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Hello Brian, some odd things going on
I cannot see a way to process my startup device drivers, nor process the startup command file which I am to set to no, but do not the options I cann set the Load Windows drivers switch to yes or no - but that does not help also brian 'new news i have no autoexec or config files with data that is the files do exist - but they are both blank I used edit c:\autoexec.bat and config. sys and there is NOTHING inside of either file !! How Do I recreat what was there ?? and also no bootlog file can be found anywhere I have turned the logging on - but I cannot access any file with that name on my c drive and its subdirectories ! I await your sage advice !! |
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"Ralph Jaggi" wrote in
: Hello Brian, some odd things going on I cannot see a way to process my startup device drivers, nor process the startup command file which I am to set to no, but do not the options I cann set the Load Windows drivers switch to yes or no - but that does not help also brian 'new news i have no autoexec or config files with data that is the files do exist - but they are both blank I used edit c:\autoexec.bat and config. sys and there is NOTHING inside of either file !! How Do I recreat what was there ?? and also no bootlog file can be found anywhere I have turned the logging on - but I cannot access any file with that name on my c drive and its subdirectories ! I await your sage advice !! I am not "Brian" but what the hell are you talking about? -- -- What happens if you get scared half to death twice? -- |
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No Info in Cofig.sys or Autoexec.
Its usually smarter to respond in the same thread, instead of making a new
one. Some advice based on what little I understand in your response, and not knowing what the original issues or Brian's advice was. Config.sys and Autoexec.bat are not required to have any contents. Zero byte is fine. They are there for software installs that expect to write to either file. Set up windows explorer to view all files including hidden files. Bang the heck out of the F8 key just after the bios finishes its routine and prior to window starting. You'll be provided with various boot choice methods for windows. Guessing Brian wants to know if there's any offending driver not loading from bootlog.txt which is hidden. "Ralph Jaggi" wrote in message ... Hello Brian, some odd things going on I cannot see a way to process my startup device drivers, nor process the startup command file which I am to set to no, but do not the options I cann set the Load Windows drivers switch to yes or no - but that does not help also brian 'new news i have no autoexec or config files with data that is the files do exist - but they are both blank I used edit c:\autoexec.bat and config. sys and there is NOTHING inside of either file !! How Do I recreat what was there ?? and also no bootlog file can be found anywhere I have turned the logging on - but I cannot access any file with that name on my c drive and its subdirectories ! I await your sage advice !! |
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An alternative (and easier) to banging on the F8 key is to hold down the CTRL key
during the boot process. On most machines, this will bring up the boot menu for Windows 98 -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lil' Dave" wrote in message ... Its usually smarter to respond in the same thread, instead of making a new one. Some advice based on what little I understand in your response, and not knowing what the original issues or Brian's advice was. Config.sys and Autoexec.bat are not required to have any contents. Zero byte is fine. They are there for software installs that expect to write to either file. Set up windows explorer to view all files including hidden files. Bang the heck out of the F8 key just after the bios finishes its routine and prior to window starting. You'll be provided with various boot choice methods for windows. Guessing Brian wants to know if there's any offending driver not loading from bootlog.txt which is hidden. "Ralph Jaggi" wrote in message ... Hello Brian, some odd things going on I cannot see a way to process my startup device drivers, nor process the startup command file which I am to set to no, but do not the options I cann set the Load Windows drivers switch to yes or no - but that does not help also brian 'new news i have no autoexec or config files with data that is the files do exist - but they are both blank I used edit c:\autoexec.bat and config. sys and there is NOTHING inside of either file !! How Do I recreat what was there ?? and also no bootlog file can be found anywhere I have turned the logging on - but I cannot access any file with that name on my c drive and its subdirectories ! I await your sage advice !! |
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Please Do Not start a new thread Without Providing ALL the details as =
mentioned. For those that want to see the original thread: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=3...eadm=3D265950= 1c46306%2467de44f0%24a601280a%40phx.gbl&rnum=3D1&p rev=3D/groups%3Fq%3DWha= t%2Bloads%2Bin%2BWin%2B98%2Bafter%2Bvwavsyn.386%26 ie%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den=20 --=20 Brian A. Jack of all trades, Master of none. One can never truly be a master as there is always more to learn. "Ralph Jaggi" wrote in message = ... Hello Brian, some odd things going on I cannot see a way to process my startup device drivers, nor=20 process the startup command file=20 which I am to set to no, but do not the options I cann set the Load Windows drivers switch to yes or no - but=20 that does not help also brian 'new news i have no autoexec or config files with data that is the files do exist - but they are both blank I used edit c:\autoexec.bat and config. sys and there is NOTHING inside of either file !! How Do I recreat what was there ?? and also no bootlog file can be found anywhere=20 I have turned the logging on - but=20 I cannot access any file with that name on my c drive and its subdirectories ! I await your sage advice !! =20 |
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Ok, got it, have not had a repy --to two other posts to
