How to download images from US Patent Trade Office?

Can't directly gain access to images on the government website.

Here's what happened, did a search, found the patent, went to get
images and was told had to download some whiz bang plug-in to
view .tif format, because that was the only way the website would
supply them.

System Description
Win98SE
Opera 9.64, or
IE 6

When request image, get a yes/no offer to find out where to get plug-
in Yes, listed two URLs showing a list of free plug-ins compatible
with Opera 11.?, but the description said for Windows XP and above.
Still downloaded the .exe file, but it won't even run on Win98SE

I have Irfan View and know it can view the images, so ....

WORKAROUND:
Using Opera to view the image causes Opera to lock up sending me to a
plug-in update for Opera 11.?, but no plug-in for .tif is listed
there.
Change browser to IE and that shows a blank page with a small color
icon in the upper left corner. Click on that and ask for source. The
html source code clearly identifies the web URL for the image page, so
pasted that URL address into Opera and still got blank image, but at
least a request to save the .tif file. Did that for the 4 pages, and
now the Irfan viewer had no difficulty viewing each page from the HD

So there you have it, images are viewable on Win98, but the website
won't give them to me using either browser.

Any ideas of a more straight forward way?

Robert Macy wrote:

Can't directly gain access to images on the government website.

Here's what happened, did a search, found the patent, went to get
images and was told had to download some whiz bang plug-in to
view .tif format, because that was the only way the website would
supply them.

Try Irfanview (www.irfanview.com). It can handle TIFs just fine.

--
Tim Slattery

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

"Tim Slattery" wrote in message
...
Robert Macy wrote:

Can't directly gain access to images on the government website.

Here's what happened, did a search, found the patent, went to get
images and was told had to download some whiz bang plug-in to
view .tif format, because that was the only way the website would
supply them.

Try Irfanview (www.irfanview.com). It can handle TIFs just fine.




Otherwise just take a screen shot and save in "paint" or whatever

but Irfanview is well worth the small download

In message , philo
writes:

"Tim Slattery" wrote in message
.. .
Robert Macy wrote:

Can't directly gain access to images on the government website.

Here's what happened, did a search, found the patent, went to get
images and was told had to download some whiz bang plug-in to
view .tif format, because that was the only way the website would
supply them.

Try Irfanview (www.irfanview.com). It can handle TIFs just fine.




Otherwise just take a screen shot and save in "paint" or whatever

but Irfanview is well worth the small download


OP's fourth or fifth paragraph clearly said he already had IrfanView
(hasn't everybody!), but was just being given a _big_ runaround by the
website before he was able to actually download the .tif files. He was
asking if anyone knew about a quicker way.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

This area of 'when does a computer know that it doesn't know' is relatively
undeveloped. - Colin Barker (Computing, 1999-2-18 [p. 20])

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

OP's fourth or fifth paragraph clearly said he already had IrfanView
(hasn't everybody!)

I don't think I have IrfanView.

What's the exact name of the Irfanview exe file, and how exactly does it
find it's way onto a typical win-98 system? It's not supplied by
Microsoft as far as I know.

For anyone that's ever had MS Office, a program called "Photo Editor"
came included as one of several "Office Tools", though it did not
require Microsoft Office to operate. After Windows XP, Photo Editor
was replaced by Microsoft Office Picture Manager.

Look for a file called photoed.exe. I have two versions:

99030500 (aka version 3.01) March 5, 1999 (777,216 bytes)
20010710 (aka version 3.01.3) July 10, 2001 (777,728 bytes)

Photoed can open tif's - as large as 22 mb at least. But photoed has no
zoom function less than 100% or "fit to window" - so for large images
you can't see the entire image without scrolling up/down/left/right.

I zipped up my copy of photoed.exe and it can be downloaded from he

http://www.fileden .com/files/2008/7/19/2010382//PEDIT.ZIP

Yes, there is a double back-slash in that url.

