Thunderbird for Win98 (Security Error Crap)
My only (affordable) means to connect to the internet is to use Dialup,
(because of my location). And I have never been able to establish a usable connection using Win XP, or even Win 2000. Lately, since almost all websites are using httpS, I cant get Firefox or any browser (which works with Win98), to connect properly. I get repeated security errors all the time, as well as many script errors with Java Script turned OFF. I've pretty much stopped using the web because of this, and only use the internet to email and run the newsgroups. Now, even my email is giving me security errors. I am using Thunderbird 2.0.0.24. I am not sure if this is the final version of TB to work in Win98, but I have used it for decades and have never seen a reason to upgrade it. It has always worked fine. Personally, I could care less about security with my email. I talk to friends about cars, pets, and general chit-chat. Nothing that needs to be secure and nothing worth securing. Bur lately, I get this f**king error every time I try to get my email: "Thunderbird cant connect securely to website-archive.mozilla.org because it uses a security protocol which isnt enabled." First off, why is TB trying to connect to Mozilla? Yea, I know TB is one of their products, but it appears they are trying to archive all my emails, and there is absolutely no reason for that. Usually, I have to click OK when I get that error message, then close TB, and reopen it, to get my email. Sometimes I have to do this 5 or 10 times, before I actually get my email. Talk about annoying.... Is there any way to stop this? If not, this may be the final straw that broke the camel's back, and I am going to stop using the internet entirely. I already think I am wasting my money for ISP service, when I cant use the web anymore. The newsgroups are nearly dead, and once I cant use email anymore, I'm done using the internet. I still dont understand why there needs to be all this f**king security just to read a webpage on Wikipedia or any other read-only website. And now this..... I predicted the demise of the internet several years ago, it's now happening. Pretty soon it will be so secure that no one will be able to use it, at least not unless they have the latest Operating System, with all the bloated crap software they are making these days. And I have to also mention that my already slow dialup is twice as slow now, on these secured websites. I'm old enough to be retired. I lived more than half my life without the internet, so I guess I can go back to living without it. There are still telephones and I can still send photos to friends via snail mail, but the internet was usable and even enjoyable at one time. I guess those days are gone. |
Thunderbird for Win98 (Security Error Crap)
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:12:16 +0000 (UTC), lid
(Computer Nerd Kev) wrote: I've never really used Thunderbird, but I believe it uses a similar configuration system to about:config in firefox. You may be able to search for the setting where the URL for website-archive.mozilla.org is specified, then delete it, or replace it with something like: http://127.0.0.1/ Where in TB would someone enter "about:config". there is no URL bar like in a browser???? |
Thunderbird for Win98 (Security Error Crap)
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:12:16 +0000 (UTC), lid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote: I've never really used Thunderbird, but I believe it uses a similar configuration system to about:config in firefox. You may be able to search for the setting where the URL for website-archive.mozilla.org is specified, then delete it, or replace it with something like: http://127.0.0.1/ Where in TB would someone enter "about:config". there is no URL bar like in a browser???? You want Tools:Options and Thunderbird Start Page which is under the General tab. That URL is causing Thunderbird to go looking for something inappropriate for its digestive system. Sometimes Mozilla links the page on their server, to a new page which doesn't actually work in that version of Tbird. https://s26.postimg.org/qpcdcksop/to...start_page.gif You can experiment with putting other things in there. I didn't fully test that, and decide on a final value, as that would require me to shut down Tbird and test it :-) Just try not to put something in that URL hole, which demands a lot of downloads. "about:blank" works sometimes, and is likely to be an appropriate syntax for a Firefox based product, but YMMV. Once you click a message, the lower right pane should be replaced with message text, and whatever was in that pane from initialization is then "lost from view". Since there is a button to "restore default", you can't lose the initial value. Thunderbird has an option in the Config Editor (also in that panel), which disables HTML rendering for email/news. But (unfortunately), it doesn't disable the rendering of the crap in that initialization window. Boo and hiss. Have fun, Paul |
Thunderbird for Win98 (Security Error Crap)
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Thunderbird for Win98 (Security Error Crap)
Now, even my email is giving me security errors. I am using Thunderbird
2.0.0.24. I am not sure if this is the final version of TB to work in Win98, but I have used it for decades and have never seen a reason to upgrade it. It has always worked fine. Personally, I could care less about security with my email. I talk to friends about cars, pets, and general chit-chat. Nothing that needs to be secure and nothing worth securing. i can tell you that i still use Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 with win98 everyday for emails and newsgroup and it works fine. jh |
Thunderbird for Win98 (Security Error Crap)
In message , Jacques HADDI
writes: Now, even my email is giving me security errors. I am using Thunderbird 2.0.0.24. I am not sure if this is the final version of TB to work in Win98, but I have used it for decades and have never seen a reason to upgrade it. It has always worked fine. Personally, I could care less about security with my email. I talk to friends about cars, pets, and general chit-chat. Nothing that needs to be secure and nothing worth securing. i can tell you that i still use Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 with win98 everyday for emails and newsgroup and it works fine. jh It's possible that person: you've snipped the attribution headers!'s ISP has recently changed how its mail server interacts with customers, and yours hasn't. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf .... "from a person I admire, respect, and deeply love." "Who was that then?" "Me." (Zaphod Beeblebrox in the Link episode.) |
Thunderbird for Win98 (Security Error Crap)
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Jacques HADDI writes: Now, even my email is giving me security errors. I am using Thunderbird 2.0.0.24. I am not sure if this is the final version of TB to work in Win98, but I have used it for decades and have never seen a reason to upgrade it. It has always worked fine. Personally, I could care less about security with my email. I talk to friends about cars, pets, and general chit-chat. Nothing that needs to be secure and nothing worth securing. i can tell you that i still use Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 with win98 everyday for emails and newsgroup and it works fine. jh It's possible that person: you've snipped the attribution headers!'s ISP has recently changed how its mail server interacts with customers, and yours hasn't. This message: "Thunderbird cant connect securely to website-archive.mozilla.org because it uses a security protocol which isnt enabled." comes from the graphical initialization page that Thunderbird downloads from Mozilla at startup. The graphic is placed in the lower right pane. The first message you review, fills the screen with text and removed the graphic. This scheme allows Mozilla to use the lower right pane as a "billboard" at program startup. When your version of Thunderbird is current, the billboard will say "Welcome to Thunderbird" and present P.R. material in support of whatever their favorite feature is. If your copy of Thunderbird is older, Mozilla will redirect the attempt to fetch that page, to a page that says "You should upgrade now, this version is obsolete". In the case of the OP, not only did they redirect the http:// the browser used, they replaced it with https:// and used a security standard the Firefox engine inside Thunderbird on that edition, does not support. When your version of Thunderbird is old enough, they don't even bother to wire up that stupid scheme, and the lower right pane simply contains an error message about the link being missing. There is no page on the Mozilla server by that name, and there is also no redirect to some other page (http or https). In Thunderbird prefs, you can change the "initial startup screen" URL, to something less obnoxious, to stop this. Paul |
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