cable" these days (such as "power cable" for laptops),
HDMI to VGA won't be what _I_ would call a "cable" - it'll have to
have some electronics in it. (And consume power, though that might be
little enough to use the supply on the cable.)


Possibly call them cable adapters.


DVI, HDMI, and DisplayPort have the same video signal with the exception
of HDMI includes audio channels and DisplayPort includes ultra-high
definition resolutions. VGA is a different signal and requires
conversion and is a major downgrade. My video card has 3 DisplayPorts
and one HDMI and since I am running dual monitors without DisplayPorts I
went with DisplayPorts to DVI cables. I don't use audio with crappy
monitor speakers. BTW 16:9 aspect is not 1920X1200 but 1920X1080



--
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
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  #57  
Old September 12th 19, 02:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default A screen question.

On 9/11/19 9:34 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 9:03 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 9:56 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 8:49 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 9:02 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 7:37 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 8:23 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 3:10 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 3:58 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 2:01 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 2:46 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 10:34 AM, Rabid Robot wrote:
On 2019-09-11 11:23 a.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 10:09 a.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 8:49 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:


snip

Sold both of my older builds on Kijiji, since selling house and moving
into an apartment space is at a premium, unused stuff has gotta go.
Anyway it all works and seeing it doesn't do any harm I guess I'll just
leave it a mystery. Thanks for trying to sort it out.


You're welcome, Rene. I enjoyed the mental exercise.


Having slept on this issue over night, would you want to try something
just for fun?

Try 1440X900, and see what you can do with that.



--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.5
Firefox 67.0.4
Thunderbird 60.7
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #58  
Old September 12th 19, 03:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default A screen question.

On 9/12/19 1:39 AM, Paul wrote:
There is still at least one card which has VGA native,
and that's the GT 710. It might even still have driver
support (a miracle). For the most part, newer cards
are missing VGA on the faceplate (which is why it is
the year of the adapter).


What do you find on a motherboard itself for integrated graphics?

--
Ken
MacOS 10.14.5
Firefox 67.0.4
Thunderbird 60.7
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #59  
Old September 12th 19, 04:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Rene Lamontagne
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Posts: 26
Default A screen question.

On 2019-09-12 8:59 a.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 9:34 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 9:03 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 9:56 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 8:49 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 9:02 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 7:37 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 8:23 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 3:10 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 3:58 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 2:01 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 2:46 p.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 10:34 AM, Rabid Robot wrote:
On 2019-09-11 11:23 a.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 10:09 a.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 8:49 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:


snip

Sold both of my older builds on Kijiji, since selling house and moving
into an apartment space is at a premium, unused stuff has gotta go.
Anyway it all works and seeing it doesn't do any harm I guess I'll just
leave it a mystery. Thanks for trying to sort it out.


You're welcome, Rene.Â* I enjoyed the mental exercise.


Having slept on this issue over night, would you want to try something
just for fun?

Try 1440X900, and see what you can do with that.




OK, that looks not bad but leaves about 3/4 inch black on each side.
Got a post from Mark Loyd a little while ago suggesting 1600x900 which
really works great, fills the screen fully and is 16:9, Wonder why I
didn't see it myself, I guess we just see what we want to see at times. :-)

Rene

  #60  
Old September 12th 19, 04:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ken Springer[_2_]
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Default A screen question.

On 9/12/19 7:57 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
BTW 16:9 aspect is not 1920X1200 but 1920X1080


This is what is puzzling to me.

If the monitor's aspect ratio is 16:9, why does Rene's list of optional
screen resolutions have 3 resolutions that are 16:10 aspect ratios?

I have 2 monitors with 16:10 aspect ratios. One attached to W10 (1903)
system, the other Mac Mojave.

Neither system offers me a 1440X900 option, even though that is a 16:10
aspect ratio.

It's quite the conundrum.

--
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MacOS 10.14.5
Firefox 67.0.4
Thunderbird 60.7
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
 




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