No sound unless started in Safe mode (WinME)

[Doug]

Running Win ME, Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1

I just put this sound card in, and there's no sound. I called Creative about
10 times, finally found it's loaded and installed correctly. We determined
together that it's probably a problem with my system.ini file, because when
I load the PC in safe mode the sound works. When I say safe mode, what I do
is go into msconfig, choose Selective Startup, and deselect all the options
underneath Selective Startup. When I restart under this mode, the sound is
loud and clear.

Can anyone help me?


Doug

[Mart]

Sounds like your Sound Card driver is no longer being properly recognised,
is incorrectly set-up, or is corrupted. You need to re-install your Creative
software.

Boot into Safe Mode and if necessary, uninstall your Creative software in
Control Panel \ Add/Remove Programs. Then in Device Manager, 'Remove'
any/all "Sound, video and game controllers", shut down and re-boot.

WinMe *should* re-detect (Plug&Play) your Creative sound card and then ask
you for the Creative CD to install the 'correct' drivers.

BTW - when you say "I just put this sound card in", was that to replace an
existing 'on-board' sound device? If so, did you remember to uninstall it
and disable it in the BIOS??

HTH and good luck

Mart


"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> Running Win ME, Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1
>
> I just put this sound card in, and there's no sound. I called Creative
about
> 10 times, finally found it's loaded and installed correctly. We determined
> together that it's probably a problem with my system.ini file, because
when
> I load the PC in safe mode the sound works. When I say safe mode, what I
do
> is go into msconfig, choose Selective Startup, and deselect all the
options
> underneath Selective Startup. When I restart under this mode, the sound is
> loud and clear.
>
> Can anyone help me?
>
>
> Doug
>
>

[Doug]

I don't think it was on-board, it was in a PCI slot. Do I still need to
disable it in BIOS?



>
> BTW - when you say "I just put this sound card in", was that to replace
an
> existing 'on-board' sound device? If so, did you remember to uninstall it
> and disable it in the BIOS??
>

[Mart]

If it was a PCI card then you don't have to disable it in the BIOS. That
only applies to an 'on-board' device.

However, the fact that you replaced an existing PCI card means that the
original drivers were probably still lurking on your hard disk, or more
importantly their presence being recorded in the Registry - hence my
previous advice:-

"Boot into Safe Mode and ..... in Device Manager, 'Remove' any/ALL "Sound,
video and game controllers", shut down and re-boot."

Good luck

Mart


"Doug" > wrote in message
news:dEDCc.20585$wS2.8442@okepread03...
> I don't think it was on-board, it was in a PCI slot. Do I still need to
> disable it in BIOS?
>
>
>
> >
> > BTW - when you say "I just put this sound card in", was that to
replace
> an
> > existing 'on-board' sound device? If so, did you remember to uninstall
it
> > and disable it in the BIOS??
> >
>
>

[Doug]

I have deleted all Sound Video and Game controllers. Twice, maybe even three
times.

Can anyone offer any help with regards to the system.ini file?


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> If it was a PCI card then you don't have to disable it in the BIOS. That
> only applies to an 'on-board' device.
>
> However, the fact that you replaced an existing PCI card means that the
> original drivers were probably still lurking on your hard disk, or more
> importantly their presence being recorded in the Registry - hence my
> previous advice:-
>
> "Boot into Safe Mode and ..... in Device Manager, 'Remove' any/ALL
"Sound,
> video and game controllers", shut down and re-boot."
>
> Good luck
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Doug" > wrote in message
> news:dEDCc.20585$wS2.8442@okepread03...
> > I don't think it was on-board, it was in a PCI slot. Do I still need to
> > disable it in BIOS?
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > BTW - when you say "I just put this sound card in", was that to
> replace
> > an
> > > existing 'on-board' sound device? If so, did you remember to
uninstall
> it
> > > and disable it in the BIOS??
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Noel Paton]

Yes - but did you do it in SAFE MODE??? - it makes a difference!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
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"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> I have deleted all Sound Video and Game controllers. Twice, maybe even
three
> times.
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...

> > However, the fact that you replaced an existing PCI card means that the
> > original drivers were probably still lurking on your hard disk, or more
> > importantly their presence being recorded in the Registry - hence my
> > previous advice:-
> >
> > "Boot into Safe Mode and ..... in Device Manager, 'Remove' any/ALL
> "Sound,
> > video and game controllers", shut down and re-boot."
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> > Mart
> >

[Doug]

Yes I did it in safe mode.




"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> Yes - but did you do it in SAFE MODE??? - it makes a difference!
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> or
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
>
> "Doug" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I have deleted all Sound Video and Game controllers. Twice, maybe even
> three
> > times.
> >
> >
> > "Mart" > wrote in message
> > ...
>
> > > However, the fact that you replaced an existing PCI card means that
the
> > > original drivers were probably still lurking on your hard disk, or
more
> > > importantly their presence being recorded in the Registry - hence my
> > > previous advice:-
> > >
> > > "Boot into Safe Mode and ..... in Device Manager, 'Remove' any/ALL
> > "Sound,
> > > video and game controllers", shut down and re-boot."
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > >
> > > Mart
> > >
>
>

[Doug]

In fact, I followed Creative Labs' instructions to the letter for removing
old drivers and installing new ones. See the following Solution ID from
Creative...(SID1359)

http://dmzweb4.europe.creative.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/,/?St=358,E=0000000000015154937,K=1963,Sxi=0,ws=http ://us.creative.com/",case=1359,Question255=obj(12008):obj(12494)





"Doug" > wrote in message
news:kjVCc.21121$wS2.5505@okepread03...
> Yes I did it in safe mode.
>
>
>
>
> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Yes - but did you do it in SAFE MODE??? - it makes a difference!
> >
> > --
> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> >
> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >
> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
> > or
> > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
> >
> > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I have deleted all Sound Video and Game controllers. Twice, maybe even
> > three
> > > times.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mart" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >
> > > > However, the fact that you replaced an existing PCI card means that
> the
> > > > original drivers were probably still lurking on your hard disk, or
> more
> > > > importantly their presence being recorded in the Registry - hence my
> > > > previous advice:-
> > > >
> > > > "Boot into Safe Mode and ..... in Device Manager, 'Remove' any/ALL
> > > "Sound,
> > > > video and game controllers", shut down and re-boot."
> > > >
> > > > Good luck
> > > >
> > > > Mart
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Mart]

OK, let's go back a few steps:

I'm not too sure what you mean in your first post about being in Safe Mode,
so can you please confirm the following:

You say that the sound works in Safe Mode, so you can play .wav files and
..mid files - but NOT audio CD's (CD drivers don't load in Safe Mode!)?

Try booting into Safe Mode using the official method, (i.e. Ctrl or F8 at
bootup) and confirm the previous sentence.

In Normal Mode, can you play ANY of the above (including audio CD's)? Do you
hear the WinMe 'fanfare' as Windows opens?

Mart



"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> In fact, I followed Creative Labs' instructions to the letter for removing
> old drivers and installing new ones. See the following Solution ID from
> Creative...(SID1359)
>
>
http://dmzweb4.europe.creative.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/,/?St=358,E=0000000000015154937,K=1963,Sxi=0,ws=http ://us.creative.com/",case=1359,Question255=obj(12008):obj(12494)
>
>
>
>
>
> "Doug" > wrote in message
> news:kjVCc.21121$wS2.5505@okepread03...
> > Yes I did it in safe mode.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Yes - but did you do it in SAFE MODE??? - it makes a difference!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> > >
> > > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> > >
> > > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> NG's
> > > or
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
> > >
> > > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I have deleted all Sound Video and Game controllers. Twice, maybe
even
> > > three
> > > > times.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mart" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > >
> > > > > However, the fact that you replaced an existing PCI card means
that
> > the
> > > > > original drivers were probably still lurking on your hard disk, or
> > more
> > > > > importantly their presence being recorded in the Registry - hence
my
> > > > > previous advice:-
> > > > >
> > > > > "Boot into Safe Mode and ..... in Device Manager, 'Remove'
any/ALL
> > > > "Sound,
> > > > > video and game controllers", shut down and re-boot."
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck
> > > > >
> > > > > Mart
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Doug]

When I start in safe mode using F8 at bootup, I get no sound at all (no
WinME "fanfare", no mp3, no CD's)

When I start without the startup files, I get all the audio I need. I do
this by going into msconfig, check Selective Startup, and deselect all the
options underneath it, such as: "Process System.ini file" "Process Win.ini
file" "Load static VxDs" "Load Startup Group Items" "Load environment
variables"


Doug


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> OK, let's go back a few steps:
>
> I'm not too sure what you mean in your first post about being in Safe
Mode,
> so can you please confirm the following:
>
> You say that the sound works in Safe Mode, so you can play .wav files and
> .mid files - but NOT audio CD's (CD drivers don't load in Safe Mode!)?
>
> Try booting into Safe Mode using the official method, (i.e. Ctrl or F8 at
> bootup) and confirm the previous sentence.
>
> In Normal Mode, can you play ANY of the above (including audio CD's)? Do
you
> hear the WinMe 'fanfare' as Windows opens?
>
> Mart
>

[masterprometheus]

"Doug" > wrote in message
news:WOADc.21932$wS2.6478@okepread03...
> When I start in safe mode using F8 at bootup, I get no sound at all
(no
> WinME "fanfare", no mp3, no CD's)

That's expected.

> When I start without the startup files, I get all the audio I need. I
do
> this by going into msconfig, check Selective Startup, and deselect all
the
> options underneath it, such as: "Process System.ini file" "Process
Win.ini
> file" "Load static VxDs" "Load Startup Group Items" "Load
environment
> variables"

Instead try eliminating one by one to find out where the problem is.

Good luck
MP
>
> Doug
>

[Mart]

MP wrote:-

> That's expected.

Indeed - that's exactly why I needed to determine whether Doug really was in
Safe Mode (as he stated) rather than Selective Start-up Mode, and of course
he was not in Safe Mode - which points the problem back to the drivers.

Doug, if you can't identify the 'offender' using MP's advice, I can only
suggest re-installing the SB drivers yet again.

Are you sure that you are using the latest *WinMe compatible* drivers. Check
again with Creative.

(BTW - the link to SID1359 had time expired so was of no help)

Mart


"masterprometheus" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Doug" > wrote in message
> news:WOADc.21932$wS2.6478@okepread03...
> > When I start in safe mode using F8 at bootup, I get no sound at all
> (no
> > WinME "fanfare", no mp3, no CD's)
>
> That's expected.
>
> > When I start without the startup files, I get all the audio I need. I
> do
> > this by going into msconfig, check Selective Startup, and deselect all
> the
> > options underneath it, such as: "Process System.ini file" "Process
> Win.ini
> > file" "Load static VxDs" "Load Startup Group Items" "Load
> environment
> > variables"
>
> Instead try eliminating one by one to find out where the problem is.
>
> Good luck
> MP
> >
> > Doug
> >
>
>

[Doug]

OK I found the offending file. It's the System.ini file. I unchecked it and
used selective startup, and I had sound on startup, including the WinME
"fanfare". I can play CD's, MP3's, everything.

Now what?

