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CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS
Good news! Thanks for the update.
-- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Sandy" wrote in message ... Hi MEB & Gary, Just thought you'd like to know that following our thread a while back, there was sufficient ammo to hit Belkin with, and after some persuasion they reluctantly agreed to replace the NIC. I received this yesterday and installed it and, guess what, absolutely no problem! What a merry dance!! So once again, thanks ever so much to you guys for all your support and back-up over the months. All the best, Sandy. "MEB" wrote: Well, I think we pretty much agree. I would like to have known if the adapter was picked up [broadcasting] to the rest of the network, but there appears to be other issues within Sandy's system. I admit my memory is also a bit vague [and getting worse every day]. Yeah, you are right, there can be numerous issues with any of these wireless adapters, particularly in 98, though LinkSys *was* apparently a more successful pick. And I have to admit, since wireless is so insecure, that I avoid recommending or installing them, what with all the sniffer/hack tools readily available [free RADIUS, KARMA, etc.], they just aren't a good idea. Radio signal broadcasts just aren't secure for anything that might be considered as a network, unless of course, you're the government/military and a hack brings substantial prison time.. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________ "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message ... | As for whether or not the NIC installed properly and drivers, etc., when it | comes to *wireless* cards, MEB, I don't think you can necessarily call that | "wrong". It may be *another* part of the wireless system that isn't | functioning properly. And, as I said, WINIPCFG, to the best of my knowledge, | doesn't see wireless adapters. But I may be wrong, I've only once worked | with a new wireless adapter in a 98 machine, and the memory is a bit vague. | | But I agree, the unit should be returned and a new one tried. Even a | Linksys. | | -- | Gary S. Terhune | MS-MVP Shell/User | www.grystmill.com | | "MEB" meb@not wrote in message | ... | "Sandy" wrote in message | ... | | MEB, Gary, | | | | Right, I've revisited some of the points made earlier. I actually have | the | | modem/router in my property which my son & I setup together, inputting | all | | the MAC addresses of all PC's & security settings - reasonably | | straightforward on an Netgear and works well. I ran winipcfg and noted | my | | wireless adapter not even listed so there was no point in going any | further | | with that one. I checked with Belkin for any firmware revisions but, as | | suspected, there's no flash 'bios' as such on the card... all done | through | | inf. & sys. files in the installation software. | | | | Which brings me onto Gary's point. I've now retried versions 1 through | 3 | of | | the Belkin application software/drivers using the procedures that worked | in | | getting the drivers to install, and the same error message appears every | time | | on restart that I mentioned in my last post. When opening the "Utility" | | software I get the consistent message: "Incompatible driver version. | Unable | | to load application", then the Belkin utility window opens with "No | adapters" | | on the tab. Now, you can't tell me that 3 versions of drivers are all | | duff... incompatible! To me this is evidence of a duff card and goes | back | to | | the point I made originally about the ver.no. on the card ending in "ec" | & | | not "uk". If you go to the following link: | | | http://www.belkin.com/uk/support/art...uk&aid=6199&sc | id=0 | | you'll notice the picture shows this at the end of the model number | 'F5D7000' | | and all the software/drivers also end in 'uk' & not 'ec'. I believe | I've | got | | a card designed for European use & not UK use. I raised this with | Belkin | but | | they wouldn't comment. At this point in time I really cannot see the | problem | | being anything else than this, after exploring all other issues. Am I | right? | | | | Sandy. | | Could very well be, but I'm not sure why it would.. having tried the | corrections [and you have tried them all apparently] I would go more for a | bad adapter. | Searching Google for that particular model [ec] only turns up this | discussion... winipcfg showing nothing is not good... and the Belkin | software also unable to find it really is not good. But it doesn't matter, | if you bought the card, and contacted Belkin concerning it shortly after | purchase, then you have the material [the contacts] to request a | replacement | from Belkin. Another possibility: If the purchase was recent enough, try | to | return it to the store where purchased. | | Uhm, however, let's get this straight, you posted: | "OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke about last | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly, yes the | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there is a | problem | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I didn't do | that in the first place!" | | So in actuality, that wasn't correct, right [sorry we can only work with | what you present us] the NIC wasn't properly installed/recognized and the | drivers didn't load properly. Just a correction, as these posts are | referenced by others. | | As you have spent a large amount of time, I would re-contact Belkin and | tell them you need a new card [you have tried everything, have contacted | them, and the card does NOT work]. If you have another card around or can | borrow one, try that to see if it connects. Then you can point this out to | Belkin as well. | | BTW: going through and beyond the first few pages Google shows, does turn | up | some rather poor ratings for that adapter. | | -- | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | -- | _________ | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | | | "Sandy" wrote in message | | ... | | | Hi MEB, good to hear from you... yes, as far as I'm aware, my TCP/IP | | settings | | | are right. As far as the BIOS upgrade for the Belkin... I didn't | know | | there | | | was one, I'll check. I haven't gone down the road of pinging or | running | | | winipcfg as I thought the adapter had to be working first??? And | finally | | no, | | | I don't use ICS as the other computers belong to my son next door so | we | | have | | | no need to share files etc.! | | | Cheers, Sandy. | | | | | | | Okay, No ICS entries that might have conflicted. | | | | Are the other wireless connected computers able to SEE your problem | 98 | | computer {does it appear anywhere in your son's actual network [if he | is | the | | one with the wireless base unit]}? | | | | | | What Gary is suggesting is, that the adapter MIGHT be installed, but | the | | adapter in the 98 box is not connecting to the network, which will | cause | a | | network error. Errors like you are receiving can also occur [after an | | install] because the adapter can not connect to the network, hence it | is | an | | error. | | What you have posted is that the adapter "apparently" IS installed | [or | at | | least shown in the Network configuration]. | | AS YOU POSTED: | | Client for Microsoft Networks | | Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter | | Dial-Up Adapter | | TCP/IP-Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter | | TCP/IP-Dial-Up Adapter | | and... | | Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon. | | | | | | I use your "son as" the identifier below, but it refers to whoever has | the | | base transceiver and the actual unit. | | Your son MUST add your computer to his network or allow that address | in | the | | acceptable range OR you must be using the address range he has allowed | or is | | using as his network. If he setup static addressing then your computer | must | | also use a static address in the range he has allowed. You will also | need to | | use the same compression and security [WEP/WPA-PSK/WPA-2/whatever and | should | | be the same 64/128/etc., SSID{key}, etc. between the two - your | adapter | and | | his base transceiver, they MUST be the same. Recheck the | ENCRYPTION/SECURITY | | ISSUES and basic setup sections on my web page for details. | | | | Have you checked in the wireless base transceiver for what the actual | | network configuration is? The 98 computer MUST be using *that* network | | addressing range and the transciever address should/would be the | gateway | in | | your computer Belkin TCP/IP, hence the reason for running winipcfg, to | see | | if the adapter IS attempting to communicate, and whether *your* IP | address | | is in the *wireless base transceiver* range.. | | | | Any firewall between you and the transceiver MUST allow | access/talking | to | | occur. Check your computer firewall, and make sure it has the local | network | | allowance [the wireless network range]. IF you are running | Norton/Symantec | | or McAfee we need to know that specifically, and any other Anti-V, | | Anti-SpyWare, etc.. | | | | -- | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | -- | | _________ | | | | | | | "MEB" wrote: | | | | | | Sorry, slightly distracted. Did you check for proper TCP/IP | settings, or | | did | | | you not get that far? | | | | | | IF the card is shown, but not working properly AND you did check | the | | TCP/IP | | | and it is correct, did you check for an upgrade {BIOS} for the | device? | | | | | | Winipcfg Details {what}? | | | | | | Are you also using ICS in the system {or did you at one time?}? | | | | | | Did you try the ping diagnostics? | | | | | | -- | | | MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | | -- | | | _________ | | | |
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