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B Kosanda
July 5th 04, 03:57 PM
I have a situation that is annoying me, but is not
critical. During startup, a background wallpaper is
displayed that is out of my control. When the computer
finishes booting up, the background wallpaper that I
selected is properly displayed. How can I control the
background wallpaper that is displayed during power-up?
It is really annoying me, because it is a picture of
Michael Jackson that my daughter put on the PC and now I
can't get rid of it.

thanks,
Bill Kosanda

Mart
July 5th 04, 04:36 PM
I am not sure precisely *when* you are actually seeing this 'Background
Wallpaper' AND I am assuming that it is replacing the WinMe Splash screen
and if so, this might point you in the right direction:-

The WinMe startup 'splash' screen is contained in the IO.SYS file. (A
hidden/system file, located in root of the C drive - C:\IO.SYS). You may
need to set Logo=0 in the MSDOS.sys file for the splash screens to be
suppressed.

If that (temporarily) suppresses it, the original IO.SYS file may have been
'highjacked'

However, there is also the WinMe splash itself, called SULOGO.SYS in
WIN_19.CAB which is not *normally* installed. If this file is installed, the
'splash' will be extracted from this file rather than the IO.SYS file. So
*maybe* SULOGO.SYS (if present) contains Michael Jackson.

(NB - The SULOGO.SYS file allows OEM's etc., to modify it and substitute
their own 'splash' instead of MS and if this (modified) file is installed,
the 'splash' will be extracted from this file rather than the IO.SYS file.)

The shut down 'splash' - the orange text on a black background 'It's now
safe to turn off your computer" message is contained in LOGOS.SYS in your
Windows folder. A fresh 'original' copy of the file can be found and
extracted from the NET4.CAB folder on your WinMe CD using the extract
utility in msconfig.exe.

You might also find the following articles helpful:-
"Contents of the Windows Msdos.sys File"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;118579

"Windows Millennium Edition and Real-Mode Functionality"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;272488

HTH

Mart



"B Kosanda" > wrote in message
...
> I have a situation that is annoying me, but is not
> critical. During startup, a background wallpaper is
> displayed that is out of my control. When the computer
> finishes booting up, the background wallpaper that I
> selected is properly displayed. How can I control the
> background wallpaper that is displayed during power-up?
> It is really annoying me, because it is a picture of
> Michael Jackson that my daughter put on the PC and now I
> can't get rid of it.
>
> thanks,
> Bill Kosanda

Bill K
July 7th 04, 01:40 AM
Thanks, I looked over this stuff and from what I can tell,
the Windows Millenium splash screen is appearing
correctly. The "Michael Jackson" splash screen comes up
after the Windows ME splash screen and remains on the
screen for the rest of the boot-up time, until it is
replaced with my selected background photo at the end of
boot up. I also noted that the properties I select for my
desired background photo affect the Michael Jackson
splash. These are the stretch and tile selections on the
Control Panel under Display/Background. I am a little
reluctant to start changing some of the entries in
MSDOS.SYS, as I think the Windows ME splash screen is
working properly, it is just getting replaced by
another "highjacker". I beleive I could turn off the
Windows ME splash, but it would not have an effect on the
MJ picture (unless you think this might really fix the
problem). Note that when MJ's picture is on the screen,
there are never any other icons or start bar, etc. Those
all come up when my selected background photo is displayed.