the original thread that went back two days, so I thought The thread died. And the answer to this thread is ?? Hey Now I find The msg an exception OE has occurred at 0028 C001539A called from 0028 C005976A looking at Microsoft web page it says its AOL, not the Msgr, is the problem - how do I wipe out aol, when I cannot get into Windows add/remove?? Lastly I did get to the Hitachi web Page and got a dos .exe driver on my Floppy /A, how do I run it to get the info to my c: drive -----Original Message----- Please Do Not start a new thread Without Providing ALL the details as mentioned. For those that want to see the original thread: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF- 8&threadm=2659501c46306%2467de44f0%24a601280a% 40phx.gbl&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DWhat%2Bloads%2Bin% 2BWin%2B98%2Bafter%2Bvwavsyn.386%26ie%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den -- Brian A. Jack of all trades, Master of none. One can never truly be a master as there is always more to learn. "Ralph Jaggi" wrote in message ... Hello Brian, some odd things going on I cannot see a way to process my startup device drivers, nor process the startup command file which I am to set to no, but do not the options I cann set the Load Windows drivers switch to yes or no - but that does not help also brian 'new news i have no autoexec or config files with data that is the files do exist - but they are both blank I used edit c:\autoexec.bat and config. sys and there is NOTHING inside of either file !! How Do I recreat what was there ?? and also no bootlog file can be found anywhere I have turned the logging on - but I cannot access any file with that name on my c drive and its subdirectories ! I await your sage advice !! . |
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I believe Brian A. posted something like this in the other thread. If
you cannot boot to Normal or Safe Modes,... Explorer & IE are basically one & the same. Therefore, may as well try this write-up, originally from a Gateway WEB site, which is a temporary reversion to an earlier version of IE... ONE THING: Do nothing more than stated here using Winfile, because, if you move a file with it, you will lose that file's LFN (Long File Name) in the destination. Desktop Icons and Taskbar Are Missing Affected Products: Software, System CDs Affected Operating Systems: Windows® 98 , Windows® 98 SE, Windows® Me ISSUE: After starting Microsoft® Windows® 98 or Windows Me, the taskbar is missing and there are no icons. When starting Windows, the taskbar may flash on for a brief second and then disappear. The only display visible is the background wallpaper and the mouse cursor. Pressing CTRL+ALT+DELETE brings up the Close Program dialog box, but selecting End Task on the items on the list may not have an effect. When the computer is started into Safe mode, the issue still occurs. Running Scanreg /Restore does not resolve the issue. There have been several reports that the issue occurred when restarting the computer after receiving a dialog box that displays "Virus/spyware found. Do you wish to remove?" or "Do you want to install Spyware Monitor?" The dialog box only has Yes or No selections, and selecting either can cause the issue. There is no X to close the dialog box, however pressing CTRL+ALT+DELETE to bring up the Close Program dialog box lists a "Remove found spyware?" entry, which can be end tasked. (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down. (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold CTRL as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key. (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini Press ENTER. (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the third line in the file. (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe" text and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the following: Shell=Winfile.exe (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key to exit. (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB would move you to the next button.) (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the Windows File Manager (Winfile.exe). (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left hand window to open the Program Files folder. (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the Internet Explorer folder. (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup folder. (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right hand window to launch Internet Explorer setup. NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, & post back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an over-install of IE. (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click OK. (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the previous version of Internet Explorer. (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components. (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows dialog box, click Restart Windows. When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to select Command prompt only, and then press ENTER. (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini Press ENTER. (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under the [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the third line in the file. (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe" text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the following: Shell=Explorer.exe (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the X key to exit. (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt. (TAB would move you to the next button.) (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You should update your antivirus software, and then perform Windows Update to install a new version of Internet Explorer again. ....snip http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];249191 Blank Desktop or Illegal Operations Error Message After You Install Internet Explorer. This is a temporary reversion to an earlier IE, IF that option is present. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=293174 Over-Install IE in Progman. This is an over-install of IE. I have a detailed write-up for it, if you want. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR wrote in message ... | Ok, got it, have not had a repy --to two other posts to | the original thread that went back two days, so I thought | The thread died. | And the answer to this thread is ?? | | | Hey Now I find The msg an exception OE has occurred at | 0028 C001539A called from 0028 C005976A | looking at Microsoft web page it says its AOL, not the | Msgr, is the problem - how do I wipe out aol, when I | cannot get into Windows add/remove?? | Lastly I did get to the Hitachi web Page and got a | dos .exe driver on my Floppy /A, how do I run it to get | the info to my c: drive | | -----Original Message----- | Please Do Not start a new thread Without Providing ALL | the details as mentioned. | | For those that want to see the original thread: | http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF- | 8&threadm=2659501c46306%2467de44f0%24a601280a% | 40phx.gbl&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DWhat%2Bloads%2Bin% | 2BWin%2B98%2Bafter%2Bvwavsyn.386%26ie%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den | | -- | Brian A. | | Jack of all trades, Master of none. | One can never truly be a master as there is always more | to learn. | | | "Ralph Jaggi" wrote | in message ... | Hello Brian, some odd things going on | I cannot see a way to process my startup device | drivers, nor | process the startup command file | which I am to set to no, but do not the options | I cann set the Load Windows drivers switch to yes or | no - but | that does not help | also | brian | 'new news i have no autoexec or config files with data | that is the files do exist - but they are both blank | I used edit c:\autoexec.bat and config. sys and there | is NOTHING inside of either file !! | How Do I recreat what was there ?? | and also no bootlog file can be found anywhere | I have turned the logging on - but | I cannot access any file with that name on my c drive | and its subdirectories ! | I await your sage advice !! | | | . | |
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Hi PCR
I tried your switch of filemge and explorer and the=20 failure of boot is before the filemgr command -- which=20 means it still reboots before I get to the switched items=20 no difference The error code amazingly points to broken AOL, not the=20 msgr the whole Aol =20 how can I remove that puppy in DOS ?? Ideas ?? remember I am not able to boot into Windows so those=20 Windows tools are not avail to me =20 Thanks -----Original Message----- I believe Brian A. posted something like this in the=20 other thread. If you cannot boot to Normal or Safe Modes,... Explorer & IE are basically one & the same. Therefore,=20 may as well try this write-up, originally from a Gateway WEB site, which=20 is a temporary reversion to an earlier version of IE... ONE THING: Do nothing more than stated here using=20 Winfile, because, if you move a file with it, you will lose that file's LFN=20 (Long File Name) in the destination. Desktop Icons and Taskbar Are Missing Affected Products: Software, System CDs Affected Operating Systems: Windows=AE 98 , Windows=AE 98 SE, Windows=AE Me ISSUE: After starting Microsoft=AE Windows=AE 98 or Windows Me, the taskbar is missing and there are no icons. When starting Windows, the taskbar may flash on for a brief second and then disappear. The only display visible is the background wallpaper and the mouse cursor. Pressing CTRL+ALT+DELETE brings up the Close Program dialog box, but selecting End Task on the items on the list may not have an effect. When the computer is started into Safe mode, the issue still occurs. Running Scanreg /Restore does not resolve the issue. There have been several reports that the issue occurred when restarting the computer after receiving a dialog box that displays "Virus/spyware found. Do you wish to remove?" or "Do you want to install Spyware Monitor?" The dialog box only has Yes or No selections, and selecting either can cause the issue. There is no X to close the dialog box, however pressing CTRL+ALT+DELETE to bring up the Close Program dialog box lists a "Remove found spyware?" entry, which can be end tasked. (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down. (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the=20 computer. Hold CTRL as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing=20 the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this step=20 successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu=20 is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step. (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW=20 keys to select "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key. (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini Press ENTER. (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of=20 text under the [boot] section that lists "Shell=3DExplorer.exe". This is=20 typically the third line in the file. (4) Edit the "Shell=3DExplorer.exe" line by deleting=20 the "Explorer.exe" text and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should=20 list the following: Shell=3DWinfile.exe (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the=20 screen. Press the X key to exit. (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the=20 command prompt. (TAB would move you to the next button.) (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by=20 pressing the CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it=20 starts into the Windows File Manager (Winfile.exe). (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1"=20 in the left hand window to open the Program Files folder. (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to=20 open the Internet Explorer folder. (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open=20 the Setup folder. (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe"=20 in the right hand window to launch Internet Explorer setup. NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet=20 Explorer has not been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer=20 cannot be restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile",=20 shut down, & post back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post,=20 which is an over-install of IE. (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup=20 window, click OK. (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to=20 restore the previous version of Internet Explorer. (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components. (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools -=20 Restart Windows dialog box, click Restart Windows. When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the=20 Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you=20 complete this step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is=20 displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally,=20 repeat this step. (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW=20 