PPP Adapter. in winipcfg

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:12:13 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

I know, let's get Mikey, er, Herbert to do the test!

Let us know how it goes, OK, Herbert?

Some tech support "girl" diagnoses win98 to do something on its own,
something never encountered by anyone else, and it's being treated as
if the definitive solution to this problem is to remove dial up
networking.

The "solution" is a workaround at best. There is no reason why the OP
can't have a stable broadband connection via his ethernet card *AND*
use dial up networking at the same time.


Jim.

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:14:53 +0800, "Herbert Chan"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Hello,

My pc is win98se and I have a broadband internet connection.

I have been using the broadband for a few years. And since the beginning of
this year, my internet connection will be intermittently lost. At first, I
thought something was wrong with the modem, which is terayon TA-102. I have
called the ISP to replace it. However, the problem is still there. Then I
tried to get used to it. Whenever I lose the connection, I will need to
reboot my computer to get the connection back (the modem does not need to be
flipped off then on).

I called the technical support again today, and we've looked at the modem
and it didn't appear that my modem was failing to provide a signal for me.
Then I run winipcfg and see that there are 3 entries: PPP Adapter.,
Microsoft TV/Video Connection and Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC. PPP adapter
is for dialup connection and Realtek is the network card for broadband. The
technical support girl said win98se will sometimes switch from the network
card to PPP adapter, although she doesn't know under what circumstances this
will happen. And the problem I've got is because my computer has switched
on its own accord from the network card to PPP adapter.

I have the same Realtek NIC and an ISA fax/modem in a Win98SE box.
FWIW, I have never had the problem you describe. In any case I can't
understand why the dial-up adapter should grab hold of your Internet
connection. Do you see any connection attempts in your modemlog? Is
there an rnaapp task running when you lose your ADSL connection (type
Ctrl+Alt+Del to see the running tasks)?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:14:53 +0800, "Herbert Chan"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Hello,

My pc is win98se and I have a broadband internet connection.

I have been using the broadband for a few years. And since the beginning of
this year, my internet connection will be intermittently lost. At first, I
thought something was wrong with the modem, which is terayon TA-102. I have
called the ISP to replace it. However, the problem is still there. Then I
tried to get used to it. Whenever I lose the connection, I will need to
reboot my computer to get the connection back (the modem does not need to be
flipped off then on).

I called the technical support again today, and we've looked at the modem
and it didn't appear that my modem was failing to provide a signal for me.
Then I run winipcfg and see that there are 3 entries: PPP Adapter.,
Microsoft TV/Video Connection and Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC. PPP adapter
is for dialup connection and Realtek is the network card for broadband. The
technical support girl said win98se will sometimes switch from the network
card to PPP adapter, although she doesn't know under what circumstances this
will happen. And the problem I've got is because my computer has switched
on its own accord from the network card to PPP adapter.

I have the same Realtek NIC and an ISA fax/modem in a Win98SE box.
FWIW, I have never had the problem you describe. In any case I can't
understand why the dial-up adapter should grab hold of your Internet
connection. Do you see any connection attempts in your modemlog? Is
there an rnaapp task running when you lose your ADSL connection (type
Ctrl+Alt+Del to see the running tasks)?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

He can, if he can find all the proper settings and nothing is reverting
those settings on some probably logical but apparently haphazard manner.
Others here have pointed to those some of those settings, but who knows if
they cover all the bases? Who knows what may be butting in and "fixing"
something?

If DUN isn't going to be used, the easiest thing to do is to uninstall it or
disable it. Gets rid of the problem permanently.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"James Egan" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:12:13 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

I know, let's get Mikey, er, Herbert to do the test!

Let us know how it goes, OK, Herbert?

Some tech support "girl" diagnoses win98 to do something on its own,
something never encountered by anyone else, and it's being treated as
if the definitive solution to this problem is to remove dial up
networking.

The "solution" is a workaround at best. There is no reason why the OP
can't have a stable broadband connection via his ethernet card *AND*
use dial up networking at the same time.


Jim.

He can, if he can find all the proper settings and nothing is reverting
those settings on some probably logical but apparently haphazard manner.
Others here have pointed to those some of those settings, but who knows if
they cover all the bases? Who knows what may be butting in and "fixing"
something?

If DUN isn't going to be used, the easiest thing to do is to uninstall it or
disable it. Gets rid of the problem permanently.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"James Egan" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:12:13 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

I know, let's get Mikey, er, Herbert to do the test!

Let us know how it goes, OK, Herbert?

Some tech support "girl" diagnoses win98 to do something on its own,
something never encountered by anyone else, and it's being treated as
if the definitive solution to this problem is to remove dial up
networking.

The "solution" is a workaround at best. There is no reason why the OP
can't have a stable broadband connection via his ethernet card *AND*
use dial up networking at the same time.


Jim.

Frank,

From what I find I don't believe the OP is using ADSL but is using cable, which in
no way could interfere with dialup. Well, I guess I shouldn't say "in no way", I've
seen stranger things happen.


