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How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed
Lostgallifreyan wrote:
The only role I see mini-ITX playing is in the home-theater / set-top box situation, where you want really small size. But expect to pay $120 to $180 (plus cpu) for a mini-itx board with decent multimedia performance. No. Don't. Unless you want to buy from some shyster who over-inflates the price. I did mention that, in some detail. Perhaps you missed it. Go and find a mini-ITX motherboard that has an HDMI port (or at least a DVI port) and SATA controller and is well regarded in HTPC circles as being acceptible for hi-def video playback. Post links to retail product examples. First of all, I wouldn't even look at mini-ITX. I'd be looking at micro-atx (some of which are practically the same size as mini-ITX but usually a few cm larger). And sometimes the same board is called micro-atx and mini-ITX at the same time. Like this: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...086&CatId=6977 SUS P8H67-M Pro REV3 Motherboard Micro ATX, Intel H67, LGA1155, 1333MHz DDR3, HDMI, Gigabit LAN, 8-Channel Audio, SATA 6.0, USB 3.0 $120 I know you think I talk too much, but actually, it is you who reads too little. Put some effort into it. I wouldn't make any generalizations if I were you. Mini ITX (or any small board with standard connectors made for industry) is a good spend if you look around, because the support is far better than for consumer boards. Wrong. There are fewer ITX / micro-atx boards made, and they cost more because of their high-density integration. These are all consumer boards. If you want to talk about industrial boards, that's a whole other ballgame and it's not on-topic for this thread. As for support - what are we talking about here? Do you want to take this conversation beyond win-98 support? Also, I was specifically answering a guy who is likely not after top end multimedia. Or did you igonre his context (AGAIN) as well as mine? He needs a computer that can run the latest flash player. He's not going to get that with your ancient 8-year-old ITX board suggestion. |
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98 Guy wrote in :
Go and find a mini-ITX motherboard that has an HDMI port (or at least a DVI port) and SATA controller and is well regarded in HTPC circles as being acceptible for hi-def video playback. NO. You go and find it. Anmd stop moving the goalposts. Stop inventinmg brainless quests to satisfy your wish for denial. Lee was not posting about computers that do SATA and ultrafast HD video and HDMI. Stop talking like a glossy tech magazine and get your eyes off the prize, and onto the ball. Lee was previously talkign about having been given 286's and 386's. Now why would that have been ANY part of his context if he wants the stuff you're now talking about. Context is everything, but you only seem to invent it to make impossible cases on a hypothetical basis. As soon as I nail that context based on Lee's original points, what do you do? Spiral outwards like a lunatic. |
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How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed
98 Guy wrote in :
First of all, I wouldn't even look at mini-ITX. I'd be looking at micro-atx (some of which are practically the same size as mini-ITX but usually a few cm larger). I did mention ITX in the context of 'mini ATX or other small self-contained boards with standard connectors'. But no doubt you missed that too. He needs a computer that can run the latest flash player. He's not going to get that with your ancient 8-year-old ITX board suggestion. Rubbish. It can run WXP, or W98 with KernelEx, so of course it will. THE ONLY REASON YOU ANSWER ME IS TO TRY TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD. THIS ISN'T ABOUT TECHNICAL MERIT IS IT? YOU DO IT TO BIG YOURSELF UP AS THE TOP NOTCH ONE- STOP-SHOP MISTER MAN OF ALL THINGS W98. You really can't BEAR the thought that anonoe else might listen to me, rather than you. You're a tinhat preacherman. |
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How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed
On Feb 16, 9:07*am, 98 Guy wrote:
Robert Macy used improper usenet message composition style by unnecessarily full-quoting: I got 3 weeks of Walgreen's weekly ads BEFORE they require latest Java that is NOT compatible with Win98! Did you actually see a message mentioning java? Contacting the website managers through the supplied 800 number [now that is a nice feature] yielded only arote answer "You need the latest Java" and not any mention of alternative, or workarounds, nothing. Just don't care. The problem is not java. Actually, I don't think that site uses java. *They do use javascript (practically all sites do). The problem is your browser. Using Opera 11.01, I can bring up the local flyer, which is an Adobe Flash file. Using Firefox 2.0.0.20, I can't. I'll putz with this a little more, but this seems to be the direct link for the flash file: http://walgreens.shoplocal.com/walgr.../walgreens.swf The file is about 700 kb in size. *Even using Opera 11.01, I can't seem to get past entering a zipcode. I don't have a stand-alone flash player (one that works on win-98 anyways). *Maybe someone here can see if they can render that flash file in win-98 using some method or program... Oops, I meant latest FLASH Player! |
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How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed
Lostgallifreyan wrote:
THE ONLY REASON YOU ANSWER ME IS TO TRY TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD. You're doing a fine job at that. Keep it up, hot-head. |
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How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed
