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Steve Baron - KB3MM
April 22nd 04, 08:26 PM
Maybe that makes a definite statement about NAV (actually all Symantec
products).

"Ken" > wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply Mike. I'll give these items a try.

I should have mentioned that the problem SEEMS to be
associated with Norton Antivirus 2004. I've
been "fighting" NAV problems for almost 2 months.

Ken
>-----Original Message-----
>There have been multiple posts where users are
experiencing this problem in
>the last couple of days and wtoolsa.exe is malware and
appears to be a new
>member of the IBIS Toolbar family
>(http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/i/ibis_toolbar.asp)
or possibly a variant
>of HuntBar
(http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/HuntBar.html). It
certainly
>doesn't form a part of the Win Me operating system.
>
>Boot to Safe Mode, open MSConfig (Start, Run, enter
MSConfig in the box and
>click OK), open the Startup tab and uncheck the entry
being used to launch
>wstoolsa.exe, possibly labelled something like WinTools.
>
>Empty your Temporary Internet Files - Control Panels |
Internet Options |
>General | Delete Files and ensure that you check the
box "Delete all offline
>content", then click OK and Apply.
>
>Now check Add/Remove Programs and uninstall any entry for
WinTools.
>
>You should also delete the entire Wintools folder which
is probably
>located as a sub-folder in C:\Program Files\Common Files
or alternatively in
>C:\Windows\System.
>
>Now reboot back into Normal Mode and check your system
for commercial
>parasites.
>
>This might be a good time to download yourself a copy
>of the free Ad-Aware 6.0 from Lavasoft
>(http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/) and also
SpyBot
>(http://www.safer-networking.org/) and scan your system
for and remove all
>unwanted parasites, adware and spyware that might be
hiding on your PC.
>
>I would suggest you download and run merijn's CWShredder
which targets the
>CoolWebSearch parasite. CWShredder can be downloaded from
>(http://www.zerosrealm.com/downloads/CWShredder.zip or
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/cwshredder.zip).
Details of the many
>forms of the CoolWebSearch hijacker can be found at
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html and
also
>http://www.pestpatrol.com/pestinfo/c/cws.asp.
>
>If you continue to have problems download a copy of
HijackThis from
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html).
Create a folder called
>hijackthis on C: and copy the file you downloaded to that
folder. Close as
>many applications as you can including all instances of
Internet Explorer and
>then run hijackthis.exe and post back the log, provided
that it isn't too
>long, to this thread, otherwise to the HijackThis Forum at
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/forums/ and hopefully this
will enable someone to
>identify the cause of your problem.
>--?
>Mike Maltby MS-MVP

>
>
>Ken > wrote:
>
>> I have a Wtoolsa error -- "Wtoolsa has caused an error
in
>> KERNEL32.DLL Wtoolsa will now close"
>>
>> Error reappears after restarting computer -- several
times
>>
>> Running Scandisk did not help.
>>
>> Ken
>
>
>.
>

Ken
May 22nd 04, 04:31 PM
I have a Wtoolsa error -- "Wtoolsa has caused an error in
KERNEL32.DLL Wtoolsa will now close"

Error reappears after restarting computer -- several times

Running Scandisk did not help.

Ken

Mike M
May 22nd 04, 05:16 PM
There have been multiple posts where users are experiencing this problem in
the last couple of days and wtoolsa.exe is malware and appears to be a new
member of the IBIS Toolbar family
(http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/i/ibis_toolbar.asp) or possibly a variant
of HuntBar (http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/HuntBar.html). It certainly
doesn't form a part of the Win Me operating system.

Boot to Safe Mode, open MSConfig (Start, Run, enter MSConfig in the box and
click OK), open the Startup tab and uncheck the entry being used to launch
wstoolsa.exe, possibly labelled something like WinTools.

Empty your Temporary Internet Files - Control Panels | Internet Options |
General | Delete Files and ensure that you check the box "Delete all offline
content", then click OK and Apply.

Now check Add/Remove Programs and uninstall any entry for WinTools.

You should also delete the entire Wintools folder which is probably
located as a sub-folder in C:\Program Files\Common Files or alternatively in
C:\Windows\System.