Bill Kosanda
>-----Original Message-----
>I am not sure precisely *when* you are actually seeing
this 'Background
>Wallpaper' AND I am assuming that it is replacing the
WinMe Splash screen
>and if so, this might point you in the right direction:-
>
>The WinMe startup 'splash' screen is contained in the
IO.SYS file. (A
>hidden/system file, located in root of the C drive -
C:\IO.SYS). You may
>need to set Logo=0 in the MSDOS.sys file for the splash
screens to be
>suppressed.
>
>If that (temporarily) suppresses it, the original IO.SYS
file may have been
>'highjacked'
>
>However, there is also the WinMe splash itself, called
SULOGO.SYS in
>WIN_19.CAB which is not *normally* installed. If this
file is installed, the
>'splash' will be extracted from this file rather than the
IO.SYS file. So
>*maybe* SULOGO.SYS (if present) contains Michael Jackson.
>
>(NB - The SULOGO.SYS file allows OEM's etc., to modify it
and substitute
>their own 'splash' instead of MS and if this (modified)
file is installed,
>the 'splash' will be extracted from this file rather than
the IO.SYS file.)
>
>The shut down 'splash' - the orange text on a black
background 'It's now
>safe to turn off your computer" message is contained in
LOGOS.SYS in your
>Windows folder. A fresh 'original' copy of the file can
be found and
>extracted from the NET4.CAB folder on your WinMe CD using
the extract
>utility in msconfig.exe.
>
>You might also find the following articles helpful:-
>"Contents of the Windows Msdos.sys File"
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;118579
>
>"Windows Millennium Edition and Real-Mode Functionality"
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;272488
>
>HTH
>
>Mart
>
>
>
>"B Kosanda" > wrote
in message
...
>> I have a situation that is annoying me, but is not
>> critical. During startup, a background wallpaper is
>> displayed that is out of my control. When the computer
>> finishes booting up, the background wallpaper that I
>> selected is properly displayed. How can I control the
>> background wallpaper that is displayed during power-up?
>> It is really annoying me, because it is a picture of
>> Michael Jackson that my daughter put on the PC and now I
>> can't get rid of it.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Bill Kosanda
>
>
>.
>

Mart
July 7th 04, 05:40 AM
FWIW - I have heard of this issue before but never did find out the cause -
or cure!!
I think that the 'splash' in that particular case was somewhat more
offensive than Jackson.

My only suggestions are that you get a decent graphics viewer (e.g.
Irfanview - freeware from http://www.irfanview.com ) and have look at all
your graphics files including screensavers, bitmaps, etc., to try to locate
the Jackson splash so that you can delete it.

Perhaps someone else who's had this particular of problem may be able to
jump in here with a solution.

