IE Running well so far

**Roger Fink** · May 28th 08, 12:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

I figured she could get it from here (not sure of that, however):
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

MEB wrote:
Unless some thing has changed, IE5.1 is the minimum to access and use
windowsupdate.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
I was a little too daunted by CdLSRN's long threads to finish reading
through them, I'm glad she is up and running again.
Anyway, a question. Last night I was installing Office97 in a laptop
and I noticed a folder on the CD, "VALUPACK". In VALUPACK there is a
folder IEXPLORE, and in the folder is the file IE4SETUP.EXE.

A lot of 98 users may still have this disk that came with their
$2200.00 PII desktops (and why not, it's a great program, and the
security updates can still be downloaded from Microsoft and burned
to CD). So the obvious question regarding Ginny's situation is, if
she had the Office97 disk could she have uninstalled IE6, installed
IE4, navigated to Microsoft.com and got IE6 going again from there?

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and
what disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief
was that the machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were
able to get rid of the firewall and a couple of other things, update
some apps, reinstall IE, etc. There is another firewall in the mix,
on the Belkin router, and it seems to be blocking Avast!, too. So we
discovered that leaving Web Shield out fixed the problem with
Avast!, just before their tech response, though it doesn't explain
how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was
completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the
original install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then
this cable company, all with their installations of branded stuff,
and the cable company's "reach into your system and FIX things"
umbilical, it's hard to sort stuff out. Cleaned up what was
necessary to clean up (machine will be replaced, soon.) Further
scans need to
be run and a HJT log done right.

Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU
and got three updates, but then went back and one kept being
reoffered. This was the issue:
http://www.computing.net/answers/win...em/163986.html

More to come if I remember more...

"CdLSRN" wrote in message
...
Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me
through this. Someone
sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was
able to run the
repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my
startup items with help
from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download
IE6sp1 zip from an
e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your
advice on just about
every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24
hours just going
through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I
think what did it is I
removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that
was the name. and I
only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web
protection or e-mail.
Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
I ran scandisk.
I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start
my computer any
referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had
are gone. A few
little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get
an error message
that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from
now on and send
messages right away. At least I can get online!!!
thank you all.

**MEB[_2_]** · May 28th 08, 03:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

Well, that's the stub installer, don't know whether it would still work or
not with 98.
But without browser access as was the case, that was as distant as the
moon.

Thanks for re-posting the link though.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
| I figured she could get it from here (not sure of that, however):
|
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
|
| MEB wrote:
| Unless some thing has changed, IE5.1 is the minimum to access and use
| windowsupdate.
|
| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|
| "Roger Fink" wrote in message
| ...
| I was a little too daunted by CdLSRN's long threads to finish reading
| through them, I'm glad she is up and running again.
| Anyway, a question. Last night I was installing Office97 in a laptop
| and I noticed a folder on the CD, "VALUPACK". In VALUPACK there is a
| folder IEXPLORE, and in the folder is the file IE4SETUP.EXE.
|
| A lot of 98 users may still have this disk that came with their
| $2200.00 PII desktops (and why not, it's a great program, and the
| security updates can still be downloaded from Microsoft and burned
| to CD). So the obvious question regarding Ginny's situation is, if
| she had the Office97 disk could she have uninstalled IE6, installed
| IE4, navigated to Microsoft.com and got IE6 going again from there?
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and
| what disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief
| was that the machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were
| able to get rid of the firewall and a couple of other things, update
| some apps, reinstall IE, etc. There is another firewall in the mix,
| on the Belkin router, and it seems to be blocking Avast!, too. So we
| discovered that leaving Web Shield out fixed the problem with
| Avast!, just before their tech response, though it doesn't explain
| how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was
| completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.
|
| I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the
| original install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then
| this cable company, all with their installations of branded stuff,
| and the cable company's "reach into your system and FIX things"
| umbilical, it's hard to sort stuff out. Cleaned up what was
| necessary to clean up (machine will be replaced, soon.) Further
| scans need to
| be run and a HJT log done right.
|
| Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU
| and got three updates, but then went back and one kept being
| reoffered. This was the issue:
|
http://www.computing.net/answers/win...em/163986.html
|
| More to come if I remember more...
|
|
| "CdLSRN" wrote in message
| ...
| Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me
| through this. Someone
| sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was
| able to run the
| repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my
| startup items with help
| from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download
| IE6sp1 zip from an
| e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your
| advice on just about
| every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24
| hours just going
| through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I
| think what did it is I
| removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that
| was the name. and I
| only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web
| protection or e-mail.
| Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
| I ran scandisk.
| I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start
| my computer any
| referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had
| are gone. A few
| little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get
| an error message
| that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from
| now on and send
| messages right away. At least I can get online!!!
| thank you all.
|
|

