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Jeremy Stanford
June 8th 04, 09:06 PM
To Mike M and Noel P,

A new thread for new and (old) problems.
1) You have been giving me advice on restoring operation
of System Restore (in Folder View Repair thread). After
reinstalling Windows from CD and reinstalling all Windows
updates, SR still fails to work.

Other problems.
2) On startup I'm receiving a message that I'm using
selective startup. This occurs both when all items are
ticked in Control Panel>System>Performance>Files
System>Troubleshooting and when none are ticked. (BTW,
which is correct for normal startup?)

3) On startup, Zone Alarm spots 2 programs trying to
access the Internet. 'Windows Explorer.exe', which is
correctly located in Windows folder; and 'Recover.exe',
which is on C: drive. Note that this Windows Explorer.exe
is identified as version 5.5, whereas my Internet Explorer
is version 6.0. Is it possible Windows is trying to
resolve something after my reinstall from CD? I have
inadvertently allowed both progs to connect, with no
visible results, and they continue to try to connect on
every startup. Both of the connecting DNS nos. are
unavailable using the browser.
Your thoughts are welcome. (BTW, is this still the
appropriate MS newsgroup?)
--Jeremy Stanford

Noel Paton
June 8th 04, 09:19 PM
1) What EXACT error messages do you get when a) attempting to create a
manual restore point b) attempting to use an existing restore point?

2) Selective Startup has nothing to do with the settings you';re changing -
it's triggered by MSCONFIG settings. (default for the troubleshooting
settings is UNchecked)

3) There is no such program a 'Windows Explorer.exe' - if it truly exists on
your system, then you have a virus. Note that Explorer.exe on a fully
updated Win ME system is v5.50.4134.100 - Iexplore.exe is v6.0.2800.1106.
AFAIK, there is no such program in Windows as 'Recover.exe' - certainly
there isn't on my system.

You may have a virus/spyware hijack

download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure that A-V-disabling
viruses are not present on your PC
http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/stinger.exe

- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of all files.

Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove variants of the
CoolWebSearch hijacker.
http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html

Use CWShredder, the removal tool:
http://www.merijn.org/files/cwshredder.zip
http://www.merijn.org/files/CWShredder.exe
http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads/tools/CWShredder.exe
http://www.zerosrealm.com/downloads/CWShredder.zip

download AdAware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install, update, and run it to
remove spyware, adware,
and other such nasties from your system.




--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

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"Jeremy Stanford" > wrote in message
...
> To Mike M and Noel P,
>
> A new thread for new and (old) problems.
> 1) You have been giving me advice on restoring operation
> of System Restore (in Folder View Repair thread). After
> reinstalling Windows from CD and reinstalling all Windows
> updates, SR still fails to work.
>
> Other problems.
> 2) On startup I'm receiving a message that I'm using
> selective startup. This occurs both when all items are
> ticked in Control Panel>System>Performance>Files
> System>Troubleshooting and when none are ticked. (BTW,
> which is correct for normal startup?)
>
> 3) On startup, Zone Alarm spots 2 programs trying to
> access the Internet. 'Windows Explorer.exe', which is
> correctly located in Windows folder; and 'Recover.exe',
> which is on C: drive. Note that this Windows Explorer.exe
> is identified as version 5.5, whereas my Internet Explorer
> is version 6.0. Is it possible Windows is trying to
> resolve something after my reinstall from CD? I have
> inadvertently allowed both progs to connect, with no
> visible results, and they continue to try to connect on
> every startup. Both of the connecting DNS nos. are
> unavailable using the browser.
> Your thoughts are welcome. (BTW, is this still the
> appropriate MS newsgroup?)
> --Jeremy Stanford

Mike M
June 8th 04, 10:36 PM
Jeremy.

I can't help but say that I have never ever seen an error message from system
restore such as "SR still fails to work" so perhaps you can help us to help
you by saying what you were trying to do and what error message you see.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Jeremy Stanford > wrote:

> To Mike M and Noel P,
>
> A new thread for new and (old) problems.
> 1) You have been giving me advice on restoring operation
> of System Restore (in Folder View Repair thread). After
> reinstalling Windows from CD and reinstalling all Windows
> updates, SR still fails to work.
>
> Other problems.
> 2) On startup I'm receiving a message that I'm using
> selective startup. This occurs both when all items are
> ticked in Control Panel>System>Performance>Files
> System>Troubleshooting and when none are ticked. (BTW,
> which is correct for normal startup?)
>
> 3) On startup, Zone Alarm spots 2 programs trying to
> access the Internet. 'Windows Explorer.exe', which is
> correctly located in Windows folder; and 'Recover.exe',
> which is on C: drive. Note that this Windows Explorer.exe
> is identified as version 5.5, whereas my Internet Explorer
> is version 6.0. Is it possible Windows is trying to
> resolve something after my reinstall from CD? I have
> inadvertently allowed both progs to connect, with no
> visible results, and they continue to try to connect on
> every startup. Both of the connecting DNS nos. are
> unavailable using the browser.
> Your thoughts are welcome. (BTW, is this still the
> appropriate MS newsgroup?)
> --Jeremy Stanford

June 9th 04, 08:53 PM
>-----Original (Reply) Message (from Noel Patton)-----
>1) What EXACT error messages do you get when
>a) attempting to create a manual restore point
>b) attempting to use an existing restore point?

Would like to return to SR problems later, it requires
repeating some history.