Now reboot back into Normal Mode and check your system for commercial
parasites.

This might be a good time to download yourself a copy
of the free Ad-Aware 6.0 from Lavasoft
(http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/) and also SpyBot
(http://www.safer-networking.org/) and scan your system for and remove all
unwanted parasites, adware and spyware that might be hiding on your PC.

I would suggest you download and run merijn's CWShredder which targets the
CoolWebSearch parasite. CWShredder can be downloaded from
(http://www.zerosrealm.com/downloads/CWShredder.zip or
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/cwshredder.zip). Details of the many
forms of the CoolWebSearch hijacker can be found at
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html and also
http://www.pestpatrol.com/pestinfo/c/cws.asp.

If you continue to have problems download a copy of HijackThis from
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html). Create a folder called
hijackthis on C: and copy the file you downloaded to that folder. Close as
many applications as you can including all instances of Internet Explorer and
then run hijackthis.exe and post back the log, provided that it isn't too
long, to this thread, otherwise to the HijackThis Forum at
http://www.spywareinfo.com/forums/ and hopefully this will enable someone to
identify the cause of your problem.
--?
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Ken > wrote:

> I have a Wtoolsa error -- "Wtoolsa has caused an error in
> KERNEL32.DLL Wtoolsa will now close"
>
> Error reappears after restarting computer -- several times
>
> Running Scandisk did not help.
>
> Ken

Ken
May 22nd 04, 05:27 PM
Thanks for your reply Mike. I'll give these items a try.

I should have mentioned that the problem SEEMS to be=20
associated with Norton Antivirus 2004. I've=20
been "fighting" NAV problems for almost 2 months.

Ken
>-----Original Message-----
>There have been multiple posts where users are=20
experiencing this problem in
>the last couple of days and wtoolsa.exe is malware and=20
appears to be a new
>member of the IBIS Toolbar family
>(http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/i/ibis_toolbar.asp)=20
or possibly a variant
>of HuntBar=20
(http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/HuntBar.html). It=20
certainly
>doesn't form a part of the Win Me operating system.
>
>Boot to Safe Mode, open MSConfig (Start, Run, enter=20
MSConfig in the box and
>click OK), open the Startup tab and uncheck the entry=20
being used to launch
>wstoolsa.exe, possibly labelled something like WinTools.
>
>Empty your Temporary Internet Files - Control Panels |=20
Internet Options |
>General | Delete Files and ensure that you check the=20
box "Delete all offline
>content", then click OK and Apply.
>
>Now check Add/Remove Programs and uninstall any entry for=20
WinTools.
>
>You should also delete the entire Wintools folder which=20
is probably
>located as a sub-folder in C:\Program Files\Common Files=20
or alternatively in
>C:\Windows\System.
>
>Now reboot back into Normal Mode and check your system=20
for commercial
>parasites.
>
>This might be a good time to download yourself a copy
>of the free Ad-Aware 6.0 from Lavasoft
>(http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/) and also=20
SpyBot
>(http://www.safer-networking.org/) and scan your system=20
for and remove all
>unwanted parasites, adware and spyware that might be=20
hiding on your PC.
>
>I would suggest you download and run merijn's CWShredder=20
which targets the
>CoolWebSearch parasite. CWShredder can be downloaded from
>(http://www.zerosrealm.com/downloads/CWShredder.zip or
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/cwshredder.zip).=20
Details of the many
>forms of the CoolWebSearch hijacker can be found at
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html and=20
also
>http://www.pestpatrol.com/pestinfo/c/cws.asp.
>
>If you continue to have problems download a copy of=20
HijackThis from
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html). =20
Create a folder called
>hijackthis on C: and copy the file you downloaded to that=20
folder. Close as
>many applications as you can including all instances of=20
Internet Explorer and
>then run hijackthis.exe and post back the log, provided=20
that it isn't too
>long, to this thread, otherwise to the HijackThis Forum at
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/forums/ and hopefully this=20
will enable someone to
>identify the cause of your problem.
>--=81
>Mike Maltby MS-MVP

