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  #21  
Old February 16th 12, 05:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Default How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed

Lostgallifreyan wrote:

The only role I see mini-ITX playing is in the home-theater /
set-top box situation, where you want really small size. But
expect to pay $120 to $180 (plus cpu) for a mini-itx board with
decent multimedia performance.


No. Don't. Unless you want to buy from some shyster who over-inflates
the price. I did mention that, in some detail. Perhaps you missed it.


Go and find a mini-ITX motherboard that has an HDMI port (or at least a
DVI port) and SATA controller and is well regarded in HTPC circles as
being acceptible for hi-def video playback.

Post links to retail product examples.

First of all, I wouldn't even look at mini-ITX. I'd be looking at
micro-atx (some of which are practically the same size as mini-ITX but
usually a few cm larger).

And sometimes the same board is called micro-atx and mini-ITX at the
same time. Like this:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...086&CatId=6977

SUS P8H67-M Pro REV3 Motherboard
Micro ATX, Intel H67, LGA1155, 1333MHz DDR3,
HDMI, Gigabit LAN, 8-Channel Audio, SATA 6.0, USB 3.0
$120

I know you think I talk too much, but actually, it is you
who reads too little. Put some effort into it.


I wouldn't make any generalizations if I were you.

Mini ITX (or any small board with standard connectors made for
industry) is a good spend if you look around, because the support
is far better than for consumer boards.


Wrong.

There are fewer ITX / micro-atx boards made, and they cost more because
of their high-density integration.

These are all consumer boards. If you want to talk about industrial
boards, that's a whole other ballgame and it's not on-topic for this
thread.

As for support - what are we talking about here? Do you want to take
this conversation beyond win-98 support?

Also, I was specifically answering a guy who is likely not
after top end multimedia. Or did you igonre his context
(AGAIN) as well as mine?


He needs a computer that can run the latest flash player. He's not
going to get that with your ancient 8-year-old ITX board suggestion.
  #22  
Old February 16th 12, 05:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed

98 Guy wrote in :

Go and find a mini-ITX motherboard that has an HDMI port (or at least a
DVI port) and SATA controller and is well regarded in HTPC circles as
being acceptible for hi-def video playback.



NO. You go and find it. Anmd stop moving the goalposts. Stop inventinmg
brainless quests to satisfy your wish for denial. Lee was not posting about
computers that do SATA and ultrafast HD video and HDMI. Stop talking like a
glossy tech magazine and get your eyes off the prize, and onto the ball. Lee
was previously talkign about having been given 286's and 386's. Now why would
that have been ANY part of his context if he wants the stuff you're now
talking about. Context is everything, but you only seem to invent it to make
impossible cases on a hypothetical basis. As soon as I nail that context
based on Lee's original points, what do you do? Spiral outwards like a
lunatic.

  #23  
Old February 16th 12, 05:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed

98 Guy wrote in :

First of all, I wouldn't even look at mini-ITX. I'd be looking at
micro-atx (some of which are practically the same size as mini-ITX but
usually a few cm larger).


I did mention ITX in the context of 'mini ATX or other small self-contained
boards with standard connectors'. But no doubt you missed that too.

He needs a computer that can run the latest flash player. He's not
going to get that with your ancient 8-year-old ITX board suggestion.


Rubbish. It can run WXP, or W98 with KernelEx, so of course it will.

THE ONLY REASON YOU ANSWER ME IS TO TRY TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD. THIS ISN'T ABOUT
TECHNICAL MERIT IS IT? YOU DO IT TO BIG YOURSELF UP AS THE TOP NOTCH ONE-
STOP-SHOP MISTER MAN OF ALL THINGS W98. You really can't BEAR the thought
that anonoe else might listen to me, rather than you. You're a tinhat
preacherman.
  #24  
Old February 16th 12, 10:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Robert Macy[_2_]
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Default How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed

On Feb 16, 9:07*am, 98 Guy wrote:
Robert Macy used improper usenet message composition style by
unnecessarily full-quoting:

I got 3 weeks of Walgreen's weekly ads BEFORE they require latest
Java that is NOT compatible with Win98!


Did you actually see a message mentioning java?

Contacting the website managers through the supplied 800
number [now that is a nice feature] yielded only arote answer
"You need the latest Java" and not any mention of alternative,
or workarounds, nothing. Just don't care.


The problem is not java.

Actually, I don't think that site uses java. *They do use javascript
(practically all sites do).

The problem is your browser.

Using Opera 11.01, I can bring up the local flyer, which is an Adobe
Flash file.

Using Firefox 2.0.0.20, I can't.

I'll putz with this a little more, but this seems to be the direct link
for the flash file:

http://walgreens.shoplocal.com/walgr.../walgreens.swf

The file is about 700 kb in size. *Even using Opera 11.01, I can't seem
to get past entering a zipcode.

I don't have a stand-alone flash player (one that works on win-98
anyways). *Maybe someone here can see if they can render that flash file
in win-98 using some method or program...


Oops, I meant latest FLASH Player!
  #25  
Old February 17th 12, 03:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Default How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed

Lostgallifreyan wrote:

THE ONLY REASON YOU ANSWER ME IS TO TRY TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD.


You're doing a fine job at that.

Keep it up, hot-head.
  #26  
Old February 24th 12, 08:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lee
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Default How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed

On Feb 16, 6:21*am, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Lee wrote in news:25d5b0c0-d023-4d66-acfe-
:

Right now my FireFox 2 does nothing so I suppose it's related to all
the above issues as in some unannounced requirement for a 350 MHz
minimum processor speed that I'll never find because the page won't
load for me.


