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Do you have any trouble getting newsgroups of an evening lately, Mike? Every
night (that I've tried it) for a week or two now neither msnews.microsoft -
nor news.tiscali - connects, from, say, 9pm through 11pm. I suspect it's
only Tiscali, maybe to do with their ongoing 'to the wall' process
(well-deserved - though I daresay it'll add to the unemployment in India)?
Or just their shoddy service anyway, which has been getting slower and
slower at peak times here over the past couple of years.

Shane


Mike M wrote:
Shane wrote:

They don't work very quickly, do they Mike!

No. I and others don't understand why maintenance of the NGs is so
poor and apparently under resourced - Monday - Friday working hours,
or so it seems. The best time to spam the MS NGs being on a Friday
evening Pacific Time as it will then normally hang around until the
Monday if not for ever.

I think what you are seeing is probably due to excessive lag caused by
contention. This is exacerbated by using string supplied by the Sardinian
mafia for your connection which can't cope with any sort of load.
--
Mike


Shane wrote:

Do you have any trouble getting newsgroups of an evening lately,
Mike? Every night (that I've tried it) for a week or two now neither
msnews.microsoft - nor news.tiscali - connects, from, say, 9pm
through 11pm. I suspect it's only Tiscali, maybe to do with their
ongoing 'to the wall' process (well-deserved - though I daresay it'll
add to the unemployment in India)? Or just their shoddy service
anyway, which has been getting slower and slower at peak times here
over the past couple of years.

Mike M wrote:
I think what you are seeing is probably due to excessive lag caused by
contention. This is exacerbated by using string supplied by the
Sardinian mafia for your connection which can't cope with any sort of
load.

lol! Yes, I expect they use the electronic equivalent of
past-its-use-by-date cement.





Do you have any trouble getting newsgroups of an evening lately,
Mike? Every night (that I've tried it) for a week or two now neither
msnews.microsoft - nor news.tiscali - connects, from, say, 9pm
through 11pm. I suspect it's only Tiscali, maybe to do with their
ongoing 'to the wall' process (well-deserved - though I daresay it'll
add to the unemployment in India)? Or just their shoddy service
anyway, which has been getting slower and slower at peak times here
over the past couple of years.

ROFL!!! I am not to bright until noon so started to read this as a
serious reply to a slightly deranged Shane.......until I hit the word
*string*.......bwa ha ha.

Mike, you are so *UK funny*.....lol. (meaning dry humour)

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
I think what you are seeing is probably due to excessive lag caused by
contention. This is exacerbated by using string supplied by the
Sardinian mafia for your connection which can't cope with any sort of
load.
--
Mike


Shane wrote:

Do you have any trouble getting newsgroups of an evening lately,
Mike? Every night (that I've tried it) for a week or two now neither
msnews.microsoft - nor news.tiscali - connects, from, say, 9pm
through 11pm. I suspect it's only Tiscali, maybe to do with their
ongoing 'to the wall' process (well-deserved - though I daresay it'll
add to the unemployment in India)? Or just their shoddy service
anyway, which has been getting slower and slower at peak times here
over the past couple of years.

UK "funny"! I was being serious! g

Tiscali, the ISP used by Shane, has its head office in Cagliari, Sardinia.
The one part of my reply that is probably false, is that it is run my the
mafia since I was under the impression that the mafia are to a degree
reasonably competent at what they do whereas those who run Tiscali, at
least in the UK, are probably some of the most incompetent individuals
around.
Where the mafia comes in is that Tiscali provide little more capacity to
their users than one would get if one was to use string to connect users
to their system. Similarly they hate to see their customers leave.

My first ADSL connection was with a company (WorldOnline) that was taken
over by Tiscali. I left them in 2003 only in 2005 to receive an invoice
for two years service, two years during which I had been with another ISP
to whose equipment my line was physically connected thus a physical
impossibility that I had been with Tiscali. Tiscali denied this and
continued to claim ever increasing sums for a further 15 months until
eventually I sent them a letter stating that I was going to start legal
proceedings against them at which point they decided to give up on me and
turn instead on their latest victim, Shane. :-)

Cheers,

Mike


Heather wrote:

ROFL!!! I am not to bright until noon so started to read this as a
serious reply to a slightly deranged Shane.......until I hit the word
*string*.......bwa ha ha.

Mike, you are so *UK funny*.....lol. (meaning dry humour)

My sister was getting increasingly threatening bills from E.ON - who she was
never with. This went on for months, despite the person she ended up
complaining to (on a regular basis) being apologetic almost to the point of
mortification (?). As far as I know it stopped in the end, but I sent her
the link to the recent story where the Court held British Gas responsible
for
harassment in a now-familiar tale:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02...bt_collection/ which everyone in
the land ought to know about, so that every time it happens there are
prosecutions, and thus it will stop.