Good luck

Mart


"Bill K" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks, I looked over this stuff and from what I can tell,
> the Windows Millenium splash screen is appearing
> correctly. The "Michael Jackson" splash screen comes up
> after the Windows ME splash screen and remains on the
> screen for the rest of the boot-up time, until it is
> replaced with my selected background photo at the end of
> boot up. I also noted that the properties I select for my
> desired background photo affect the Michael Jackson
> splash. These are the stretch and tile selections on the
> Control Panel under Display/Background. I am a little
> reluctant to start changing some of the entries in
> MSDOS.SYS, as I think the Windows ME splash screen is
> working properly, it is just getting replaced by
> another "highjacker". I beleive I could turn off the
> Windows ME splash, but it would not have an effect on the
> MJ picture (unless you think this might really fix the
> problem). Note that when MJ's picture is on the screen,
> there are never any other icons or start bar, etc. Those
> all come up when my selected background photo is displayed.
>
> Bill Kosanda
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I am not sure precisely *when* you are actually seeing
> this 'Background
> >Wallpaper' AND I am assuming that it is replacing the
> WinMe Splash screen
> >and if so, this might point you in the right direction:-
> >
> >The WinMe startup 'splash' screen is contained in the
> IO.SYS file. (A
> >hidden/system file, located in root of the C drive -
> C:\IO.SYS). You may
> >need to set Logo=0 in the MSDOS.sys file for the splash
> screens to be
> >suppressed.
> >
> >If that (temporarily) suppresses it, the original IO.SYS
> file may have been
> >'highjacked'
> >
> >However, there is also the WinMe splash itself, called
> SULOGO.SYS in
> >WIN_19.CAB which is not *normally* installed. If this
> file is installed, the
> >'splash' will be extracted from this file rather than the
> IO.SYS file. So
> >*maybe* SULOGO.SYS (if present) contains Michael Jackson.
> >
> >(NB - The SULOGO.SYS file allows OEM's etc., to modify it
> and substitute
> >their own 'splash' instead of MS and if this (modified)
> file is installed,
> >the 'splash' will be extracted from this file rather than
> the IO.SYS file.)
> >
> >The shut down 'splash' - the orange text on a black
> background 'It's now
> >safe to turn off your computer" message is contained in
> LOGOS.SYS in your
> >Windows folder. A fresh 'original' copy of the file can
> be found and
> >extracted from the NET4.CAB folder on your WinMe CD using
> the extract
> >utility in msconfig.exe.
> >
> >You might also find the following articles helpful:-
> >"Contents of the Windows Msdos.sys File"
> >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> us;118579
> >
> >"Windows Millennium Edition and Real-Mode Functionality"
> >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> us;272488
> >
> >HTH
> >
> >Mart
> >
> >
> >
> >"B Kosanda" > wrote
> in message
> ...
> >> I have a situation that is annoying me, but is not
> >> critical. During startup, a background wallpaper is
> >> displayed that is out of my control. When the computer
> >> finishes booting up, the background wallpaper that I
> >> selected is properly displayed. How can I control the
> >> background wallpaper that is displayed during power-up?
> >> It is really annoying me, because it is a picture of
> >> Michael Jackson that my daughter put on the PC and now I
> >> can't get rid of it.
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> Bill Kosanda
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Ikra
July 7th 04, 06:36 AM
Hi Bill!
I'd finish to read your mail with Mart, and maybe I can
help.
I'd the same problem you're referring.
I deal with it lyke this:
-Browse anyplace in the net where there is maybe nice
pictures or wallpapers you like (I went to NASA.com).
-After you choose one, right-click on it and from the pop-
up menu choose "set as wallpaper".
THIS WILL PUT THE CHOOSEN PICTURE IN YOUR DESKTOP.
-Now: a) If you lyke the picture, let it be and THIS IS
ALSO WHAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU BOOT UP AND AT THE END OF IT.
b) If you insist in a specific image you have\like,
reboot after "set as wallpaper" (of course after closing
your applications) and then choose by right-clicking on
the desktop...display... your wallpaper\image. THIS WILL
CHANGE THE WALLPAPER IN DESKTOP, BUT WHEN YOU BOOT AGAIN
YOU WILL SEE THE PICTURE YOU CHOOSE IN THE NET AND AT THE
END OF IT, YOUR CHOOSEN WALLPAPER.
I think it is related to "Active Desktop".
Note: In your case it was Michael Jackson, in mine it was
a "very Erotic picture" and my little son was asking me
about it !!! I didn't let it happen more than once !!!
Good luck!!!
Ikra

Noel Paton
July 7th 04, 06:50 AM
Just a thought - try booting to Safe Mode, ESCaping out of any login
prompt - is that the offending wallpaper/background?
if so, just change the wallpaper/background there and it should be gone on a
normal boot also