>2) Selective Startup has nothing to do with the settings
>you';re changing - it's triggered by MSCONFIG settings.
>(default for the troubleshooting settings is UNchecked)

OK, my fault. MSCONFIG setting is now at normal startup.
However, an additional startup popup message (I forgot to
mention) is: "Error in c:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll Missing
entry NvStartup". The reference is to my display driver
NVidia, which I reinstalled from the original ME CD last
weekend. Yet the System Configuration Utility (via
msconfig) shows this startup entry:
"NvCplDaemon Registry(Machine Run)RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup".
When I uncheck this item and reboot, display operates
fine. So perhaps I should uncheck it permanently?

>3) There is no such program a 'Windows Explorer.exe' -
>if it truly exists on your system, then you have a virus.
>Note that Explorer.exe on a fully updated Win ME system
>is 5.50.4134.100 - Iexplore.exe is v6.0.2800.1106.
>AFAIK, there is no such program in Windows 'Recover.exe'
>- certainly there isn't on my system.
>You may have a virus/spyware hijack

The program trying to access the Internet is Explorer.exe,
(Zone Alarm identifies it as a Windows program). Also
accessing are Recover.exe and now also SSDP Services.
I have run all the virus/spyware programs you recommend
(as your msg. copied below) except I ran CWShredder in
Windows because I cannot get Safe Mode (another problem!)
Some things were spotted and presumably removed by
Stinger - Explorer.exe and Recover.exe were ignored.

But I may have the solution.
Please refer to this URL:
http://www.wown.com/kbase/WindowsTips/WindowsXP/RegistryTip
s/Network/DisableWindowsMessengerbroadcastsonUDPport1900.ht
ml

The problem as explained is with Windows Messenger, SSDP
Services, Universal Plug and Play, and Port 1900 (which is
the access port identified by my Zone Alarm). The solution
is:
Hive: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
Key: Software\Microsoft\DirectPlayNATHelp\DPNHUPnP
Name: UPnPMode
Type: REG_DWORD
Value: 2 disabled

The key above exists in my registry. It seems I need to
ADD a new DWord "UPnPMode" with value data modified to "2".
This solution is recommended for Win XP not for Win ME,
would you suggest it is appropriate for ME :)?

--Jeremy Stanford

(Noel's original reply contn'd)...
>download the Stinger from here and run it to make sure
>that A-V-disabling viruses are not present on your PC
>http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/stinger.exe
>
>- update your virus scanner and run a full system scan of
>all files.
>
>Reboot to Safe Mode and run CWShredder - to remove
>variants of the CoolWebSearch hijacker.
>http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html . . .
>
>. . . download AdAware from www.lavasoftusa.com, install,
update, and run . . .
>
>-- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

>"Jeremy Stanford" >
>wrote
in message ...

>> To Mike M and Noel P,
>>
>> A new thread for new and (old) problems.
>> 1) You have been giving me advice on restoring operation
>> of System Restore (in Folder View Repair thread). After
>> reinstalling Windows from CD and reinstalling all
>> Windows updates, SR still fails to work.
>>
>> Other problems.
>> 2) On startup I'm receiving a message that I'm using
>> selective startup. This occurs both when all items are
>> ticked in Control Panel>System>Performance>Files
>> System>Troubleshooting and when none are ticked. (BTW,
>> which is correct for normal startup?)
>>
>> 3) On startup, Zone Alarm spots 2 programs trying to
>> access the Internet. 'Windows Explorer.exe', which is
>> correctly located in Windows folder; and 'Recover.exe',
>> which is on C: drive. Note that this Windows
>> Explorer.exe is identified as version 5.5, whereas
>> my Internet Explorer
>> is version 6.0. Is it possible Windows is trying to
>> resolve something after my reinstall from CD? I have
>> inadvertently allowed both progs to connect, with no
>> visible results, and they continue to try to connect on
>> every startup. Both of the connecting DNS nos. are
>> unavailable using the browser.
>> Your thoughts are welcome. (BTW, is this still the
>> appropriate MS newsgroup?)
>> --Jeremy Stanford

Jeremy Stanford
June 9th 04, 09:25 PM
I'm not <<anonymous>> - I'm Jeremy Stanford.
The post above in this thread - June 9 2004 12:53PM -
should have led with my name, sorry.
--Jeremy Stanford

Noel Paton
June 9th 04, 09:45 PM
Jeremy
Your SSDP problems should disappear if you uninstall Universal Plug and Play
(UPNP) from Add/Remove Programs (please note that this is NOT related to
Windows PlugnPlay!!)

You are now bringing a whole new ballgame into the court - and I would
seriously suggest getting SR right, before anything else - otherwise you may
have no safety-net to fall back on.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

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"Jeremy Stanford" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not <<anonymous>> - I'm Jeremy Stanford.
> The post above in this thread - June 9 2004 12:53PM -
> should have led with my name, sorry.
> --Jeremy Stanford
>
>

Jeremy Stanford
June 10th 04, 12:05 AM
>-----Original Message-----
>Jeremy
>Your SSDP problems should disappear if you uninstall
Universal Plug and Play
>(UPNP) from Add/Remove Programs (please note that this is
NOT related to
>Windows PlugnPlay!!)

Neither UPNP nor SSDP is listed in Add/Remove Programs.
Only SSDP is listed in System Configuration Utility (SCU)
Startup, as c:\windows\system\ssdpsvr.exe De-selecting
this item does not stop explorer.exe trying to connect to
the Internet. C:\recover.exe is 'named' in SCU Startup
as 'mmsys'.

There is a 'display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv' listed in SCU
>System.ini >boot. And there are UPNP .dlls and .infs in
Windows/System folders.

I tried _installing_ SSDP in Add/Remove without success,
but this brought up an attempt by SSDP to connect to the
Internet.

Partial conclusion: SSDP is not yet fully installed - it
just wants to be, via the server (ssdpsvr.exe).

What is the best way to completely remove UPNP and
windows\system\ssdpsvr.exe, and anything associated?