Doug

"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> MP wrote:-
>
> > That's expected.
>
> Indeed - that's exactly why I needed to determine whether Doug really was
in
> Safe Mode (as he stated) rather than Selective Start-up Mode, and of
course
> he was not in Safe Mode - which points the problem back to the drivers.
>
> Doug, if you can't identify the 'offender' using MP's advice, I can only
> suggest re-installing the SB drivers yet again.
>
> Are you sure that you are using the latest *WinMe compatible* drivers.
Check
> again with Creative.
>
> (BTW - the link to SID1359 had time expired so was of no help)
>
> Mart
>
>
> "masterprometheus" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > news:WOADc.21932$wS2.6478@okepread03...
> > > When I start in safe mode using F8 at bootup, I get no sound at all
> > (no
> > > WinME "fanfare", no mp3, no CD's)
> >
> > That's expected.
> >
> > > When I start without the startup files, I get all the audio I need. I
> > do
> > > this by going into msconfig, check Selective Startup, and deselect all
> > the
> > > options underneath it, such as: "Process System.ini file" "Process
> > Win.ini
> > > file" "Load static VxDs" "Load Startup Group Items" "Load
> > environment
> > > variables"
> >
> > Instead try eliminating one by one to find out where the problem is.
> >
> > Good luck
> > MP
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Mart]

I've noticed that you mentioned the system.ini file(contained in the Windows
folder) in a couple of your posts.

There would 'appear' to be an entry in that file which has not been
removed/deleted/modified when you 'Removed' the (all) previous drivers
and/or not been overwritten by the new installation.

Make a copy of the file and keep it safe (in case you need to use it later).
Now try 'looking' at it the working file in notepad and see if you can find
a line (or lines) referring to multimedia devices or sound card drivers.

Edit the file by 'Remming' (remarking) it out (I.E. - Type rem or put a semi
colon at the start of that line) ONE LINE AT A TIME and save the file (it
should save itself as system.ini)

Re-boot into Normal Mode and see if your sound card now works. Repeat the
process for each line, one at a time, until you find the offending line -
re-editing (removing) the semi-colon from the previous save.

Good luck

Mart


"Doug" > wrote in message
news:eFVDc.22297$wS2.5403@okepread03...
> OK I found the offending file. It's the System.ini file. I unchecked it
and
> used selective startup, and I had sound on startup, including the WinME
> "fanfare". I can play CD's, MP3's, everything.
>
> Now what?
>
> Doug
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
> > MP wrote:-
> >
> > > That's expected.
> >
> > Indeed - that's exactly why I needed to determine whether Doug really
was
> in
> > Safe Mode (as he stated) rather than Selective Start-up Mode, and of
> course
> > he was not in Safe Mode - which points the problem back to the drivers.
> >
> > Doug, if you can't identify the 'offender' using MP's advice, I can only
> > suggest re-installing the SB drivers yet again.
> >
> > Are you sure that you are using the latest *WinMe compatible* drivers.
> Check
> > again with Creative.
> >
> > (BTW - the link to SID1359 had time expired so was of no help)
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> > "masterprometheus" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > > news:WOADc.21932$wS2.6478@okepread03...
> > > > When I start in safe mode using F8 at bootup, I get no sound at all
> > > (no
> > > > WinME "fanfare", no mp3, no CD's)
> > >
> > > That's expected.
> > >
> > > > When I start without the startup files, I get all the audio I need.
I
> > > do
> > > > this by going into msconfig, check Selective Startup, and deselect
all
> > > the
> > > > options underneath it, such as: "Process System.ini file" "Process
> > > Win.ini
> > > > file" "Load static VxDs" "Load Startup Group Items" "Load
> > > environment
> > > > variables"
> > >
> > > Instead try eliminating one by one to find out where the problem is.
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > > MP
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[masterprometheus]

And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next reply.
Maybe somoene can discover the problem.

Regards
MP

"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> I've noticed that you mentioned the system.ini file(contained in the
Windows
> folder) in a couple of your posts.
>
> There would 'appear' to be an entry in that file which has not been
> removed/deleted/modified when you 'Removed' the (all) previous drivers
> and/or not been overwritten by the new installation.
>
> Make a copy of the file and keep it safe (in case you need to use it
later).
> Now try 'looking' at it the working file in notepad and see if you can
find
> a line (or lines) referring to multimedia devices or sound card
drivers.
>
> Edit the file by 'Remming' (remarking) it out (I.E. - Type rem or put
a semi
> colon at the start of that line) ONE LINE AT A TIME and save the file
(it
> should save itself as system.ini)
>
> Re-boot into Normal Mode and see if your sound card now works. Repeat
the
> process for each line, one at a time, until you find the offending
line -
> re-editing (removing) the semi-colon from the previous save.
>
> Good luck
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Doug" > wrote in message
> news:eFVDc.22297$wS2.5403@okepread03...
> > OK I found the offending file. It's the System.ini file. I unchecked
it
> and
> > used selective startup, and I had sound on startup, including the
WinME
> > "fanfare". I can play CD's, MP3's, everything.
> >
> > Now what?
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > "Mart" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > MP wrote:-
> > >
> > > > That's expected.
> > >
> > > Indeed - that's exactly why I needed to determine whether Doug
really
> was
> > in
> > > Safe Mode (as he stated) rather than Selective Start-up Mode, and
of
> > course
> > > he was not in Safe Mode - which points the problem back to the
drivers.
> > >
> > > Doug, if you can't identify the 'offender' using MP's advice, I
can only
> > > suggest re-installing the SB drivers yet again.
> > >
> > > Are you sure that you are using the latest *WinMe compatible*
drivers.
> > Check
> > > again with Creative.
> > >
> > > (BTW - the link to SID1359 had time expired so was of no help)
> > >
> > > Mart
> > >
> > >
> > > "masterprometheus" > wrote in
message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > > > news:WOADc.21932$wS2.6478@okepread03...
> > > > > When I start in safe mode using F8 at bootup, I get no sound
at all
> > > > (no
> > > > > WinME "fanfare", no mp3, no CD's)
> > > >
> > > > That's expected.
> > > >
> > > > > When I start without the startup files, I get all the audio I
need.
> I
> > > > do
> > > > > this by going into msconfig, check Selective Startup, and
deselect
> all
> > > > the
> > > > > options underneath it, such as: "Process System.ini file"
"Process
> > > > Win.ini
> > > > > file" "Load static VxDs" "Load Startup Group Items"
"Load
> > > > environment
> > > > > variables"
> > > >
> > > > Instead try eliminating one by one to find out where the problem
is.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck
> > > > MP
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Mart]

Hi MP - yes I would like to see it myself but was apprehensive of requesting
an attachment of an unknown length file <g>

Perhaps relevant lines could be pasted into reply?

Mart


"masterprometheus" > wrote in message
...
> And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next reply.
> Maybe somoene can discover the problem.
>
> Regards
> MP
>
<snipped>

[Noel Paton]

Mart -
The error is usually in the first section of the system.ini file - the
[boot] section

often, the
drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv
line is either missing completely, or has nothing after the = sign.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp

"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Hi MP - yes I would like to see it myself but was apprehensive of
requesting
> an attachment of an unknown length file <g>
>
> Perhaps relevant lines could be pasted into reply?
>
> Mart
>
>
> "masterprometheus" > wrote in message
> ...
> > And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next reply.
> > Maybe somoene can discover the problem.
> >
> > Regards
> > MP
> >
> <snipped>
>
>

[Mart]

Thanks Noel, my WinMe box (laptop) is out on loan at the moment and I
couldn't remember where that section was - it's been quite a while since I
looked at a system.ini file <g>

But tend not to request attachments on NG's <g>

Mart



"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> Mart -
> The error is usually in the first section of the system.ini file - the
> [boot] section
>
> often, the
> drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv
> line is either missing completely, or has nothing after the = sign.
>
> HTH
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> or
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi MP - yes I would like to see it myself but was apprehensive of
> requesting
> > an attachment of an unknown length file <g>
> >
> > Perhaps relevant lines could be pasted into reply?
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> > "masterprometheus" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next reply.
> > > Maybe somoene can discover the problem.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > MP
> > >
> > <snipped>
> >
> >
>
>

[Noel Paton]

What - not using VPC? <VBEG>

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp

"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Noel, my WinMe box (laptop) is out on loan at the moment and I
> couldn't remember where that section was - it's been quite a while since I
> looked at a system.ini file <g>
>
> But tend not to request attachments on NG's <g>
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Mart -
> > The error is usually in the first section of the system.ini file - the
> > [boot] section
> >
> > often, the
> > drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv
> > line is either missing completely, or has nothing after the = sign.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > --
> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> >
> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >
> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
> > or
> > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
> >
> > "Mart" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Hi MP - yes I would like to see it myself but was apprehensive of
> > requesting
> > > an attachment of an unknown length file <g>
> > >
> > > Perhaps relevant lines could be pasted into reply?
> > >
> > > Mart
> > >
> > >
> > > "masterprometheus" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next reply.
> > > > Maybe somoene can discover the problem.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > MP
> > > >
> > > <snipped>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Mart]

It's bad enough keeping track of one OS per machine without mixing them. But
I can understand why you included the 'E' <g>

Mart


"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> What - not using VPC? <VBEG>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> or
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks Noel, my WinMe box (laptop) is out on loan at the moment and I
> > couldn't remember where that section was - it's been quite a while since
I
> > looked at a system.ini file <g>
> >
> > But tend not to request attachments on NG's <g>
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> >
> > "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Mart -
> > > The error is usually in the first section of the system.ini file - the
> > > [boot] section
> > >
> > > often, the
> > > drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv
> > > line is either missing completely, or has nothing after the = sign.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > --
> > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> > >
> > > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> > >
> > > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> NG's
> > > or
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
> > >
> > > "Mart" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hi MP - yes I would like to see it myself but was apprehensive of
> > > requesting
> > > > an attachment of an unknown length file <g>
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps relevant lines could be pasted into reply?
> > > >
> > > > Mart
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "masterprometheus" > wrote in
message
> > > > ...
> > > > > And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next
reply.
> > > > > Maybe somoene can discover the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > MP
> > > > >
> > > > <snipped>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[masterprometheus]

I understand. But system.ini is a small text file and we will notice if
something else was attached. Anyway, maybe copy&paste is the better way.

Regards
MP
"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Hi MP - yes I would like to see it myself but was apprehensive of
requesting
> an attachment of an unknown length file <g>
>
> Perhaps relevant lines could be pasted into reply?
>
> Mart
>
>
> "masterprometheus" > wrote in message
> ...
> > And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next reply.
> > Maybe somoene can discover the problem.
> >
> > Regards
> > MP
> >
> <snipped>

[Doug]

Here it is, cut and pasted...

;
; *** DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! ***
;
; This file was created by the System Configuration Utility as
; a placeholder for your SYSTEM.INI file. Your actual
; SYSTEM.INI file has been saved under the name SYSTEM.TSH.
;
[boot]
system.drv=system.drv
drivers=mmsystem.dll
user.exe=user.exe
gdi.exe=gdi.exe
sound.drv=mmsound.drv
dibeng.drv=dibeng.dll
comm.drv=comm.drv
mouse.drv=mouse.drv
keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv
shell=Explorer.exe
*DisplayFallback=0

[386Enh]
ebios=*ebios
device=*vshare
device=*dynapage
mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
device=*vcd
device=*vpd
device=*int13
woafont=dosapp.fon
keyboard=*vkd
display=*vdd,*vflatd

[drivers]
wavemapper=*.drv
MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
wave=mmsystem.dll
midi=mmsystem.dll

[mci]
cdaudio=mcicda.drv
sequencer=mciseq.drv
waveaudio=mciwave.drv
avivideo=mciavi.drv
videodisc=mcipionr.drv
vcr=mcivisca.drv

[drivers32]
MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm

[Password Lists]
DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG004.PWL

[TTFontDimenCache]
0 12=7 12
0 13=8 13
0 14=8 14
0 15=9 15
0 16=10 16
0 18=11 18
0 20=12 20
0 22=13 22




"masterprometheus" > wrote in message
...
> I understand. But system.ini is a small text file and we will notice if
> something else was attached. Anyway, maybe copy&paste is the better way.
>
> Regards
> MP

[Noel Paton]

If that's all there is to it, then it's no wonder you're having problems -
around 2/3rds is missing!