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp

"Mart" > wrote in message
...
> FWIW - I have heard of this issue before but never did find out the
cause -
> or cure!!
> I think that the 'splash' in that particular case was somewhat more
> offensive than Jackson.
>
> My only suggestions are that you get a decent graphics viewer (e.g.
> Irfanview - freeware from http://www.irfanview.com ) and have look at all
> your graphics files including screensavers, bitmaps, etc., to try to
locate
> the Jackson splash so that you can delete it.
>
> Perhaps someone else who's had this particular of problem may be able to
> jump in here with a solution.
>
> Good luck
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Bill K" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Thanks, I looked over this stuff and from what I can tell,
> > the Windows Millenium splash screen is appearing
> > correctly. The "Michael Jackson" splash screen comes up
> > after the Windows ME splash screen and remains on the
> > screen for the rest of the boot-up time, until it is
> > replaced with my selected background photo at the end of
> > boot up. I also noted that the properties I select for my
> > desired background photo affect the Michael Jackson
> > splash. These are the stretch and tile selections on the
> > Control Panel under Display/Background. I am a little
> > reluctant to start changing some of the entries in
> > MSDOS.SYS, as I think the Windows ME splash screen is
> > working properly, it is just getting replaced by
> > another "highjacker". I beleive I could turn off the
> > Windows ME splash, but it would not have an effect on the
> > MJ picture (unless you think this might really fix the
> > problem). Note that when MJ's picture is on the screen,
> > there are never any other icons or start bar, etc. Those
> > all come up when my selected background photo is displayed.
> >
> > Bill Kosanda
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >I am not sure precisely *when* you are actually seeing
> > this 'Background
> > >Wallpaper' AND I am assuming that it is replacing the
> > WinMe Splash screen
> > >and if so, this might point you in the right direction:-
> > >
> > >The WinMe startup 'splash' screen is contained in the
> > IO.SYS file. (A
> > >hidden/system file, located in root of the C drive -
> > C:\IO.SYS). You may
> > >need to set Logo=0 in the MSDOS.sys file for the splash
> > screens to be
> > >suppressed.
> > >
> > >If that (temporarily) suppresses it, the original IO.SYS
> > file may have been
> > >'highjacked'
> > >
> > >However, there is also the WinMe splash itself, called
> > SULOGO.SYS in
> > >WIN_19.CAB which is not *normally* installed. If this
> > file is installed, the
> > >'splash' will be extracted from this file rather than the
> > IO.SYS file. So
> > >*maybe* SULOGO.SYS (if present) contains Michael Jackson.
> > >
> > >(NB - The SULOGO.SYS file allows OEM's etc., to modify it
> > and substitute
> > >their own 'splash' instead of MS and if this (modified)
> > file is installed,
> > >the 'splash' will be extracted from this file rather than
> > the IO.SYS file.)
> > >
> > >The shut down 'splash' - the orange text on a black
> > background 'It's now
> > >safe to turn off your computer" message is contained in
> > LOGOS.SYS in your
> > >Windows folder. A fresh 'original' copy of the file can
> > be found and
> > >extracted from the NET4.CAB folder on your WinMe CD using
> > the extract
> > >utility in msconfig.exe.
> > >
> > >You might also find the following articles helpful:-
> > >"Contents of the Windows Msdos.sys File"
> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> > us;118579
> > >
> > >"Windows Millennium Edition and Real-Mode Functionality"
> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> > us;272488
> > >
> > >HTH
> > >
> > >Mart
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"B Kosanda" > wrote
> > in message
> > ...
> > >> I have a situation that is annoying me, but is not
> > >> critical. During startup, a background wallpaper is
> > >> displayed that is out of my control. When the computer
> > >> finishes booting up, the background wallpaper that I
> > >> selected is properly displayed. How can I control the
> > >> background wallpaper that is displayed during power-up?
> > >> It is really annoying me, because it is a picture of
> > >> Michael Jackson that my daughter put on the PC and now I
> > >> can't get rid of it.
> > >>
> > >> thanks,
> > >> Bill Kosanda
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>

July 8th 04, 03:50 AM
Thank you Ikra!
That fixed my problem. At least now I understand how to
control this phenomenon. I went on the internet with IE
and right clicked on a suitable image and chose to set the
image as wallpaper. It replaced the image of Michael
Jackson I was trying to get rid of during the PC boot up
process. I beleive you are correct, it has something to
do with the "Active Desktop" Apparently during the boot
up there is no Active Desktop and the wallpaper goes back
to what ever was selected through the previous Set As
Wallpaper command. Somehow executing the Set As Wallpaper
command is not the same as changing the background picture
through the control panel. Not sure I understand the
reason, but at least I have control of it now.

