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Old February 16th 12, 12:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Lee wrote in news:25d5b0c0-d023-4d66-acfe-
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Sorry to expose your prejudices in public like this, but the rural
poor really do have to live with dial up speeds and the decided lack
of decent 'give away' computers such as you describe. What I got
instead is a big city recycler who wants $800 for the system you
describe as walking away with me from some non-exsistant dump site.
They don't have drop-off depots at these rural, EPA compliant
landfills, just the recycler in the big city who wants $80 for a 5.25
inch floppy drive.


That sounds closer to the truth than his view, I remember a guy who was in
the Californian mountains, and alternately and frequently praised and
chastised the ISP's 'single transistor'.

The best way to build on the cheap is to get locally some old machine with a
case and a decent PSU, doesn't matter what's in it. A crude guide to a good
PSU is weight, the heavier, the better. It really DOES work that way because
good ones make better use of space, densely packing inductor cores and
heatsinking.

After you have that, get the rest on eBay. Given how much research has to go
into building a machine, it's easy to spot the flakes and frauds and buy from
a good seller who knows and cares about what they sell. Most computer innards
are small and light and cheap to mail long distances. It makes no sense to
limit to a locality for this. When people want specific cound cards, they do
it globally. I sold an Echo Darla 20 bit PCI card to a guy in eastern Europe,
Latvia I think.

When eBay sellers only have a picyure of their company logo and want 200
bucks to ship a SINGLE TRANSISTOR (did I mention those? overseas, stay
well away, never mind the eighty dollar 5" drive, there are some REAL
shysters on eBay. True insanity, some of it. No-one but a moron spending govt
money would even consider buying, looking at their 'completed listing' shows
the desert those guys make for themselves. I have to wonder why they do it.
Making themslves look that special, that expensive, just isolates them so
much that they can't trade, so if they DO trade, they're using the impossible
front, as a literal front, for something they're not declaring, something
hidden behind the usual law-book of terms and conditions they flood their
eBay pages with. Which is another damn good reason not to get involved with
them. One day the FBI may go through their records and find your details on
them. Probably wise not to go there... (I discovered I'd traded with a guy
who was using me and others to run a shipping-based tax fraud. He was
EXTREMELY polite and generous to me when I gently pointed it out to him,
but I'm sure they're not all that obliging).

So apart from some really strange stuff to avoid, eBay usually helps a lot
more than not.