Thanks.
P.S. will definitely do SysRestore next!
-Jeremy

>You are now bringing a whole new ballgame into the court -
and I would
>seriously suggest getting SR right, before anything else -
otherwise you may
>have no safety-net to fall back on.
>
>--
>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages to NG's
>or
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27pmvp.asp
>"Jeremy Stanford" >
wrote in message
...
>> I'm not <<anonymous>> - I'm Jeremy Stanford.
>> The post above in this thread - June 9 2004 12:53PM -
>> should have led with my name, sorry.
>> --Jeremy Stanford
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

Mike M
June 10th 04, 01:07 AM
You will find UPnP under Add/Remove Programs | Windows Setup | Communications
| Details. Uncheck, and then Apply and reboot.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Jeremy Stanford > wrote:

> Neither UPNP nor SSDP is listed in Add/Remove Programs.
> Only SSDP is listed in System Configuration Utility (SCU)
> Startup, as c:\windows\system\ssdpsvr.exe De-selecting
> this item does not stop explorer.exe trying to connect to
> the Internet. C:\recover.exe is 'named' in SCU Startup
> as 'mmsys'.
>
> There is a 'display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv' listed in SCU
>> System.ini >boot. And there are UPNP .dlls and .infs in Windows/System
>> folders.
>
> I tried _installing_ SSDP in Add/Remove without success,
> but this brought up an attempt by SSDP to connect to the
> Internet.
>
> Partial conclusion: SSDP is not yet fully installed - it
> just wants to be, via the server (ssdpsvr.exe).
>
> What is the best way to completely remove UPNP and
> windows\system\ssdpsvr.exe, and anything associated?
>
> Thanks.
> P.S. will definitely do SysRestore next!

Noel Paton
June 10th 04, 06:20 AM
(thanks, Mike)

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"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> You will find UPnP under Add/Remove Programs | Windows Setup |
Communications
> | Details. Uncheck, and then Apply and reboot.
> --
> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
>
>
>
> Jeremy Stanford > wrote:
>
> > Neither UPNP nor SSDP is listed in Add/Remove Programs.
> > Only SSDP is listed in System Configuration Utility (SCU)
> > Startup, as c:\windows\system\ssdpsvr.exe De-selecting
> > this item does not stop explorer.exe trying to connect to
> > the Internet. C:\recover.exe is 'named' in SCU Startup
> > as 'mmsys'.
> >
> > There is a 'display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv' listed in SCU
> >> System.ini >boot. And there are UPNP .dlls and .infs in Windows/System
> >> folders.
> >
> > I tried _installing_ SSDP in Add/Remove without success,
> > but this brought up an attempt by SSDP to connect to the
> > Internet.
> >
> > Partial conclusion: SSDP is not yet fully installed - it
> > just wants to be, via the server (ssdpsvr.exe).
> >
> > What is the best way to completely remove UPNP and
> > windows\system\ssdpsvr.exe, and anything associated?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > P.S. will definitely do SysRestore next!
>
>

Jeremy Stanford
June 12th 04, 02:22 AM
>-----Original Message-----
>You will find UPnP under Add/Remove Programs | Windows
Setup | Communications | Details. Uncheck, and then Apply
and reboot.
>--
>Mike Maltby MS-MVP

=====================

Thanks Mike. UPnP is now removed and unwanted dial-ups
stopped.

I'm now ready for a voyage of discovery... to find out if
my System Restore can be restored. Are you willing to play?

Some history of the problem and attempts to fix it...

This may be relevant (?) - Nine months ago I couldn't
enter Windows, no safe mode, only DOS available on
startup. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard drive by
copying it, he said. So my pc has a hidden partition,
containing my original personal files, that isn't listed
(or, apparently, identified) by Windows. Certainly, I have
listed something like half the memory available than
before, now 128MB RAM 46% free. SR worked before this
incident. But I don't know precisely when SR went duff -
it is only called up when it's needed.

The responses I get from SR are as follows:
Restore my computer to an earlier time >> currently no
restore points available.
Create a restore point >> System Restore is not able to
create a Restore Point. Please restart the computer and
run System Restore again.

Restarting always results in a repeat of the above.

Data appears to be being logged. C:\_RESTORE\LOGS contains
3 files: lastsfp.dat, vxdalt1.log and vxdsfp.log, the last
two of 1025 KBytes, all of today's date. ...\ARCHIVES
contains BKUPVXDLASTLOG files of 1025 KB up to today's
date. ...\TEMP contains many .CPY files up to today's date.
....\SFP folder is empty.

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE contains statemgr.exe and
stmgr.exe, amongst other files. Stmgr.exe is also on C:
drive (I copied it to one or other folder in a vain
gesture).

I have tried to fix SR previously... by removing H,S,R
attributes in DOS and renaming... but the automatic
replacement folder delivered the same problem, as above.

Any ideas for a solution are most welcome from all.
-Jeremy Stanford

Mike M
June 12th 04, 02:54 AM
So what happens if you repair the registry using the command
SCANREG /FIX
from a command prompt such as Start | Run.. On completion of the repair the
system will reboot. Can you now create a system restore checkpoints?