**Gary S. Terhune[_2_]** · May 28th 08, 03:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

**Gary S. Terhune[_2_]** · May 28th 08, 04:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

It's not that important. Just a curiosity. What I'm more interested in is
that it be up to date. WU Optional Updates offered what I thought was just
going to be MSXML 4.0 SP2 (or whatever the latest version is), but it turned
out to include the SDK. Haven't checked to see if the file versions got
updated, if I can get rid of the SDK without removing updated files, if any,
etc. As noted elsewhere, the machine is a bit of a mess, and my goal was to
get the lady back up and running, with at least most bases covered, until
she gets her new machine. Until then, she has her hands full with what
amounts to two sets of personal files (one provided by an Apple distributor
who in the end didn't impress Ginny) and she's not sure if anything new was
saved to the duplicate set, so at some point she either has to take it on
faith that nothing new was saved to the new folder, or that she is willing
to let go of any new files in that folder. Or find a decent file compare
app. There isn't enough room on her HD to maintain the duplicates forever.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Etal" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:

The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the [msXML4*.*] files
haven't been (security-)updated since originally installed.
Then i would check their creation date, and then search the
HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many files
created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date. Unfortunately the
result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column but many times, sometimes
even if the application responsible for installing the files under
investigation have been uninstalled, there are other tell-tale files left
behind that can shed light on it.

--
"They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your tongue
They got mystery written all over their forehead"

**Gary S. Terhune[_2_]** · May 28th 08, 04:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

Hi, Angel! How ya doin'? I didn't know that about Yahoo! Mail.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Angel" wrote in message
...
Hi all,
You can also use that method in the yahoo web mail.
Angel

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
: If you follow proper security habits, including setting email apps to
only
: read messages in Plain Text, you never have to worry about any viruses
: getting in. Doesn't matter what client you use. If you get a POS HTML
email
: that can't be read in PT, and you trust the source, then you can change
to
: view in HTML (in OE, anyway.)
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS-MVP Shell/User
: www.grystmill.com
:
: wrote in message
: ...
: I should have mentioned that Outlook Express is very poor software
: that will allow viruses to infect your computer. I wont even allow
: that POS on my computer. I deleted the entire directory many years
: ago. I'd highly recommend finding another email software as well as
: another usenet software. (some do both, such as the newer versions of
: Agent).
:

**Gary S. Terhune[_2_]** · May 28th 08, 04:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

Which was why I emailed it to her, and then it turned out she only had a few
MB of free space left on the disk. Less than a hundred MB *before* she
received the IE files.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
Well, that's the stub installer, don't know whether it would still work or
not with 98.
But without browser access as was the case, that was as distant as the
moon.

Thanks for re-posting the link though.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
| I figured she could get it from here (not sure of that, however):
|
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
|
| MEB wrote:
| Unless some thing has changed, IE5.1 is the minimum to access and use
| windowsupdate.
|
| --
| MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|
| "Roger Fink" wrote in message
| ...
| I was a little too daunted by CdLSRN's long threads to finish reading
| through them, I'm glad she is up and running again.
| Anyway, a question. Last night I was installing Office97 in a laptop
| and I noticed a folder on the CD, "VALUPACK". In VALUPACK there is a
| folder IEXPLORE, and in the folder is the file IE4SETUP.EXE.
|
| A lot of 98 users may still have this disk that came with their
| $2200.00 PII desktops (and why not, it's a great program, and the
| security updates can still be downloaded from Microsoft and burned
| to CD). So the obvious question regarding Ginny's situation is, if
| she had the Office97 disk could she have uninstalled IE6, installed
| IE4, navigated to Microsoft.com and got IE6 going again from there?
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and
| what disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief
| was that the machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were
| able to get rid of the firewall and a couple of other things, update
| some apps, reinstall IE, etc. There is another firewall in the mix,
| on the Belkin router, and it seems to be blocking Avast!, too. So we
| discovered that leaving Web Shield out fixed the problem with
| Avast!, just before their tech response, though it doesn't explain
| how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was
| completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.
|
| I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the
| original install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then
| this cable company, all with their installations of branded stuff,
| and the cable company's "reach into your system and FIX things"
| umbilical, it's hard to sort stuff out. Cleaned up what was
| necessary to clean up (machine will be replaced, soon.) Further
| scans need to
| be run and a HJT log done right.
|
| Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU
| and got three updates, but then went back and one kept being
| reoffered. This was the issue:
|
http://www.computing.net/answers/win...em/163986.html
|
| More to come if I remember more...
|
|
| "CdLSRN" wrote in message
| ...
| Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me
| through this. Someone
| sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was
| able to run the
| repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my
| startup items with help
| from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download
| IE6sp1 zip from an
| e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your
| advice on just about
| every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24
| hours just going
| through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I
| think what did it is I
| removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that
| was the name. and I
| only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web
| protection or e-mail.
| Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
| I ran scandisk.
| I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start
| my computer any
| referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had
| are gone. A few
| little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get
| an error message
| that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from
| now on and send
| messages right away. At least I can get online!!!
| thank you all.
|
|