On Feb 16, 6:21*am, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Lee wrote in news:25d5b0c0-d023-4d66-acfe- : Right now my FireFox 2 does nothing so I suppose it's related to all the above issues as in some unannounced requirement for a 350 MHz minimum processor speed that I'll never find because the page won't load for me. If that's a serious sticking point, but you can still go to a web page to download anything, try OperaUSB v10.63. Never mind all the browser-war views that might result from this suggestion, do it anyway. It's efficient, runs on W98, is compliant enough and new enough to properly handle eBay pages. Save agoising over FireFox until you have some hardware that gives you more choice. Right now it looks like you need tools that Houdini would have had uses for. Self-contained tools that can run on rescue disks and USB sticks are the way to go because they more likely run properly in tight situations, they are easy to quit and remove when things get easier and you want other tools. I tried Opera first, it does nothing too. I need to download a plug in that really doesn't plug into anything - if anyone can explain that to me, I'll try to NOT laugh in your face while you do it. I can't use software that just sits there and Opera 10.63 just sits there forever. Since I have KernelEx installed correctly, I can only assume it's the MMX issue all over again. It doesn't seem to run on my 98. Nice try? |
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How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed
Lee wrote:
I can only assume it's the MMX issue all over again. It doesn't seem to run on my 98. Nice try? I told you to throw your ancient computer in the garbage and pick up a used P4 computer. What city is closer to you? Denver, Colorado Springs, or Pueblo? Check out Action PC. They have a location in south Denver and north Arvada: http://www.actionpc.com/ Scroll half-way down that page and see these: Want to surf the internet and check email? This one is for you! Dell Optiplex GX270 Mini Desktop Pentium 4 CPU 512MB DDR RAM NO Optical Drive 40GB+ IDE Hard Drive Windows XP Professional *$45.95 * You MUST mention the website to get Black November Pricing. That computer has an Intel 865G chipset, which means there are Windows 98 drivers for it, which means you'll be able to install win-98 on it. They have a few other computer choices between $50 and $150. |
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On Feb 24, 8:03*am, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
Lee wrote in news:834dbab0-755e-4670-a17b- : I tried Opera first, it does nothing too. *I need to download a plug in that really doesn't plug into anything - if anyone can explain that to me, I'll try to NOT laugh in your face while you do it. *I can't use software that just sits there and Opera 10.63 just sits there forever. *Since I have KernelEx installed correctly, I can only assume it's the MMX issue all over again. *It doesn't seem to run on my 98. Nice try? I have no idea about that. But I do know it works on W98 here, and I don't have KernelEx. I don't add any plugins to it either, other than Flash. The same Flash install that enabled Flash in Firefox 2 when I was using that. Did you get Opera 10.63, or OperaUSB 10.63. There is a difference. The main branch never really worked for me either, that's why I didn't say anything about it. The USB version did work. Still does. operausb1063en.zip Looks like USB version, I usually lurk pretty good. But one problem may be my firewall. Zonealarm usually pops up with an alert when something new is trying to get to the internet but for Opera and Firefox as well, nothing happens and those programs are NOT in the progams list so ZoneAlarm is NOT recognizing them nor letting them out of the front yard to play. I'll try the last ZoneAlarm for win98 and see if there is any difference in behavior and/ or NO zonealarm at all too. What do you guys use for a 98 firewall? 98 guy I just got an oncology bill for $1,000 so trips to town won't be happening any time soon and that $50 computer will have to go to someone else, but I agree - that's the real solution here. And thanks for the thought. The springs is closest at 100 miles, military town and not a normal town at all. Best possible news is that the lab didn't find anything bad going on. My sister did give me an old XP box not even hers, it was just sitting in the garage when she moved in, but I know almost nothing about it. I'd prefer to keep it XP and use it to surf with if I beef up the firewall. Apparently MS was pretty good about not letting stuff get in but they have pretty much nothing stopping it from getting back out so that door needs some real work according to grc.com - originators of FREE zonealarm. So I'm not totally helpless, just too lazy to set it all up the way I need it. XP in charge of a local peer to peer network since XP can't join a network but will host one. And 98 in the living room (where it's warm) running the XP box by remote programs so I can surf the net with XP SP3 running the latest firefox on it with comodo firewall and sharing download folders with my same old clunker 98 box, I could live with that. Then I'll get the wireless hi-speed antenna up about 40 feet and get that in gear too, then I might be in a good humor once in a while. One dream at a time, I guess. Local network first - zonealarm was the original problem there and again no notice was popping up to let me know about it. I only saw it after I pulled the NIC card to try the hi-speed set up and then zonealarm made enough noises to make me drill on down and take a much closer look and see that it was NEVER enabled for the NIC card and NEEDED to be. So that's why no 98 ping! Doh! But not enough hi- speed signal to go that route just yet, so we have to back off and punt yet again. We'll get there, a tad bit late too, but somehow we'll get there. I really would like a fast 98 box too, but it seems to be the last item on a long list of things to do first. Thanks guys. |
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