>
>
>Ken > wrote:
>
>> I have a Wtoolsa error -- "Wtoolsa has caused an error=20
in
>> KERNEL32.DLL Wtoolsa will now close"
>>
>> Error reappears after restarting computer -- several=20
times
>>
>> Running Scandisk did not help.
>>
>> Ken
>
>
>.
>

Mike M
May 22nd 04, 05:43 PM
My opinion of NAV2004 and in fact most Symantec products is well known in
these newsgroups but feeling charitable as I do today I don't think that you
can blame NAV2004 for your problems with wtoolsa.exe.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Ken > wrote:

> Thanks for your reply Mike. I'll give these items a try.
>
> I should have mentioned that the problem SEEMS to be
> associated with Norton Antivirus 2004. I've
> been "fighting" NAV problems for almost 2 months.

Ken
May 22nd 04, 07:18 PM
Hi Mike

I cannot get ride of one program "WinTools for IE" using=20
Add/Remove.

On <Remove> -- it needs an Internet connection. With a=20
connection it gives me boxes to uncheck - which I do --=20
But the program is still there.

Also -- I've deleted all WinTools Folders and Files -=20
except WinTools.0 -- Won't allow me to delete -- "Possibly=20
in use by Windows"

Suggestions????

Ken
>-----Original Message-----
>There have been multiple posts where users are=20
experiencing this problem in
>the last couple of days and wtoolsa.exe is malware and=20
appears to be a new
>member of the IBIS Toolbar family
>(http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/i/ibis_toolbar.asp)=20
or possibly a variant
>of HuntBar=20
(http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/HuntBar.html). It=20
certainly
>doesn't form a part of the Win Me operating system.
>
>Boot to Safe Mode, open MSConfig (Start, Run, enter=20
MSConfig in the box and
>click OK), open the Startup tab and uncheck the entry=20
being used to launch
>wstoolsa.exe, possibly labelled something like WinTools.
>
>Empty your Temporary Internet Files - Control Panels |=20
Internet Options |
>General | Delete Files and ensure that you check the=20
box "Delete all offline
>content", then click OK and Apply.
>
>Now check Add/Remove Programs and uninstall any entry for=20
WinTools.
>
>You should also delete the entire Wintools folder which=20
is probably
>located as a sub-folder in C:\Program Files\Common Files=20
or alternatively in
>C:\Windows\System.
>
>Now reboot back into Normal Mode and check your system=20
for commercial
>parasites.
>
>This might be a good time to download yourself a copy
>of the free Ad-Aware 6.0 from Lavasoft
>(http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/) and also=20
SpyBot
>(http://www.safer-networking.org/) and scan your system=20
for and remove all
>unwanted parasites, adware and spyware that might be=20
hiding on your PC.
>
>I would suggest you download and run merijn's CWShredder=20
which targets the
>CoolWebSearch parasite. CWShredder can be downloaded from
>(http://www.zerosrealm.com/downloads/CWShredder.zip or
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/cwshredder.zip).=20
Details of the many
>forms of the CoolWebSearch hijacker can be found at
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html and=20
also
>http://www.pestpatrol.com/pestinfo/c/cws.asp.
>
>If you continue to have problems download a copy of=20
HijackThis from
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html). =20
Create a folder called
>hijackthis on C: and copy the file you downloaded to that=20
folder. Close as
>many applications as you can including all instances of=20
Internet Explorer and
>then run hijackthis.exe and post back the log, provided=20
that it isn't too
>long, to this thread, otherwise to the HijackThis Forum at
>http://www.spywareinfo.com/forums/ and hopefully this=20
will enable someone to
>identify the cause of your problem.
>--=81
>Mike Maltby MS-MVP

>
>
>Ken > wrote:
>
>> I have a Wtoolsa error -- "Wtoolsa has caused an error=20
in
>> KERNEL32.DLL Wtoolsa will now close"
>>
>> Error reappears after restarting computer -- several=20
times
>>
>> Running Scandisk did not help.
>>
>> Ken
>
>
>.
>

Mike M
May 22nd 04, 07:46 PM
Boot to Safe Mode and try and delete the folders from there. Have you used
MSConfig to remove all/any entries referring to wtoolsa.exe, wtoolsb.exe,
wsup.exe and tb_setup.exe.