keys to select Command prompt only, and then press ENTER. (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini Press ENTER. (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line=20 of text under the [boot] section that lists "Shell=3DWinfile.exe". This=20 is typically the third line in the file. (20) Edit the "Shell=3DWinfile.exe" line by deleting=20 the "Winfile.exe" text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line=20 should list the following: Shell=3DExplorer.exe (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys. (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the=20 screen. Press the X key to exit. (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the=20 command prompt. (TAB would move you to the next button.) (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by=20 pressing the CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You should update your antivirus software, and then perform Windows Update to install a new version of Internet Explorer again. ....snip http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb; [LN];249191 Blank Desktop or Illegal Operations Error Message After=20 You Install Internet Explorer. This is a temporary reversion to an=20 earlier IE, IF that option is present. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=3D293174 Over-Install IE in Progman. This is an over-install of=20 IE. I have a detailed write-up for it, if you want. --=20 Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR wrote in message ... | Ok, got it, have not had a repy --to two other posts to | the original thread that went back two days, so I=20 thought | The thread died. | And the answer to this thread is ?? | | | Hey Now I find The msg an exception OE has occurred at | 0028 C001539A called from 0028 C005976A | looking at Microsoft web page it says its AOL, not the | Msgr, is the problem - how do I wipe out aol, when I | cannot get into Windows add/remove?? | Lastly I did get to the Hitachi web Page and got a | dos .exe driver on my Floppy /A, how do I run it to get | the info to my c: drive | | -----Original Message----- | Please Do Not start a new thread Without Providing ALL | the details as mentioned. | | For those that want to see the original thread: | http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=3Den&lr=3D&ie=3DUTF- | 8&threadm=3D2659501c46306%2467de44f0%24a601280a% | 40phx.gbl&rnum=3D1&prev=3D/groups%3Fq%3DWhat%2Bloads%2Bin% | 2BWin%2B98%2Bafter%2Bvwavsyn.386%26ie%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den | | --=20 | Brian A. | | Jack of all trades, Master of none. | One can never truly be a master as there is always more | to learn. | | | "Ralph Jaggi" =20 wrote | in message news:2998901c4661e$0b5ea2e0 ... | Hello Brian, some odd things going on | I cannot see a way to process my startup device | drivers, nor | process the startup command file | which I am to set to no, but do not the options | I cann set the Load Windows drivers switch to yes or | no - but | that does not help | also | brian | 'new news i have no autoexec or config files with=20 data | that is the files do exist - but they are both blank | I used edit c:\autoexec.bat and config. sys and=20 there | is NOTHING inside of either file !! | How Do I recreat what was there ?? | and also no bootlog file can be found anywhere | I have turned the logging on - but | I cannot access any file with that name on my c drive | and its subdirectories ! | I await your sage advice !! | | | . | . |
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wrote in message =
... Ok, got it, have not had a repy --to two other posts to=20 the original thread that went back two days, so I thought=20 The thread died. The thread did not die. I as well as others, have many other obstacles = in life to take care of. Sometimes it may take a day or 2 or even a week = to get back. Other times it may be the nature of the issue and we could = be researching to find similar issues and fixes. Either way, it may seem = a long time to the person with the issue, but 2 days is short. And the answer to this thread is ?? The same as already given: Please Do Not start a new thread Without Providing ALL the details as = mentioned. From a response in your original thread to the question on moving the = thread up: P.S. The only way to move this up to a new thread is to make sure you = include your original problem, suggestions made to resolve the issue, = everything you have tried to resolve the issue and any outcome. = Otherwise it would be confusing to others that have not followed the = thread and harder for those that are following it to see what has been = suggested and tried. snipped Before thinking of or attempting below, in DOS let us know what is in = each line of: Load=3D and Run=3D in the Win.ini file And Shell=3DExplorer.exe in the System.ini file. Use the Edit command to see the contents: cd c:\windows edit win.ini *Note: the lines Run=3D and load=3D should be just that = with nothing after the =3D. If anything is after the =3D disable the = line by remarking it out. Type REM in front of the line and press the = spacebar so there is a space between REM and LOAD or RUN. Exit after checking/editing. edit system.ini *Note: there should be nothing after Explorer.exe, = if there is we need to see what it is and you need to remove it. Only = remove anything after Explorer.exe which indicates system compromise of = a virus/trojan. We won't try below yet, but it may become necessary. I have one more = card to play, email some friends the complete scenario, which may/may = not help if everything known has already been attempted. I'm going to = shoot that off now. If you have tried everything suggested that could be done including the = reinstallation of IE using Winfile.exe, PCR's reboot links and you're = still stuck in the reboot loop, it may be best to reinstall Windows to a = new folder. First and foremost: What is the capacity of your HD? How much is used and how much is free? Do you have the Win98 install CD or an OEM restore/recovery CD? Do you have the ProductKey? |
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One other suggestion to be sure there isn't a virus, download/run =
F-Prot for DOS along with the latest definitions. http://www.f-prot.com/products/home_use/dos/ --=20 Brian A. Jack of all trades, Master of none. One can never truly be a master as there is always more to learn. |
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