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Old August 18th 07, 12:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Dan
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Default 98SE and XP Professional Stability

I thank PCR and my friend Jeff for all of their help in getting me back on
firm ground again with a clean install of 98SE and an over-install of XP
Professional. The surprising thing was that at the end XP Professional was
becoming more unstable than 98SE. Yes, XP Professional had the dreaded BSOD
(Blue Screens of Death) that were related to sound driver issues and 98SE
also had the sound driver issues from the Sound Blaster Audigy. Jeff
reminded me of a simple fact that I had completely forgotten about being away
from this newsgroup for so long. The fact about getting rid of everything
related to all the extra junk programs with the Sound Blaster Audigy and just
download and install the latest driver(s) for your operating system from the
in this case -- Creative Support web site. I also downloaded some third
party drivers for full DOS sound support for Windows 98 Second Edition for my
old DOS games. Life is good. The only issue I have is how to have the Sound
Blaster Audigy address another IRQ besides IRQ 5 which causes issues with the
Sound Blaster DOS emulation. Does anyone have any ideas for me? Thanks in
advance for everyone's help and it is good to see a lot of MVP's like Gary S.
Terhune posting again in this group. I feel glad to be back again. I even
remember back in the day when I was so scared of the Internet that I used my
roomate's computer to post and the posting always showed up as Art. I know
now that was deceitful but I am glad the group was willing to forgive me and
allow me to participate again. Dan W. aka known as Art a while ago and also
Dan/Dan W. when using Mozilla Thunderbird as nospam.nec -- I think
  #2  
Old August 18th 07, 06:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Don Phillipson
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"Dan" wrote in message
...

The surprising thing was that at the end XP Professional was
becoming more unstable than 98SE.


This may be normal. Win98 enthusiasts have long said
Win98 is faster and more stable than XP.

Yes, XP Professional had the dreaded BSOD
(Blue Screens of Death) that were related to sound driver issues and 98SE
also had the sound driver issues from the Sound Blaster Audigy.


There are many varieties of Audigy card but only a few are
compatible with Win98.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



  #3  
Old August 18th 07, 08:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PCR
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"Dan" wrote in message

| I thank PCR and my friend Jeff for all of their help in getting me
| back on firm ground again with a clean install of 98SE and an
| over-install of XP Professional. The surprising thing was that at
| the end XP Professional was becoming more unstable than 98SE. Yes,
| XP Professional had the dreaded BSOD (Blue Screens of Death) that
| were related to sound driver issues and 98SE also had the sound
| driver issues from the Sound Blaster Audigy. Jeff reminded me of a
| simple fact that I had completely forgotten about being away from
| this newsgroup for so long. The fact about getting rid of everything
| related to all the extra junk programs with the Sound Blaster Audigy
| and just download and install the latest driver(s) for your operating
| system from the in this case -- Creative Support web site. I also
| downloaded some third party drivers for full DOS sound support for
| Windows 98 Second Edition for my old DOS games. Life is good. The
| only issue I have is how to have the Sound Blaster Audigy address
| another IRQ besides IRQ 5 which causes issues with the Sound Blaster
| DOS emulation. Does anyone have any ideas for me? Thanks in advance
| for everyone's help and it is good to see a lot of MVP's like Gary S.
| Terhune posting again in this group. I feel glad to be back again.
| I even remember back in the day when I was so scared of the Internet
| that I used my roomate's computer to post and the posting always
| showed up as Art. I know now that was deceitful but I am glad the
| group was willing to forgive me and allow me to participate again.
| Dan W. aka known as Art a while ago and also Dan/Dan W. when using
| Mozilla Thunderbird as nospam.nec -- I think

You are welcome, though I doubt it was much I did or said that got you
back this far. Good going. As Philipson says & I may have said in an
earlier thread-- CAREFUL NOT to load XP versions of software onto the
Win98 side. Make sure you have a Win98 version for that Audigy!

As far as IRQs, usually BIOS & Windows will make the correct decision.
If they don't, it could be tough to play with. But it is possible!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR



  #4  
Old August 19th 07, 01:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Dan
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Default 98SE and XP Professional Stability

It is an original old school Sound Blaster 1 that was the last Creative sound
card to have full compatibility with Windows 98. The sound works great now
in 98 and XP Pro. I am trying to have the emulation work correctly for DOS
games in 98.

"Don Phillipson" wrote:

"Dan" wrote in message
...

The surprising thing was that at the end XP Professional was
becoming more unstable than 98SE.


This may be normal. Win98 enthusiasts have long said
Win98 is faster and more stable than XP.