Undo the amendments in MSCONFIG, and repost.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp

"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> Here it is, cut and pasted...
>
> ;
> ; *** DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! ***
> ;
> ; This file was created by the System Configuration Utility as
> ; a placeholder for your SYSTEM.INI file. Your actual
> ; SYSTEM.INI file has been saved under the name SYSTEM.TSH.
> ;
> [boot]
> system.drv=system.drv
> drivers=mmsystem.dll
> user.exe=user.exe
> gdi.exe=gdi.exe
> sound.drv=mmsound.drv
> dibeng.drv=dibeng.dll
> comm.drv=comm.drv
> mouse.drv=mouse.drv
> keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv
> shell=Explorer.exe
> *DisplayFallback=0
>
> [386Enh]
> ebios=*ebios
> device=*vshare
> device=*dynapage
> mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
> device=*vcd
> device=*vpd
> device=*int13
> woafont=dosapp.fon
> keyboard=*vkd
> display=*vdd,*vflatd
>
> [drivers]
> wavemapper=*.drv
> MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
> MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
> wave=mmsystem.dll
> midi=mmsystem.dll
>
> [mci]
> cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> sequencer=mciseq.drv
> waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> avivideo=mciavi.drv
> videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> vcr=mcivisca.drv
>
> [drivers32]
> MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
> MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
> MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
> MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
> MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
> vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
> VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
> VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
> vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
> VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
> msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
>
> [Password Lists]
> DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG004.PWL
>
> [TTFontDimenCache]
> 0 12=7 12
> 0 13=8 13
> 0 14=8 14
> 0 15=9 15
> 0 16=10 16
> 0 18=11 18
> 0 20=12 20
> 0 22=13 22
>
>
>
>
> "masterprometheus" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I understand. But system.ini is a small text file and we will notice if
> > something else was attached. Anyway, maybe copy&paste is the better way.
> >
> > Regards
> > MP
>
>

[Mart]

OK Doug, just to recap a little,

Make a copy of system.ini and keep it safe (in case you need to use it
later).
Now try 'looking' at it the working file in notepad and see if you can find
a line (or lines) referring to multimedia devices or sound card drivers.

Edit the file by 'Remming' (remarking) it out (I.E. - Type rem or put a semi
colon at the start of that line) ONE LINE AT A TIME and save the file (it
should save itself as system.ini)

(Just another thought, you may be able to achieve the same objective by
editing(enabling/disabling the check boxes in) the system.ini tab in
msconfig.exe)

Two lines to consider initially are:-

> [boot]
> system.drv=system.drv
> drivers=mmsystem.dll ***************
> user.exe=user.exe
> gdi.exe=gdi.exe
> sound.drv=mmsound.drv ***************
> dibeng.drv=dibeng.dll
> comm.drv=comm.drv
> mouse.drv=mouse.drv
> keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv
> shell=Explorer.exe
> *DisplayFallback=0

Re-boot into Normal Mode and see if your sound card now works. Repeat the
process for each line, one at a time, until you find the offending line -
re-editing (removing) the semi-colon from the previous save.

You may have to try other lines too - as I said elsewhere, I don't have a
WinMe box available to give you direct comparisons. Maybe Noel, MP or
someone else could jump in here.

(I still find it odd that a 'fresh' install (of the SB drivers) hasn't
corrected it)

Good luck

Mart



"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> Here it is, cut and pasted...
>
> ;
> ; *** DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! ***
> ;
> ; This file was created by the System Configuration Utility as
> ; a placeholder for your SYSTEM.INI file. Your actual
> ; SYSTEM.INI file has been saved under the name SYSTEM.TSH.
> ;
> [boot]
> system.drv=system.drv
> drivers=mmsystem.dll
> user.exe=user.exe
> gdi.exe=gdi.exe
> sound.drv=mmsound.drv
> dibeng.drv=dibeng.dll
> comm.drv=comm.drv
> mouse.drv=mouse.drv
> keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv
> shell=Explorer.exe
> *DisplayFallback=0
>
> [386Enh]
> ebios=*ebios
> device=*vshare
> device=*dynapage
> mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
> device=*vcd
> device=*vpd
> device=*int13
> woafont=dosapp.fon
> keyboard=*vkd
> display=*vdd,*vflatd
>
> [drivers]
> wavemapper=*.drv
> MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
> MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
> wave=mmsystem.dll
> midi=mmsystem.dll
>
> [mci]
> cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> sequencer=mciseq.drv
> waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> avivideo=mciavi.drv
> videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> vcr=mcivisca.drv
>
> [drivers32]
> MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
> MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
> MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
> MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
> MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
> vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
> VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
> VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
> vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
> VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
> msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
>
> [Password Lists]
> DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG004.PWL
>
> [TTFontDimenCache]
> 0 12=7 12
> 0 13=8 13
> 0 14=8 14
> 0 15=9 15
> 0 16=10 16
> 0 18=11 18
> 0 20=12 20
> 0 22=13 22
>
>
>
>
> "masterprometheus" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I understand. But system.ini is a small text file and we will notice if
> > something else was attached. Anyway, maybe copy&paste is the better way.
> >
> > Regards
> > MP
>
>

[Mart]

Hi Noel, I thought it looked short <g> but don't have a comparison (see my
other post @ 06.27 BST)

Mart


"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> If that's all there is to it, then it's no wonder you're having problems -
> around 2/3rds is missing!
>
> Undo the amendments in MSCONFIG, and repost.
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> or
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
>
> "Doug" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Here it is, cut and pasted...
> >
> > ;
> > ; *** DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! ***
> > ;
> > ; This file was created by the System Configuration Utility as
> > ; a placeholder for your SYSTEM.INI file. Your actual
> > ; SYSTEM.INI file has been saved under the name SYSTEM.TSH.
> > ;
> > [boot]
> > system.drv=system.drv
> > drivers=mmsystem.dll
> > user.exe=user.exe
> > gdi.exe=gdi.exe
> > sound.drv=mmsound.drv
> > dibeng.drv=dibeng.dll
> > comm.drv=comm.drv
> > mouse.drv=mouse.drv
> > keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv
> > shell=Explorer.exe
> > *DisplayFallback=0
> >
> > [386Enh]
> > ebios=*ebios
> > device=*vshare
> > device=*dynapage
> > mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
> > device=*vcd
> > device=*vpd
> > device=*int13
> > woafont=dosapp.fon
> > keyboard=*vkd
> > display=*vdd,*vflatd
> >
> > [drivers]
> > wavemapper=*.drv
> > MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
> > MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
> > wave=mmsystem.dll
> > midi=mmsystem.dll
> >
> > [mci]
> > cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> > sequencer=mciseq.drv
> > waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> > avivideo=mciavi.drv
> > videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> > vcr=mcivisca.drv
> >
> > [drivers32]
> > MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
> > MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
> > MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
> > MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
> > MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
> > vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
> > VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
> > VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
> > vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
> > VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
> > msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
> >
> > [Password Lists]
> > DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG004.PWL
> >
> > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > 0 12=7 12
> > 0 13=8 13
> > 0 14=8 14
> > 0 15=9 15
> > 0 16=10 16
> > 0 18=11 18
> > 0 20=12 20
> > 0 22=13 22
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "masterprometheus" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I understand. But system.ini is a small text file and we will notice
if
> > > something else was attached. Anyway, maybe copy&paste is the better
way.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > MP
> >
> >
>
>

[Noel Paton]

Actually - looking a little closer, that one looks like the default 'new'
system.ini rather than anything else.



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp

"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Noel, I thought it looked short <g> but don't have a comparison (see my
> other post @ 06.27 BST)
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > If that's all there is to it, then it's no wonder you're having
problems -
> > around 2/3rds is missing!
> >
> > Undo the amendments in MSCONFIG, and repost.
> >
> > --
> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> >
> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >
> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
> > or
> > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
> >
> > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Here it is, cut and pasted...
> > >
> > > ;
> > > ; *** DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! ***
> > > ;
> > > ; This file was created by the System Configuration Utility as
> > > ; a placeholder for your SYSTEM.INI file. Your actual
> > > ; SYSTEM.INI file has been saved under the name SYSTEM.TSH.
> > > ;
> > > [boot]
> > > system.drv=system.drv
> > > drivers=mmsystem.dll
> > > user.exe=user.exe
> > > gdi.exe=gdi.exe
> > > sound.drv=mmsound.drv
> > > dibeng.drv=dibeng.dll
> > > comm.drv=comm.drv
> > > mouse.drv=mouse.drv
> > > keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv
> > > shell=Explorer.exe
> > > *DisplayFallback=0
> > >
> > > [386Enh]
> > > ebios=*ebios
> > > device=*vshare
> > > device=*dynapage
> > > mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
> > > device=*vcd
> > > device=*vpd
> > > device=*int13
> > > woafont=dosapp.fon
> > > keyboard=*vkd
> > > display=*vdd,*vflatd
> > >
> > > [drivers]
> > > wavemapper=*.drv
> > > MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
> > > MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
> > > wave=mmsystem.dll
> > > midi=mmsystem.dll
> > >
> > > [mci]
> > > cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> > > sequencer=mciseq.drv
> > > waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> > > avivideo=mciavi.drv
> > > videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> > > vcr=mcivisca.drv
> > >
> > > [drivers32]
> > > MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
> > > MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
> > > MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
> > > MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
> > > MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
> > > vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
> > > VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
> > > VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
> > > vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
> > > VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
> > > msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
> > >
> > > [Password Lists]
> > > DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG004.PWL
> > >
> > > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > > 0 12=7 12
> > > 0 13=8 13
> > > 0 14=8 14
> > > 0 15=9 15
> > > 0 16=10 16
> > > 0 18=11 18
> > > 0 20=12 20
> > > 0 22=13 22
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "masterprometheus" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I understand. But system.ini is a small text file and we will notice
> if
> > > > something else was attached. Anyway, maybe copy&paste is the better
> way.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > MP
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Doug]

Here's the new version...
**********************************************


[boot]
*DisplayFallback=0
fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
386Grabber=vgafull.3gr
display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

[drivers]
wavemapper=*.drv
MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm

[drivers32]
msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
VIDC.VDOM=vdowave.drv
msacm.msaudio1=msaud32.acm
msacm.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
msacm.l3acm=L3codecp.acm
msacm.msadpcm1=msadp32.acm
msacm.voxacm160=vct3216.acm
VIDC.VIVO=ivvideo.dll
msacm.vivog723=vivog723.acm
VIDC.I263=i263_32.drv
VIDC.I420=i263_32.drv
vidc.mpg4=mpg4c32.dll
vidc.mp42=mpg4c32.dll
vidc.mp43=mpg4c32.dll
VIDC.YUY2=msyuv.dll
VIDC.UYVY=msyuv.dll
VIDC.YVYU=msyuv.dll
msacm.atrac3=atrac3.acm
VIDC.IV41=ir41_32.dll
VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
VIDC.YVU9=iyvu9_32.dll
VIDC.IV50=ir50_32.dll

----------- RedSheriff Measurement -----------
Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm
Record Sent
boot.description]
system.drv=Standard PC
keyboard.typ=Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
aspect=100,96,96
display.drv=Intel(R) 82810E Graphics Controller
mouse.drv=Microsoft Mouse

[386Enh]
ebios=*ebios
woafont=dosapp.fon
device=*dynapage
device=*vcd
device=*vpd
device=*int13
keyboard=*vkd
EMMExclude=C000-CFFF
display=*vdd,*vflatd
mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
MinSPS=8
Paging=on
COM3Base=3E8
COM3Irq=4
COM4Base=2E8
COM4Irq=3
CacheBlockSize=000840FF1E20C30149
CacheLineSize=0088A4F7B137C301CF
device=*enable

[NonWindowsApp]
TTInitialSizes=4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 20 22

[power.drv]



[mciseq.drv]

[mci]
cdaudio=mcicda.drv
sequencer=mciseq.drv
waveaudio=mciwave.drv
avivideo=mciavi.drv
videodisc=mcipionr.drv
vcr=mcivisca.drv
MPEGVideo=mciqtz.drv
MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv
QTWVideo=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIQTW.DRV

[vcache]
MaxFileCache=524288

[MSNP32]

[Password Lists]
default=C:\WINDOWS\default.PWL
DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG.PWL
GUEST=C:\WINDOWS\GUEST.PWL
ADMIN=C:\WINDOWS\ADMIN.PWL

[ScreenTime]
Password Value=0
previousProjectorProcessID=4294561761

[CineMac]
Password Value=0



[boot.description]
aspect=100,96,96
display.drv=Intel(R) 82810E Graphics Controller


"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...[i]
> If that's all there is to it, then it's no wonder you're having problems -
> around 2/3rds is missing!
>
> Undo the amendments in MSCONFIG, and repost.
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>

[Noel Paton]

Hmm - now I see what the problem was!<g>
> ----------- RedSheriff Measurement -----------
> Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm
> Record Sent
Remove that - it's part of a Spyware install!!