Registrant:

HK Cable TV Ltd Cable Multi-Media Services
12/F., Cable TV Tower
Tsuen Wan
HK
No Valid City, No Valid State

Domain Name: HKCABLE.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
DNS, Administrator
12/F.,Cable TV Tower,9 Hoi Shing Road
Tsuen Wan
HK
+852 2112-7969 fax: +852 2112-7676

Record expires on 27-Jan-2007.
Record created on 27-Jan-1999.
Database last updated on 21-Oct-2006 21:32:27 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.110.1
DNS2.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.111.1


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:14:53 +0800, "Herbert Chan"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Hello,

My pc is win98se and I have a broadband internet connection.

I have been using the broadband for a few years. And since the beginning of
this year, my internet connection will be intermittently lost. At first, I
thought something was wrong with the modem, which is terayon TA-102. I have
called the ISP to replace it. However, the problem is still there. Then I
tried to get used to it. Whenever I lose the connection, I will need to
reboot my computer to get the connection back (the modem does not need to be
flipped off then on).

I called the technical support again today, and we've looked at the modem
and it didn't appear that my modem was failing to provide a signal for me.
Then I run winipcfg and see that there are 3 entries: PPP Adapter.,
Microsoft TV/Video Connection and Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC. PPP adapter
is for dialup connection and Realtek is the network card for broadband. The
technical support girl said win98se will sometimes switch from the network
card to PPP adapter, although she doesn't know under what circumstances this
will happen. And the problem I've got is because my computer has switched
on its own accord from the network card to PPP adapter.

I have the same Realtek NIC and an ISA fax/modem in a Win98SE box.
FWIW, I have never had the problem you describe. In any case I can't
understand why the dial-up adapter should grab hold of your Internet
connection. Do you see any connection attempts in your modemlog? Is
there an rnaapp task running when you lose your ADSL connection (type
Ctrl+Alt+Del to see the running tasks)?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Frank,

From what I find I don't believe the OP is using ADSL but is using cable, which in
no way could interfere with dialup. Well, I guess I shouldn't say "in no way", I've
seen stranger things happen.


Registrant:

HK Cable TV Ltd Cable Multi-Media Services
12/F., Cable TV Tower
Tsuen Wan
HK
No Valid City, No Valid State

Domain Name: HKCABLE.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
DNS, Administrator
12/F.,Cable TV Tower,9 Hoi Shing Road
Tsuen Wan
HK
+852 2112-7969 fax: +852 2112-7676

Record expires on 27-Jan-2007.
Record created on 27-Jan-1999.
Database last updated on 21-Oct-2006 21:32:27 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.110.1
DNS2.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.111.1


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:14:53 +0800, "Herbert Chan"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Hello,

My pc is win98se and I have a broadband internet connection.

I have been using the broadband for a few years. And since the beginning of
this year, my internet connection will be intermittently lost. At first, I
thought something was wrong with the modem, which is terayon TA-102. I have
called the ISP to replace it. However, the problem is still there. Then I
tried to get used to it. Whenever I lose the connection, I will need to
reboot my computer to get the connection back (the modem does not need to be
flipped off then on).

I called the technical support again today, and we've looked at the modem
and it didn't appear that my modem was failing to provide a signal for me.
Then I run winipcfg and see that there are 3 entries: PPP Adapter.,
Microsoft TV/Video Connection and Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC. PPP adapter
is for dialup connection and Realtek is the network card for broadband. The
technical support girl said win98se will sometimes switch from the network
card to PPP adapter, although she doesn't know under what circumstances this
will happen. And the problem I've got is because my computer has switched
on its own accord from the network card to PPP adapter.

I have the same Realtek NIC and an ISA fax/modem in a Win98SE box.
FWIW, I have never had the problem you describe. In any case I can't
understand why the dial-up adapter should grab hold of your Internet
connection. Do you see any connection attempts in your modemlog? Is
there an rnaapp task running when you lose your ADSL connection (type
Ctrl+Alt+Del to see the running tasks)?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Wow, the following information is pretty marvelous. I've no idea the details
of the ISP is so readily available.

It also indeed seems odd that if the computer will somehow jump to dialup on
its own accord. Right now, I've just tried the most primitive thing: I've
pulled the plug from my faxmodem and I haven't lost the connection for a
day. Hope this will be the solution.

If I drop connection again, I will uninstall the dialup option like what
Ingeborg said. And there are no dialup connections installed under Internet
options.

I will keep a copy of route print. Hopefully I won't lose my connection
again and so I don't need to compare the difference between the temp.txt.

Thank you for all your suggestions.

Herbert

"Brian A" gonefish'n@afarawaylake ¦b¶l¥ó
¤¤¼¶¼g...
Frank,

From what I find I don't believe the OP is using ADSL but is using
cable, which in
no way could interfere with dialup. Well, I guess I shouldn't say "in no
way", I've
seen stranger things happen.