I does sound though as if you may have also trashed the restore archive and
its control files so I would also recommend that you clear the C:\RESTORE
folder from DOS as follows:
a) Boot to DOS using a floppy. Do NOT choose "Minimal Boot" from the menu
when booting from a floppy but rather choose "Start computer with (or without)
CD-ROM support" otherwise the ATTRIB command will not be available.
b) At the DOS A:\> prompt, type:

ATTRIB -H -S -R C:\_RESTORE
and then
REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST

c) Remove the floppy
d) Reboot your PC
e) Delete the folder C:\OLDREST
f) Check that an automatic system restore checkpoint was created.
g) Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder:
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore slider
to your preferred setting. A figure of 200MB is normally more than adequate
for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to be available
although increasing this to perhaps 400MB for a few days during periods of
large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



om> wrote:

> Thanks Mike. UPnP is now removed and unwanted dial-ups
> stopped.
>
> I'm now ready for a voyage of discovery... to find out if
> my System Restore can be restored. Are you willing to play?
>
> Some history of the problem and attempts to fix it...
>
> This may be relevant (?) - Nine months ago I couldn't
> enter Windows, no safe mode, only DOS available on
> startup. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard drive by
> copying it, he said. So my pc has a hidden partition,
> containing my original personal files, that isn't listed
> (or, apparently, identified) by Windows. Certainly, I have
> listed something like half the memory available than
> before, now 128MB RAM 46% free. SR worked before this
> incident. But I don't know precisely when SR went duff -
> it is only called up when it's needed.
>
> The responses I get from SR are as follows:
> Restore my computer to an earlier time >> currently no
> restore points available.
> Create a restore point >> System Restore is not able to
> create a Restore Point. Please restart the computer and
> run System Restore again.
>
> Restarting always results in a repeat of the above.
>
> Data appears to be being logged. C:\_RESTORE\LOGS contains
> 3 files: lastsfp.dat, vxdalt1.log and vxdsfp.log, the last
> two of 1025 KBytes, all of today's date. ...\ARCHIVES
> contains BKUPVXDLASTLOG files of 1025 KB up to today's
> date. ...\TEMP contains many .CPY files up to today's date.
> ...\SFP folder is empty.
>
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE contains statemgr.exe and
> stmgr.exe, amongst other files. Stmgr.exe is also on C:
> drive (I copied it to one or other folder in a vain
> gesture).
>
> I have tried to fix SR previously... by removing H,S,R
> attributes in DOS and renaming... but the automatic
> replacement folder delivered the same problem, as above.
>
> Any ideas for a solution are most welcome from all.
> -Jeremy Stanford

Jeremy Stanford
June 12th 04, 04:41 PM
>-----Original Message-----
>(thanks, Mike)
>--
>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)


Hi Noel,
I think its your turn on recommendations for restoring
System Restore :)

The problem is that no restore points can be created.

I have tried both Mike's recommendations previously
[thanks Mike], namely a) SCANREG /FIX and b) deleting the
existing c:\_RESTORE folder using DOS. For good measure
have now tried both again - but the problem is unchanged.

I found after replacing _RESTORE folder that disk space
for SR was at max., I reset it to 317MB, rebooted, but
still no restore points are being created.

Perhaps there is something available on my original WIN ME
CD to restore SR to working order??? I would like any
advice on this.

-Jeremy Stanford

N.B.Below is pasted a copy of yesterday's descriptive post
[Jeremy Stanford - June 11 6:22PM]

Some history of the problem and attempts to fix it...

This may be relevant (?) - Nine months ago I couldn't
enter Windows, no safe mode, only DOS available on
startup. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard drive by
copying it, he said. So my pc has a hidden partition,
containing my original personal files, that isn't listed
(or, apparently, identified) by Windows. Certainly, I have
listed something like half the memory available than
before, now 128MB RAM 46% free. SR worked before this
incident. But I don't know precisely when SR went duff -
it is only called up when it's needed.

The responses I get from SR are as follows:
Restore my computer to an earlier time >> currently no
restore points available.
Create a restore point >> System Restore is not able to
create a Restore Point. Please restart the computer and
run System Restore again.

Restarting always results in a repeat of the above.

Data appears to be being logged. C:\_RESTORE\LOGS contains
3 files: lastsfp.dat, vxdalt1.log and vxdsfp.log, the last
two of 1025 KBytes, all of today's date. ...\ARCHIVES
contains BKUPVXDLASTLOG files of 1025 KB up to today's
date. ...\TEMP contains many .CPY files up to today's date.
.....\SFP folder is empty.

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE contains statemgr.exe and
stmgr.exe, amongst other files. Stmgr.exe is also on C:
drive (I copied it to one or other folder in a vain
gesture).

I have tried to fix SR previously... by removing H,S,R
attributes in DOS and renaming... but the automatic
replacement folder delivered the same problem, as above.

Any ideas for a solution are most welcome from all.
-Jeremy Stanford

Noel Paton
June 12th 04, 04:58 PM
Try this - see if it forces a first restore point....
Start | Run enter

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Restore\rstrui.exe /makefirstrestorepoint

(Note - the above should all be one line starting at C: and ending at the
't', and is case-sensitive)


In Registry, check the following item -
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\VxDMon
i
n the RH pane

"StaticVxD"="*VxDMon"
"LogDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\LOGS"
"TempDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\TEMP"
"VxdDat"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.dat"
"VxdCfg"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.cfg"
"SystemFileProtection"="Y"
"SystemRestore"="Y"
"FirstRun"="N"

Is there anything else there?




