Folder View repair - no joy

[Jeremy Stanford]

>Mike Maltby wrote (re missing thumbnails):
>Select Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 SPI and Internet
>Tools in Add/Remove Programs, and then from the menu that
>opens select Repair. . .

Thanks for the advice but none of it worked (no newer
updates found). Run: regsrv32 thumbvw.dll hasn't worked
either. It seems there's no toolbar script on my pc
configured to activate thumbnails in the namespace.

FYI, I installed a display driver update from Nvidia 2 wks
ago, but missed saving my previous display profiles.
Nvidia update has desktop manager full of confusing
options, but uncertain if update is reversible. There's
now a conflict with Zone Alarm and forced pc shutdowns are
common. RE thumbnails - all I need, I suppose, is the
appropriate script.
--Jeremy Stanford

[Mart]

If you think that the Nvidia update may be linked to the problem, are you
able to re-install the original video drivers? Do you have the original
disk?

If so, uninstall the Nv utilities and then 'Remove' any/all display drivers
and monitors shown in Device Manager. But do it in Safe Mode, rather than
just trying to 'update' in Normal Mode. (It makes a cleaner job and gets rid
of conflicting registry entries, which can often cause other issues)

Mart


"Jeremy Stanford" > wrote in message
...
> >Mike Maltby wrote (re missing thumbnails):
> >Select Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 SPI and Internet
> >Tools in Add/Remove Programs, and then from the menu that
> >opens select Repair. . .
>
> Thanks for the advice but none of it worked (no newer
> updates found). Run: regsrv32 thumbvw.dll hasn't worked
> either. It seems there's no toolbar script on my pc
> configured to activate thumbnails in the namespace.
>
> FYI, I installed a display driver update from Nvidia 2 wks
> ago, but missed saving my previous display profiles.
> Nvidia update has desktop manager full of confusing
> options, but uncertain if update is reversible. There's
> now a conflict with Zone Alarm and forced pc shutdowns are
> common. RE thumbnails - all I need, I suppose, is the
> appropriate script.
> --Jeremy Stanford
>
>

[Mike M]

>(no newer updates found).

I'm not certain how that is relevant when repairing Internet Explorer via
Add/Remove Programs however you seem to have far greater problems than just
being, presumably, unable to see thumbnails.

Since your problems apparently stem from your updating your NVidia drivers
what happens when you use system restore to roll your system back to the state
it was in before these problems began?

BTW the standard fix for repairing thumbnails is not to repair IE (although
that should fix them)but rather to reregister thumbvw.dll as follows:
At a command prompt such as Start | Run type:

REGSVR32 THUMBVW.DLL

and press enter. This should re-register thumbvw.dll and hopefully add back
the necessary missing registry entries.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Jeremy Stanford > wrote:

>> Mike Maltby wrote (re missing thumbnails):
>> Select Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 SPI and Internet
>> Tools in Add/Remove Programs, and then from the menu that
>> opens select Repair. . .
>
> Thanks for the advice but none of it worked (no newer
> updates found). Run: regsrv32 thumbvw.dll hasn't worked
> either. It seems there's no toolbar script on my pc
> configured to activate thumbnails in the namespace.
>
> FYI, I installed a display driver update from Nvidia 2 wks
> ago, but missed saving my previous display profiles.
> Nvidia update has desktop manager full of confusing
> options, but uncertain if update is reversible. There's
> now a conflict with Zone Alarm and forced pc shutdowns are
> common. RE thumbnails - all I need, I suppose, is the
> appropriate script.
> --Jeremy Stanford

[Jeremy Stanford]

>-----Original Message-----
>>(no newer updates found).

>I'm not certain how that is relevant when repairing
>Internet Explorer via >Add/Remove Programs

You mentioned it in your initial advice.

>however you seem to have far greater problems than just
>being, presumably, unable to see thumbnails.

True.

>Since your problems apparently stem from your updating
>your NVidia drivers >what happens when you use system
>restore to roll your system back

System Restore - yes, it hasn't been operative for months,
I'll be coming back on this ...!