Registrant:

HK Cable TV Ltd Cable Multi-Media Services
12/F., Cable TV Tower
Tsuen Wan
HK
No Valid City, No Valid State

Domain Name: HKCABLE.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
DNS, Administrator
12/F.,Cable TV Tower,9 Hoi Shing Road
Tsuen Wan
HK
+852 2112-7969 fax: +852 2112-7676

Record expires on 27-Jan-2007.
Record created on 27-Jan-1999.
Database last updated on 21-Oct-2006 21:32:27 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.110.1
DNS2.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.111.1


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:14:53 +0800, "Herbert Chan"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Hello,

My pc is win98se and I have a broadband internet connection.

I have been using the broadband for a few years. And since the
beginning of
this year, my internet connection will be intermittently lost. At
first, I
thought something was wrong with the modem, which is terayon TA-102. I
have
called the ISP to replace it. However, the problem is still there.
Then I
tried to get used to it. Whenever I lose the connection, I will need to
reboot my computer to get the connection back (the modem does not need
to be
flipped off then on).

I called the technical support again today, and we've looked at the
modem
and it didn't appear that my modem was failing to provide a signal for
me.
Then I run winipcfg and see that there are 3 entries: PPP Adapter.,
Microsoft TV/Video Connection and Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC. PPP
adapter
is for dialup connection and Realtek is the network card for broadband.
The
technical support girl said win98se will sometimes switch from the
network
card to PPP adapter, although she doesn't know under what circumstances
this
will happen. And the problem I've got is because my computer has
switched
on its own accord from the network card to PPP adapter.

I have the same Realtek NIC and an ISA fax/modem in a Win98SE box.
FWIW, I have never had the problem you describe. In any case I can't
understand why the dial-up adapter should grab hold of your Internet
connection. Do you see any connection attempts in your modemlog? Is
there an rnaapp task running when you lose your ADSL connection (type
Ctrl+Alt+Del to see the running tasks)?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Wow, the following information is pretty marvelous. I've no idea the details
of the ISP is so readily available.

It also indeed seems odd that if the computer will somehow jump to dialup on
its own accord. Right now, I've just tried the most primitive thing: I've
pulled the plug from my faxmodem and I haven't lost the connection for a
day. Hope this will be the solution.

If I drop connection again, I will uninstall the dialup option like what
Ingeborg said. And there are no dialup connections installed under Internet
options.

I will keep a copy of route print. Hopefully I won't lose my connection
again and so I don't need to compare the difference between the temp.txt.

Thank you for all your suggestions.

Herbert

"Brian A" gonefish'n@afarawaylake ¦b¶l¥ó
¤¤¼¶¼g...
Frank,

From what I find I don't believe the OP is using ADSL but is using
cable, which in
no way could interfere with dialup. Well, I guess I shouldn't say "in no
way", I've
seen stranger things happen.


Registrant:

HK Cable TV Ltd Cable Multi-Media Services
12/F., Cable TV Tower
Tsuen Wan
HK
No Valid City, No Valid State

Domain Name: HKCABLE.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
DNS, Administrator
12/F.,Cable TV Tower,9 Hoi Shing Road
Tsuen Wan
HK
+852 2112-7969 fax: +852 2112-7676

Record expires on 27-Jan-2007.
Record created on 27-Jan-1999.
Database last updated on 21-Oct-2006 21:32:27 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.110.1
DNS2.I-CABLE.COM 203.83.111.1


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:14:53 +0800, "Herbert Chan"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Hello,

My pc is win98se and I have a broadband internet connection.

I have been using the broadband for a few years. And since the
beginning of
this year, my internet connection will be intermittently lost. At
first, I
thought something was wrong with the modem, which is terayon TA-102. I
have
called the ISP to replace it. However, the problem is still there.
Then I
tried to get used to it. Whenever I lose the connection, I will need to
reboot my computer to get the connection back (the modem does not need
to be
flipped off then on).

I called the technical support again today, and we've looked at the
modem
and it didn't appear that my modem was failing to provide a signal for
me.
Then I run winipcfg and see that there are 3 entries: PPP Adapter.,
Microsoft TV/Video Connection and Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC. PPP
adapter
is for dialup connection and Realtek is the network card for broadband.
The
technical support girl said win98se will sometimes switch from the
network
card to PPP adapter, although she doesn't know under what circumstances
this
will happen. And the problem I've got is because my computer has
switched
on its own accord from the network card to PPP adapter.

I have the same Realtek NIC and an ISA fax/modem in a Win98SE box.
FWIW, I have never had the problem you describe. In any case I can't
understand why the dial-up adapter should grab hold of your Internet
connection. Do you see any connection attempts in your modemlog? Is
there an rnaapp task running when you lose your ADSL connection (type
Ctrl+Alt+Del to see the running tasks)?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:32:13 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

If DUN isn't going to be used,

Who knows what's going to be needed in the future? He may decide to
get a backup internet connection by dialup in case his broadband is
offline.

the easiest thing to do is to uninstall it or
disable it. Gets rid of the problem permanently.

DUN may not even be the problem. But assuming for a momrnt it *is*,
uninstalling it is a cop out not a solution.


Jim.