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LarryD
June 3rd 04, 07:59 PM
Attempted to install Verizon DSL. After inserting disk,
following message came up: MICROSOFT DIAL-UP NETWORKING
NOT INSTALLED OR IS CORRUPTED. I reinstall DIAL-UP with
the assistance of VERZION support & SYSTEMAX(manufacturer)
support. No luck. SYSTEMAX stats to reformat (CRAZY). Is
there patch for this for WINDOWS ME? Please help....

Noel Paton
June 3rd 04, 08:13 PM
Uninstall Verizon software - you probably don't need it anyhow.
Run an Anti-Virus scan, and anti-spyware scan.
Uninstall DUN from the Add/Remove Programs |Windows Setup wizard - then
reboot and reinstall the same way.

Then try either phoning Verizon and persuading them to walk you through a
manual install of the dialup, or reinstall the software from disk.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

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"LarryD" > wrote in message
...
> Attempted to install Verizon DSL. After inserting disk,
> following message came up: MICROSOFT DIAL-UP NETWORKING
> NOT INSTALLED OR IS CORRUPTED. I reinstall DIAL-UP with
> the assistance of VERZION support & SYSTEMAX(manufacturer)
> support. No luck. SYSTEMAX stats to reformat (CRAZY). Is
> there patch for this for WINDOWS ME? Please help....

Scott M.
June 4th 04, 05:18 AM
You don't need dial up networking at all since you are not dialing up. You
will need your network interface card (NIC) recognized and its drivers
installed. You should check Device Manager to see if the NIC card is
installed correctly.

If it is, then you should either see, or be able to create a new Network
Connection (settings menu of main START menu). You will then need to make
sure that the TCP/IP protocol is installed for that connection.

The Verizon software is not necessary to get DSL working. In fact, it will
probably cause more headaches that is cures.


"LarryD" > wrote in message
...
> Attempted to install Verizon DSL. After inserting disk,
> following message came up: MICROSOFT DIAL-UP NETWORKING
> NOT INSTALLED OR IS CORRUPTED. I reinstall DIAL-UP with
> the assistance of VERZION support & SYSTEMAX(manufacturer)
> support. No luck. SYSTEMAX stats to reformat (CRAZY). Is
> there patch for this for WINDOWS ME? Please help....

Noel Paton
June 4th 04, 06:29 AM
Since it appears that his service is ADSL over a USB modem, there's a very
good chance that DUN is required - but not necessarily using Verizon's
software to create it.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
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"Scott M." > wrote in message
...
> You don't need dial up networking at all since you are not dialing up.
You
> will need your network interface card (NIC) recognized and its drivers
> installed. You should check Device Manager to see if the NIC card is
> installed correctly.
>
> If it is, then you should either see, or be able to create a new Network
> Connection (settings menu of main START menu). You will then need to make
> sure that the TCP/IP protocol is installed for that connection.
>
> The Verizon software is not necessary to get DSL working. In fact, it
will
> probably cause more headaches that is cures.
>
>
> "LarryD" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Attempted to install Verizon DSL. After inserting disk,
> > following message came up: MICROSOFT DIAL-UP NETWORKING
> > NOT INSTALLED OR IS CORRUPTED. I reinstall DIAL-UP with
> > the assistance of VERZION support & SYSTEMAX(manufacturer)
> > support. No luck. SYSTEMAX stats to reformat (CRAZY). Is
> > there patch for this for WINDOWS ME? Please help....
>
>

Mike M
June 4th 04, 11:52 AM
In the UK where ADSL is delivered using PPPOA rather than PPPOE it is quite
normal to connect to a modem using DUN.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Scott M. > wrote:

> You don't need dial up networking at all since you are not dialing up.
> You will need your network interface card (NIC) recognized and its drivers
> installed. You should check Device Manager to see if the NIC card is
> installed correctly.
>
> If it is, then you should either see, or be able to create a new Network
> Connection (settings menu of main START menu). You will then need to make
> sure that the TCP/IP protocol is installed for that connection.
>
> The Verizon software is not necessary to get DSL working. In fact, it
> will probably cause more headaches that is cures.

Scott M.
June 4th 04, 02:17 PM
Doesn't Verizon use PPoE?


