Mike, it's hard to work a problem like this, the way we have to do
it, a message and then hours of delay for an answer and then hours of
delay etcetera. But that's the way it is. A communication channel with
a bandwidth of .0001 Hertz maybe.

I'm sorry but I feel that is little short of rubbish especially "then
hours of delay for an answer". First these are peer to peer support
newsgroups where helpers may be anywhere in the world and not always
around when someone asks a question. Secondly I responded to your initial
enquiry within 42 minutes of it being posted and I started on this second
message just 10 minutes after your last post. If that isn't quick enough
for you then I feel perhaps you should take your PC down to your local
computer shop and pay them to sort out the problem for you.

OK I omitted to mention looking in the System Tools folder in Start |
Programs | Accessories but to be honest that would have only taken you
what, 10 seconds at most?

Don't think I succeeded, but I'm in this not enough memory trap.

Did you read my earlier message in which I thought I had stated that it
was pretty unlikely that the problem was due to lack of memory but rather
one of lack of resources? Did you look for the resource meter? Windows
Explorer's search would have helped if you hadn't thought to look in the
Accessories system tools folder.

Please don't expect me to reply to any further post for many hours. It's
well gone 2 a.m. where I am and I won't be around now until tomorrow.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows



wrote:

Mike, it's hard to work a problem like this, the way we have to do
it, a message and then hours of delay for an answer and then hours of
delay etcetera. But that's the way it is. A communication channel with
a bandwidth of .0001 Hertz maybe.

First you referred me to a Resource Meter. You said go
StartProgramsAccessoriesResource Meter. I got as far
as Accessories but found no Resource Meter.

I did get to a place with System Information, and everything
there looked just fine. Loads of everything and almost full
capacity showing as unused, available. I'm not sure that I
understand what you explained about 64K stacks, but you imply that
whatever I have running is filling up those stacks. I can't find the
Resource Meter but I can tell you that I have absolutely no known
applications running. Is there a way to look at the 64K stacks to see
if they are filled, and with what? I think I mentioned that I have
an MSDOS icon on my Desktop, but clicking it gives me the "Not
enough memory" error message.

My sequence was, I installed a video driver to get 800x whatever
resolution. All still okay. Then I tried to install a Conexant 56K
modem. Don't think I succeeded, but I'm in this not enough memory
trap. I'm in Selective Startup with nothing of MINE being loaded.

So have I told you enough, so that you can lead me out of this
trap?



Mike M wrote:
Memory has little or nothing to do with the amount of free space on
your hard drive and rather more to do with the amount of RAM you have
installed and the size of the swap file.

However I feel the error message you saw is probably incorrect in
stating that you were short on memory but instead should have said
that you were short on resources. Resources in this case being two
fixed size 64K stacks used to store 16 bit pointers and the like. You
say you had little running at the time but is it possible that
you had several background applications being launched when you boot
your PC. For example using AOL is very resource intensive. You can
check the amount of free resources by using the Resource Meter
(Start | Programs | Accessories | Resource Meter and keeping an eye
on the amount of free system and user resources.

Sadly it is impossible in Win Me to increase the size of these two
64K stacks, this it has in common with earlier Win 9x operating
systems such as Win 98 and one reason why Win9x systems can only
multi-task to a limited extent, far less so than NT based systems
such as XP which does not have these two stacks.

Please tell me how I can run Task Manager in ME so
that I can see what's happening in RAM.

You don't but you can use Win Me's system monitor (Start | Programs |
Accessories | System Tools) but as I have already mentioned I doubt
that the problem is with your RAM but rather with the two fixed size
16 bit stacks.