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Old January 24th 12, 04:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Robert Macy wrote:

And by the way, is there a reason why you're so insistent to NOT
try Firefox instead of sticking to IE6?

guess time to use Firefox, as the 'extra' browser.

Why is IE6 your "first" browser?

People using XP and higher have the "luxury" or ability to use more
recent versions of IE (like IE8) if they like IE. People using
win-9x/me don't have the ability to use more recent versions of IE -
they (we) are stuck with IE6.

And like I've said for several years now, IE6 is a horrible browser even
when compared to the 4-year-old version of Firefox (

I still want to know why you're so fixated on using IE6 as your default
or main web-browser. You must surely see how poorly it renders many web

When I selected octave's shortcut and checked disable, indeed
octave opens and operates. BUT! all the paths, and libraries
aren't found now.

So, does that mean SEQUENCE is important, or will octave always
lose stuff now?

KernelEx will -NOT- affect how or where an application program keeps
it's files and settings or the ability of a program to find it's own

If you remember the instructions I gave you in a previous post - about
making a change in the registry that identifies which version of Windows
you have, and for the purpose of installing Flash to set that
information to make it seem that your system is running some version of
NT (specifically, Windows XP).

If you made those changes during the course of installing Flash, you
should then set that information back to what it was - to indicate that
your system is running Windows 98. If you don't, any new software you
install will think you are running NT/XP and will *probably* store user
and program data files in locations more consistent with NT/XP.

If I go back and uninstall KernelEX and then reinstall octave and then
reinstall KernelEx; it should work correctly. right?

Don't un-install kernelEx.

If you made the registry changes I mentioned in a previous post, then
now you must un-do them.

What you *SHOULD* do is un-install Octave, and then do this: Find the
Octave installation file (the one you launch to start the octave
installation process) and right-click on the file and select properties
and change it's KernelEx setting to "disable KernelEx extensions". That
way, it should install as if it's really on a win-98 system.

What KernelEx *might* do - as a side effect - is to give a program the
false impression that you're running XP. This can happen both during
the initial installation of the program and later during normal usage of
the program. Your Octave program, during installation, might think that
it's running on an XP system during installation. So you might have to
set the KernelEx properties of the installation file to "disable
KernelEx extentions".

But, this brings up interesting problems, suppose for some reason
I must start again:
Install KernelEx
Install program that NEEDS KernelEx
Need to install program 'pre'kernelex and program will not operate
properly if installed with KernelEx installed?
what happens if KernelEx is uninstalled out form under, say the flash
player? Does that cause a problem?

Once you install KernelEx, you should not un-install it.

For any pre-existing programs that don't work properly after KernelEx is
installed, you DON'T un-install those programs - instead you change
their kernelEx settings to "disable kernelEx extensions".

For any new programs you install later, if they don't install and run
properly the reason could be that:

(a) they are intended to be run on XP or higher and even kernelEx can't
help them run on a win-98 system, or

(b) they must have their installation program set to "disable kernelEx
extentions", or

(c) they are intended to be run on XP and higher, and KernelEx *can*
make it possible for them to run on a win-98 system, but the
installation process for them requires you to follow some specific
instructions (eg - Java and Flash) because the normal or default
installation method will not work.

Or, Is it that everytime I want to reinstall a Win98 version of
something I need to remove EVERYTHING KernelEx needs and then
remove KernelEX and then reinstall everything back in exact

No. Definately not.

I guess the important question is:
Do you know if installing a Win98 program the program is badly
affected by having KernelEx already installed?

I have quite a bit of software on my win-98 systems (Office 2000,
Coreldraw, etc) and the installation of KernelEx did not affect those

I've been running KernelEx for about 3 years not, and have never needed
to un-install it, and I have installed many new programs since
installing KernelEx.