"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> Since it appears that his service is ADSL over a USB modem, there's a very
> good chance that DUN is required - but not necessarily using Verizon's
> software to create it.
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> or
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
> "Scott M." > wrote in message
> ...
> > You don't need dial up networking at all since you are not dialing up.
> You
> > will need your network interface card (NIC) recognized and its drivers
> > installed. You should check Device Manager to see if the NIC card is
> > installed correctly.
> >
> > If it is, then you should either see, or be able to create a new Network
> > Connection (settings menu of main START menu). You will then need to
make
> > sure that the TCP/IP protocol is installed for that connection.
> >
> > The Verizon software is not necessary to get DSL working. In fact, it
> will
> > probably cause more headaches that is cures.
> >
> >
> > "LarryD" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Attempted to install Verizon DSL. After inserting disk,
> > > following message came up: MICROSOFT DIAL-UP NETWORKING
> > > NOT INSTALLED OR IS CORRUPTED. I reinstall DIAL-UP with
> > > the assistance of VERZION support & SYSTEMAX(manufacturer)
> > > support. No luck. SYSTEMAX stats to reformat (CRAZY). Is
> > > there patch for this for WINDOWS ME? Please help....
> >
> >
>
>

James Egan
June 4th 04, 10:04 PM
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 09:17:52 -0400, "Scott M." >
wrote:

>Doesn't Verizon use PPoE?

It doesn't matter whether it's pppoe or pppoa, it is still ppp which
means using dial up networking.


Jim.

Scott M.
June 6th 04, 04:16 PM
Uh, not true Jim. I have SBC DSL, which uses PPoE (that's Point-to-Point
over ETHERNET), and therefore I don't have DUN installed on any of my 6
machines that share the DSL line. All I need is a properly configured
Network Connection for the NIC card of each machine.

DUN is not installed at all.

"James Egan" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 09:17:52 -0400, "Scott M." >
> wrote:
>
> >Doesn't Verizon use PPoE?
>
> It doesn't matter whether it's pppoe or pppoa, it is still ppp which
> means using dial up networking.
>
>
> Jim.
>

James Egan
June 6th 04, 07:18 PM
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:16:49 -0400, "Scott M." >
wrote:

>Uh, not true Jim. I have SBC DSL, which uses PPoE (that's Point-to-Point
>over ETHERNET), and therefore I don't have DUN installed on any of my 6
>machines that share the DSL line. All I need is a properly configured
>Network Connection for the NIC card of each machine.
>
>DUN is not installed at all.

It may be that on your system (like mine here) a modem/router (or
whatever) is controlling the ppp connection (whether it's over
ethernet or atm is beside the point). But if winme is used to control
the ppp negotiation, which is what we're talking about in this thread,
then we're talking dial up networking.


Jim.

Scott M.
June 6th 04, 10:04 PM
Jim, if you have DSL, then you need a DSL router/modem regardless of what OS
you have on your pc. Because of this, you don't need ME to *control* the
connection, it is done by the router. One of my machines is Widows ME and
it does NOT have DUN installed on it, yet it *uses* my DSL connection.


"James Egan" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:16:49 -0400, "Scott M." >
> wrote:
>
> >Uh, not true Jim. I have SBC DSL, which uses PPoE (that's Point-to-Point
> >over ETHERNET), and therefore I don't have DUN installed on any of my 6
> >machines that share the DSL line. All I need is a properly configured
> >Network Connection for the NIC card of each machine.
> >
> >DUN is not installed at all.
>
> It may be that on your system (like mine here) a modem/router (or
> whatever) is controlling the ppp connection (whether it's over
> ethernet or atm is beside the point). But if winme is used to control
> the ppp negotiation, which is what we're talking about in this thread,
> then we're talking dial up networking.
>
>
> Jim.
>

Scott M.
June 6th 04, 10:15 PM
>But if winme is used to control the ppp negotiation, which is what we're
talking about in this thread,
> then we're talking dial up networking.

Also, what we are talking about in this thread is getting DSL to work on an
ME machine (with or without the Verizon software). The OP never said that
they wanted/needed/preferred/desired, etc. the connection to be managed by
ME. The OP was about getting DSL working on ME.

James Egan
June 6th 04, 11:57 PM
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 17:04:48 -0400, "Scott M." >
wrote:

>Jim, if you have DSL, then you need a DSL router/modem regardless of what OS
>you have on your pc. Because of this, you don't need ME to *control* the
>connection, it is done by the router. One of my machines is Widows ME and
>it does NOT have DUN installed on it, yet it *uses* my DSL connection.

You're missing the point.

You can connect using a router to negotiate ppp as we both appear to
do or, as is probably the case from the information gleaned in the OP,
there is no router only a USB modem. This will require the operating
system (winme) to look after the ppp negotiation. That's dialup
networking.

You are assuming the OP has a router and judging from his post he
doesn't have one.


Jim.