--
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"Jeremy Stanford" > wrote in message
...
> >-----Original Message-----
> >(thanks, Mike)
> >--
> >Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
>
> Hi Noel,
> I think its your turn on recommendations for restoring
> System Restore :)
>
> The problem is that no restore points can be created.
>
> I have tried both Mike's recommendations previously
> [thanks Mike], namely a) SCANREG /FIX and b) deleting the
> existing c:\_RESTORE folder using DOS. For good measure
> have now tried both again - but the problem is unchanged.
>
> I found after replacing _RESTORE folder that disk space
> for SR was at max., I reset it to 317MB, rebooted, but
> still no restore points are being created.
>
> Perhaps there is something available on my original WIN ME
> CD to restore SR to working order??? I would like any
> advice on this.
>
> -Jeremy Stanford
>
> N.B.Below is pasted a copy of yesterday's descriptive post
> [Jeremy Stanford - June 11 6:22PM]
>
> Some history of the problem and attempts to fix it...
>
> This may be relevant (?) - Nine months ago I couldn't
> enter Windows, no safe mode, only DOS available on
> startup. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard drive by
> copying it, he said. So my pc has a hidden partition,
> containing my original personal files, that isn't listed
> (or, apparently, identified) by Windows. Certainly, I have
> listed something like half the memory available than
> before, now 128MB RAM 46% free. SR worked before this
> incident. But I don't know precisely when SR went duff -
> it is only called up when it's needed.
>
> The responses I get from SR are as follows:
> Restore my computer to an earlier time >> currently no
> restore points available.
> Create a restore point >> System Restore is not able to
> create a Restore Point. Please restart the computer and
> run System Restore again.
>
> Restarting always results in a repeat of the above.
>
> Data appears to be being logged. C:\_RESTORE\LOGS contains
> 3 files: lastsfp.dat, vxdalt1.log and vxdsfp.log, the last
> two of 1025 KBytes, all of today's date. ...\ARCHIVES
> contains BKUPVXDLASTLOG files of 1025 KB up to today's
> date. ...\TEMP contains many .CPY files up to today's date.
> ....\SFP folder is empty.
>
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE contains statemgr.exe and
> stmgr.exe, amongst other files. Stmgr.exe is also on C:
> drive (I copied it to one or other folder in a vain
> gesture).
>
> I have tried to fix SR previously... by removing H,S,R
> attributes in DOS and renaming... but the automatic
> replacement folder delivered the same problem, as above.
>
> Any ideas for a solution are most welcome from all.
> -Jeremy Stanford
>
>

Jeremy Stanford
June 12th 04, 08:58 PM
OK, done that. I copied the registry entry before, and
after, running the rstrui.exe action. Registry entries
before and after remained identical.

This was the registry entry :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\V
xDMon]
"StaticVxD"="*VxDMon"
"LogDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\LOGS"
"TempDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\TEMP"
"VxdDat"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.dat"
"VxdCfg"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.cfg"
"SystemFileProtection"="Y"
"SystemRestore"="Y"
"FirstRun"="N"
"OOBEInProgress"="Y"

Note the final entry, which was constant. My research
tells me, variously, that an OOBE is an
OutOfBodyExperience, an OutOfBoxExperience to enhance user
satisfaction, or a program associated with Win XP which
starts setup wizards on a new pc (which mine isn't, but it
has had a retread).

So I deleted the OOBE entry from the registry and, on
reboot, experienced an OOBodyE myself. SR window says: New
restore point 12 June 2004 19:35 new.

So PROBLEM SOLVED by understanding the registry. Many
thanks.

The only niggling problem I have remaining is a message on
startup about my NVidia display driver:
RUNDLL
Error in C:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll
Missing entry NVStartup

AFAIK display functions are working fine. Registry entries
at HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current version\Run,
include :
NvCplDaemon "RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup"

This same entry is correctly ticked in System
Configuration Utility | Startup.

So I don't know what RUNDLL thinks the problem is - or
whether I can just ignore it.
-Jeremy Stanford

>-----Original Message-----
>Try this - see if it forces a first restore point....
>Start | Run enter
>
>C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Restore\rstrui.exe /makefirstrestorepoi
nt
>
>(Note - the above should all be one line starting at C:
and ending at the
>'t', and is case-sensitive)
>
>
>In Registry, check the following item -
>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\Vx
DMon
>i
>n the RH pane
>
> "StaticVxD"="*VxDMon"
> "LogDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\LOGS"
> "TempDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\TEMP"
> "VxdDat"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.dat"
> "VxdCfg"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.cfg"
> "SystemFileProtection"="Y"
> "SystemRestore"="Y"
> "FirstRun"="N"
>
>Is there anything else there?
>
>
>
>
>--
>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages to NG's
>or
>http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar
27pmvp.asp
>
>"Jeremy Stanford" >
wrote in message
...[i]
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >(thanks, Mike)
>> >--
>> >Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>>
>>
>> Hi Noel,
>> I think its your turn on recommendations for restoring
>> System Restore :)
>>
>> The problem is that no restore points can be created.
>>
>> I have tried both Mike's recommendations previously
>> [thanks Mike], namely a) SCANREG /FIX and b) deleting
the
>> existing c:\_RESTORE folder using DOS. For good measure
>> have now tried both again - but the problem is
unchanged.
>>
>> I found after replacing _RESTORE folder that disk space
>> for SR was at max., I reset it to 317MB, rebooted, but
>> still no restore points are being created.
>>
>> Perhaps there is something available on my original WIN
ME
>> CD to restore SR to working order??? I would like any
>> advice on this.
>>
>> -Jeremy Stanford
>>
>> N.B.Below is pasted a copy of yesterday's descriptive
post
>> [Jeremy Stanford - June 11 6:22PM]
>>
>> Some history of the problem and attempts to fix it...
>>
>> This may be relevant (?) - Nine months ago I couldn't
>> enter Windows, no safe mode, only DOS available on
>> startup. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard drive by
>> copying it, he said. So my pc has a hidden partition,
>> containing my original personal files, that isn't listed
>> (or, apparently, identified) by Windows. Certainly, I
have
>> listed something like half the memory available than
>> before, now 128MB RAM 46% free. SR worked before this
>> incident. But I don't know precisely when SR went duff -
>> it is only called up when it's needed.
>>
>> The responses I get from SR are as follows:
>> Restore my computer to an earlier time >> currently no
>> restore points available.
>> Create a restore point >> System Restore is not able to
>> create a Restore Point. Please restart the computer and
>> run System Restore again.
>>
>> Restarting always results in a repeat of the above.
>>
>> Data appears to be being logged. C:\_RESTORE\LOGS
contains
>> 3 files: lastsfp.dat, vxdalt1.log and vxdsfp.log, the
last
>> two of 1025 KBytes, all of today's date. ...\ARCHIVES
>> contains BKUPVXDLASTLOG files of 1025 KB up to today's
>> date. ...\TEMP contains many .CPY files up to today's
date.
>> ....\SFP folder is empty.
>>
>> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE contains statemgr.exe and
>> stmgr.exe, amongst other files. Stmgr.exe is also on C:
>> drive (I copied it to one or other folder in a vain
>> gesture).
>>
>> I have tried to fix SR previously... by removing H,S,R
>> attributes in DOS and renaming... but the automatic
>> replacement folder delivered the same problem, as above.
>>
>> Any ideas for a solution are most welcome from all.
>> -Jeremy Stanford
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