Correct the next line to read
[boot description]

under
[drivers32]
remove the excess entries for
msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
remove the following lines
CacheBlockSize=000840FF1E20C30149
CacheLineSize=0088A4F7B137C301CF

Under [mci]
remove
QTWVideo=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIQTW.DRV

add

[TTFontDimenCache]
0 4=2 4
0 5=3 5
0 6=4 6
0 7=4 7
0 8=5 8
0 9=5 9
0 10=6 10
0 11=7 11
0 12=7 12
0 13=8 13
0 14=8 14
0 15=9 15
0 16=10 16
0 18=11 18
0 20=12 20
0 22=13 22

and remove the second
[boot description]
section

How much RAM is installed - if less than 576MB, remove the entry under the
[vcache] header

see how that works, and post back the new file

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp

"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> Here's the new version...
> **********************************************
>
>
> [boot]
> *DisplayFallback=0
> fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
> fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
> oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
> 386Grabber=vgafull.3gr
> display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv
>
> [drivers]
> wavemapper=*.drv
> MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
> MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
>
> [drivers32]
> msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
> VIDC.VDOM=vdowave.drv
> msacm.msaudio1=msaud32.acm
> msacm.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
> MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
> MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
> MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
> MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
> MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
> vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
> VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
> vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
> VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
> msacm.l3acm=L3codecp.acm
> msacm.msadpcm1=msadp32.acm
> msacm.voxacm160=vct3216.acm
> VIDC.VIVO=ivvideo.dll
> msacm.vivog723=vivog723.acm
> VIDC.I263=i263_32.drv
> VIDC.I420=i263_32.drv
> vidc.mpg4=mpg4c32.dll
> vidc.mp42=mpg4c32.dll
> vidc.mp43=mpg4c32.dll
> VIDC.YUY2=msyuv.dll
> VIDC.UYVY=msyuv.dll
> VIDC.YVYU=msyuv.dll
> msacm.atrac3=atrac3.acm
> VIDC.IV41=ir41_32.dll
> VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
> VIDC.YVU9=iyvu9_32.dll
> VIDC.IV50=ir50_32.dll
>
> ----------- RedSheriff Measurement -----------
> Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm
> Record Sent
> boot.description]
> system.drv=Standard PC
> keyboard.typ=Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
> aspect=100,96,96
> display.drv=Intel(R) 82810E Graphics Controller
> mouse.drv=Microsoft Mouse
>
> [386Enh]
> ebios=*ebios
> woafont=dosapp.fon
> device=*dynapage
> device=*vcd
> device=*vpd
> device=*int13
> keyboard=*vkd
> EMMExclude=C000-CFFF
> display=*vdd,*vflatd
> mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
> MinSPS=8
> Paging=on
> COM3Base=3E8
> COM3Irq=4
> COM4Base=2E8
> COM4Irq=3
> CacheBlockSize=000840FF1E20C30149
> CacheLineSize=0088A4F7B137C301CF
> device=*enable
>
> [NonWindowsApp]
> TTInitialSizes=4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 20 22
>
> [power.drv]
>
>
>
> [mciseq.drv]
>
> [mci]
> cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> sequencer=mciseq.drv
> waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> avivideo=mciavi.drv
> videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> vcr=mcivisca.drv
> MPEGVideo=mciqtz.drv
> MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv
> QTWVideo=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIQTW.DRV
>
> [vcache]
> MaxFileCache=524288
>
> [MSNP32]
>
> [Password Lists]
> default=C:\WINDOWS\default.PWL
> DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG.PWL
> GUEST=C:\WINDOWS\GUEST.PWL
> ADMIN=C:\WINDOWS\ADMIN.PWL
>
> [ScreenTime]
> Password Value=0
> previousProjectorProcessID=4294561761
>
> [CineMac]
> Password Value=0
>
>
>
> [boot.description]
> aspect=100,96,96
> display.drv=Intel(R) 82810E Graphics Controller
>
>
> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> ...[i]
> > If that's all there is to it, then it's no wonder you're having
problems -
> > around 2/3rds is missing!
> >
> > Undo the amendments in MSCONFIG, and repost.
> >
> > --
> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> >
>
>

[Doug]

Noel, thanks for all your help so far. I did what you said but I still have
no sound. I only have 256MB of RAM, so I deleted the line under the vcache
header. Here's the updated system.ini file...
************************************************** ******

[boot]
*DisplayFallback=0
fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
386Grabber=vgafull.3gr
display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

[drivers]
wavemapper=*.drv
MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm

[drivers32]
msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
VIDC.VDOM=vdowave.drv
msacm.msaudio1=msaud32.acm
msacm.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
msacm.l3acm=L3codecp.acm
msacm.msadpcm1=msadp32.acm
msacm.voxacm160=vct3216.acm
VIDC.VIVO=ivvideo.dll
msacm.vivog723=vivog723.acm
VIDC.I263=i263_32.drv
VIDC.I420=i263_32.drv
vidc.mpg4=mpg4c32.dll
vidc.mp42=mpg4c32.dll
vidc.mp43=mpg4c32.dll
VIDC.YUY2=msyuv.dll
VIDC.UYVY=msyuv.dll
VIDC.YVYU=msyuv.dll
msacm.atrac3=atrac3.acm
VIDC.IV41=ir41_32.dll
VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
VIDC.YVU9=iyvu9_32.dll
VIDC.IV50=ir50_32.dll


[386Enh]
ebios=*ebios
woafont=dosapp.fon
device=*dynapage
device=*vcd
device=*vpd
device=*int13
keyboard=*vkd
EMMExclude=C000-CFFF
display=*vdd,*vflatd
mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
MinSPS=8
Paging=on
COM3Base=3E8
COM3Irq=4
COM4Base=2E8
COM4Irq=3
device=*enable

[NonWindowsApp]
TTInitialSizes=4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 20 22

[power.drv]



[mciseq.drv]

[mci]
cdaudio=mcicda.drv
sequencer=mciseq.drv
waveaudio=mciwave.drv
avivideo=mciavi.drv
videodisc=mcipionr.drv
vcr=mcivisca.drv
MPEGVideo=mciqtz.drv
MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv

[vcache]


[MSNP32]

[Password Lists]
default=C:\WINDOWS\default.PWL
DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG.PWL
GUEST=C:\WINDOWS\GUEST.PWL
ADMIN=C:\WINDOWS\ADMIN.PWL

[ScreenTime]
Password Value=0
previousProjectorProcessID=4294561761

[CineMac]
Password Value=0

[TTFontDimenCache]
0 4=2 4
0 5=3 5
0 6=4 6
0 7=4 7
0 8=5 8
0 9=5 9
0 10=6 10
0 11=7 11
0 12=7 12
0 13=8 13
0 14=8 14
0 15=9 15
0 16=10 16
0 18=11 18
0 20=12 20
0 22=13 22



"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> Hmm - now I see what the problem was!<g>[i]
> > ----------- RedSheriff Measurement -----------
> > Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm
> > Record Sent
> Remove that - it's part of a Spyware install!!
>
> Correct the next line to read
> [boot description]
>
> under
> [drivers32]
> remove the excess entries for
> msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> remove the following lines
> CacheBlockSize=000840FF1E20C30149
> CacheLineSize=0088A4F7B137C301CF
>
> Under [mci]
> remove
> QTWVideo=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIQTW.DRV
>
> add
>
> [TTFontDimenCache]
> 0 4=2 4
> 0 5=3 5
> 0 6=4 6
> 0 7=4 7
> 0 8=5 8
> 0 9=5 9
> 0 10=6 10
> 0 11=7 11
> 0 12=7 12
> 0 13=8 13
> 0 14=8 14
> 0 15=9 15
> 0 16=10 16
> 0 18=11 18
> 0 20=12 20
> 0 22=13 22
>
> and remove the second
> [boot description]
> section
>
> How much RAM is installed - if less than 576MB, remove the entry under the
> [vcache] header
>
> see how that works, and post back the new file
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>

[Mart]

Doug, where have the two previously(?) 'remmed' lines gone?

[boot]
> ; drivers=mmsystem.dll ***************
>
>
> ; sound.drv=mmsound.drv ***************
> etc., etc...

Have you tried re-installing your sound card drivers? There doesn't seem to
be any reference to its drivers anywhere in your latest system.ini file. In
fact, I didn't recognise ANY Creative Labs drivers in any of the files
you've posted.

I'm lost <g>

Mart


"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> Noel, thanks for all your help so far. I did what you said but I still
have
> no sound. I only have 256MB of RAM, so I deleted the line under the vcache
> header. Here's the updated system.ini file...
> ************************************************** ******
>
> [boot]
> *DisplayFallback=0
> fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
> fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
> oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
> 386Grabber=vgafull.3gr
> display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv
>
> [drivers]
> wavemapper=*.drv
> MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
> MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
>
> [drivers32]
> msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
> VIDC.VDOM=vdowave.drv
> msacm.msaudio1=msaud32.acm
> msacm.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
> MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
> MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
> MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
> MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
> MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
> vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
> VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
> vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
> VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
> msacm.l3acm=L3codecp.acm
> msacm.msadpcm1=msadp32.acm
> msacm.voxacm160=vct3216.acm
> VIDC.VIVO=ivvideo.dll
> msacm.vivog723=vivog723.acm
> VIDC.I263=i263_32.drv
> VIDC.I420=i263_32.drv
> vidc.mpg4=mpg4c32.dll
> vidc.mp42=mpg4c32.dll
> vidc.mp43=mpg4c32.dll
> VIDC.YUY2=msyuv.dll
> VIDC.UYVY=msyuv.dll
> VIDC.YVYU=msyuv.dll
> msacm.atrac3=atrac3.acm
> VIDC.IV41=ir41_32.dll
> VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
> VIDC.YVU9=iyvu9_32.dll
> VIDC.IV50=ir50_32.dll
>
>
> [386Enh]
> ebios=*ebios
> woafont=dosapp.fon
> device=*dynapage
> device=*vcd
> device=*vpd
> device=*int13
> keyboard=*vkd
> EMMExclude=C000-CFFF
> display=*vdd,*vflatd
> mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
> MinSPS=8
> Paging=on
> COM3Base=3E8
> COM3Irq=4
> COM4Base=2E8
> COM4Irq=3
> device=*enable
>
> [NonWindowsApp]
> TTInitialSizes=4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 20 22
>
> [power.drv]
>
>
>
> [mciseq.drv]
>
> [mci]
> cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> sequencer=mciseq.drv
> waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> avivideo=mciavi.drv
> videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> vcr=mcivisca.drv
> MPEGVideo=mciqtz.drv
> MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv
>
> [vcache]
>
>
> [MSNP32]
>
> [Password Lists]
> default=C:\WINDOWS\default.PWL
> DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG.PWL
> GUEST=C:\WINDOWS\GUEST.PWL
> ADMIN=C:\WINDOWS\ADMIN.PWL
>
> [ScreenTime]
> Password Value=0
> previousProjectorProcessID=4294561761
>
> [CineMac]
> Password Value=0
>
> [TTFontDimenCache]
> 0 4=2 4
> 0 5=3 5
> 0 6=4 6
> 0 7=4 7
> 0 8=5 8
> 0 9=5 9
> 0 10=6 10
> 0 11=7 11
> 0 12=7 12
> 0 13=8 13
> 0 14=8 14
> 0 15=9 15
> 0 16=10 16
> 0 18=11 18
> 0 20=12 20
> 0 22=13 22
>
>
>
> "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hmm - now I see what the problem was!<g>[i]
> > > ----------- RedSheriff Measurement -----------
> > > Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm
> > > Record Sent
> > Remove that - it's part of a Spyware install!!
> >
> > Correct the next line to read
> > [boot description]
> >
> > under
> > [drivers32]
> > remove the excess entries for
> > msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> > remove the following lines
> > CacheBlockSize=000840FF1E20C30149
> > CacheLineSize=0088A4F7B137C301CF
> >
> > Under [mci]
> > remove
> > QTWVideo=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIQTW.DRV
> >
> > add
> >
> > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > 0 4=2 4
> > 0 5=3 5
> > 0 6=4 6
> > 0 7=4 7
> > 0 8=5 8
> > 0 9=5 9
> > 0 10=6 10
> > 0 11=7 11
> > 0 12=7 12
> > 0 13=8 13
> > 0 14=8 14
> > 0 15=9 15
> > 0 16=10 16
> > 0 18=11 18
> > 0 20=12 20
> > 0 22=13 22
> >
> > and remove the second
> > [boot description]
> > section
> >
> > How much RAM is installed - if less than 576MB, remove the entry under
the
> > [vcache] header
> >
> > see how that works, and post back the new file
> >
> > --
> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> >
>
>