Yes, XP Professional had the dreaded BSOD
(Blue Screens of Death) that were related to sound driver issues and 98SE
also had the sound driver issues from the Sound Blaster Audigy.


There are many varieties of Audigy card but only a few are
compatible with Win98.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)




  #5  
Old August 19th 07, 01:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Dan
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Default 98SE and XP Professional Stability

Thanks! Does Gary S. Terhune, Glen, Chris Quirke, Alan Edwards, or any other
MVP's know how to accomplish this task with the IRQ switching or can I
research it myself on a web site. I give the most credit to my friend Jeff
for reminding me to install the latest driver only for the hardware that is
linked to the appropriate operating system.

"PCR" wrote:

"Dan" wrote in message

| I thank PCR and my friend Jeff for all of their help in getting me
| back on firm ground again with a clean install of 98SE and an
| over-install of XP Professional. The surprising thing was that at
| the end XP Professional was becoming more unstable than 98SE. Yes,
| XP Professional had the dreaded BSOD (Blue Screens of Death) that
| were related to sound driver issues and 98SE also had the sound
| driver issues from the Sound Blaster Audigy. Jeff reminded me of a
| simple fact that I had completely forgotten about being away from
| this newsgroup for so long. The fact about getting rid of everything
| related to all the extra junk programs with the Sound Blaster Audigy
| and just download and install the latest driver(s) for your operating
| system from the in this case -- Creative Support web site. I also
| downloaded some third party drivers for full DOS sound support for
| Windows 98 Second Edition for my old DOS games. Life is good. The
| only issue I have is how to have the Sound Blaster Audigy address
| another IRQ besides IRQ 5 which causes issues with the Sound Blaster
| DOS emulation. Does anyone have any ideas for me? Thanks in advance
| for everyone's help and it is good to see a lot of MVP's like Gary S.
| Terhune posting again in this group. I feel glad to be back again.
| I even remember back in the day when I was so scared of the Internet
| that I used my roomate's computer to post and the posting always
| showed up as Art. I know now that was deceitful but I am glad the
| group was willing to forgive me and allow me to participate again.
| Dan W. aka known as Art a while ago and also Dan/Dan W. when using
| Mozilla Thunderbird as nospam.nec -- I think

You are welcome, though I doubt it was much I did or said that got you
back this far. Good going. As Philipson says & I may have said in an
earlier thread-- CAREFUL NOT to load XP versions of software onto the
Win98 side. Make sure you have a Win98 version for that Audigy!

As far as IRQs, usually BIOS & Windows will make the correct decision.
If they don't, it could be tough to play with. But it is possible!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR




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Old August 19th 07, 04:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default 98SE and XP Professional Stability

Not me.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks! Does Gary S. Terhune, Glen, Chris Quirke, Alan Edwards, or any
other
MVP's know how to accomplish this task with the IRQ switching or can I
research it myself on a web site. I give the most credit to my friend
Jeff
for reminding me to install the latest driver only for the hardware that
is
linked to the appropriate operating system.

"PCR" wrote:

"Dan" wrote in message

| I thank PCR and my friend Jeff for all of their help in getting me
| back on firm ground again with a clean install of 98SE and an
| over-install of XP Professional. The surprising thing was that at
| the end XP Professional was becoming more unstable than 98SE. Yes,
| XP Professional had the dreaded BSOD (Blue Screens of Death) that
| were related to sound driver issues and 98SE also had the sound
| driver issues from the Sound Blaster Audigy. Jeff reminded me of a
| simple fact that I had completely forgotten about being away from
| this newsgroup for so long. The fact about getting rid of everything
| related to all the extra junk programs with the Sound Blaster Audigy
| and just download and install the latest driver(s) for your operating
| system from the in this case -- Creative Support web site. I also
| downloaded some third party drivers for full DOS sound support for
| Windows 98 Second Edition for my old DOS games. Life is good. The
| only issue I have is how to have the Sound Blaster Audigy address
| another IRQ besides IRQ 5 which causes issues with the Sound Blaster
| DOS emulation. Does anyone have any ideas for me? Thanks in advance
| for everyone's help and it is good to see a lot of MVP's like Gary S.
| Terhune posting again in this group. I feel glad to be back again.
| I even remember back in the day when I was so scared of the Internet
| that I used my roomate's computer to post and the posting always
| showed up as Art. I know now that was deceitful but I am glad the
| group was willing to forgive me and allow me to participate again.
| Dan W. aka known as Art a while ago and also Dan/Dan W. when using
| Mozilla Thunderbird as nospam.nec -- I think

You are welcome, though I doubt it was much I did or said that got you
back this far. Good going. As Philipson says & I may have said in an
earlier thread-- CAREFUL NOT to load XP versions of software onto the
Win98 side. Make sure you have a Win98 version for that Audigy!