Mike M
June 12th 04, 09:13 PM
The presence of the OOBEInProgress value suggests that your reinstall of the
operating system did not complete correctly as this should have been deleted
once the system install completed.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Jeremy Stanford > wrote:

> OK, done that. I copied the registry entry before, and
> after, running the rstrui.exe action. Registry entries
> before and after remained identical. [I tried SR again,
> but still no restore points, or after restart.]
>
> This was the registry entry :
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\V
> xDMon]
> "StaticVxD"="*VxDMon"
> "LogDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\LOGS"
> "TempDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\TEMP"
> "VxdDat"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.dat"
> "VxdCfg"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.cfg"
> "SystemFileProtection"="Y"
> "SystemRestore"="Y"
> "FirstRun"="N"
> "OOBEInProgress"="Y"
>
> Note the final entry, which was constant. My research
> tells me, variously, that an OOBE is an
> OutOfBodyExperience, an OutOfBoxExperience to enhance user
> satisfaction, or a program associated with Win XP which
> starts setup wizards on a new pc (which mine isn't, but it
> has had a retread).
>
> So I deleted the OOBE entry from the registry and, on
> reboot, experienced an OOBodyE myself. SR window says: New
> restore point 12 June 2004 19:35 new.
>
> So PROBLEM SOLVED by understanding the registry. Many
> thanks.
>
> The only niggling problem I have remaining is a message on
> startup about my NVidia display driver:
> RUNDLL
> Error in C:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll
> Missing entry NVStartup
>
> AFAIK display functions are working fine. Registry entries
> at HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current version\Run,
> include :
> NvCplDaemon "RUNDLL32.EXE
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup"
>
> This same entry is correctly ticked in System
> Configuration Utility | Startup.
>
> So I don't know what RUNDLL thinks the problem is - or
> whether I can just ignore it.
> -Jeremy Stanford

Noel Paton
June 13th 04, 10:46 AM
Great - at least that's one problem out of the way!

As to your rundll problem, my first inclination is to go with the 'easy hit'
Reboot to Safe Mode
Open Device Manager
Remove ALL Display Adapters
Remove ALL Monitors
Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers -
hopefully curing your problem.