thanks,
Bill
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Bill!
>I'd finish to read your mail with Mart, and maybe I can
>help.
>I'd the same problem you're referring.
>I deal with it lyke this:
>-Browse anyplace in the net where there is maybe nice
>pictures or wallpapers you like (I went to NASA.com).
>-After you choose one, right-click on it and from the pop-
>up menu choose "set as wallpaper".
>THIS WILL PUT THE CHOOSEN PICTURE IN YOUR DESKTOP.
>-Now: a) If you lyke the picture, let it be and THIS IS
>ALSO WHAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU BOOT UP AND AT THE END OF
IT.
> b) If you insist in a specific image you have\like,
>reboot after "set as wallpaper" (of course after closing
>your applications) and then choose by right-clicking on
>the desktop...display... your wallpaper\image. THIS WILL
>CHANGE THE WALLPAPER IN DESKTOP, BUT WHEN YOU BOOT AGAIN
>YOU WILL SEE THE PICTURE YOU CHOOSE IN THE NET AND AT THE
>END OF IT, YOUR CHOOSEN WALLPAPER.
>I think it is related to "Active Desktop".
>Note: In your case it was Michael Jackson, in mine it was
>a "very Erotic picture" and my little son was asking me
>about it !!! I didn't let it happen more than once !!!
>Good luck!!!
>Ikra
>
>.
>

Mart
July 8th 04, 08:32 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys, duly noted for future reference.

Mart


> wrote in message
...
> Thank you Ikra!
> That fixed my problem. At least now I understand how to
> control this phenomenon. I went on the internet with IE
> and right clicked on a suitable image and chose to set the
> image as wallpaper. It replaced the image of Michael
> Jackson I was trying to get rid of during the PC boot up
> process. I beleive you are correct, it has something to
> do with the "Active Desktop" Apparently during the boot
> up there is no Active Desktop and the wallpaper goes back
> to what ever was selected through the previous Set As
> Wallpaper command. Somehow executing the Set As Wallpaper
> command is not the same as changing the background picture
> through the control panel. Not sure I understand the
> reason, but at least I have control of it now.
>
> thanks,
> Bill
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi Bill!
> >I'd finish to read your mail with Mart, and maybe I can
> >help.
> >I'd the same problem you're referring.
> >I deal with it lyke this:
> >-Browse anyplace in the net where there is maybe nice
> >pictures or wallpapers you like (I went to NASA.com).
> >-After you choose one, right-click on it and from the pop-
> >up menu choose "set as wallpaper".
> >THIS WILL PUT THE CHOOSEN PICTURE IN YOUR DESKTOP.
> >-Now: a) If you lyke the picture, let it be and THIS IS
> >ALSO WHAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU BOOT UP AND AT THE END OF
> IT.
> > b) If you insist in a specific image you have\like,
> >reboot after "set as wallpaper" (of course after closing
> >your applications) and then choose by right-clicking on
> >the desktop...display... your wallpaper\image. THIS WILL
> >CHANGE THE WALLPAPER IN DESKTOP, BUT WHEN YOU BOOT AGAIN
> >YOU WILL SEE THE PICTURE YOU CHOOSE IN THE NET AND AT THE
> >END OF IT, YOUR CHOOSEN WALLPAPER.
> >I think it is related to "Active Desktop".
> >Note: In your case it was Michael Jackson, in mine it was
> >a "very Erotic picture" and my little son was asking me
> >about it !!! I didn't let it happen more than once !!!
> >Good luck!!!
> >Ikra
> >
> >.
> >

Mart
July 8th 04, 08:36 AM
Good pointer, Noel, - I see Bill has now got it fixed. I never use Active
Desktop, so didn't think of that route. Duly noted for future <g>