Tiscali send me two spams a month (for the 2 email accounts I have - but not
for the LineOne account). There are the usual links for opting out, and
click them and nothing happens. Email them that you don't want them, but
they just keep coming anyway. Now I just save them as evidence. I'd block
Tiscali but for the offchance that they'd send something invidious (like
Tesco did) that amounts to a choice between staying on the same tariff or
getting a faster connection at more expense and which, if you ignore, they
automatically put you on the more expensive tariff. And claim that you're on
a new contract, so have to stay with them another year or pay a penalty.

I think Tiscali going under is hilarious! Unfortunately my having them
prosecuted for ignoring this customers wishes will make not a shred of
difference. But it's still hilarious!


Shane


Mike M wrote:
UK "funny"! I was being serious! g

Tiscali, the ISP used by Shane, has its head office in Cagliari,
Sardinia. The one part of my reply that is probably false, is that it
is run my the mafia since I was under the impression that the mafia
are to a degree reasonably competent at what they do whereas those
who run Tiscali, at least in the UK, are probably some of the most
incompetent individuals around.
Where the mafia comes in is that Tiscali provide little more capacity
to their users than one would get if one was to use string to connect
users to their system. Similarly they hate to see their customers
leave.
My first ADSL connection was with a company (WorldOnline) that was
taken over by Tiscali. I left them in 2003 only in 2005 to receive
an invoice for two years service, two years during which I had been
with another ISP to whose equipment my line was physically connected
thus a physical impossibility that I had been with Tiscali. Tiscali
denied this and continued to claim ever increasing sums for a further
15 months until eventually I sent them a letter stating that I was
going to start legal proceedings against them at which point they
decided to give up on me and turn instead on their latest victim,
Shane. :-)
Cheers,

Mike


Heather wrote:

ROFL!!! I am not to bright until noon so started to read this as a
serious reply to a slightly deranged Shane.......until I hit the word
*string*.......bwa ha ha.

Mike, you are so *UK funny*.....lol. (meaning dry humour)

PS I meant to include the following in my previous message.

From ThinkBroadband
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3...ings-2008.html)
dated 18 March.
Broadband Customer Ratings 2008
Arfur Daly ISP (aka Tiscali)
Customer Satisfaction 34% Reliability 46%
--
Mike


Mike M wrote:

UK "funny"! I was being serious! g

Tiscali, the ISP used by Shane, has its head office in Cagliari,
Sardinia. The one part of my reply that is probably false, is that it
is run my the mafia since I was under the impression that the mafia
are to a degree reasonably competent at what they do whereas those
who run Tiscali, at least in the UK, are probably some of the most
incompetent individuals around.
Where the mafia comes in is that Tiscali provide little more capacity
to their users than one would get if one was to use string to connect
users to their system. Similarly they hate to see their customers
leave.
My first ADSL connection was with a company (WorldOnline) that was
taken over by Tiscali. I left them in 2003 only in 2005 to receive
an invoice for two years service, two years during which I had been
with another ISP to whose equipment my line was physically connected
thus a physical impossibility that I had been with Tiscali. Tiscali
denied this and continued to claim ever increasing sums for a further
15 months until eventually I sent them a letter stating that I was
going to start legal proceedings against them at which point they
decided to give up on me and turn instead on their latest victim,
Shane. :-)

Thanks for that, Mike. At a quick glance that's going to be very useful!
I've thought before such a shame that O2 sponsor Arsenal. I'm not interested
in BT or Virgin, if all else were equal, because of Phorm and the like. I
don't think I'd go with Sky after having been subjected to their telephone
harassment (to get you back with them, presumably by wearing you down!).

Maybe I could go with O2 if a bus load of Arsenal supporters were driven off
a cliff. I don't suppose they'd do that though.


Shane


Mike M wrote:
PS I meant to include the following in my previous message.