[masterprometheus]

"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> Here's the new version...
> **********************************************
>
>
> [boot]
> *DisplayFallback=0
> fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
> fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
> oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
> 386Grabber=vgafull.3gr
> display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

Are you sure this is all you have under the [boot] section. You don't
even have a shell entry. It's possible that Windows just defaults to
explorer if it can't find an entry for the shell but this is a very
truncated [boot] section anyway.


> [drivers]
> wavemapper=*.drv
> MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
> MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
>
> [drivers32]
> msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm

++Probably one entry enough. Maybe the result of installing sound
drivers a few times. Also in systems with audio problems you are advised
to rename this file (for example ctmp3.old or .bak or .doug). This is a
file mainly for creative mediaplayer++

> msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
> VIDC.VDOM=vdowave.drv
> msacm.msaudio1=msaud32.acm
> msacm.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
> MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
> MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
> MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
> MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
> MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
> vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
> VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
> vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
> VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
> msacm.l3acm=L3codecp.acm
> msacm.msadpcm1=msadp32.acm
> msacm.voxacm160=vct3216.acm
> VIDC.VIVO=ivvideo.dll
> msacm.vivog723=vivog723.acm
> VIDC.I263=i263_32.drv
> VIDC.I420i263_32.drv
> vidc.mpg4=mpg4c32.dll
> vidc.mp42=mpg4c32.dll
> vidc.mp43=mpg4c32.dll
> VIDC.YUY2=msyuv.dll
> VIDC.UYVY=msyuv.dll
> VIDC.YVYU=msyuv.dll
> msacm.atrac3=atrac3.acm
> VIDC.IV41=ir41_32.dll
> VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
> VIDC.YVU9=iyvu9_32.dll
> VIDC.IV50=ir50_32.dll

> ----------- RedSheriff Measurement -----------
> Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm
> Record Sent
> boot.description]
> system.drv=Standard PC
> keyboard.typ=Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
> aspect=100,96,96
> display.drv=Intel(R) 82810E Graphics Controller
> mouse.drv=Microsoft Mouse
+++++
Delete this part :
----------- RedSheriff Measurement -----------
Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm
Record Sent

and put a bracket before boot description :
[boot description]

+++++

> [386Enh]
> ebios=*ebios
> woafont=dosapp.fon
> device=*dynapage
> device=*vcd
> device=*vpd
> device=*int13
> keyboard=*vkd
> EMMExclude=C000-CFFF
> display=*vdd,*vflatd
> mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
> MinSPS=8
> Paging=on
> COM3Base=3E8
> COM3Irq=4
> COM4Base=2E8
> COM4Irq=3
> CacheBlockSize=000840FF1E20C30149
> CacheLineSize=0088A4F7B137C301CF
> device=*enable
>
> [NonWindowsApp]
> TTInitialSizes=4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 20 22
>
> [power.drv]
>
> [iccvid.drv]
>
> [mciseq.drv]
>
> [mci]
> cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> sequencer=mciseq.drv
> waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> avivideo=mciavi.drv
> videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> vcr=mcivisca.drv
> MPEGVideo=mciqtz.drv
> MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv
> QTWVideo=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIQTW.DRV
>
> [vcache]
> MaxFileCache=524288
>
> [MSNP32]
>
> [Password Lists]
> default=C:\WINDOWS\default.PWL
> DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG.PWL
> GUEST=C:\WINDOWS\GUEST.PWL
> ADMIN=C:\WINDOWS\ADMIN.PWL
>
> [ScreenTime]
> Password Value=0
> previousProjectorProcessID=4294561761
>
> [CineMac]
> Password Value=0
>
>
>
> [boot.description]
> aspect=100,96,96
> display.drv=Intel(R) 82810E Graphics Controller

++remove the above entry . If this is really your system.ini file,
something really bad happened to it.

MP

[Doug]

I don't know. I didn't delete them.


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Doug, where have the two previously(?) 'remmed' lines gone?
>
> [boot]
> > ; drivers=mmsystem.dll ***************
> >
> >
> > ; sound.drv=mmsound.drv ***************
> > etc., etc...
>
> Have you tried re-installing your sound card drivers? There doesn't seem
to
> be any reference to its drivers anywhere in your latest system.ini file.
In
> fact, I didn't recognise ANY Creative Labs drivers in any of the files
> you've posted.
>
> I'm lost <g>
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Doug" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Noel, thanks for all your help so far. I did what you said but I still
> have
> > no sound. I only have 256MB of RAM, so I deleted the line under the
vcache
> > header. Here's the updated system.ini file...
> > ************************************************** ******
> >
> > [boot]
> > *DisplayFallback=0
> > fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
> > fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
> > oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
> > 386Grabber=vgafull.3gr
> > display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv
> >
> > [drivers]
> > wavemapper=*.drv
> > MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
> > MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
> >
> > [drivers32]
> > msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> > msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
> > VIDC.VDOM=vdowave.drv
> > msacm.msaudio1=msaud32.acm
> > msacm.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
> > MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
> > MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
> > MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
> > MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
> > MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
> > vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
> > VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
> > vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
> > VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
> > msacm.l3acm=L3codecp.acm
> > msacm.msadpcm1=msadp32.acm
> > msacm.voxacm160=vct3216.acm
> > VIDC.VIVO=ivvideo.dll
> > msacm.vivog723=vivog723.acm
> > VIDC.I263=i263_32.drv
> > VIDC.I420=i263_32.drv
> > vidc.mpg4=mpg4c32.dll
> > vidc.mp42=mpg4c32.dll
> > vidc.mp43=mpg4c32.dll
> > VIDC.YUY2=msyuv.dll
> > VIDC.UYVY=msyuv.dll
> > VIDC.YVYU=msyuv.dll
> > msacm.atrac3=atrac3.acm
> > VIDC.IV41=ir41_32.dll
> > VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
> > VIDC.YVU9=iyvu9_32.dll
> > VIDC.IV50=ir50_32.dll
> >
> >
> > [386Enh]
> > ebios=*ebios
> > woafont=dosapp.fon
> > device=*dynapage
> > device=*vcd
> > device=*vpd
> > device=*int13
> > keyboard=*vkd
> > EMMExclude=C000-CFFF
> > display=*vdd,*vflatd
> > mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
> > MinSPS=8
> > Paging=on
> > COM3Base=3E8
> > COM3Irq=4
> > COM4Base=2E8
> > COM4Irq=3
> > device=*enable
> >
> > [NonWindowsApp]
> > TTInitialSizes=4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 20 22
> >
> > [power.drv]
> >
> >
> >
> > [mciseq.drv]
> >
> > [mci]
> > cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> > sequencer=mciseq.drv
> > waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> > avivideo=mciavi.drv
> > videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> > vcr=mcivisca.drv
> > MPEGVideo=mciqtz.drv
> > MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv
> >
> > [vcache]
> >
> >
> > [MSNP32]
> >
> > [Password Lists]
> > default=C:\WINDOWS\default.PWL
> > DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG.PWL
> > GUEST=C:\WINDOWS\GUEST.PWL
> > ADMIN=C:\WINDOWS\ADMIN.PWL
> >
> > [ScreenTime]
> > Password Value=0
> > previousProjectorProcessID=4294561761
> >
> > [CineMac]
> > Password Value=0
> >
> > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > 0 4=2 4
> > 0 5=3 5
> > 0 6=4 6
> > 0 7=4 7
> > 0 8=5 8
> > 0 9=5 9
> > 0 10=6 10
> > 0 11=7 11
> > 0 12=7 12
> > 0 13=8 13
> > 0 14=8 14
> > 0 15=9 15
> > 0 16=10 16
> > 0 18=11 18
> > 0 20=12 20
> > 0 22=13 22
> >
> >
> >
> > "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> > ...[i]
> > > Hmm - now I see what the problem was!<g>
> > > > ----------- RedSheriff Measurement -----------
> > > > Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm
> > > > Record Sent
> > > Remove that - it's part of a Spyware install!!
> > >
> > > Correct the next line to read
> > > [boot description]
> > >
> > > under
> > > [drivers32]
> > > remove the excess entries for
> > > msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> > > remove the following lines
> > > CacheBlockSize=000840FF1E20C30149
> > > CacheLineSize=0088A4F7B137C301CF
> > >
> > > Under [mci]
> > > remove
> > > QTWVideo=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIQTW.DRV
> > >
> > > add
> > >
> > > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > > 0 4=2 4
> > > 0 5=3 5
> > > 0 6=4 6
> > > 0 7=4 7
> > > 0 8=5 8
> > > 0 9=5 9
> > > 0 10=6 10
> > > 0 11=7 11
> > > 0 12=7 12
> > > 0 13=8 13
> > > 0 14=8 14
> > > 0 15=9 15
> > > 0 16=10 16
> > > 0 18=11 18
> > > 0 20=12 20
> > > 0 22=13 22
> > >
> > > and remove the second
> > > [boot description]
> > > section
> > >
> > > How much RAM is installed - if less than 576MB, remove the entry under
> the
> > > [vcache] header
> > >
> > > see how that works, and post back the new file
> > >
> > > --
> > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Mart]

Mmmm.... on reflection, I think ctxxx.xxx files maybe Creative ones.

But just wondering if it might be worthwhile starting with a 'fresh' copy of
System.ini which can be extracted from the mini.cab on your WinMe CD (or the
Setup files in the Windows\Options.... folder.)

You may well have to re-install or re-set some of your other drivers in the
process, but it should clear the offending remnants.

You can always put you 'old' copy back if it makes it worse.