Have you downloaded and run HiJackThis? If not do so. Close all windows, run
HiJackThis and let it fix any entries similar to the following:
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WinTools] C:\Program Files\Common
files\WinTools\WToolsA.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [WinTools] C:\Program Files\Common
files\WinTools\WToolsA.exe

O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} (Fun Web Products Installer
Start) - http://imgfarm.com/images/nocache/funwe....0.0.5.cab

Then browse to and delete the contents of your C:\Windows\Temp folder and also
clear you Temporary Internet Files (Internet Options | General | Delete Files
and ensure that you check the box "Delete all offline content", then click OK
and Apply.

Run Adaware again.

Boot to Normal Mode and run HijackThis again to check that none of the wtoolsa
stuff is still running.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Ken > wrote:

> Hi Mike
>
> I cannot get ride of one program "WinTools for IE" using
> Add/Remove.
>
> On <Remove> -- it needs an Internet connection. With a
> connection it gives me boxes to uncheck - which I do --
> But the program is still there.
>
> Also -- I've deleted all WinTools Folders and Files -
> except WinTools.0 -- Won't allow me to delete -- "Possibly
> in use by Windows"
>
> Suggestions????

Ron Martell
May 22nd 04, 10:41 PM
"Ken" > wrote:

>Thanks for your reply Mike. I'll give these items a try.
>
>I should have mentioned that the problem SEEMS to be
>associated with Norton Antivirus 2004. I've
>been "fighting" NAV problems for almost 2 months.
>

NAV2004 *is* a virus, and doubly so when installed on a system running
Windows Me.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

Mart
May 23rd 04, 08:46 AM
Ouch!! <vbg>

Mart


"Ron Martell" > wrote in message
...
> "Ken" > wrote:
>
> >Thanks for your reply Mike. I'll give these items a try.
> >
> >I should have mentioned that the problem SEEMS to be
> >associated with Norton Antivirus 2004. I've
> >been "fighting" NAV problems for almost 2 months.
> >
>
> NAV2004 *is* a virus, and doubly so when installed on a system running
> Windows Me.
>
>
> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> --
> Microsoft MVP
> On-Line Help Computer Service
> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>
> "The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

Noel Paton
May 23rd 04, 09:02 AM
Why not say what you *really* think about NAV, Ron? :)
( and I agree wholeheartedly, BTW!)

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
"Ron Martell" > wrote in message
...
>
> NAV2004 *is* a virus, and doubly so when installed on a system running
> Windows Me.
>
>
> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> --
> Microsoft MVP
> On-Line Help Computer Service
> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>
> "The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

May 23rd 04, 02:03 PM
>-----Original Message-----
>I have a Wtoolsa error -- "Wtoolsa has caused an error in
>KERNEL32.DLL Wtoolsa will now close"
>
>Error reappears after restarting computer -- several times
>
>Running Scandisk did not help.
>
>Ken
>.
>
I have the same thing. Have you found an answer on how to
fix this? Any help would be appreciated.
Trina

Mike M
May 23rd 04, 02:30 PM
Have you read any of the many replies that have been posted?

wtoolsa.exe is malware and appears to be a new member of the IBIS Toolbar
family
(http://www.pestpatrol.com/PestInfo/i/ibis_toolbar.asp) or even a variant of
the CoolWebSearch parasite. It certainly doesn't form a part of the Win Me
operating system. One install mechanism it uses is if you choose to install
the toolbar from xxx.websearch.com

Boot to Safe Mode, open MSConfig (Start, Run, enter MSConfig in the box and
click OK), open the Startup tab and uncheck the entry being used to launch
wstoolsa.exe, possibly labelled something like WinTools as well as any entries
referring to wtoolsb.dll, wsup.exe and tb_setup.exe.

Browse to and delete the contents of your C:\Windows\Temp folder and also
clear you Temporary Internet Files (Internet Options | General | Delete Files
and ensure that you check the box "Delete all offline content", then click OK
and Apply.

Now check Add/Remove Programs and uninstall any entry for WinTools.

You should also delete the entire Wintools folder which is probably
located as a sub-folder in C:\Program Files\Common Files or alternatively in
C:\Windows\System. Check for and delete all copies of wtoolsa.exe,
wtoolsb.dll, wsup.exe and tb_setup.exe.