From ThinkBroadband
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3...ings-2008.html)
dated 18 March.
Broadband Customer Ratings 2008
Arfur Daly ISP (aka Tiscali)
Customer Satisfaction 34% Reliability 46%

UK "funny"! I was being serious! g

Tiscali, the ISP used by Shane, has its head office in Cagliari,
Sardinia. The one part of my reply that is probably false, is that it
is run my the mafia since I was under the impression that the mafia
are to a degree reasonably competent at what they do whereas those
who run Tiscali, at least in the UK, are probably some of the most
incompetent individuals around.
Where the mafia comes in is that Tiscali provide little more capacity
to their users than one would get if one was to use string to connect
users to their system. Similarly they hate to see their customers
leave.
My first ADSL connection was with a company (WorldOnline) that was
taken over by Tiscali. I left them in 2003 only in 2005 to receive
an invoice for two years service, two years during which I had been
with another ISP to whose equipment my line was physically connected
thus a physical impossibility that I had been with Tiscali. Tiscali
denied this and continued to claim ever increasing sums for a further
15 months until eventually I sent them a letter stating that I was
going to start legal proceedings against them at which point they
decided to give up on me and turn instead on their latest victim,
Shane. :-)

Well damn......you are funny then without realizing it. It actually was
the comment about string (picturing 2 pop cans with string) and then the
Mafia that got me giggling. Having met up with that sort a few times,
trust me the ISP would be well run. (or was that "run out of town"??)

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
UK "funny"! I was being serious! g

Tiscali, the ISP used by Shane, has its head office in Cagliari,
Sardinia. The one part of my reply that is probably false, is that it
is run my the mafia since I was under the impression that the mafia
are to a degree reasonably competent at what they do whereas those who
run Tiscali, at least in the UK, are probably some of the most
incompetent individuals around.
Where the mafia comes in is that Tiscali provide little more capacity
to their users than one would get if one was to use string to connect
users to their system. Similarly they hate to see their customers
leave.

My first ADSL connection was with a company (WorldOnline) that was
taken over by Tiscali. I left them in 2003 only in 2005 to receive an
invoice for two years service, two years during which I had been with
another ISP to whose equipment my line was physically connected thus a
physical impossibility that I had been with Tiscali. Tiscali denied
this and continued to claim ever increasing sums for a further 15
months until eventually I sent them a letter stating that I was going
to start legal proceedings against them at which point they decided to
give up on me and turn instead on their latest victim, Shane. :-)

Cheers,

Mike


Heather wrote:

ROFL!!! I am not to bright until noon so started to read this as a
serious reply to a slightly deranged Shane.......until I hit the word
*string*.......bwa ha ha.

Mike, you are so *UK funny*.....lol. (meaning dry humour)

You wouldn't get me back with BT if you paid me g OK I know I could
probably get cheaper ADSL but I never have any problems and very rarely lose
connection and if I do usually a reboot of the router puts things right
again. If there are any questions I don't pay a premium number to get
answers just phone my local computer shop, which doesn't cost me anything,
and harass them, it soon gets sorted. g
Can't really do a comparison though as my supplier is not listed.

BT don't phone me to get me back but they do send the occasional letter or
pamphlet out telling me now that the special offer period has finished they
expect I don't find my new supplier are quite so cheap vbg and they're
sure I'd be only to glad to go back to them, this is the phone line not the
broadband by the way, even their cheapest option is dearer than I'm paying
with more features than they offer g

--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher
http://lachsoft.com/photogallery

"Shane" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that, Mike. At a quick glance that's going to be very useful!
I've thought before such a shame that O2 sponsor Arsenal. I'm not
interested in BT or Virgin, if all else were equal, because of Phorm and
the like. I don't think I'd go with Sky after having been subjected to
their telephone harassment (to get you back with them, presumably by
wearing you down!).

Maybe I could go with O2 if a bus load of Arsenal supporters were driven
off a cliff. I don't suppose they'd do that though.


Shane


Mike M wrote:
PS I meant to include the following in my previous message.

From ThinkBroadband
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3...ings-2008.html)
dated 18 March.
Broadband Customer Ratings 2008
Arfur Daly ISP (aka Tiscali)
Customer Satisfaction 34% Reliability 46%

UK "funny"! I was being serious! g

Tiscali, the ISP used by Shane, has its head office in Cagliari,
Sardinia. The one part of my reply that is probably false, is that it
is run my the mafia since I was under the impression that the mafia
are to a degree reasonably competent at what they do whereas those
who run Tiscali, at least in the UK, are probably some of the most
incompetent individuals around.
Where the mafia comes in is that Tiscali provide little more capacity
to their users than one would get if one was to use string to connect
users to their system. Similarly they hate to see their customers
leave.
My first ADSL connection was with a company (WorldOnline) that was
taken over by Tiscali. I left them in 2003 only in 2005 to receive
an invoice for two years service, two years during which I had been
with another ISP to whose equipment my line was physically connected
thus a physical impossibility that I had been with Tiscali. Tiscali
denied this and continued to claim ever increasing sums for a further
15 months until eventually I sent them a letter stating that I was
going to start legal proceedings against them at which point they
decided to give up on me and turn instead on their latest victim,
Shane. :-)