------------
Remove the space after "fileden" for the URL to work. I had to add a
space because the NNTP server I'm using is using a filter that checks
for "banned domains" and apparently fileden . com is a banned domain so
I have to mung it slightly for this post to be accepted.
------------

When you unzip that, it will ask for a password. The password is "a"
(no quotes). That will unzip to photoed.zip, which you should unzip
he

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\

It should unzip into it's own "PhotoEd" directory at that location.
Besides the photoed.exe program file, there are about a dozen dll's and
a "1033" directory containing one dll file.

In message , 98 Guy writes:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

OP's fourth or fifth paragraph clearly said he already had IrfanView
(hasn't everybody!)

I don't think I have IrfanView.

What's the exact name of the Irfanview exe file, and how exactly does it
find it's way onto a typical win-98 system? It's not supplied by
Microsoft as far as I know.

On my system, it's "C:\Program Files\IrfanView\i_view32.exe", and it
found its way there by running
http://irfanview.tuwien.ac.at/iview430_setup.exe (only 1.44M! Though I'd
recommend running
http://irfanview.tuwien.ac.at/plugin..._430_setup.exe
afterwards to get the full benefit).

It's a very good picture viewer (well, started out as that; it now has
pretty good editing facilities too, and how he's kept it to floppy size
amazes me!).

For anyone that's ever had MS Office, a program called "Photo Editor"
came included as one of several "Office Tools", though it did not
require Microsoft Office to operate. After Windows XP, Photo Editor
was replaced by Microsoft Office Picture Manager.

IrfanView - probably because of its size (494KB for the executable on
here) - is far _quicker_ to open and run than the MS app., and certainly
than Paint Shop Pro or any similar. Give it a go. (It also has a lot of
keyboard shortcuts, that, once learned, make it even quicker to use.)

Look for a file called photoed.exe. I have two versions:

(Strange - I have MSOffice; I must have decided not to install it as I
have IView.)

99030500 (aka version 3.01) March 5, 1999 (777,216 bytes)
20010710 (aka version 3.01.3) July 10, 2001 (777,728 bytes)

Photoed can open tif's - as large as 22 mb at least. But photoed has no
zoom function less than 100% or "fit to window" - so for large images
you can't see the entire image without scrolling up/down/left/right.

IrfanView has zoom (+ and -), and will also toggle between fit to window
and full size just by pressing F.

I zipped up my copy of photoed.exe and it can be downloaded from he

http://www.fileden .com/files/2008/7/19/2010382//PEDIT.ZIP

Yes, there is a double back-slash in that url.

[I only see forward ones ... (-:]

------------
Remove the space after "fileden" for the URL to work. I had to add a
space because the NNTP server I'm using is using a filter that checks
for "banned domains" and apparently fileden . com is a banned domain so
I have to mung it slightly for this post to be accepted.
------------

When you unzip that, it will ask for a password. The password is "a"
(no quotes). That will unzip to photoed.zip, which you should unzip
he

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\
[]
Thanks - could be useful. But give IV a try!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

This area of 'when does a computer know that it doesn't know' is relatively
undeveloped. - Colin Barker (Computing, 1999-2-18 [p. 20])

On Jul 16, 6:07*am, 98 Guy wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

OP's fourth or fifth paragraph clearly said he already had IrfanView
(hasn't everybody!)

I don't think I have IrfanView. *

What's the exact name of the Irfanview exe file, and how exactly does it
find it's way onto a typical win-98 system? *It's not supplied by
Microsoft as far as I know.

For anyone that's ever had MS Office, a program called "Photo Editor"
came included as one of several "Office Tools", though it did not
require Microsoft Office to operate. * After Windows XP, Photo Editor
was replaced by Microsoft Office Picture Manager.

Look for a file called photoed.exe. *I have two versions:

99030500 (aka version 3.01) * March 5, 1999 (777,216 bytes)
20010710 (aka version 3.01.3) July 10, 2001 (777,728 bytes)

Photoed can open tif's - as large as 22 mb at least. *But photoed has no
zoom function less than 100% or "fit to window" - so for large images
you can't see the entire image without scrolling up/down/left/right.

