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networking 2 old computers
My parents have 2 old PC's that I need to network so my Dad can
archive files from the older unit to save to CD or at least to the newer units' hard drive. They have a Compaq Presario CDS 850 Model 340. this unit has a 486 running at 50 MHZ (486DX2 chip) still running Windows 3.1 OS. Their other unit is an HP Pavillion 65456 It has a Celleron chip and is running Windows 98, 2nd edition. A first thought I had was to pull the hard drive from the Compaq box and put it into the HP box and just drag the files out. However with some research I did today I think that's a no go since the Compaq has the IDE type drive interface and the HP has the ATA type drive interface. Neither of the boxes have ethernet nic's so I need to get those and any drivers for the boxes as well if someone would tell me which cards and how to set them for happy habitations in their homes. Does anyone have an extra nic for the compaq they wouldn't mind giving me? I do have what is supposed to be a cross-over cable for possible use and also happen to have a hub that I could throw into the mix if it would simplify the connections. Ben |
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IDE and ATA are the same thing, just different initials.
-- Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to. * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "ben daily" wrote in message m... My parents have 2 old PC's that I need to network so my Dad can archive files from the older unit to save to CD or at least to the newer units' hard drive. They have a Compaq Presario CDS 850 Model 340. this unit has a 486 running at 50 MHZ (486DX2 chip) still running Windows 3.1 OS. Their other unit is an HP Pavillion 65456 It has a Celleron chip and is running Windows 98, 2nd edition. A first thought I had was to pull the hard drive from the Compaq box and put it into the HP box and just drag the files out. However with some research I did today I think that's a no go since the Compaq has the IDE type drive interface and the HP has the ATA type drive interface. Neither of the boxes have ethernet nic's so I need to get those and any drivers for the boxes as well if someone would tell me which cards and how to set them for happy habitations in their homes. Does anyone have an extra nic for the compaq they wouldn't mind giving me? I do have what is supposed to be a cross-over cable for possible use and also happen to have a hub that I could throw into the mix if it would simplify the connections. Ben |
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I am familiar with one of those models. Furthermore, this
computer is a 486DX2. Perfectly fine for Internet use or as server (print and file) because it is not running pathetically slow and unstable Windows 3.1 or Windows 9x/Me Operating systems. You are advised to upgrade Compaq to Window NT 4.0 to increase hardware speed and (in case of Compaq) to be able to network. Windows 3.1 WFW (Windows for Workgroup) is required to network Win 3.1 systems without complications. Depends on the existing configuration of that Compaq 850. Mine was so full that no IRQs were available to properly use a network card. Be sure, before you do anything, to obtain in writing all the important I/O, DMA, and IRQ assignments. IOW make sure the ISA type network card can be assigned to your open IRQ number. Best to put NIC from same manufacturer in both machines. That way, the NIC manufacturer's diagnostics can echo data between both machines before using Windows and before doing complicated configurations. IOW NIC manufacturer diagnostics will confirm hardware is properly installed - so that hardware complications do not confuse your Windows setups and so that future failures can be quickly identified using manufacturer's diagnostics. You need not a hub for interconnecting computers. Furthermore, for what you want, even 10BASE2 (RG58 coax type network at 10 Mhz requires no cross-over cable) is more than fast enough. Remember, these may be ISA type machines. These type network cards are widely available for maybe $10 at most any used computer dealer. ben daily wrote: My parents have 2 old PC's that I need to network so my Dad can archive files from the older unit to save to CD or at least to the newer units' hard drive. They have a Compaq Presario CDS 850 Model 340. this unit has a 486 running at 50 MHZ (486DX2 chip) still running Windows 3.1 OS. Their other unit is an HP Pavillion 65456 It has a Celleron chip and is running Windows 98, 2nd edition. A first thought I had was to pull the hard drive from the Compaq box and put it into the HP box and just drag the files out. However with some research I did today I think that's a no go since the Compaq has the IDE type drive interface and the HP has the ATA type drive interface. Neither of the boxes have ethernet nic's so I need to get those and any drivers for the boxes as well if someone would tell me which cards and how to set them for happy habitations in their homes. Does anyone have an extra nic for the compaq they wouldn't mind giving me? I do have what is supposed to be a cross-over cable for possible use and also happen to have a hub that I could throw into the mix if it would simplify the connections. Ben |
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As Richard said, the interface is the same. Just install the Compaq's hard drive
into the H-P as a second drive, and drag the data file where you wish. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "ben daily" wrote in message m... My parents have 2 old PC's that I need to network so my Dad can archive files from the older unit to save to CD or at least to the newer units' hard drive. They have a Compaq Presario CDS 850 Model 340. this unit has a 486 running at 50 MHZ (486DX2 chip) still running Windows 3.1 OS. Their other unit is an HP Pavillion 65456 It has a Celleron chip and is running Windows 98, 2nd edition. A first thought I had was to pull the hard drive from the Compaq box and put it into the HP box and just drag the files out. However with some research I did today I think that's a no go since the Compaq has the IDE type drive interface and the HP has the ATA type drive interface. Neither of the boxes have ethernet nic's so I need to get those and any drivers for the boxes as well if someone would tell me which cards and how to set them for happy habitations in their homes. Does anyone have an extra nic for the compaq they wouldn't mind giving me? I do have what is supposed to be a cross-over cable for possible use and also happen to have a hub that I could throw into the mix if it would simplify the connections. Ben |
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ATA and IDE are essentially equivalent, yes.