Now reboot back into Normal Mode and check your system for commercial
parasites.

This might be a good time to download yourself a copy
of the free Ad-Aware 6.0 from Lavasoft
(http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/) and also SpyBot
(http://www.safer-networking.org/) and scan your system for and remove all
unwanted parasites, adware and spyware that might be hiding on your PC.

I would suggest you download and run merijn's CWShredder which targets the
CoolWebSearch parasite. CWShredder can be downloaded from
(http://www.zerosrealm.com/downloads/CWShredder.zip or
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/cwshredder.zip). Details of the many
forms of the CoolWebSearch hijacker can be found at
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html and also
http://www.pestpatrol.com/pestinfo/c/cws.asp.

If you continue to have problems download a copy of HijackThis from
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html). Create a folder called
hijackthis on C: and copy the file you downloaded to that folder. Close as
many applications as you can including all instances of Internet Explorer and
then run hijackthis.exe and post back the log, provided that it isn't too
long, to this thread, otherwise to the HijackThis Forum at
http://www.spywareinfo.com/forums/ and hopefully this will enable someone to
identify the cause of your problem.

Possible entries in the HiJackThis log to remove include:
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WinTools] C:\Program Files\Common
files\WinTools\WToolsA.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [WinTools] C:\Program Files\Common
files\WinTools\WToolsA.exe

O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} (Fun Web Products Installer
Start) - http://imgfarm.com/images/nocache/funwe....0.0.5.cab
--?
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



> wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> I have a Wtoolsa error -- "Wtoolsa has caused an error in
>> KERNEL32.DLL Wtoolsa will now close"
>>
>> Error reappears after restarting computer -- several times
>>
>> Running Scandisk did not help.
>>
>> Ken
>> .
>>
> I have the same thing. Have you found an answer on how to
> fix this? Any help would be appreciated.
> Trina

Ken
May 23rd 04, 07:53 PM
So far I have Downloaded > Installed > and Run both
AdAware and SpyBot

The "Wtoolsa" Error is gone and my system is running
faster.

I'm trying to decide whether to reinstall NAV2004.

>-----Original Message-----
>Boot to Safe Mode and try and delete the folders from
there. Have you used
>MSConfig to remove all/any entries referring to
wtoolsa.exe, wtoolsb.exe,
>wsup.exe and tb_setup.exe.
>
>Have you downloaded and run HiJackThis? If not do so.
Close all windows, run
>HiJackThis and let it fix any entries similar to the
following:
>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WinTools] C:\Program Files\Common
>files\WinTools\WToolsA.exe
>O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [WinTools] C:\Program
Files\Common
>files\WinTools\WToolsA.exe
>
>O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} (Fun
Web Products Installer
>Start) -
http://imgfarm.com/images/nocache/funwe....0.0.5.cab
>
>Then browse to and delete the contents of your
C:\Windows\Temp folder and also
>clear you Temporary Internet Files (Internet Options |
General | Delete Files
>and ensure that you check the box "Delete all offline
content", then click OK
>and Apply.
>
>Run Adaware again.
>
>Boot to Normal Mode and run HijackThis again to check
that none of the wtoolsa
>stuff is still running.
>--
>Mike Maltby MS-MVP

>
>
>Ken > wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike
>>
>> I cannot get ride of one program "WinTools for IE" using
>> Add/Remove.
>>
>> On <Remove> -- it needs an Internet connection. With a
>> connection it gives me boxes to uncheck - which I do --
>> But the program is still there.
>>
>> Also -- I've deleted all WinTools Folders and Files -
>> except WinTools.0 -- Won't allow me to delete --
"Possibly
>> in use by Windows"
>>
>> Suggestions????
>
>
>.
>

Mike M
May 23rd 04, 08:16 PM
Ken,

Whilst you need to have an AV application installed installing the Norton
virus is probably the last such application I'd recommend any user install -
regardless of the operating system they are using and certainly never on a
system running Win Me.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Ken > wrote:

> So far I have Downloaded > Installed > and Run both
> AdAware and SpyBot
>
> The "Wtoolsa" Error is gone and my system is running
> faster.
>
> I'm trying to decide whether to reinstall NAV2004.