If that's a serious sticking point, but you can still go to a web page to
download anything, try OperaUSB v10.63. Never mind all the browser-war views
that might result from this suggestion, do it anyway. It's efficient, runs on
W98, is compliant enough and new enough to properly handle eBay pages. Save
agoising over FireFox until you have some hardware that gives you more
choice. Right now it looks like you need tools that Houdini would have had
uses for. Self-contained tools that can run on rescue disks and USB sticks
are the way to go because they more likely run properly in tight situations,
they are easy to quit and remove when things get easier and you want other
tools.


I tried Opera first, it does nothing too. I need to download a plug
in that really doesn't plug into anything - if anyone can explain that
to me, I'll try to NOT laugh in your face while you do it. I can't
use software that just sits there and Opera 10.63 just sits there
forever. Since I have KernelEx installed correctly, I can only assume
it's the MMX issue all over again. It doesn't seem to run on my 98.
Nice try?
  #27  
Old February 24th 12, 02:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Default How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed

Lee wrote:

I can only assume it's the MMX issue all over again. It doesn't
seem to run on my 98. Nice try?


I told you to throw your ancient computer in the garbage and pick up a
used P4 computer.

What city is closer to you?

Denver, Colorado Springs, or Pueblo?

Check out Action PC. They have a location in south Denver and north
Arvada:

http://www.actionpc.com/

Scroll half-way down that page and see these:


Want to surf the internet and check email?
This one is for you!
Dell Optiplex GX270 Mini Desktop
Pentium 4 CPU
512MB DDR RAM
NO Optical Drive
40GB+ IDE Hard Drive
Windows XP Professional
*$45.95
* You MUST mention the website to get Black November Pricing.

That computer has an Intel 865G chipset, which means there are Windows
98 drivers for it, which means you'll be able to install win-98 on it.

They have a few other computer choices between $50 and $150.
  #29  
Old March 2nd 12, 07:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lee
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Default How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed

On Feb 24, 8:03*am, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Lee wrote in news:834dbab0-755e-4670-a17b-
:

I tried Opera first, it does nothing too. *I need to download a plug
in that really doesn't plug into anything - if anyone can explain that
to me, I'll try to NOT laugh in your face while you do it. *I can't
use software that just sits there and Opera 10.63 just sits there
forever. *Since I have KernelEx installed correctly, I can only assume
it's the MMX issue all over again. *It doesn't seem to run on my 98.
Nice try?


I have no idea about that. But I do know it works on W98 here, and I don't
have KernelEx. I don't add any plugins to it either, other than Flash. The
same Flash install that enabled Flash in Firefox 2 when I was using that.

Did you get Opera 10.63, or OperaUSB 10.63. There is a difference. The main
branch never really worked for me either, that's why I didn't say anything
about it. The USB version did work. Still does.


operausb1063en.zip Looks like USB version, I usually lurk pretty
good. But one problem may be my firewall. Zonealarm usually pops up
with an alert when something new is trying to get to the internet but
for Opera and Firefox as well, nothing happens and those programs are
NOT in the progams list so ZoneAlarm is NOT recognizing them nor
letting them out of the front yard to play. I'll try the last
ZoneAlarm for win98 and see if there is any difference in behavior and/
or NO zonealarm at all too. What do you guys use for a 98 firewall?

98 guy
I just got an oncology bill for $1,000 so trips to town won't be
happening any time soon and that $50 computer will have to go to
someone else, but I agree - that's the real solution here. And thanks
for the thought. The springs is closest at 100 miles, military town
and not a normal town at all. Best possible news is that the lab
didn't find anything bad going on.

My sister did give me an old XP box not even hers, it was just sitting
in the garage when she moved in, but I know almost nothing about it.
I'd prefer to keep it XP and use it to surf with if I beef up the
firewall. Apparently MS was pretty good about not letting stuff get in
but they have pretty much nothing stopping it from getting back out so
that door needs some real work according to grc.com - originators of
FREE zonealarm. So I'm not totally helpless, just too lazy to set it
all up the way I need it. XP in charge of a local peer to peer
network since XP can't join a network but will host one. And 98 in
the living room (where it's warm) running the XP box by remote
programs so I can surf the net with XP SP3 running the latest firefox
on it with comodo firewall and sharing download folders with my same
old clunker 98 box, I could live with that. Then I'll get the
wireless hi-speed antenna up about 40 feet and get that in gear too,
then I might be in a good humor once in a while. One dream at a time,
I guess. Local network first - zonealarm was the original problem
there and again no notice was popping up to let me know about it. I
only saw it after I pulled the NIC card to try the hi-speed set up and
then zonealarm made enough noises to make me drill on down and take a
much closer look and see that it was NEVER enabled for the NIC card
and NEEDED to be. So that's why no 98 ping! Doh! But not enough hi-
speed signal to go that route just yet, so we have to back off and
punt yet again. We'll get there, a tad bit late too, but somehow
we'll get there. I really would like a fast 98 box too, but it seems
to be the last item on a long list of things to do first. Thanks guys.
  #30  
Old March 2nd 12, 08:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Lee wrote in news:5d0b64e0-8e7c-49da-a470-
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What do you guys use for a 98 firewall?


LnS Firewall. It definitely works nicer than ZoneAlarm. I once used ZA, and
not having to still makes me happy, ZA casts a long shadow.
 




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