>BTW the standard fix for repairing thumbnails is . . .
Start | Run type: REGSVR32 THUMBVW.DLL
>Mike Maltby MS-MVP

See my previous response <<Run: regsrv32 thumbvw.dll
hasn't worked either.>>

Your advice IS appreciated. I'll try reversing the
downloaded Nvidia update - suspect Nvidia won't supply old
format, so must trust I have the old driver available.
--Jeremy Stanford

[Mike M]

It would have helped if you'd stuck then to the original thread and I and
others could have seen your post in context. :-)

> System Restore - yes, it hasn't been operative for months,
> I'll be coming back on this ...!

Well then you don't need me to say that if you had fixed whatever problem you
had with system restore two months ago you could have used SR to get you out
of your current fix. :-)

> See my previous response <<Run: regsrv32 thumbvw.dll
> hasn't worked either.>>

How am I supposed to know this? I'm not clairvoyant and you made no reference
to this in the post to which I replied. <g>

So, please please, stick to the original thread when posting follow-ups. Even
if not for yourself it helps preserve the sanity of those who might be trying
to help you.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Jeremy Stanford > wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>>> (no newer updates found).
>
>> I'm not certain how that is relevant when repairing
>> Internet Explorer via >Add/Remove Programs
>
> You mentioned it in your initial advice.
>
>> however you seem to have far greater problems than just
>> being, presumably, unable to see thumbnails.
>
> True.
>
>> Since your problems apparently stem from your updating
>> your NVidia drivers >what happens when you use system
>> restore to roll your system back
>
> System Restore - yes, it hasn't been operative for months,
> I'll be coming back on this ...!
>
>> BTW the standard fix for repairing thumbnails is . . .
> Start | Run type: REGSVR32 THUMBVW.DLL
>> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
>
> See my previous response <<Run: regsrv32 thumbvw.dll
> hasn't worked either.>>
>
> Your advice IS appreciated. I'll try reversing the
> downloaded Nvidia update - suspect Nvidia won't supply old
> format, so must trust I have the old driver available.
> --Jeremy Stanford

[Jeremy Stanford]

>-----Original Message-----
>It would have helped if you'd stuck then to the original
>thread and I and others could have seen your post in
>context. :-)

Apologies - using "expanded view" now.
I've now solved the absent thumbnails problem, and
replaced display driver, by a less orthodox route. I found
myself with the Windows Recovery CD in place during a
restart so opted for (No.2) a reinstall of Windows with
old files intact.

However, System Restore still won't operate. The message
as always is "...not able to create a restore point.
Please restart and [run again]".

I have tried to fix it previously... removing H,S,R
attributes and renaming... but the replacement folder
still didn't work.

Some history - one year ago Windows entry stopped and only
DOS was available. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard
drive by copying it, he said. So I have an old hidden
drive that isn't identified by Windows. Certainly, I have
half the memory available than before, now 128MB RAM 46%
free. I cannot tell when SysRestore went duff - it is only
called upon when needed. Might this be the source of the
SysRestore problem?
--Jeremy Stanford

[Mike M]

Jeremy,

Your system restore problem.

First, check that you don't have a wininit.ini file. If you do, rename this
to wininit.old and retry System Restore. If this works then you possibly have
a program that creates a wininit.ini file each time you boot your system. One
known example is tgcmd.exe from the late lamented @Home another is a program
called "ACCESS DENIED". If you have tgcmd.exe I understand that disabling it
in MSConfig | Startup will have no adverse effect on your system but enable
you to use System Restore. Likewise ACCESS DENIED needs to be "switched off"
whilst using SR to either create or restore to a previous checkpoint.
McAfee's Spam Killer also seems to create a new wininit.ini file each time the
system is booted. See also MS KB 274092 - "Error Message: System Restore
Cannot Run Until You Restart the Computer"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=274092).

If this isn't the reason for your problem then try running
SCANREG /FIX
from a command prompt such as Start | Run. Note that the system will re-boot
so don't have any applications open when doing this. I suggest this because
the same message is also displayed when the registry has been corrupted in
some way. scanreg /fix attempts to repair that damage.

Hopefully one or the other will solve your problem and allow you to create a
manual check point.

