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Old January 22nd 12, 08:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default How to gain access to websites that require latest Java installed

Robert Macy wrote:

took a while to go through all those sites!

The most impressive is the commercial software from Java is 15MB and
the 'free' software from sourceforge is 223kB, and works!


I'm not sure if you're making a functional comparison between Java and
KernelEx - but just to be clear they do two very different things.

But yes, java is a larger download file.

I downloaded and installed kernelex, which required a unicode
install?! I know I had installed that earlier, but seems to do it
again.


Yes, KernelEx requires the windows 98 unicode update file from
Microsoft.

IE6 recognized the Java and the kernel and did open and navigate
that sample website.


What version of the Java JRE do you have (or should I ask - which
version did you download and install?).

There is a trick to installing JRE version 6 update 8 and higher on
windows 98 systems.

You should not be using IE6 for general web-browsing. That browser has
been doing a horrible job of rending web content for the past 4 to 5
years.

I use Firefox version 2.0.0.20 on my win-98 systems. It's much more
compatible at rendering web content than IE6 is.

It can be downloaded from he

http://www.oldapps.com/firefox.php?o...fox=7?download

KernelEx can't help you run other versions of IE (like IE7, IE8, etc) on
Windows 98. IE6 is the last version that can run on Windows 98, and
I've said many times that win-98 users should have migrated or moved
away from IE 5 years ago and started to use Firefox - or Opera.

KernelEx allows win-98 to run recent versions of Firefox and Opera, but
I've had issues with version 3.x of firefox and haven't bothered to try
to resolve them since version 2.0.0.20 works good the vast majority of
the time. I have version 10 or 11 of Opera that I rarely use but I keep
on hand when I encounter a website I really want to access but my
version of firefox won't render properly.

You should install Java and Adobe Flash *after* you

1) install kernelEx
2) install firefox and/or Opera

There are some tricks to installing Java version 6 update 8 and higher.

There are some tricks to installing Flash also.

Next, got to figure out how to run M$ Silverlight to gain access
to the GIS maps that MY tax dollars pay for, but I don't benefit
from!


I don't believe that anyone has gotten silverlight to run under win-98.
Then again, I don't think many people have tried.

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Java version 6 update 23:

http://kojo.googlecode.com/files/jre...ndows-i586.exe

Do not double-click that program to run it. Instead, go to Start, Run,
and enter this command:

jre-6u23-windows-i586.exe /s

You will be running it by invoking it using the /s (silent install)
command-line option. This is basically the only way to get it to
install itself on a win-98 system. You might have to add the
appropriate path to that line so you don't get a "file not found"
error. After it installs itself, the next step is this: Go to this
folder:

program files\Java\jre6\bin

and rename the directory called "nextgen-plugin-folder" to something
else (doesn't matter what you call it). The last step is this: Go to
your control panel, (start, settings, control panel), double-click on
Java, go to the Advanced tab, click on the (+) beside "Java Plug-in",
and remove the check in the "Enable the next-generation Java Plug-in"
box.
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Instructions for modifying Windows 98 for installation of Adobe Flash:

If this key does not exist, then create it:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion
In that key, create a new string value and call it "CurrentVersion".
For it's value, make it "5.2"

Navigate to this key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion
Change the value for Version from "Windows 98" to "Windows NT"
Change VersionNumber from "4.10.2222" to "5.20".

Remember - change the VALUE of those strings - don't change their NAMES
by renaming them. To change their value, right-click on them and select
MODIFY.

Then go to the Adobe website and download the flash installer:

http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

But remove the check-mark for "Yes, install McAfee Security Scan Plus"
before hitting the download button.

After you install Flash, it's probably a good idea to go back to the
above registry settings and change them back to what they were
originally.