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Old January 24th 12, 04:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Robert Macy[_2_]
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Default How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed

On Jan 23, 4:05*pm, 98 Guy wrote:
Robert Macy wrote:
Thank you for the DETAILED step by steps, Those steps are NOT
obvious.


For normal browsing I use Opera 9.64, but somehow it doesn't even
know I have Java installed. *So I used IE6 to get by on these
'pesky' websites, then it's back to Opera.


I think that there might be a problem with Opera and Java - at least
I've never gotten java working for the version of Opera that I have
(11.01).

I know there used to be a few die-hard (or blow-hardt) Opera fans here -
maybe they can help you get Java working.

There should be a Java applet under Start - Settings - Control Panel.
If you open it, and go to the Advanced tab, and expand the "Default Java
for browsers" section, you might see

Microsoft Internet Explorer
Mozilla Family

With a checkbox beside each one. *Now, I've never seen "Opera" show up
in that list - maybe you have it, maybe not. *If you do, and if it's not
checked, then put a check in the box.

And by the way, is there a reason why you're so insistent to NOT try
Firefox 2.0.0.20 instead of sticking to IE6?

You're really putting yourself at a disadvantage by not trying it. *It
*does* work with Java and Flash.

However, I have a new problem. octave 2.1.50 [which I NEED!] opens
and immediately closes now. *I suspect that the kernelex may be
doing that, but don't know. *I installed 1.5.11 and kernelex 4.5 ??
Any ideas? *I will of course try uninstalling octave then
reinstalling since that is the simplest. but arrrrgggg!


Use your file explorer and find the executable file for Octave, and
right-click on it and select properties.

When you have KernelEx installed on a win-98 system, any time you bring
up the file properties for code files (exe, dll, etc) you will see a new
tab labelled "KernelEx".

So find your Octave exe file, right-click and select properties, and
then click the KernelEx tab.

The basic option for all code files is "Use default compatibility
options".

To fix the problem with Octave, you can select either

- Disable KernelEx extensions
- use specific compaitiblity mode

I would first try to disable KernelEx, and if that doesn't work, try a
specific mode and select "Windows 98".

This is generally what you do when you have any application program that
doesn't run properly after you install KernelEx.


guess time to use Firefox, as the 'extra' browser.

I installed KernelEx, found octave wouldn't work properly, so
uninstalled and reinstalled octave, thinking something was broken.

After doing that I then found that right clicking/properties on all
the shortcuts has a new tab, KernelEx! When I selected octave's
shortcut and checked disable, indeed octave opens and operates. BUT!
all the paths, and libraries aren't found now.

So, does that mean SEQUENCE is important, or will octave always lose
stuff now?

If I go back and uninstall KernelEX and then reinstall octave and then
reinstall KernelEx; it should work correctly. right?

But, this brings up interesting problems, suppose for some reason I
must start again:
Install KernelEx
Install program that NEEDS KernelEx
Need to install program 'pre'kernelex and program will not operate
properly if installed with KernelEx installed?
what happens if KernelEx is uninstalled out form under, say the flash
player? Does that cause a problem?

Or, Is it that everytime I want to reinstall a Win98 version of
something I need to remove EVERYTHING KernelEx needs and then remove
KernelEX and then reinstall everything back in exact sequence?

I guess the important question is:
Do you know if installing a Win98 program the program is badly
affected by having KernelEx already installed?