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Old February 28th 12, 05:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
pedro
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Default Transitioning FF - Opera - niggles ....

Certain websites have been causing me progressively more issues when
using FF (2.0.0.20). I noted in another thread that someone was
running Opera 10.63 so I installed that, and configured it to
hopefully do my bidding.

Unfortunately, there are two areas where I cannot for the life of me
get it to replicate the functionality I have with FF:

1. When I go to log on to certain sites, FF offers a drop-down
selection of my logon usernames if I click in the empty username box.
Not just autocomplete (although it does that too) - a dropdown list.
Not Opera - I have to type in the full username each time.

2. Remembering visited links - I use these as a marker to show where
I am up to in (say) browsing a category in fleabay. With FF that
marker is there next time I visit. WIth Opera, it dies with the
session.

Nothing at the Opera site helped, nor did "about: config" in the
address bar - that really only gave the Tools - Preferences
parameters via a different front-end.

Can anyone familiar with the inner workings of Opera point me in the
right direction?
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Old February 28th 12, 05:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Robert Macy[_2_]
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Default Transitioning FF - Opera - niggles ....

On Feb 27, 10:05*pm, pedro wrote:
Certain websites have been causing me progressively more issues when
using FF (2.0.0.20). *I noted in another thread that someone was
running Opera 10.63 so I installed that, and configured it to
hopefully do my bidding.

Unfortunately, there are two areas where I cannot for the life of me
get it to replicate the functionality I have with FF:

1. *When I go to log on to certain sites, FF offers a drop-down
selection of my logon usernames if I click in the empty username box.
Not just autocomplete (although it does that too) - a dropdown list.
Not Opera - I have to type in the full username each time.

2. *Remembering visited links - I use these as a marker to show where
I am up to in (say) browsing a category in fleabay. *With FF that
marker is there next time I visit. *WIth Opera, it dies with the
session.

Nothing at the Opera site helped, nor did "about: config" in the
address bar - that really only gave the Tools - Preferences
parameters via a different front-end.

Can anyone familiar with the inner workings of Opera point me in the
right direction?


did you post your question at the Opera's User Group website?
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/
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Old February 29th 12, 12:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
pedro
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Default Transitioning FF - Opera - niggles ....

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 09:17:19 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy
wrote:

On Feb 27, 10:05*pm, pedro wrote:
Certain websites have been causing me progressively more issues when
using FF (2.0.0.20). *I noted in another thread that someone was
running Opera 10.63 so I installed that, and configured it to
hopefully do my bidding.

Unfortunately, there are two areas where I cannot for the life of me
get it to replicate the functionality I have with FF:

1. *When I go to log on to certain sites, FF offers a drop-down
selection of my logon usernames if I click in the empty username box.
Not just autocomplete (although it does that too) - a dropdown list.
Not Opera - I have to type in the full username each time.

2. *Remembering visited links - I use these as a marker to show where
I am up to in (say) browsing a category in fleabay. *With FF that
marker is there next time I visit. *WIth Opera, it dies with the
session.

Nothing at the Opera site helped, nor did "about: config" in the
address bar - that really only gave the Tools - Preferences
parameters via a different front-end.

Can anyone familiar with the inner workings of Opera point me in the
right direction?


did you post your question at the Opera's User Group website?
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/


No. My experience with those is that the people who know the answer
look down their noses at those who ask "dumb questions". As both the
FF and Opera versions are "obsolete" they also tend to attract nothing
but sneers . I have a standing query in the FF forum about how to
DELETE a parameter which was inserted into the about:config page in
2.0.0.20 with a typo, and no responses.

I figure that this is a fairly basic feature that most Opera
immigrants would have experienced in their previous browser-of-choice
and would have come to grips with. I also value the fact that the
denizens of this n/g are in the same time warp as me.
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Old February 29th 12, 06:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default Transitioning FF - Opera - niggles ....

pedro wrote in
:

1. When I go to log on to certain sites, FF offers a drop-down
selection of my logon usernames if I click in the empty username box.
Not just autocomplete (although it does that too) - a dropdown list.
Not Opera - I have to type in the full username each time.


I don't know if it can conveniently set for any of several easily selected
names, but there is a form setting in the preferences that lets you fill in
stuff, then when logging into a site, you can use the key button just right
of the forward/backward navigation buttons. I imagine it fills in the details
needed, and may even use multiple identities, but I don't know. I never use
it. Tedious though it is, I just let it remember my name for the duration of
a session, and never remember any passwords. I find there is only one way to
maintain that habit, and that's to maintain it.
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Old February 29th 12, 09:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Franc Zabkar
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Default Transitioning FF - Opera - niggles ....

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:05:12 +0800, pedro put finger
to keyboard and composed:

Certain websites have been causing me progressively more issues when
using FF (2.0.0.20). I noted in another thread that someone was
running Opera 10.63 so I installed that, and configured it to
hopefully do my bidding.

Unfortunately, there are two areas where I cannot for the life of me
get it to replicate the functionality I have with FF:

1. When I go to log on to certain sites, FF offers a drop-down
selection of my logon usernames if I click in the empty username box.
Not just autocomplete (although it does that too) - a dropdown list.
Not Opera - I have to type in the full username each time.


In my older version (Opera 9.64), you can add some personal details in
the Tools - Preferences - Wand - Other tab. Maybe your version has
improved upon this?

You can r-click the box and then Insert Personal or Insert Note, or
you can place your cursor inside the box and then hit the down arrow.

Opera autocompletes your selection.

BTW, I have found opera.general to be a very helpful newsgroup.