I zipped up my copy of photoed.exe and it can be downloaded from he

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/...382//PEDIT.ZIP

Yes, there is a double back-slash in that url. *

------------
Remove the space after "fileden" for the URL to work. *I had to add a
space because the NNTP server I'm using is using a filter that checks
for "banned domains" and apparently fileden . com is a banned domain so
I have to mung it slightly for this post to be accepted.
------------

When you unzip that, it will ask for a password. *The password is "a"
(no quotes). *That will unzip to photoed.zip, which you should unzip
he

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\

It should unzip into it's own "PhotoEd" directory at that location.
Besides the photoed.exe program file, there are about a dozen dll's and
a "1033" directory containing one dll file.

Thank you for your reply and kind offer to give me PhotoEd.

This system has PhotoEd on it, and that application is the default for
opening .tif, and works great.

The problem is that the @#$#!!@# website won't give me the file.

On Jul 16, 6:07*am, 98 Guy wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

OP's fourth or fifth paragraph clearly said he already had IrfanView
(hasn't everybody!)

I don't think I have IrfanView. *

....snip...

I keep on the DeskTop two forms, an old one and a newer one
I think they were originally called:
iview336.exe 635KB
iview445_setup.exe 1.328MB
and be sure to get all the plug-ins
?? irfanview_plugins_425_setup.exe 7.848MB

Why two?
version 336 is FAST on this machine walks through a photo shoot
instantly
sadly, version 445 is slower almost 3 to 5 seconds each image.
HOWEVER, 445 has some built in image processing, fillling in small
images to produce some reall knock your socks off larger images,
whereas using 336 the image will look like small squares. With 445 you
can make the image very large, then screen capture with paint and then
re-open with irfanview and then save as a larger .jpg for whatever.
The image processing is very good. Actually, smooths out those square
boxes.

If you can't find let me know and I'll send directly.

In message
,
Robert Macy writes:
On Jul 16, 6:07*am, 98 Guy wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

OP's fourth or fifth paragraph clearly said he already had IrfanView
(hasn't everybody!)

I don't think I have IrfanView. *

...snip...

I keep on the DeskTop two forms, an old one and a newer one
I think they were originally called:
iview336.exe 635KB
iview445_setup.exe 1.328MB
and be sure to get all the plug-ins
?? irfanview_plugins_425_setup.exe 7.848MB

Why two?

I think one (the larger) might be the installer and the other the
running executable after installation. The plugins adds extra abilities
- handling of some of the less common image formats, and extra abilities
with some of the common ones (interpretation of EXIF data, and I think
editing of comments, in a .jp[e]g file, for example). Though Irfan does
recommend you use the plugin installer of the same issue as the main
prog. .
[]
If you can't find let me know and I'll send directly.

Latest ones are the links in my previous post.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future. The
learned usually find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer
exists. -- Eric Hoffer (quoted by Elsie McGill , 1997-6-1).

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

What's the exact name of the Irfanview exe file, and how exactly
does it find it's way onto a typical win-98 system?

On my system, it's "C:\Program Files\IrfanView\i_view32.exe",
and it found its way there by running

(...)

What I meant was -

It seems that a lot of people have irfanview, without necessarily
knowing how they got it or why it's on their system.

Was it distributed with another program?

IrfanView - probably because of its size (494KB for the executable
on here) - is far _quicker_ to open and run than the MS app.,

I wouldn't say that a 500 kb program (Irfanview) is "far quicker" to
load than a 800 kb program (Photo Editor).

A search on my win-98 system for *view32.exe gives me:

- view32.exe (apple quicktime picture viewer 2.1.2.59) 1996
- ppview32.exe (Microshaft PowerPoint viewer) version 8

neither one can read tifs. The quicktime picture viewer can only read
mac .PIC and .JPG files. It's 91 kb in size.