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp

"Jeremy Stanford" > wrote in message
...
> OK, done that. I copied the registry entry before, and
> after, running the rstrui.exe action. Registry entries
> before and after remained identical.
>
> This was the registry entry :
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\V
> xDMon]
> "StaticVxD"="*VxDMon"
> "LogDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\LOGS"
> "TempDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\TEMP"
> "VxdDat"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.dat"
> "VxdCfg"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.cfg"
> "SystemFileProtection"="Y"
> "SystemRestore"="Y"
> "FirstRun"="N"
> "OOBEInProgress"="Y"
>
> Note the final entry, which was constant. My research
> tells me, variously, that an OOBE is an
> OutOfBodyExperience, an OutOfBoxExperience to enhance user
> satisfaction, or a program associated with Win XP which
> starts setup wizards on a new pc (which mine isn't, but it
> has had a retread).
>
> So I deleted the OOBE entry from the registry and, on
> reboot, experienced an OOBodyE myself. SR window says: New
> restore point 12 June 2004 19:35 new.
>
> So PROBLEM SOLVED by understanding the registry. Many
> thanks.
>
> The only niggling problem I have remaining is a message on
> startup about my NVidia display driver:
> RUNDLL
> Error in C:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll
> Missing entry NVStartup
>
> AFAIK display functions are working fine. Registry entries
> at HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current version\Run,
> include :
> NvCplDaemon "RUNDLL32.EXE
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup"
>
> This same entry is correctly ticked in System
> Configuration Utility | Startup.
>
> So I don't know what RUNDLL thinks the problem is - or
> whether I can just ignore it.
> -Jeremy Stanford
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Try this - see if it forces a first restore point....
> >Start | Run enter
> >
> >C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Restore\rstrui.exe /makefirstrestorepoi
> nt
> >
> >(Note - the above should all be one line starting at C:
> and ending at the
> >'t', and is case-sensitive)
> >
> >
> >In Registry, check the following item -
> >
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\VxD\Vx
> DMon
> >i
> >n the RH pane
> >
> > "StaticVxD"="*VxDMon"
> > "LogDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\LOGS"
> > "TempDir"="c:\\_RESTORE\\TEMP"
> > "VxdDat"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.dat"
> > "VxdCfg"="C:\\_RESTORE\\VxDMon.cfg"
> > "SystemFileProtection"="Y"
> > "SystemRestore"="Y"
> > "FirstRun"="N"
> >
> >Is there anything else there?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> >
> >Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >
> >Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
> messages to NG's
> >or
> >http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar
> 27pmvp.asp
> >
> >"Jeremy Stanford" >
> wrote in message
> ...[i]
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >(thanks, Mike)
> >> >--
> >> >Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Noel,
> >> I think its your turn on recommendations for restoring
> >> System Restore :)
> >>
> >> The problem is that no restore points can be created.
> >>
> >> I have tried both Mike's recommendations previously
> >> [thanks Mike], namely a) SCANREG /FIX and b) deleting
> the
> >> existing c:\_RESTORE folder using DOS. For good measure
> >> have now tried both again - but the problem is
> unchanged.
> >>
> >> I found after replacing _RESTORE folder that disk space
> >> for SR was at max., I reset it to 317MB, rebooted, but
> >> still no restore points are being created.
> >>
> >> Perhaps there is something available on my original WIN
> ME
> >> CD to restore SR to working order??? I would like any
> >> advice on this.
> >>
> >> -Jeremy Stanford
> >>
> >> N.B.Below is pasted a copy of yesterday's descriptive
> post
> >> [Jeremy Stanford - June 11 6:22PM]
> >>
> >> Some history of the problem and attempts to fix it...
> >>
> >> This may be relevant (?) - Nine months ago I couldn't
> >> enter Windows, no safe mode, only DOS available on
> >> startup. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard drive by
> >> copying it, he said. So my pc has a hidden partition,
> >> containing my original personal files, that isn't listed
> >> (or, apparently, identified) by Windows. Certainly, I
> have
> >> listed something like half the memory available than
> >> before, now 128MB RAM 46% free. SR worked before this
> >> incident. But I don't know precisely when SR went duff -
> >> it is only called up when it's needed.
> >>
> >> The responses I get from SR are as follows:
> >> Restore my computer to an earlier time >> currently no
> >> restore points available.
> >> Create a restore point >> System Restore is not able to
> >> create a Restore Point. Please restart the computer and
> >> run System Restore again.
> >>
> >> Restarting always results in a repeat of the above.
> >>
> >> Data appears to be being logged. C:\_RESTORE\LOGS
> contains
> >> 3 files: lastsfp.dat, vxdalt1.log and vxdsfp.log, the
> last
> >> two of 1025 KBytes, all of today's date. ...\ARCHIVES
> >> contains BKUPVXDLASTLOG files of 1025 KB up to today's
> >> date. ...\TEMP contains many .CPY files up to today's
> date.
> >> ....\SFP folder is empty.
> >>
> >> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RESTORE contains statemgr.exe and
> >> stmgr.exe, amongst other files. Stmgr.exe is also on C:
> >> drive (I copied it to one or other folder in a vain
> >> gesture).
> >>
> >> I have tried to fix SR previously... by removing H,S,R
> >> attributes in DOS and renaming... but the automatic
> >> replacement folder delivered the same problem, as above.
> >>
> >> Any ideas for a solution are most welcome from all.
> >> -Jeremy Stanford
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Jeremy Stanford
June 13th 04, 02:56 PM
Done as suggested - deleting all Display Adapters and
Monitors. The reinstall took several restarts as Windows
progressively graded up.

Display Adapters now again lists the
NVIDIA RIVA TNT2Model64/Model64Pro, as before. I note it
is dated 20/9/2000.
But Monitors now lists just 1 item: Plug and Play Monitor.
Previously it listed 4 items:
Default Monitor
Dell D10225HE
Plug and Play Monitor
Plug and Play monitor

These 4 were perhaps _available_ for installation? But I'm
surprised I don't now have Default Monitor listed.

Display functions nevertheless seem OK. BUT ... the error
message on startup remains! :
RUNDLL
Error in C:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll
Missing entry NVStartup

During the reinstall in Safe Mode there was a message:
"RUNDLL Error loading c:\Windows\System\NvCpl.dll
A DLL initialization routine failed."

The final stage of reinstallation occurred in Normal not
Safe mode, but with settings at 640x480x16clr.

Not sure what I need to do next ...
Any thoughts please?
-Jeremy Stanford


>-----Original Message-----
>Great - at least that's one problem out of the way!
>
>As to your rundll problem, my first inclination is to go
with the 'easy hit'
>Reboot to Safe Mode
>Open Device Manager
>Remove ALL Display Adapters
>Remove ALL Monitors
>Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the
required drivers -
>hopefully curing your problem.
>
>
>
>--
>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
messages to NG's
>or
>http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar
27pmvp.asp

Noel Paton
June 13th 04, 04:24 PM
Default Monitor should only appear if your monitor is not plug and play.

Your drivers are well out of date - I suggest that you go to nVidia's site
and download more recent ones....
http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_56.64
should get you there.
Make sure to follow the installation instructions - they get very picky!<g>

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
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Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp

"Jeremy Stanford" > wrote in message
...
> Done as suggested - deleting all Display Adapters and
> Monitors. The reinstall took several restarts as Windows
> progressively graded up.
>
> Display Adapters now again lists the
> NVIDIA RIVA TNT2Model64/Model64Pro, as before. I note it
> is dated 20/9/2000.
> But Monitors now lists just 1 item: Plug and Play Monitor.
> Previously it listed 4 items:
> Default Monitor
> Dell D10225HE
> Plug and Play Monitor
> Plug and Play monitor
>
> These 4 were perhaps _available_ for installation? But I'm
> surprised I don't now have Default Monitor listed.
>
> Display functions nevertheless seem OK. BUT ... the error
> message on startup remains! :
> RUNDLL
> Error in C:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll
> Missing entry NVStartup
>
> During the reinstall in Safe Mode there was a message:
> "RUNDLL Error loading c:\Windows\System\NvCpl.dll
> A DLL initialization routine failed."
>
> The final stage of reinstallation occurred in Normal not
> Safe mode, but with settings at 640x480x16clr.
>
> Not sure what I need to do next ...
> Any thoughts please?
> -Jeremy Stanford
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Great - at least that's one problem out of the way!
> >
> >As to your rundll problem, my first inclination is to go
> with the 'easy hit'
> >Reboot to Safe Mode
> >Open Device Manager
> >Remove ALL Display Adapters
> >Remove ALL Monitors
> >Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the
> required drivers -
> >hopefully curing your problem.
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> >
> >Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >
> >Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post
> messages to NG's
> >or
> >http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar
> 27pmvp.asp
>