Nope. Moving HDs from one PC, especially different makes with different bios, to another without altering the CHS perspective of the bios hardly happens. The CHS perspective affects the total makeup of the partition(s) and file locations. Networking the two PCs is the best idea for moving/copying data. Using a hub means using easier to find straight thru cable rather than cross-over cable. "glee" wrote in message ... As Richard said, the interface is the same. Just install the Compaq's hard drive into the H-P as a second drive, and drag the data file where you wish. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "ben daily" wrote in message m... My parents have 2 old PC's that I need to network so my Dad can archive files from the older unit to save to CD or at least to the newer units' hard drive. They have a Compaq Presario CDS 850 Model 340. this unit has a 486 running at 50 MHZ (486DX2 chip) still running Windows 3.1 OS. Their other unit is an HP Pavillion 65456 It has a Celleron chip and is running Windows 98, 2nd edition. A first thought I had was to pull the hard drive from the Compaq box and put it into the HP box and just drag the files out. However with some research I did today I think that's a no go since the Compaq has the IDE type drive interface and the HP has the ATA type drive interface. Neither of the boxes have ethernet nic's so I need to get those and any drivers for the boxes as well if someone would tell me which cards and how to set them for happy habitations in their homes. Does anyone have an extra nic for the compaq they wouldn't mind giving me? I do have what is supposed to be a cross-over cable for possible use and also happen to have a hub that I could throw into the mix if it would simplify the connections. Ben |
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It is simple enough to see what translation is used on the original Compaq (CHS,
LBA, or whatever), then autodetect the drive in the BIOS of the H-P, as a slave or secondary drive, using the same translation. Where's the problem? -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lil' Dave" wrote in message ... ATA and IDE are essentially equivalent, yes. Nope. Moving HDs from one PC, especially different makes with different bios, to another without altering the CHS perspective of the bios hardly happens. The CHS perspective affects the total makeup of the partition(s) and file locations. Networking the two PCs is the best idea for moving/copying data. Using a hub means using easier to find straight thru cable rather than cross-over cable. "glee" wrote in message ... As Richard said, the interface is the same. Just install the Compaq's hard drive into the H-P as a second drive, and drag the data file where you wish. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "ben daily" wrote in message m... My parents have 2 old PC's that I need to network so my Dad can archive files from the older unit to save to CD or at least to the newer units' hard drive. They have a Compaq Presario CDS 850 Model 340. this unit has a 486 running at 50 MHZ (486DX2 chip) still running Windows 3.1 OS. Their other unit is an HP Pavillion 65456 It has a Celleron chip and is running Windows 98, 2nd edition. A first thought I had was to pull the hard drive from the Compaq box and put it into the HP box and just drag the files out. However with some research I did today I think that's a no go since the Compaq has the IDE type drive interface and the HP has the ATA type drive interface. Neither of the boxes have ethernet nic's so I need to get those and any drivers for the boxes as well if someone would tell me which cards and how to set them for happy habitations in their homes. Does anyone have an extra nic for the compaq they wouldn't mind giving me? I do have what is supposed to be a cross-over cable for possible use and also happen to have a hub that I could throw into the mix if it would simplify the connections. Ben |
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