**CdLSRN** · May 28th 08, 04:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

In add/remove programs I have OEQ823353 only not KB.
and no 837009.
"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353. But I'm not clear
that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so I'm not sure.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are there still issues
with it? Just curious..

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
| The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and what
| disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief was that
the
| machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able to get rid of
the
| firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps, reinstall IE,
etc.
| There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin router, and it seems
to
| be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving Web Shield out
fixed
| the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response, though it
doesn't
| explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was
| completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.
|
| I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the
original
| install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then this cable
company,
| all with their installations of branded stuff, and the cable company's
| "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's hard to sort
stuff
| out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine will be
replaced,
| soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done right.
|
| Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU and
got
| three updates, but then went back and one kept being reoffered. This was
the
| issue:
| http://www.computing.net/answers/win...em/163986.html
|
| More to come if I remember more...
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
|
| "CdLSRN" wrote in message
| ...
| Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through
this.
| Someone
| sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able
to
| run the
| repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup
| items with help
| from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download
IE6sp1
| zip from an
| e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your
advice
on
| just about
| every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24
hours
| just going
| through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think
what
| did it is I
| removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that was
the
| name. and I
| only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web
protection
| or e-mail.
| Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
| I ran scandisk.
| I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my
| computer any
| referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had are
| gone. A few
| little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get an
| error message
| that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from now
on
| and send
| messages right away. At least I can get online!!!
| thank you all.
|
|
|
|

**CdLSRN** · May 28th 08, 05:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

I have Office2000 Small Business. Ginny

"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
I was a little too daunted by CdLSRN's long threads to finish reading
through them, I'm glad she is up and running again.
Anyway, a question. Last night I was installing Office97 in a laptop and I
noticed a folder on the CD, "VALUPACK". In VALUPACK there is a folder
IEXPLORE, and in the folder is the file IE4SETUP.EXE.

A lot of 98 users may still have this disk that came with their $2200.00 PII
desktops (and why not, it's a great program, and the security updates can
still be downloaded from Microsoft and burned to CD). So the obvious
question regarding Ginny's situation is, if she had the Office97 disk could
she have uninstalled IE6, installed IE4, navigated to Microsoft.com and got
IE6 going again from there?

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and
what disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief
was that the machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were
able to get rid of the firewall and a couple of other things, update
some apps, reinstall IE, etc. There is another firewall in the mix,
on the Belkin router, and it seems to be blocking Avast!, too. So we
discovered that leaving Web Shield out fixed the problem with Avast!,
just before their tech response, though it doesn't explain how the
no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast! was completely
uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.

I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the
original install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then
this cable company, all with their installations of branded stuff,
and the cable company's "reach into your system and FIX things"
umbilical, it's hard to sort stuff out. Cleaned up what was necessary
to clean up (machine will be replaced, soon.) Further scans need to
be run and a HJT log done right.

Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU
and got three updates, but then went back and one kept being
reoffered. This was the issue:
http://www.computing.net/answers/win...em/163986.html

More to come if I remember more...

"CdLSRN" wrote in message
...
Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me through
this. Someone
sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was able
to run the
repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my startup
items with help
from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download
IE6sp1 zip from an
e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your
advice on just about
every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24
hours just going
through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I think
what did it is I
removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that
was the name. and I
only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web
protection or e-mail.
Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
I ran scandisk.
I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start my
computer any
referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had
are gone. A few
little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get
an error message
that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from
now on and send
messages right away. At least I can get online!!!
thank you all.