Jeremy Stanford
June 13th 04, 04:59 PM
>-----Original Message-----

.. . .Your drivers are well out of date - I suggest that
you go to nVidia's site
>and download more recent ones....
>-- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

The NvCpl.dll problem arose after I did just that ... I
updated the driver about two weeks ago, then I reverted to
the ME CD, now I've reinstalled ...

I'll update again cautiously!

-Jeremy Stanford


>"Jeremy Stanford" >
wrote in message
...
>> Done as suggested - deleting all Display Adapters and
>> Monitors. The reinstall took several restarts as Windows
>> progressively graded up.
>>
>> Display Adapters now again lists the
>> NVIDIA RIVA TNT2Model64/Model64Pro, as before. I note it
>> is dated 20/9/2000.
>> But Monitors now lists just 1 item: Plug and Play
Monitor.
>> Previously it listed 4 items:
>> Default Monitor
>> Dell D10225HE
>> Plug and Play Monitor
>> Plug and Play monitor
>>
>> These 4 were perhaps _available_ for installation? But
I'm
>> surprised I don't now have Default Monitor listed.
>>
>> Display functions nevertheless seem OK. BUT ... the
error
>> message on startup remains! :
>> RUNDLL
>> Error in C:\windows\system\NvCpl.dll
>> Missing entry NVStartup
>>
>> During the reinstall in Safe Mode there was a message:
>> "RUNDLL Error loading c:\Windows\System\NvCpl.dll
>> A DLL initialization routine failed."
>>
>> The final stage of reinstallation occurred in Normal not
>> Safe mode, but with settings at 640x480x16clr.
>>
>> Not sure what I need to do next ...
>> Any thoughts please?
>> -Jeremy Stanford

Jeremy Stanford
June 13th 04, 06:06 PM
Update to my last message [8:59AM]. Device Manager lists
NVidia, as I stated, with date of 20/9/2000 and a file
version of 4.12.01. But Update Driver responds that I'm
using the best driver.
Control Panel now has an individual selection for NVidia
(since my previous update). The NVidia Desktop Manager
panel display gives the file version as 56.64 (i.e. the
latest version).

Add/Remove programs lists 2 Nvidia items: NVIDIA Display
Driver and NVIDIA Windows 95/98/ME Display Drivers.

It seems I do have the latest 54.64 version installed. Is
it possible there is a conflict arising - causing the
Rundll problem - because the previous version was not
removed during my original update 2 weeks ago? (I am
prepared to reinstall 54.64 from the Web if necessary).

-Jeremy Stanford

>-----Original Message-----
>>-----Original Message-----
>
>.. . .Your drivers are well out of date - I suggest that
>you go to nVidia's site
>>and download more recent ones....
>>-- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
>The NvCpl.dll problem arose after I did just that ... I
>updated the driver about two weeks ago, then I reverted
to
>the ME CD, now I've reinstalled ...
>
>I'll update again cautiously!
>
>-Jeremy Stanford

Noel Paton
June 13th 04, 06:16 PM
From nVidia's site...
"
a.. Do not run virus protection software in the background while installing
the drivers. This prevents the driver from configuring itself properly.
a.. Before installing new drivers make sure you uninstall all NVIDIA display
drivers from the Windows Control Panel. Browse to the Start Menu > Windows
Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs and search for "NVIDIA Windows Display
Drivers" or "NVIDIA Display Drivers" and select remove. "


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

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"Jeremy Stanford" > wrote in message
...
> Update to my last message [8:59AM]. Device Manager lists
> NVidia, as I stated, with date of 20/9/2000 and a file
> version of 4.12.01. But Update Driver responds that I'm
> using the best driver.
> Control Panel now has an individual selection for NVidia
> (since my previous update). The NVidia Desktop Manager
> panel display gives the file version as 56.64 (i.e. the
> latest version).
>
> Add/Remove programs lists 2 Nvidia items: NVIDIA Display
> Driver and NVIDIA Windows 95/98/ME Display Drivers.
>
> It seems I do have the latest 54.64 version installed. Is
> it possible there is a conflict arising - causing the
> Rundll problem - because the previous version was not
> removed during my original update 2 weeks ago? (I am
> prepared to reinstall 54.64 from the Web if necessary).
>
> -Jeremy Stanford
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >
> >.. . .Your drivers are well out of date - I suggest that
> >you go to nVidia's site
> >>and download more recent ones....
> >>-- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> >
> >The NvCpl.dll problem arose after I did just that ... I
> >updated the driver about two weeks ago, then I reverted
> to
> >the ME CD, now I've reinstalled ...
> >
> >I'll update again cautiously!
> >
> >-Jeremy Stanford
>

Jeremy Stanford
June 14th 04, 01:21 AM
NVidia reinstalled and everything appears to be stable -
it's almost unique!

Thank you Noel for all your assistance and guidance [and
Mike Maltby too].

-Jeremy Stanford

Noel Paton
June 14th 04, 06:03 AM
Great news!
Well done.

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"Jeremy Stanford" > wrote in message
...
> NVidia reinstalled and everything appears to be stable -
> it's almost unique!
>
> Thank you Noel for all your assistance and guidance [and
> Mike Maltby too].
>
> -Jeremy Stanford
>
>