Finally you may want to carry out a quick test of system restore to check that
all is now OK;
a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.
b) Create a manual checkpoint
c) Delete the shortcut
d) Restore you PC to the checkpoint you created.
Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Jeremy Stanford > wrote:

> Apologies - using "expanded view" now.
> I've now solved the absent thumbnails problem, and
> replaced display driver, by a less orthodox route. I found
> myself with the Windows Recovery CD in place during a
> restart so opted for (No.2) a reinstall of Windows with
> old files intact.
>
> However, System Restore still won't operate. The message
> as always is "...not able to create a restore point.
> Please restart and [run again]".
>
> I have tried to fix it previously... removing H,S,R
> attributes and renaming... but the replacement folder
> still didn't work.
>
> Some history - one year ago Windows entry stopped and only
> DOS was available. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard
> drive by copying it, he said. So I have an old hidden
> drive that isn't identified by Windows. Certainly, I have
> half the memory available than before, now 128MB RAM 46%
> free. I cannot tell when SysRestore went duff - it is only
> called upon when needed. Might this be the source of the
> SysRestore problem?

[Noel Paton]

Mike/Jeremy
Since the system has been restored using the CD, I suspect that the 290700
patch is no longer applied... and all the other patches need checking as
well
A scan with Belarc Advisor should sort out the wheat from the chaff!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

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"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> Jeremy,
>
> Your system restore problem.
>
> First, check that you don't have a wininit.ini file. If you do, rename
this
> to wininit.old and retry System Restore. If this works then you possibly
have
> a program that creates a wininit.ini file each time you boot your system.
One
> known example is tgcmd.exe from the late lamented @Home another is a
program
> called "ACCESS DENIED". If you have tgcmd.exe I understand that disabling
it
> in MSConfig | Startup will have no adverse effect on your system but
enable
> you to use System Restore. Likewise ACCESS DENIED needs to be "switched
off"
> whilst using SR to either create or restore to a previous checkpoint.
> McAfee's Spam Killer also seems to create a new wininit.ini file each time
the
> system is booted. See also MS KB 274092 - "Error Message: System Restore
> Cannot Run Until You Restart the Computer"
> (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=274092).
>
> If this isn't the reason for your problem then try running
> SCANREG /FIX
> from a command prompt such as Start | Run. Note that the system will
re-boot
> so don't have any applications open when doing this. I suggest this
because
> the same message is also displayed when the registry has been corrupted in
> some way. scanreg /fix attempts to repair that damage.
>
> Hopefully one or the other will solve your problem and allow you to create
a
> manual check point.
>
> Finally you may want to carry out a quick test of system restore to check
that
> all is now OK;
> a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.
> b) Create a manual checkpoint
> c) Delete the shortcut
> d) Restore you PC to the checkpoint you created.
> Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?
> --
> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
>
>
>
> Jeremy Stanford > wrote:
>
> > Apologies - using "expanded view" now.
> > I've now solved the absent thumbnails problem, and
> > replaced display driver, by a less orthodox route. I found
> > myself with the Windows Recovery CD in place during a
> > restart so opted for (No.2) a reinstall of Windows with
> > old files intact.
> >
> > However, System Restore still won't operate. The message
> > as always is "...not able to create a restore point.
> > Please restart and [run again]".
> >
> > I have tried to fix it previously... removing H,S,R
> > attributes and renaming... but the replacement folder
> > still didn't work.
> >
> > Some history - one year ago Windows entry stopped and only
> > DOS was available. A local 'expert' reinstalled the hard
> > drive by copying it, he said. So I have an old hidden
> > drive that isn't identified by Windows. Certainly, I have
> > half the memory available than before, now 128MB RAM 46%
> > free. I cannot tell when SysRestore went duff - it is only
> > called upon when needed. Might this be the source of the
> > SysRestore problem?
>
>

[Mike M]

Which is perhaps why I suggested that the poster then try using system restore
after using scanreg /fix. <g>

I agree that a check using Belarc would at least sort out which patches are
broken and need to be reinstalled.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Noel Paton > wrote:

> Mike/Jeremy
> Since the system has been restored using the CD, I suspect that the 290700
> patch is no longer applied... and all the other patches need checking as
> well
> A scan with Belarc Advisor should sort out the wheat from the chaff!

[Jeremy Stanford]

Mike Maltby,
Have tried all recommendations - but no wininit.ini or
tgcmd.exe files; ACCESS DENIED search returns too many
folders and files to identify anything wrong; and
scanreg /fix hasn't fixed it.

I currently have several recurring error messages on
startup or later.
1.Vsmon has caused error - will close.
2.Tapisrv has caused error - will close.
3.Error in Wind\Sys\NvCpl.dll - missing entry NvStartup.
4.You are using Selective Startup. [Yet all are unchecked]
The first two may be with Zone Alarm but reinstall of ZA
has made no difference. The second follows my Windows
reinstall from CD.. I'm concerned that fixing this may
return the updated display driver that I don't want.
I can't figure the fourth.