Mart


"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> Just a thought - try booting to Safe Mode, ESCaping out of any login
> prompt - is that the offending wallpaper/background?
> if so, just change the wallpaper/background there and it should be gone on
a
> normal boot also
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> or
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
>
> "Mart" > wrote in message
> ...
> > FWIW - I have heard of this issue before but never did find out the
> cause -
> > or cure!!
> > I think that the 'splash' in that particular case was somewhat more
> > offensive than Jackson.
> >
> > My only suggestions are that you get a decent graphics viewer (e.g.
> > Irfanview - freeware from http://www.irfanview.com ) and have look at
all
> > your graphics files including screensavers, bitmaps, etc., to try to
> locate
> > the Jackson splash so that you can delete it.
> >
> > Perhaps someone else who's had this particular of problem may be able to
> > jump in here with a solution.
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> > "Bill K" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Thanks, I looked over this stuff and from what I can tell,
> > > the Windows Millenium splash screen is appearing
> > > correctly. The "Michael Jackson" splash screen comes up
> > > after the Windows ME splash screen and remains on the
> > > screen for the rest of the boot-up time, until it is
> > > replaced with my selected background photo at the end of
> > > boot up. I also noted that the properties I select for my
> > > desired background photo affect the Michael Jackson
> > > splash. These are the stretch and tile selections on the
> > > Control Panel under Display/Background. I am a little
> > > reluctant to start changing some of the entries in
> > > MSDOS.SYS, as I think the Windows ME splash screen is
> > > working properly, it is just getting replaced by
> > > another "highjacker". I beleive I could turn off the
> > > Windows ME splash, but it would not have an effect on the
> > > MJ picture (unless you think this might really fix the
> > > problem). Note that when MJ's picture is on the screen,
> > > there are never any other icons or start bar, etc. Those
> > > all come up when my selected background photo is displayed.
> > >
> > > Bill Kosanda
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >I am not sure precisely *when* you are actually seeing
> > > this 'Background
> > > >Wallpaper' AND I am assuming that it is replacing the
> > > WinMe Splash screen
> > > >and if so, this might point you in the right direction:-
> > > >
> > > >The WinMe startup 'splash' screen is contained in the
> > > IO.SYS file. (A
> > > >hidden/system file, located in root of the C drive -
> > > C:\IO.SYS). You may
> > > >need to set Logo=0 in the MSDOS.sys file for the splash
> > > screens to be
> > > >suppressed.
> > > >
> > > >If that (temporarily) suppresses it, the original IO.SYS
> > > file may have been
> > > >'highjacked'
> > > >
> > > >However, there is also the WinMe splash itself, called
> > > SULOGO.SYS in
> > > >WIN_19.CAB which is not *normally* installed. If this
> > > file is installed, the
> > > >'splash' will be extracted from this file rather than the
> > > IO.SYS file. So
> > > >*maybe* SULOGO.SYS (if present) contains Michael Jackson.
> > > >
> > > >(NB - The SULOGO.SYS file allows OEM's etc., to modify it
> > > and substitute
> > > >their own 'splash' instead of MS and if this (modified)
> > > file is installed,
> > > >the 'splash' will be extracted from this file rather than
> > > the IO.SYS file.)
> > > >
> > > >The shut down 'splash' - the orange text on a black
> > > background 'It's now
> > > >safe to turn off your computer" message is contained in
> > > LOGOS.SYS in your
> > > >Windows folder. A fresh 'original' copy of the file can
> > > be found and
> > > >extracted from the NET4.CAB folder on your WinMe CD using
> > > the extract
> > > >utility in msconfig.exe.
> > > >
> > > >You might also find the following articles helpful:-
> > > >"Contents of the Windows Msdos.sys File"
> > > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> > > us;118579
> > > >
> > > >"Windows Millennium Edition and Real-Mode Functionality"
> > > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> > > us;272488
> > > >
> > > >HTH
> > > >
> > > >Mart
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"B Kosanda" > wrote
> > > in message
> > > ...
> > > >> I have a situation that is annoying me, but is not
> > > >> critical. During startup, a background wallpaper is
> > > >> displayed that is out of my control. When the computer
> > > >> finishes booting up, the background wallpaper that I
> > > >> selected is properly displayed. How can I control the
> > > >> background wallpaper that is displayed during power-up?
> > > >> It is really annoying me, because it is a picture of
> > > >> Michael Jackson that my daughter put on the PC and now I
> > > >> can't get rid of it.
> > > >>
> > > >> thanks,
> > > >> Bill Kosanda
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> > > >
> > > >.
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