Mart



"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> I don't know. I didn't delete them.
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Doug, where have the two previously(?) 'remmed' lines gone?
> >
> > [boot]
> > > ; drivers=mmsystem.dll ***************
> > >
> > >
> > > ; sound.drv=mmsound.drv ***************
> > > etc., etc...
> >
> > Have you tried re-installing your sound card drivers? There doesn't
seem
> to
> > be any reference to its drivers anywhere in your latest system.ini file.
> In
> > fact, I didn't recognise ANY Creative Labs drivers in any of the files
> > you've posted.
> >
> > I'm lost <g>
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Noel, thanks for all your help so far. I did what you said but I still
> > have
> > > no sound. I only have 256MB of RAM, so I deleted the line under the
> vcache
> > > header. Here's the updated system.ini file...
> > > ************************************************** ******
> > >
> > > [boot]
> > > *DisplayFallback=0
> > > fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
> > > fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
> > > oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
> > > 386Grabber=vgafull.3gr
> > > display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv
> > >
> > > [drivers]
> > > wavemapper=*.drv
> > > MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
> > > MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
> > >
> > > [drivers32]
> > > msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> > > msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
> > > VIDC.VDOM=vdowave.drv
> > > msacm.msaudio1=msaud32.acm
> > > msacm.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
> > > MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
> > > MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
> > > MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
> > > MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
> > > MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
> > > vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
> > > VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
> > > vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
> > > VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
> > > msacm.l3acm=L3codecp.acm
> > > msacm.msadpcm1=msadp32.acm
> > > msacm.voxacm160=vct3216.acm
> > > VIDC.VIVO=ivvideo.dll
> > > msacm.vivog723=vivog723.acm
> > > VIDC.I263=i263_32.drv
> > > VIDC.I420=i263_32.drv
> > > vidc.mpg4=mpg4c32.dll
> > > vidc.mp42=mpg4c32.dll
> > > vidc.mp43=mpg4c32.dll
> > > VIDC.YUY2=msyuv.dll
> > > VIDC.UYVY=msyuv.dll
> > > VIDC.YVYU=msyuv.dll
> > > msacm.atrac3=atrac3.acm
> > > VIDC.IV41=ir41_32.dll
> > > VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
> > > VIDC.YVU9=iyvu9_32.dll
> > > VIDC.IV50=ir50_32.dll
> > >
> > >
> > > [386Enh]
> > > ebios=*ebios
> > > woafont=dosapp.fon
> > > device=*dynapage
> > > device=*vcd
> > > device=*vpd
> > > device=*int13
> > > keyboard=*vkd
> > > EMMExclude=C000-CFFF
> > > display=*vdd,*vflatd
> > > mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
> > > MinSPS=8
> > > Paging=on
> > > COM3Base=3E8
> > > COM3Irq=4
> > > COM4Base=2E8
> > > COM4Irq=3
> > > device=*enable
> > >
> > > [NonWindowsApp]
> > > TTInitialSizes=4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 20 22
> > >
> > > [power.drv]
> > >
> > > [iccvid.drv]
> > >
> > > [mciseq.drv]
> > >
> > > [mci]
> > > cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> > > sequencer=mciseq.drv
> > > waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> > > avivideo=mciavi.drv
> > > videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> > > vcr=mcivisca.drv
> > > MPEGVideo=mciqtz.drv
> > > MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv
> > >
> > > [vcache]
> > >
> > >
> > > [MSNP32]
> > >
> > > [Password Lists]
> > > default=C:\WINDOWS\default.PWL
> > > DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG.PWL
> > > GUEST=C:\WINDOWS\GUEST.PWL
> > > ADMIN=C:\WINDOWS\ADMIN.PWL
> > >
> > > [ScreenTime]
> > > Password Value=0
> > > previousProjectorProcessID=4294561761
> > >
> > > [CineMac]
> > > Password Value=0
> > >
> > > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > > 0 4=2 4
> > > 0 5=3 5
> > > 0 6=4 6
> > > 0 7=4 7
> > > 0 8=5 8
> > > 0 9=5 9
> > > 0 10=6 10
> > > 0 11=7 11
> > > 0 12=7 12
> > > 0 13=8 13
> > > 0 14=8 14
> > > 0 15=9 15
> > > 0 16=10 16
> > > 0 18=11 18
> > > 0 20=12 20
> > > 0 22=13 22
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Hmm - now I see what the problem was!<g>
> > > > > ----------- RedSheriff Measurement -----------
> > > > > Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm
> > > > > Record Sent
> > > > Remove that - it's part of a Spyware install!!
> > > >
> > > > Correct the next line to read
> > > > [boot description]
> > > >
> > > > under
> > > > [drivers32]
> > > > remove the excess entries for
> > > > msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> > > > remove the following lines
> > > > CacheBlockSize=000840FF1E20C30149
> > > > CacheLineSize=0088A4F7B137C301CF
> > > >
> > > > Under [mci]
> > > > remove
> > > > QTWVideo=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIQTW.DRV
> > > >
> > > > add
> > > >
> > > > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > > > 0 4=2 4
> > > > 0 5=3 5
> > > > 0 6=4 6
> > > > 0 7=4 7
> > > > 0 8=5 8
> > > > 0 9=5 9
> > > > 0 10=6 10
> > > > 0 11=7 11
> > > > 0 12=7 12
> > > > 0 13=8 13
> > > > 0 14=8 14
> > > > 0 15=9 15
> > > > 0 16=10 16
> > > > 0 18=11 18
> > > > 0 20=12 20
> > > > 0 22=13 22
> > > >
> > > > and remove the second
> > > > [boot description]
> > > > section
> > > >
> > > > How much RAM is installed - if less than 576MB, remove the entry
under
> > the
> > > > [vcache] header
> > > >
> > > > see how that works, and post back the new file
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Doug]

OK what do I need to do to extract from the WinME CD. I don't want to screw
anything up.


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Mmmm.... on reflection, I think ctxxx.xxx files maybe Creative ones.
>
> But just wondering if it might be worthwhile starting with a 'fresh' copy
of
> System.ini which can be extracted from the mini.cab on your WinMe CD (or
the
> Setup files in the Windows\Options.... folder.)
>
> You may well have to re-install or re-set some of your other drivers in
the
> process, but it should clear the offending remnants.
>
> You can always put you 'old' copy back if it makes it worse.
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "Doug" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I don't know. I didn't delete them.
> >
> >
> > "Mart" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Doug, where have the two previously(?) 'remmed' lines gone?
> > >
> > > [boot]
> > > > ; drivers=mmsystem.dll ***************
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ; sound.drv=mmsound.drv ***************
> > > > etc., etc...
> > >
> > > Have you tried re-installing your sound card drivers? There doesn't
> seem
> > to
> > > be any reference to its drivers anywhere in your latest system.ini
file.
> > In
> > > fact, I didn't recognise ANY Creative Labs drivers in any of the files
> > > you've posted.
> > >
> > > I'm lost <g>
> > >
> > > Mart
> > >
> > >
> > > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Noel, thanks for all your help so far. I did what you said but I
still
> > > have
> > > > no sound. I only have 256MB of RAM, so I deleted the line under the
> > vcache
> > > > header. Here's the updated system.ini file...
> > > > ************************************************** ******
> > > >
> > > > [boot]
> > > > *DisplayFallback=0
> > > > fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
> > > > fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
> > > > oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
> > > > 386Grabber=vgafull.3gr
> > > > display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv
> > > >
> > > > [drivers]
> > > > wavemapper=*.drv
> > > > MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
> > > > MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
> > > >
> > > > [drivers32]
> > > > msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> > > > msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
> > > > VIDC.VDOM=vdowave.drv
> > > > msacm.msaudio1=msaud32.acm
> > > > msacm.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
> > > > MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
> > > > MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
> > > > MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
> > > > MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
> > > > MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
> > > > vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
> > > > VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
> > > > vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
> > > > VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
> > > > msacm.l3acm=L3codecp.acm
> > > > msacm.msadpcm1=msadp32.acm
> > > > msacm.voxacm160=vct3216.acm
> > > > VIDC.VIVO=ivvideo.dll
> > > > msacm.vivog723=vivog723.acm
> > > > VIDC.I263=i263_32.drv
> > > > VIDC.I420=i263_32.drv
> > > > vidc.mpg4=mpg4c32.dll
> > > > vidc.mp42=mpg4c32.dll
> > > > vidc.mp43=mpg4c32.dll
> > > > VIDC.YUY2=msyuv.dll
> > > > VIDC.UYVY=msyuv.dll
> > > > VIDC.YVYU=msyuv.dll
> > > > msacm.atrac3=atrac3.acm
> > > > VIDC.IV41=ir41_32.dll
> > > > VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
> > > > VIDC.YVU9=iyvu9_32.dll
> > > > VIDC.IV50=ir50_32.dll
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [386Enh]
> > > > ebios=*ebios
> > > > woafont=dosapp.fon
> > > > device=*dynapage
> > > > device=*vcd
> > > > device=*vpd
> > > > device=*int13
> > > > keyboard=*vkd
> > > > EMMExclude=C000-CFFF
> > > > display=*vdd,*vflatd
> > > > mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
> > > > MinSPS=8
> > > > Paging=on
> > > > COM3Base=3E8
> > > > COM3Irq=4
> > > > COM4Base=2E8
> > > > COM4Irq=3
> > > > device=*enable
> > > >
> > > > [NonWindowsApp]
> > > > TTInitialSizes=4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 20 22
> > > >
> > > > [power.drv]
> > > >
> > > > [iccvid.drv]
> > > >
> > > > [mciseq.drv]
> > > >
> > > > [mci]
> > > > cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> > > > sequencer=mciseq.drv
> > > > waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> > > > avivideo=mciavi.drv
> > > > videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> > > > vcr=mcivisca.drv
> > > > MPEGVideo=mciqtz.drv
> > > > MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv
> > > >
> > > > [vcache]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [MSNP32]
> > > >
> > > > [Password Lists]
> > > > default=C:\WINDOWS\default.PWL
> > > > DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG.PWL
> > > > GUEST=C:\WINDOWS\GUEST.PWL
> > > > ADMIN=C:\WINDOWS\ADMIN.PWL
> > > >
> > > > [ScreenTime]
> > > > Password Value=0
> > > > previousProjectorProcessID=4294561761
> > > >
> > > > [CineMac]
> > > > Password Value=0
> > > >
> > > > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > > > 0 4=2 4
> > > > 0 5=3 5
> > > > 0 6=4 6
> > > > 0 7=4 7
> > > > 0 8=5 8
> > > > 0 9=5 9
> > > > 0 10=6 10
> > > > 0 11=7 11
> > > > 0 12=7 12
> > > > 0 13=8 13
> > > > 0 14=8 14
> > > > 0 15=9 15
> > > > 0 16=10 16
> > > > 0 18=11 18
> > > > 0 20=12 20
> > > > 0 22=13 22
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Hmm - now I see what the problem was!<g>
> > > > > > ----------- RedSheriff Measurement -----------
> > > > > > Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm
> > > > > > Record Sent
> > > > > Remove that - it's part of a Spyware install!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Correct the next line to read
> > > > > [boot description]
> > > > >
> > > > > under
> > > > > [drivers32]
> > > > > remove the excess entries for
> > > > > msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> > > > > remove the following lines
> > > > > CacheBlockSize=000840FF1E20C30149
> > > > > CacheLineSize=0088A4F7B137C301CF
> > > > >
> > > > > Under [mci]
> > > > > remove
> > > > > QTWVideo=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIQTW.DRV
> > > > >
> > > > > add
> > > > >
> > > > > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > > > > 0 4=2 4
> > > > > 0 5=3 5
> > > > > 0 6=4 6
> > > > > 0 7=4 7
> > > > > 0 8=5 8
> > > > > 0 9=5 9
> > > > > 0 10=6 10
> > > > > 0 11=7 11
> > > > > 0 12=7 12
> > > > > 0 13=8 13
> > > > > 0 14=8 14
> > > > > 0 15=9 15
> > > > > 0 16=10 16
> > > > > 0 18=11 18
> > > > > 0 20=12 20
> > > > > 0 22=13 22
> > > > >
> > > > > and remove the second
> > > > > [boot description]
> > > > > section
> > > > >
> > > > > How much RAM is installed - if less than 576MB, remove the entry
> under
> > > the
> > > > > [vcache] header
> > > > >
> > > > > see how that works, and post back the new file
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Mart]

Several options, the official being to use msconfig.exe and use the
'extract' option.