- Franc Zabkar
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Old March 2nd 12, 07:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Etal
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Default Transitioning FF - Opera - niggles ....

pedro wrote:

As both the FF and Opera versions are "obsolete"
they also tend to attract nothing but sneers . I have a
standing query in the FF forum about how to DELETE a parameter
which was inserted into the about:config page in 2.0.0.20 with
a typo, and no responses.


"the FF forum" Which forum is that? I don't find your nick in
mozilla.support.firefox at the news.mozilla.org news-server.

Anyway;

Open 'about:config'.
Select the offending preference-entry in the list.
In the context-menu (pulled up by right-clicking) select 'Reset'.
Quit and then relaunch Firefox and verify that the entry have
disappeared from the 'about:config' preferences-list.


I also value the fact that the denizens of this n/g are in the
same time warp as me.


Hmm.., that makes me feel ...


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Old March 2nd 12, 10:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Default Transitioning FF - Opera - niggles ....

Etal wrote:

"the FF forum" Which forum is that? I don't find your nick in
mozilla.support.firefox at the news.mozilla.org news-server.


I've never gotten much of anything useful out of the usenet firefox
forums, or any on-line firefox / mozilla forums.

All I know is that I get white-line banding on bitmapped images when I
scroll web pages up and down when using firefox 3, and I'm not the only
one to see that. I've also tried the Avant browser and I see the same
thing.

That's mostly why I stick to using firefox 2.0.0.20, and use Opera 11.61
for very occasional use.

The problem with Opera and Windows-98 (that impacts me) is in terms of
Java. Which is that Opera version 10.something (and higher) requires
the use of the "next generation" of Java plugin, and this next-gen
plugin for the JRE doesn't work on win-98 (even with kernelEx).
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Old March 3rd 12, 12:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
who where[_2_]
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On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:59:44 -0600, Lostgallifreyan
wrote:

pedro wrote in
:

1. When I go to log on to certain sites, FF offers a drop-down
selection of my logon usernames if I click in the empty username box.
Not just autocomplete (although it does that too) - a dropdown list.
Not Opera - I have to type in the full username each time.


I don't know if it can conveniently set for any of several easily selected
names, but there is a form setting in the preferences that lets you fill in
stuff, then when logging into a site, you can use the key button just right
of the forward/backward navigation buttons. I imagine it fills in the details
needed, and may even use multiple identities, but I don't know. I never use
it.


That I have seen in Opera, but it isn't what I'm referring to. In FF2
if I type (or mis-type) a login username into say Yahoo mail, in
subsequent sessions if I click into the empty login username box it
will provide a drop-down showing all previous entries, including the
mis-typed ones (which I can fortunately select and delete in the
list). Not passwords, or the form-filling that Opera10 has under
Tools-Prefs-Forms.

There, if Tedious though it is, I just let it remember my name for the duration of
a session, and never remember any passwords. I find there is only one way to
maintain that habit, and that's to maintain it.


I never let FF or anything else remember my passwords (unless the app
does it by stealth) with the exception of a couple of benign forums
where I use autologon.
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Old March 3rd 12, 12:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
who where[_2_]
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On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:29:03 +1100, Franc Zabkar
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:05:12 +0800, pedro put finger
to keyboard and composed:

Certain websites have been causing me progressively more issues when
using FF (2.0.0.20). I noted in another thread that someone was
running Opera 10.63 so I installed that, and configured it to
hopefully do my bidding.

Unfortunately, there are two areas where I cannot for the life of me
get it to replicate the functionality I have with FF:

1. When I go to log on to certain sites, FF offers a drop-down
selection of my logon usernames if I click in the empty username box.
Not just autocomplete (although it does that too) - a dropdown list.
Not Opera - I have to type in the full username each time.


In my older version (Opera 9.64), you can add some personal details in
the Tools - Preferences - Wand - Other tab. Maybe your version has
improved upon this?


Franc, there is Tools - Prefs - Forms in O-10 which permits
recording everything short of bloodgroup, but that isn't what I'm
seeking. See the reply to LG.

You can r-click the box and then Insert Personal or Insert Note, or
you can place your cursor inside the box and then hit the down arrow.

Opera autocompletes your selection.

BTW, I have found opera.general to be a very helpful newsgroup.

- Franc Zabkar


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Old March 3rd 12, 01:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 20:01:17 +0100, Etal
wrote:

pedro wrote:

As both the FF and Opera versions are "obsolete"
they also tend to attract nothing but sneers . I have a
standing query in the FF forum about how to DELETE a parameter
which was inserted into the about:config page in 2.0.0.20 with
a typo, and no responses.


"the FF forum" Which forum is that? I don't find your nick in
mozilla.support.firefox at the news.mozilla.org news-server.


I can't find it from this machine. I just went looking for it but
www.mozilla.org has morphed plenty since I last went there (probably a
year back) but back then there was a (community?) forum for asking
support questions, and there was also a link to unanswered questions.
About a month after posting it, I found it in there about 500 down
from the latest post.

Anyway;

Open 'about:config'.
Select the offending preference-entry in the list.
In the context-menu (pulled up by right-clicking) select 'Reset'.
Quit and then relaunch Firefox and verify that the entry have
disappeared from the 'about:config' preferences-list.


It was causing repeated lockups. A complete
remove/reg-clean/reinstall removed the corrupted key, although the
lockups remain. One of the main reasons I am looking at Opera ...

I also value the fact that the denizens of this n/g are in the
same time warp as me.


Hmm.., that makes me feel ...


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