Ken
May 23rd 04, 08:30 PM
That's what I'm slowly figuring out :o(((

I used NAV2002 for 2 1/2 years and was happy with it.

Then I decided I should have a firewall - so I purchased
NIS2004. It worked GREAT for 2 weeks then quit. After 2
weeks of pure "HELL" - Symantek told me it wouldn't work
on my system and recommended getting NAV2004

After 3 more weeks of HELL (Probably more caused by the
Wtoolsa "bug") I still don't have an AV program.

I also Dont have a Firewall, of GOOD popup blocker.

SUGGESTIONS ???
>-----Original Message-----
>Ken,
>
>Whilst you need to have an AV application installed
installing the Norton
>virus is probably the last such application I'd recommend
any user install -
>regardless of the operating system they are using and
certainly never on a
>system running Win Me.
>--
>Mike Maltby MS-MVP

>
>
>Ken > wrote:
>
>> So far I have Downloaded > Installed > and Run both
>> AdAware and SpyBot
>>
>> The "Wtoolsa" Error is gone and my system is running
>> faster.
>>
>> I'm trying to decide whether to reinstall NAV2004.
>
>
>.
>

Mike M
May 23rd 04, 08:57 PM
Ken,

> SUGGESTIONS ???

Suitable products include AVG and eTrust (Computer Associates):
a) AVG (Free version) from GriSoft
(http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php)
b) eTrust from Computer Associates. This is an excellent low cost AV program
that I and many others contributing to these NGs are using. eTrust and
EZArmorLE are FREE to new users for one year until Jan 2005 (see
http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/index.cfm) Just the AV application can be
installed if preferred. EZArmorLE is a rebadged version of the free Zone
Alarm but does include a fifteen day trial of the paid for eTrust badged Zone
Alarm Pro.

Other possibilites include Trend Micro, Panda, Kaspersky (pricey but
excellent) and F-Prot.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Ken > wrote:

> That's what I'm slowly figuring out :o(((
>
> I used NAV2002 for 2 1/2 years and was happy with it.
>
> Then I decided I should have a firewall - so I purchased
> NIS2004. It worked GREAT for 2 weeks then quit. After 2
> weeks of pure "HELL" - Symantek told me it wouldn't work
> on my system and recommended getting NAV2004
>
> After 3 more weeks of HELL (Probably more caused by the
> Wtoolsa "bug") I still don't have an AV program.
>
> I also Dont have a Firewall, of GOOD popup blocker.
>
> SUGGESTIONS ???

Ken
May 23rd 04, 09:25 PM
Thanks for all your help Mike. It's MUCH appreciated

Regards
Ken
>-----Original Message-----
>Ken,
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>> SUGGESTIONS ???
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>Suitable products include AVG and eTrust (Computer
Associates):
>a) AVG (Free version) from GriSoft
>(http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php)
>b) eTrust from Computer Associates. This is an excellent
low cost AV program
>that I and many others contributing to these NGs are
using. eTrust and
>EZArmorLE are FREE to new users for one year until Jan
2005 (see
>http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/index.cfm) Just the
AV application can be
>installed if preferred. EZArmorLE is a rebadged version
of the free Zone
>Alarm but does include a fifteen day trial of the paid
for eTrust badged Zone
>Alarm Pro.
>
>Other possibilites include Trend Micro, Panda, Kaspersky
(pricey but
>excellent) and F-Prot.
>--
>Mike Maltby MS-MVP

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>Ken > wrote:
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>> That's what I'm slowly figuring out :o(((
>>
>> I used NAV2002 for 2 1/2 years and was happy with it.
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>> Then I decided I should have a firewall - so I purchased
>> NIS2004. It worked GREAT for 2 weeks then quit. After 2
>> weeks of pure "HELL" - Symantek told me it wouldn't work
>> on my system and recommended getting NAV2004
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>> After 3 more weeks of HELL (Probably more caused by the
>> Wtoolsa "bug") I still don't have an AV program.
>>
>> I also Dont have a Firewall, of GOOD popup blocker.
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>> SUGGESTIONS ???
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