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Brian
June 23rd 04, 02:18 AM
ok, to make a long story short, I starting having trouble with my computer.
It is an old Gateway, I have ME installed on it now. I booted up the other
night and a blue screen came up with this message "Windows protection
error. You need to restart your computer. System halted."

So I restarted in safe mode, then started troubleshooting in the system
config utility. Ended up finding that when I startup without the file
ndis.VXD the computer will start fine. Only problem now is that I have no
Internet. So off to Microsoft Knowledge Base and ran across this article
261766 - Hang at Startup or Shutdown with Ndis.vxd Enabled Followed the
instructions in this article and found out that I have a hardware conflict.
133240 Troubleshooting Device Conflicts with Device Manager

My device that has the conflict seems to be my network adapter. I have a
Seimens Speedstream PCI 10/100 installed. Under the properties tab>general>
then under device status this is the message.

This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the file(
ndis.VXD , ntkem.VXD , ndis.vxd) that loads the drivers for the device [code
8]

To fix this problem, run windows setup again using your windows CD-ROM.

Now my Windows cd is on a Gateway System Restoration Kit, if I run windows
setup from my restoration cd, will I lose everything on my computer now, or
will it basically just write what files I need or what? Or is there another
way that I can get these files restored without having to go through the
setup?

Sorry for the long explanation for such a short question, but I just wanted
to provide the history of what I had already tried.

Thanks,
Brian

Noel Paton
June 23rd 04, 08:56 PM
Do an over-the-top install from the HD - look here for detailed
instructions.
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/reinME.htm
post back with any questions (or use the feedback link on the site)

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"Brian" > wrote in message
...
> ok, to make a long story short, I starting having trouble with my
computer.
> It is an old Gateway, I have ME installed on it now. I booted up the other
> night and a blue screen came up with this message "Windows protection
> error. You need to restart your computer. System halted."
>
> So I restarted in safe mode, then started troubleshooting in the system
> config utility. Ended up finding that when I startup without the file
> ndis.VXD the computer will start fine. Only problem now is that I have no
> Internet. So off to Microsoft Knowledge Base and ran across this article
> 261766 - Hang at Startup or Shutdown with Ndis.vxd Enabled Followed the
> instructions in this article and found out that I have a hardware
conflict.
> 133240 Troubleshooting Device Conflicts with Device Manager
>
> My device that has the conflict seems to be my network adapter. I have a
> Seimens Speedstream PCI 10/100 installed. Under the properties
tab>general>
> then under device status this is the message.
>
> This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the file(
> ndis.VXD , ntkem.VXD , ndis.vxd) that loads the drivers for the device
[code
> 8]
>
> To fix this problem, run windows setup again using your windows CD-ROM.
>
> Now my Windows cd is on a Gateway System Restoration Kit, if I run windows
> setup from my restoration cd, will I lose everything on my computer now,
or
> will it basically just write what files I need or what? Or is there
another
> way that I can get these files restored without having to go through the
> setup?
>
> Sorry for the long explanation for such a short question, but I just
wanted
> to provide the history of what I had already tried.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
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cquirke (MVP Win9x)
June 26th 04, 09:06 PM
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:18:16 -0700, "Brian" >

>"Windows protection error. You need to restart your computer. System halted."

That is usually one of:
- flaky hardware
- device driver issues

So step 1 is to back away and verify hardware integrity before
allowing Windows to run again, as per
http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/bthink.htm

Once you know that your hardware's OK (i.e. no HD or RAM errors, not
overclocked, fans OK etc.) and there's no active malware, you can get
back into Windows and zoom into specifics.

>So I restarted in safe mode, then started troubleshooting in the system
>config utility. Ended up finding that when I startup without the file
>ndis.VXD the computer will start fine. Only problem now is that I have no
>Internet. So off to Microsoft Knowledge Base and ran across this article
>261766 - Hang at Startup or Shutdown with Ndis.vxd Enabled Followed the
>instructions in this article and found out that I have a hardware conflict.
>133240 Troubleshooting Device Conflicts with Device Manager

>My device that has the conflict seems to be my network adapter. I have a
>Seimens Speedstream PCI 10/100 installed. Under the properties tab>general>
>then under device status this is the message.

Test that by setting the device to "disable in this profile" and see
if that works, even with the .VXD in effect.

You may also want to check C:\Scandisk.log to see whether any code
files such as that .vxd were "fixed" (or "cleaned" by av, in av logs).

>This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the file(
>ndis.VXD , ntkem.VXD , ndis.vxd) that loads the drivers for the device [code
>8]

>To fix this problem, run windows setup again using your windows CD-ROM.

Don't do that. What I'd do first is:
- copy the relevant .VXD to another location
- extract the relevant .VXD from WinME CD
- rt-click and compare Version tab in Properties
- compare the code contents via FC /B

If the versions are supposed to be the same but FC shows the content
differs, then likely the old ones were corrupted.

>Now my Windows cd is on a Gateway System Restoration Kit, if I run windows
>setup from my restoration cd, will I lose everything on my computer now, or
>will it basically just write what files I need or what?

It will likely nuke the whole thing. Don't do that.

>I can get these files restored without having to go through the setup?

Extract /A is your friend. Use Extract /? to find how to use it :-)



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