See the following Knowledge Base article:-
"How to Extract and Replace a Protected File in Windows Me"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;265371

The 'fresh' system.ini file is mini.cab in the \Win9x folder. You might even
be able to view AND extract the file from the cab using Widows Explorer.
Just make sure that you haven't got system files hidden.

At this stage, just put the extracted file into a temporary folder until you
are ready to do the actual deed <g>. It will also give you the opportunity
to view it both before and after replacing it, so that you could (if you
want) note any changes after the setup.

> .... I don't want to screw
> anything up.

You've always got your 'original' copy of system ini (haven't you? <g>) AND
there's always System Restore to fall back on (if it still works <g>)

HTH and good luck

Mart


"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> OK what do I need to do to extract from the WinME CD. I don't want to
screw
> anything up.
>
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Mmmm.... on reflection, I think ctxxx.xxx files maybe Creative ones.
> >
> > But just wondering if it might be worthwhile starting with a 'fresh'
copy
> of
> > System.ini which can be extracted from the mini.cab on your WinMe CD (or
> the
> > Setup files in the Windows\Options.... folder.)
> >
> > You may well have to re-install or re-set some of your other drivers in
> the
> > process, but it should clear the offending remnants.
> >
> > You can always put you 'old' copy back if it makes it worse.
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> >
> > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I don't know. I didn't delete them.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mart" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Doug, where have the two previously(?) 'remmed' lines gone?
> > > >
> > > > [boot]
> > > > > ; drivers=mmsystem.dll ***************
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ; sound.drv=mmsound.drv ***************
> > > > > etc., etc...
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried re-installing your sound card drivers? There doesn't
> > seem
> > > to
> > > > be any reference to its drivers anywhere in your latest system.ini
> file.
> > > In
> > > > fact, I didn't recognise ANY Creative Labs drivers in any of the
files
> > > > you've posted.
> > > >
> > > > I'm lost <g>
> > > >
> > > > Mart
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Noel, thanks for all your help so far. I did what you said but I
> still
> > > > have
> > > > > no sound. I only have 256MB of RAM, so I deleted the line under
the
> > > vcache
> > > > > header. Here's the updated system.ini file...
> > > > > ************************************************** ******
> > > > >
> > > > > [boot]
> > > > > *DisplayFallback=0
> > > > > fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
> > > > > fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
> > > > > oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
> > > > > 386Grabber=vgafull.3gr
> > > > > display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv
> > > > >
> > > > > [drivers]
> > > > > wavemapper=*.drv
> > > > > MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
> > > > > MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
> > > > >
> > > > > [drivers32]
> > > > > msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> > > > > msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
> > > > > VIDC.VDOM=vdowave.drv
> > > > > msacm.msaudio1=msaud32.acm
> > > > > msacm.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
> > > > > MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
> > > > > MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
> > > > > MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
> > > > > MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
> > > > > MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
> > > > > vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
> > > > > VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
> > > > > vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
> > > > > VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
> > > > > msacm.l3acm=L3codecp.acm
> > > > > msacm.msadpcm1=msadp32.acm
> > > > > msacm.voxacm160=vct3216.acm
> > > > > VIDC.VIVO=ivvideo.dll
> > > > > msacm.vivog723=vivog723.acm
> > > > > VIDC.I263=i263_32.drv
> > > > > VIDC.I420=i263_32.drv
> > > > > vidc.mpg4=mpg4c32.dll
> > > > > vidc.mp42=mpg4c32.dll
> > > > > vidc.mp43=mpg4c32.dll
> > > > > VIDC.YUY2=msyuv.dll
> > > > > VIDC.UYVY=msyuv.dll
> > > > > VIDC.YVYU=msyuv.dll
> > > > > msacm.atrac3=atrac3.acm
> > > > > VIDC.IV41=ir41_32.dll
> > > > > VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
> > > > > VIDC.YVU9=iyvu9_32.dll
> > > > > VIDC.IV50=ir50_32.dll
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [386Enh]
> > > > > ebios=*ebios
> > > > > woafont=dosapp.fon
> > > > > device=*dynapage
> > > > > device=*vcd
> > > > > device=*vpd
> > > > > device=*int13
> > > > > keyboard=*vkd
> > > > > EMMExclude=C000-CFFF
> > > > > display=*vdd,*vflatd
> > > > > mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
> > > > > MinSPS=8
> > > > > Paging=on
> > > > > COM3Base=3E8
> > > > > COM3Irq=4
> > > > > COM4Base=2E8
> > > > > COM4Irq=3
> > > > > device=*enable
> > > > >
> > > > > [NonWindowsApp]
> > > > > TTInitialSizes=4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 20 22
> > > > >
> > > > > [power.drv]
> > > > >
> > > > > [iccvid.drv]
> > > > >
> > > > > [mciseq.drv]
> > > > >
> > > > > [mci]
> > > > > cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> > > > > sequencer=mciseq.drv
> > > > > waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> > > > > avivideo=mciavi.drv
> > > > > videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> > > > > vcr=mcivisca.drv
> > > > > MPEGVideo=mciqtz.drv
> > > > > MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv
> > > > >
> > > > > [vcache]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [MSNP32]
> > > > >
> > > > > [Password Lists]
> > > > > default=C:\WINDOWS\default.PWL
> > > > > DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG.PWL
> > > > > GUEST=C:\WINDOWS\GUEST.PWL
> > > > > ADMIN=C:\WINDOWS\ADMIN.PWL
> > > > >
> > > > > [ScreenTime]
> > > > > Password Value=0
> > > > > previousProjectorProcessID=4294561761
> > > > >
> > > > > [CineMac]
> > > > > Password Value=0
> > > > >
> > > > > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > > > > 0 4=2 4
> > > > > 0 5=3 5
> > > > > 0 6=4 6
> > > > > 0 7=4 7
> > > > > 0 8=5 8
> > > > > 0 9=5 9
> > > > > 0 10=6 10
> > > > > 0 11=7 11
> > > > > 0 12=7 12
> > > > > 0 13=8 13
> > > > > 0 14=8 14
> > > > > 0 15=9 15
> > > > > 0 16=10 16
> > > > > 0 18=11 18
> > > > > 0 20=12 20
> > > > > 0 22=13 22
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Hmm - now I see what the problem was!<g>
> > > > > > > ----------- RedSheriff Measurement -----------
> > > > > > > Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm
> > > > > > > Record Sent
> > > > > > Remove that - it's part of a Spyware install!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Correct the next line to read
> > > > > > [boot description]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > under
> > > > > > [drivers32]
> > > > > > remove the excess entries for
> > > > > > msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> > > > > > remove the following lines
> > > > > > CacheBlockSize=000840FF1E20C30149
> > > > > > CacheLineSize=0088A4F7B137C301CF
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Under [mci]
> > > > > > remove
> > > > > > QTWVideo=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIQTW.DRV
> > > > > >
> > > > > > add
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > > > > > 0 4=2 4
> > > > > > 0 5=3 5
> > > > > > 0 6=4 6
> > > > > > 0 7=4 7
> > > > > > 0 8=5 8
> > > > > > 0 9=5 9
> > > > > > 0 10=6 10
> > > > > > 0 11=7 11
> > > > > > 0 12=7 12
> > > > > > 0 13=8 13
> > > > > > 0 14=8 14
> > > > > > 0 15=9 15
> > > > > > 0 16=10 16
> > > > > > 0 18=11 18
> > > > > > 0 20=12 20
> > > > > > 0 22=13 22
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and remove the second
> > > > > > [boot description]
> > > > > > section
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How much RAM is installed - if less than 576MB, remove the entry
> > under
> > > > the
> > > > > > [vcache] header
> > > > > >
> > > > > > see how that works, and post back the new file
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Doug]

OK, something really bad happened with this move, I don't think I'm going to
try this again. I almost had to reload windows. I followed the instructions
from this web page, restarted windows, and the PC shut down, telling me it
can't find some file named win9x.bin (or maybe win9xsetup.bin, I can't
remember).

I had to go into DOS Mode and reload my original SYSTEM.INI file from the
BACKUPS directory.