As far as IRQs, usually BIOS & Windows will make the correct decision.
If they don't, it could be tough to play with. But it is possible!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR






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Old August 19th 07, 04:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Jeff Richards
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You should be able to remove DOS emulation if you don't need it. If you do
need it, then I think it will have to use IRQ5, and it's unlikely that it
can be changed. Some very old cards needed the DOS installation utility to
set the IRQ used - if you installed it any other way you wouldn't get DOS
emulation. Later the installation became a bit more intelligent, but
probably locked you into IRQ5. Why is the use of IRQ5 causing a problem?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks! Does Gary S. Terhune, Glen, Chris Quirke, Alan Edwards, or any
other
MVP's know how to accomplish this task with the IRQ switching or can I
research it myself on a web site. I give the most credit to my friend
Jeff
for reminding me to install the latest driver only for the hardware that
is
linked to the appropriate operating system.



  #8  
Old August 19th 07, 06:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Dan
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Default 98SE and XP Professional Stability

Well, it gave me an error message on boot at first but since then I have
tinkered with the settings in the device manager by unchecking the automatic
setting and configuring the device manually and now it appears to be loading
the DOS emulation properly. I will have to install a DOS game and see if it
works properly with the sound. Thanks for your feedback Jeff and you also
Gary for replying. I will keep you informed of my progress.

"Jeff Richards" wrote:

You should be able to remove DOS emulation if you don't need it. If you do
need it, then I think it will have to use IRQ5, and it's unlikely that it
can be changed. Some very old cards needed the DOS installation utility to
set the IRQ used - if you installed it any other way you wouldn't get DOS
emulation. Later the installation became a bit more intelligent, but
probably locked you into IRQ5. Why is the use of IRQ5 causing a problem?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks! Does Gary S. Terhune, Glen, Chris Quirke, Alan Edwards, or any
other
MVP's know how to accomplish this task with the IRQ switching or can I
research it myself on a web site. I give the most credit to my friend
Jeff
for reminding me to install the latest driver only for the hardware that
is
linked to the appropriate operating system.




  #9  
Old August 19th 07, 06:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PCR
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Posts: 4,396
Default 98SE and XP Professional Stability

"Dan" wrote in message

| Thanks! Does Gary S. Terhune, Glen, Chris Quirke, Alan Edwards, or
| any other MVP's know how to accomplish this task with the IRQ
| switching or can I research it myself on a web site. I give the most
| credit to my friend Jeff for reminding me to install the latest
| driver only for the hardware that is linked to the appropriate
| operating system.

I see you have successfully solved the IRQ problem on your own. Very
good! That is tough to do going by what I've read, as it could involve
BIOS, Device Manager settings, a physical switch on the device, the
physical location of the device, & even proprietary software to run says
Richards! SO, let us see the result...!...

(a) "START, Run, MSInfo32, Hardware Resources, IRQs"
(b) Use the "Edit" menu to copy & post it.

Here are mine...

0 System timer
1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
2 Programmable interrupt controller
3 Trident Blade3D/MVP4 (63)
3 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
4 Communications Port (COM1)
5 ESS Allegro-1 PCI AudioDrive
5 ESS Allegro-1 Device Manager
5 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
6 Standard Floppy Disk Controller
7 ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
8 System CMOS/real time clock
9 SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus
10 PCTEL Platinum V.90 Modem
10 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
11 VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
11 VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
11 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
12 WheelMouseIM (PS/2)
13 Numeric data processor
14 Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
14 VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller
15 Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
15 VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller


| "PCR" wrote:
|
| "Dan" wrote in message
|
| | I thank PCR and my friend Jeff for all of their help in getting me
| | back on firm ground again with a clean install of 98SE and an
| | over-install of XP Professional. The surprising thing was that at
| | the end XP Professional was becoming more unstable than 98SE. Yes,
| | XP Professional had the dreaded BSOD (Blue Screens of Death) that
| | were related to sound driver issues and 98SE also had the sound
| | driver issues from the Sound Blaster Audigy. Jeff reminded me of a
| | simple fact that I had completely forgotten about being away from
| | this newsgroup for so long. The fact about getting rid of
| | everything related to all the extra junk programs with the Sound
| | Blaster Audigy and just download and install the latest driver(s)
| | for your operating system from the in this case -- Creative
| | Support web site. I also downloaded some third party drivers for
| | full DOS sound support for Windows 98 Second Edition for my old
| | DOS games. Life is good. The only issue I have is how to have
| | the Sound Blaster Audigy address another IRQ besides IRQ 5 which
| | causes issues with the Sound Blaster DOS emulation. Does anyone
| | have any ideas for me? Thanks in advance for everyone's help and
| | it is good to see a lot of MVP's like Gary S. Terhune posting
| | again in this group. I feel glad to be back again. I even
| | remember back in the day when I was so scared of the Internet that
| | I used my roomate's computer to post and the posting always showed
| | up as Art. I know now that was deceitful but I am glad the group
| | was willing to forgive me and allow me to participate again. Dan
| | W. aka known as Art a while ago and also Dan/Dan W. when using
| | Mozilla Thunderbird as nospam.nec -- I think
|
| You are welcome, though I doubt it was much I did or said that got
| you back this far. Good going. As Philipson says & I may have said
| in an earlier thread-- CAREFUL NOT to load XP versions of software
| onto the Win98 side. Make sure you have a Win98 version for that
| Audigy!
|
| As far as IRQs, usually BIOS & Windows will make the correct
| decision. If they don't, it could be tough to play with. But it is
| possible!
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR



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Old August 20th 07, 01:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Dan
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PCR, first give me a chance to try and load an old DOS game like Conquest of
Camelot by Sierra and see if the sound, mouse and everything actually works.
If it does then I will give you the data you seek. grin

"PCR" wrote:

"Dan" wrote in message

| Thanks! Does Gary S. Terhune, Glen, Chris Quirke, Alan Edwards, or
| any other MVP's know how to accomplish this task with the IRQ
| switching or can I research it myself on a web site. I give the most
| credit to my friend Jeff for reminding me to install the latest
| driver only for the hardware that is linked to the appropriate
| operating system.

I see you have successfully solved the IRQ problem on your own. Very
good! That is tough to do going by what I've read, as it could involve
BIOS, Device Manager settings, a physical switch on the device, the
physical location of the device, & even proprietary software to run says
Richards! SO, let us see the result...!...

(a) "START, Run, MSInfo32, Hardware Resources, IRQs"
(b) Use the "Edit" menu to copy & post it.

Here are mine...

0 System timer
1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
2 Programmable interrupt controller
3 Trident Blade3D/MVP4 (63)
3 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
4 Communications Port (COM1)
5 ESS Allegro-1 PCI AudioDrive
5 ESS Allegro-1 Device Manager
5 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
6 Standard Floppy Disk Controller
7 ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
8 System CMOS/real time clock
9 SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus
10 PCTEL Platinum V.90 Modem
10 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
11 VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
11 VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
11 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
12 WheelMouseIM (PS/2)
13 Numeric data processor
14 Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
14 VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller
15 Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
15 VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller


| "PCR" wrote:
|
| "Dan" wrote in message
|
| | I thank PCR and my friend Jeff for all of their help in getting me
| | back on firm ground again with a clean install of 98SE and an
| | over-install of XP Professional. The surprising thing was that at
| | the end XP Professional was becoming more unstable than 98SE. Yes,
| | XP Professional had the dreaded BSOD (Blue Screens of Death) that
| | were related to sound driver issues and 98SE also had the sound
| | driver issues from the Sound Blaster Audigy. Jeff reminded me of a
| | simple fact that I had completely forgotten about being away from
| | this newsgroup for so long. The fact about getting rid of
| | everything related to all the extra junk programs with the Sound
| | Blaster Audigy and just download and install the latest driver(s)
| | for your operating system from the in this case -- Creative
| | Support web site. I also downloaded some third party drivers for
| | full DOS sound support for Windows 98 Second Edition for my old
| | DOS games. Life is good. The only issue I have is how to have
| | the Sound Blaster Audigy address another IRQ besides IRQ 5 which
| | causes issues with the Sound Blaster DOS emulation. Does anyone
| | have any ideas for me? Thanks in advance for everyone's help and
| | it is good to see a lot of MVP's like Gary S. Terhune posting
| | again in this group. I feel glad to be back again. I even
| | remember back in the day when I was so scared of the Internet that
| | I used my roomate's computer to post and the posting always showed
| | up as Art. I know now that was deceitful but I am glad the group
| | was willing to forgive me and allow me to participate again. Dan
| | W. aka known as Art a while ago and also Dan/Dan W. when using
| | Mozilla Thunderbird as nospam.nec -- I think
|
| You are welcome, though I doubt it was much I did or said that got
| you back this far. Good going. As Philipson says & I may have said
| in an earlier thread-- CAREFUL NOT to load XP versions of software
| onto the Win98 side. Make sure you have a Win98 version for that
| Audigy!
|
| As far as IRQs, usually BIOS & Windows will make the correct
| decision. If they don't, it could be tough to play with. But it is
| possible!
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR




 




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