**CdLSRN** · May 28th 08, 05:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

My msxml4.dll, msxml4a.dll, and msxml4r.dll, were all modified on February 4,2002. I
bought the machine from Dell in 1999. XPS T450, desktop. Ginny

"Etal" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:

The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and

If you think it is of importance to find out, and if the
[msXML4*.*] files haven't been (security-)updated since
originally installed.
Then i would check their creation date, and then search the
HardDiskVolumes for files created that date. If there are many
files created that day, i'd sort files by modification-date.
Unfortunately the result-list doesn't have a Creation-date column
but many times, sometimes even if the application responsible for
installing the files under investigation have been uninstalled,
there are other tell-tale files left behind that can shed light
on it.

--
"They can be a terror to your mind and show you how to hold your
tongue
They got mystery written all over their forehead"

**Gary S. Terhune[_2_]** · May 28th 08, 05:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion

Wish I could remember what that "Q" stands for (Query?)... Used to be Q*****
was the naming format for any patch, and it is still used. KB = Knowledge
Base and the KB article that explained a Q patch came with the same
following digits Then there's the Technet Security Bulletins named MS04-018,
for instance. These various naming conventions are all used in various
places to name the patch, and you never know how it's going to appear in any
particular place.

As noted, we replaced KB837009 with KB823353, which is why KB837009 still
doesn't appear in Add/Remove Programs. In essence, it was Removed. If you'd
looked in between the Updates, you'd have seen 837009 listed, but the
installation of 823353 removed it..

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"CdLSRN" wrote in message
...
In add/remove programs I have OEQ823353 only not KB.
and no 837009.
"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
Uninstalled 823353, installed 837009, reinstalled 82353. But I'm not
clear
that that was the thing to do. We were getting blitzy, so I'm not sure.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
Did you fix it with /N:V fix, or the reg entry, or are there still
issues
with it? Just curious..

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
| The mystery still remains as to where MSXML 4.0 SP1 came from, and
what
| disappeared those three other files, but what caused some grief was
that
the
| machine was out of disk space. So we made some, were able to get rid
of
the
| firewall and a couple of other things, update some apps, reinstall
IE,
etc.
| There is another firewall in the mix, on the Belkin router, and it
seems
to
| be blocking Avast!, too. So we discovered that leaving Web Shield out
fixed
| the problem with Avast!, just before their tech response, though it
doesn't
| explain how the no-browser-allowed problem was occurring when Avast!
was
| completely uninstalled. Whatever, it's worked all day, today.
|
| I suspect further malware, but the system is 98 Original and is the
original
| install. Had AOL for various years, then EarthLink, then this cable
company,
| all with their installations of branded stuff, and the cable
company's
| "reach into your system and FIX things" umbilical, it's hard to sort
stuff
| out. Cleaned up what was necessary to clean up (machine will be
replaced,
| soon.) Further scans need to be run and a HJT log done right.
|
| Had a problem with Outlook Express after reinstall of IE. Went to WU
and
got
| three updates, but then went back and one kept being reoffered. This
was
the
| issue:
|
http://www.computing.net/answers/win...em/163986.html
|
| More to come if I remember more...
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
|
| "CdLSRN" wrote in message
| ...
| Thank you everyone! I really appreciate you sticking with me
through
this.
| Someone
| sent me the 3 DLL files I was missing. I installed them and was
able
to
| run the
| repair tool for IE6SP1. But that didn't help. I cleaned up my
startup
| items with help
| from the group. I deleted a lot of unnecessary files. I download
IE6sp1
| zip from an
| e-mail and Gary walked my through the overinstall. I follow your
advice
on
| just about
| every post. Forgive me for not answering all but we spent about 24
hours
| just going
| through this. This is my third day and we are finally fixed. I
think
what
| did it is I
| removed my firewall.....'Trial of Transgressions'....I think that
was
the
| name. and I
| only use Avast resident protection (virus scanner).....not web
protection
| or e-mail.
| Spybot tea timer removed, as Gary said.
| I ran scandisk.
| I did so many things it's hard to remember them all. When I start
my
| computer any
| referral to ports, or joysticks, or the soundcard that I never had
are
| gone. A few
| little quirks remain such as when I try to send this e-mail, I get
an
| error message
| that the outbox can't be opened. So I will bypass the outbox from
now
on
| and send
| messages right away. At least I can get online!!!
| thank you all.
|
|
|
|

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