I have run Belarc Adviser. I would like to know if any
reinstalls may improve SYSRestore and if I need to install
*all* the Win updates. FYI, all details as follows:
DataAccess
Q318203 on 20/05/2003 (details...)
Q329414-25 on 20/05/2003 (details...)
DirectX
DX819696 (details...) Reinstall!
Internet Explorer
Q330994 (details...)
Q813489 (details...)
Q818529 (details...)
Q824145 (details...)
Q828750 (details...)
Q832894 (details...)
Q837009 (details...)
SP1 (SP1)
Windows Media Player
WM320920.1 (details...) Reinstall!
Windows Media Player (continued)
WM828026 (details...) Reinstall!
WinME
UPD273017 (details...)
UPD273991 (details...) Reinstall!
UPD287564 (details...)
UPD290700 (details...) Reinstall!
UPD314757 (details...) Reinstall!
UPD323172 (details...) Reinstall!
UPD323255 (details...) Reinstall!
UPD329048 (details...) Reinstall!
UPD329115 (details...) Reinstall!
UPD811630 (details...) Reinstall!
UPD812709 (details...) Reinstall!
UPD825119 (details...) Reinstall!
UPDQ823559 (details...)
P.S. Sorry my probs. are dominating the newsgroup.
--Jeremy Stanford

[Noel Paton]

You need to reinstall all the patches marked reinstall (there's a
surprise!<g>)

To do this, probably the easiest way is to go to Windows Update, and click
on the Window Update Catalog link that's in the left pane - do a Search
there for Millennium updates, and select all the appropriate patches for
download to the basket - download them, and install one-by-one.
For any that you can't get from the WUC, use the following generic link

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=xxxxxx

where xxxxxx is the Q or UPD number, and select the appropriate download
from any available there

post back if you can't find any, or I'm being unclear!

Once you've got them all reinstalled, run Belarc again, and check that all
is OK, then reassess your problems.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

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"Jeremy Stanford" > wrote in message
...
> Mike Maltby,
> Have tried all recommendations - but no wininit.ini or
> tgcmd.exe files; ACCESS DENIED search returns too many
> folders and files to identify anything wrong; and
> scanreg /fix hasn't fixed it.
>
> I currently have several recurring error messages on
> startup or later.
> 1.Vsmon has caused error - will close.
> 2.Tapisrv has caused error - will close.
> 3.Error in Wind\Sys\NvCpl.dll - missing entry NvStartup.
> 4.You are using Selective Startup. [Yet all are unchecked]
> The first two may be with Zone Alarm but reinstall of ZA
> has made no difference. The second follows my Windows
> reinstall from CD.. I'm concerned that fixing this may
> return the updated display driver that I don't want.
> I can't figure the fourth.
>
> I have run Belarc Adviser. I would like to know if any
> reinstalls may improve SYSRestore and if I need to install
> *all* the Win updates. FYI, all details as follows:
> DataAccess
> Q318203 on 20/05/2003 (details...)
> Q329414-25 on 20/05/2003 (details...)
> DirectX
> DX819696 (details...) Reinstall!
> Internet Explorer
> Q330994 (details...)
> Q813489 (details...)
> Q818529 (details...)
> Q824145 (details...)
> Q828750 (details...)
> Q832894 (details...)
> Q837009 (details...)
> SP1 (SP1)
> Windows Media Player
> WM320920.1 (details...) Reinstall!
> Windows Media Player (continued)
> WM828026 (details...) Reinstall!
> WinME
> UPD273017 (details...)
> UPD273991 (details...) Reinstall!
> UPD287564 (details...)
> UPD290700 (details...) Reinstall!
> UPD314757 (details...) Reinstall!
> UPD323172 (details...) Reinstall!
> UPD323255 (details...) Reinstall!
> UPD329048 (details...) Reinstall!
> UPD329115 (details...) Reinstall!
> UPD811630 (details...) Reinstall!
> UPD812709 (details...) Reinstall!
> UPD825119 (details...) Reinstall!
> UPDQ823559 (details...)
> P.S. Sorry my probs. are dominating the newsgroup.
> --Jeremy Stanford
>