Doug



"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> Several options, the official being to use msconfig.exe and use the
> 'extract' option.
>
> See the following Knowledge Base article:-
> "How to Extract and Replace a Protected File in Windows Me"
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;265371
>
> The 'fresh' system.ini file is mini.cab in the \Win9x folder. You might
even
> be able to view AND extract the file from the cab using Widows Explorer.
> Just make sure that you haven't got system files hidden.
>
> At this stage, just put the extracted file into a temporary folder until
you
> are ready to do the actual deed <g>. It will also give you the
opportunity
> to view it both before and after replacing it, so that you could (if you
> want) note any changes after the setup.
>
> > .... I don't want to screw
> > anything up.
>
> You've always got your 'original' copy of system ini (haven't you? <g>)
AND
> there's always System Restore to fall back on (if it still works <g>)
>
> HTH and good luck
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Doug" > wrote in message
> ...
> > OK what do I need to do to extract from the WinME CD. I don't want to
> screw
> > anything up.
> >
> >
> > "Mart" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Mmmm.... on reflection, I think ctxxx.xxx files maybe Creative
ones.
> > >
> > > But just wondering if it might be worthwhile starting with a 'fresh'
> copy
> > of
> > > System.ini which can be extracted from the mini.cab on your WinMe CD
(or
> > the
> > > Setup files in the Windows\Options.... folder.)
> > >
> > > You may well have to re-install or re-set some of your other drivers
in
> > the
> > > process, but it should clear the offending remnants.
> > >
> > > You can always put you 'old' copy back if it makes it worse.
> > >
> > > Mart
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I don't know. I didn't delete them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mart" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Doug, where have the two previously(?) 'remmed' lines gone?
> > > > >
> > > > > [boot]
> > > > > > ; drivers=mmsystem.dll ***************
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ; sound.drv=mmsound.drv ***************
> > > > > > etc., etc...
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you tried re-installing your sound card drivers? There
doesn't
> > > seem
> > > > to
> > > > > be any reference to its drivers anywhere in your latest system.ini
> > file.
> > > > In
> > > > > fact, I didn't recognise ANY Creative Labs drivers in any of the
> files
> > > > > you've posted.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm lost <g>
> > > > >
> > > > > Mart
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Doug" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Noel, thanks for all your help so far. I did what you said but I
> > still
> > > > > have
> > > > > > no sound. I only have 256MB of RAM, so I deleted the line under
> the
> > > > vcache
> > > > > > header. Here's the updated system.ini file...
> > > > > > ************************************************** ******
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [boot]
> > > > > > *DisplayFallback=0
> > > > > > fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
> > > > > > fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
> > > > > > oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
> > > > > > 386Grabber=vgafull.3gr
> > > > > > display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [drivers]
> > > > > > wavemapper=*.drv
> > > > > > MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
> > > > > > MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [drivers32]
> > > > > > msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> > > > > > msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
> > > > > > VIDC.VDOM=vdowave.drv
> > > > > > msacm.msaudio1=msaud32.acm
> > > > > > msacm.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
> > > > > > MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
> > > > > > MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
> > > > > > MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
> > > > > > MSACM.msg711=msg711.acm
> > > > > > MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
> > > > > > vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
> > > > > > VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
> > > > > > vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
> > > > > > VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
> > > > > > msacm.l3acm=L3codecp.acm
> > > > > > msacm.msadpcm1=msadp32.acm
> > > > > > msacm.voxacm160=vct3216.acm
> > > > > > VIDC.VIVO=ivvideo.dll
> > > > > > msacm.vivog723=vivog723.acm
> > > > > > VIDC.I263=i263_32.drv
> > > > > > VIDC.I420=i263_32.drv
> > > > > > vidc.mpg4=mpg4c32.dll
> > > > > > vidc.mp42=mpg4c32.dll
> > > > > > vidc.mp43=mpg4c32.dll
> > > > > > VIDC.YUY2=msyuv.dll
> > > > > > VIDC.UYVY=msyuv.dll
> > > > > > VIDC.YVYU=msyuv.dll
> > > > > > msacm.atrac3=atrac3.acm
> > > > > > VIDC.IV41=ir41_32.dll
> > > > > > VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
> > > > > > VIDC.YVU9=iyvu9_32.dll
> > > > > > VIDC.IV50=ir50_32.dll
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [386Enh]
> > > > > > ebios=*ebios
> > > > > > woafont=dosapp.fon
> > > > > > device=*dynapage
> > > > > > device=*vcd
> > > > > > device=*vpd
> > > > > > device=*int13
> > > > > > keyboard=*vkd
> > > > > > EMMExclude=C000-CFFF
> > > > > > display=*vdd,*vflatd
> > > > > > mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
> > > > > > MinSPS=8
> > > > > > Paging=on
> > > > > > COM3Base=3E8
> > > > > > COM3Irq=4
> > > > > > COM4Base=2E8
> > > > > > COM4Irq=3
> > > > > > device=*enable
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [NonWindowsApp]
> > > > > > TTInitialSizes=4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 20 22
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [power.drv]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [iccvid.drv]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [mciseq.drv]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [mci]
> > > > > > cdaudio=mcicda.drv
> > > > > > sequencer=mciseq.drv
> > > > > > waveaudio=mciwave.drv
> > > > > > avivideo=mciavi.drv
> > > > > > videodisc=mcipionr.drv
> > > > > > vcr=mcivisca.drv
> > > > > > MPEGVideo=mciqtz.drv
> > > > > > MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [vcache]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [MSNP32]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Password Lists]
> > > > > > default=C:\WINDOWS\default.PWL
> > > > > > DOUG=C:\WINDOWS\DOUG.PWL
> > > > > > GUEST=C:\WINDOWS\GUEST.PWL
> > > > > > ADMIN=C:\WINDOWS\ADMIN.PWL
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [ScreenTime]
> > > > > > Password Value=0
> > > > > > previousProjectorProcessID=4294561761
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [CineMac]
> > > > > > Password Value=0
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > > > > > 0 4=2 4
> > > > > > 0 5=3 5
> > > > > > 0 6=4 6
> > > > > > 0 7=4 7
> > > > > > 0 8=5 8
> > > > > > 0 9=5 9
> > > > > > 0 10=6 10
> > > > > > 0 11=7 11
> > > > > > 0 12=7 12
> > > > > > 0 13=8 13
> > > > > > 0 14=8 14
> > > > > > 0 15=9 15
> > > > > > 0 16=10 16
> > > > > > 0 18=11 18
> > > > > > 0 20=12 20
> > > > > > 0 22=13 22
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Hmm - now I see what the problem was!<g>
> > > > > > > > ----------- RedSheriff Measurement -----------
> > > > > > > > Privacy: http://www.redsheriff.com/privacy.htm
> > > > > > > > Record Sent
> > > > > > > Remove that - it's part of a Spyware install!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Correct the next line to read
> > > > > > > [boot description]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > under
> > > > > > > [drivers32]
> > > > > > > remove the excess entries for
> > > > > > > msacm.ctmp3=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\ctmp3.acm
> > > > > > > remove the following lines
> > > > > > > CacheBlockSize=000840FF1E20C30149
> > > > > > > CacheLineSize=0088A4F7B137C301CF
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Under [mci]
> > > > > > > remove
> > > > > > > QTWVideo=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIQTW.DRV
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > add
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [TTFontDimenCache]
> > > > > > > 0 4=2 4
> > > > > > > 0 5=3 5
> > > > > > > 0 6=4 6
> > > > > > > 0 7=4 7
> > > > > > > 0 8=5 8
> > > > > > > 0 9=5 9
> > > > > > > 0 10=6 10
> > > > > > > 0 11=7 11
> > > > > > > 0 12=7 12
> > > > > > > 0 13=8 13
> > > > > > > 0 14=8 14
> > > > > > > 0 15=9 15
> > > > > > > 0 16=10 16
> > > > > > > 0 18=11 18
> > > > > > > 0 20=12 20
> > > > > > > 0 22=13 22
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and remove the second
> > > > > > > [boot description]
> > > > > > > section
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How much RAM is installed - if less than 576MB, remove the
entry
> > > under
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > [vcache] header
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > see how that works, and post back the new file
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Mart]

Doug wrote:-

> I had to go into DOS Mode and reload my original SYSTEM.INI file from the
> BACKUPS directory.

Which is precisely why I suggested "Make a copy of the file and keep it safe
(in case you need to use it later)" in one of my earlier posts!!

win9xsetup.bin is in the \Win9x folder of the WinMe CD and it was *probably*
trying to set-up your hardware again to re-populate the system.ini file.

However, I still think that you've got one or more 'rogue' entries or files
floating around your PC somewhere which need flushing out. The line(s) in
system ini *may* actually be 'correct' but calling old or damaged files
elsewhere. Bear in mind that although different (older) versions, 'updated'
files/drivers usually retain the same name <g>

As a matter of interest, what was wrong with your original sound card? And,
as you were changing it, did you 'Remove' all of its software/drivers BEFORE
you started installing your new card? It *may* have used generic Creative
files which are often common to many sound cards.

You could try (physically) removing the new card and (cold) booting
*several* times - checking, each time for oddments/remnants in Device
Manager, again to help flush things out. It might also be worth searching
your system for all 'redundant' Creative and previous sound cards' files
(look also in the Windows\ini folder and sub-folders).

I would very reluctantly suggest a third-party registry cleaning utility -
but these can cause far more harm than good if they are not used
cautiously!!

Only when you are (reasonably) satisfied that all the junk has been cleared,
then try re-installing your SB Live! 5.1 again. A long process, but even '10
goes' with Creative, wasn't able to fix it <g>

Good luck

Mart


"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> OK, something really bad happened with this move, I don't think I'm going
to
> try this again. I almost had to reload windows. I followed the
instructions
> from this web page, restarted windows, and the PC shut down, telling me it
> can't find some file named win9x.bin (or maybe win9xsetup.bin, I can't
> remember).
>
> I had to go into DOS Mode and reload my original SYSTEM.INI file from the
> BACKUPS directory.
>
>
> Doug
>
<snipped>

[Doug]

>
> Which is precisely why I suggested "Make a copy of the file and keep it
safe
> (in case you need to use it later)" in one of my earlier posts!!

Thanks for that advice.

>
> As a matter of interest, what was wrong with your original sound card?
And,
> as you were changing it, did you 'Remove' all of its software/drivers
BEFORE
> you started installing your new card? It *may* have used generic Creative
> files which are often common to many sound cards.
>

I wasn't getting any sound at all from the old sound card. Not much has
changed here. I did remove all the old drivers in safe mode.

> You could try (physically) removing the new card and (cold) booting
> *several* times - checking, each time for oddments/remnants in Device
> Manager, again to help flush things out. It might also be worth searching
> your system for all 'redundant' Creative and previous sound cards' files
> (look also in the Windows\ini folder and sub-folders).
>

I'll try this move again. Thanks.

> I would very reluctantly suggest a third-party registry cleaning utility -
> but these can cause far more harm than good if they are not used
> cautiously!!
>

Any suggestions here?

[Mart]

> > I would very reluctantly suggest a third-party registry cleaning
utility -
> > but these can cause far more harm than good if they are not used
> > cautiously!!
> >
>
> Any suggestions here?

I use an old(ish) version of the jv16 RegCleaner (which was freeware when I
D/L'd it quite some time ago - but it has been superseded by RegSupreme
which is no longer free)

May be worth trawling the Web yourself for something - BUT be VERY careful
when 'playing' in the Registry with any kind of registry utility - Don't say
that you weren't warned!!

In the mean time, I'm still trying to get my head around a previous
statement you made:-

> OK I found the offending file. It's the System.ini file.
> I unchecked it and used selective startup, and I had
> sound on startup, including the WinME
> "fanfare". I can play CD's, MP3's, everything.

Not quite too sure *what* you unchecked (in what application/utility)
and *how did you 'use' selective startup? - in msconfig or the DOS start
menu?

Mart


"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> >
> > Which is precisely why I suggested "Make a copy of the file and keep it
> safe
> > (in case you need to use it later)" in one of my earlier posts!!
>
> Thanks for that advice.
>
> >
> > As a matter of interest, what was wrong with your original sound card?
> And,
> > as you were changing it, did you 'Remove' all of its software/drivers
> BEFORE
> > you started installing your new card? It *may* have used generic
Creative
> > files which are often common to many sound cards.
> >
>
> I wasn't getting any sound at all from the old sound card. Not much has
> changed here. I did remove all the old drivers in safe mode.
>
> > You could try (physically) removing the new card and (cold) booting
> > *several* times - checking, each time for oddments/remnants in Device
> > Manager, again to help flush things out. It might also be worth
searching
> > your system for all 'redundant' Creative and previous sound cards' files
> > (look also in the Windows\ini folder and sub-folders).
> >
>
> I'll try this move again. Thanks.
>
> > I would very reluctantly suggest a third-party registry cleaning
utility -
> > but these can cause far more harm than good if they are not used
> > cautiously!!
> >
>
> Any suggestions here?
>
>

[Doug]

> In the mean time, I'm still trying to get my head around a previous
> statement you made:-
>
> > OK I found the offending file. It's the System.ini file.
> > I unchecked it and used selective startup, and I had
> > sound on startup, including the WinME
> > "fanfare". I can play CD's, MP3's, everything.
>
> Not quite too sure *what* you unchecked (in what application/utility)
> and *how did you 'use' selective startup? - in msconfig or the DOS start
> menu?
>
> Mart
>

I used msconfig and checked selective startup, and then unchecked all the
options underneath selective startup one by one. When I unchecked system.ini
and restarted the computer, I had sound.

[Mart]

OK, thanks for that reply - so therefore have you tried 'remming' out the
various lines (one at a time, if necessary) in system.ini to see if you can
determine the offender?

Rapidly running out of ideas <g>

Mart


"Doug" > wrote in message
...
> > In the mean time, I'm still trying to get my head around a previous
> > statement you made:-
> >
> > > OK I found the offending file. It's the System.ini file.
> > > I unchecked it and used selective startup, and I had
> > > sound on startup, including the WinME
> > > "fanfare". I can play CD's, MP3's, everything.
> >
> > Not quite too sure *what* you unchecked (in what application/utility)
> > and *how did you 'use' selective startup? - in msconfig or the DOS start
> > menu?
> >
> > Mart
> >
>
> I used msconfig and checked selective startup, and then unchecked all the
> options underneath selective startup one by one. When I unchecked
system.ini
> and restarted the computer, I had sound.
>
>

[Doug]

I haven't done one line at a time yet.


"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> OK, thanks for that reply - so therefore have you tried 'remming' out the
> various lines (one at a time, if necessary) in system.ini to see if you
can
> determine the offender?
>
> Rapidly running out of ideas <g>
>
> Mart
>