click and freeze

[fcc0610]

I've been having a problem when opening folders,items in the task bar, or just opening applications (doesn't matter which app.) from the desktop. Whenever I click to open something up, the screen would freeze and become not responsive for about 30 seconds, then it would either open or close the application after the 30 second period. While frozen the mouse cursor is able to move but the screen does not respond to the clicks for that 30 second delay or fozen period.
I checked for spyware, highjackers and viruses with a clean bill of health. I also deleted all cookies and everything in the TIF folder. I also checked crtl, alt +delete, but found nothing out of the ordinary .
I am using windows ME and I dialup to the internet.
Thanks for any suggestions,

[heirloom]

C-A-D is not going to give you the "whole story." Get a good process
viewer, i.e. Process Explorer, free, from www.sysinternals.com . It will
show you EVERY running process and the amount of cpu cycles in % being used
by each. You should be able to spot what it eating your cycles.
Heirloom, old and post back....let us know



"fcc0610" > wrote in message
...
> I've been having a problem when opening folders,items in the task bar, or
just opening applications (doesn't matter which app.) from the desktop.
Whenever I click to open something up, the screen would freeze and become
not responsive for about 30 seconds, then it would either open or close the
application after the 30 second period. While frozen the mouse cursor is
able to move but the screen does not respond to the clicks for that 30
second delay or fozen period.
> I checked for spyware, highjackers and viruses with a clean bill of
health. I also deleted all cookies and everything in the TIF folder. I also
checked crtl, alt +delete, but found nothing out of the ordinary .
> I am using windows ME and I dialup to the internet.
> Thanks for any suggestions,

[Rick T]

fcc0610 wrote:

> I've been having a problem when opening folders,items in the task bar, or just opening applications (doesn't matter which app.) from the desktop. Whenever I click to open something up, the screen would freeze and become not responsive for about 30 seconds, then it would either open or close the application after the 30 second period. While frozen the mouse cursor is able to move but the screen does not respond to the clicks for that 30 second delay or fozen period.
> I checked for spyware, highjackers and viruses with a clean bill of health. I also deleted all cookies and everything in the TIF folder. I also checked crtl, alt +delete, but found nothing out of the ordinary .
> I am using windows ME and I dialup to the internet.
> Thanks for any suggestions,

when you <ctrl-alt-delete> do you notice a program called winmgmt?
that's "normal" but occasionally it doesn't unload when it's done and
proceeds to gobble memory/resources.


Rick

[fcc0610]

Thanks for the info guys.
I took Frank's advice and downloaded the Process Explorer with no surprise entries nor any significant resource loss.
In response to Rick, negative on the "winmgmt entry" showing up.
Thanks for your help,

[heirloom]

Don't know who Frank is, but, I have one more thing for you to try..........
Right click an open area of your Desktop, select Properties, Settings tab,
Performance tab, Advanced button and move the Hardware Acceleration slider
to one notch above "None."
If your problem goes away, then look to video drivers and or video card.
Heirloom, old and sounds like frank


"fcc0610" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for the info guys.
> I took Frank's advice and downloaded the Process Explorer with no surprise
entries nor any significant resource loss.
> In response to Rick, negative on the "winmgmt entry" showing up.
> Thanks for your help,

[fcc0610]

Sorry about the name, Heirloom.
I moved the hardware accelerator a few notches to the left.
It seems like it did the trick. Thanks,
"old and not getting any younger"

[heirloom]

Suspected it would, based on what you posted. Your task now will be to go
to the video card manufacturer's website and check for updated drivers. If
this fails to remedy the problem you will need to consider a new video card.
In the event you have onboard video, check to see if you have an AGP
slot......AGP video cards are pretty reasonable in the 32Meg range (which I
found very adequate on my old box and for my purposes). If no AGP slot, see
if you have a vacant PCI slot and get the appropriate card. That should
not only help your problem, but, you may even see an increase in performance
over the onboard video.
Heirloom, old and been there


"fcc0610" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry about the name, Heirloom.
> I moved the hardware accelerator a few notches to the left.
> It seems like it did the trick. Thanks,
> "old and not getting any younger"

[BigRedWingsFan]

"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
: Suspected it would, based on what you posted. Your task now will be to
go
: to the video card manufacturer's website and check for updated drivers.

Good morning, Herr Loon! I have done this (Intel 82810) and downloaded what
their site says is the most up-to-fate version. Whenever I go to MS
Updates, I always get a driver update dated July 2001. What's up with this?
Also, when doing my Gateway Update, I continue to be informed that there is
an updated version of Intel 82802 available. I download it like a good boy
and when it installs, every file comes up as "There is a more current
version of this file on your PC, do you want to overwrite it?" Teach me,
ancient and wise one.

Marty


If
: this fails to remedy the problem you will need to consider a new video
card.
: In the event you have onboard video, check to see if you have an AGP
: slot......AGP video cards are pretty reasonable in the 32Meg range (which
I
: found very adequate on my old box and for my purposes). If no AGP slot,
see
: if you have a vacant PCI slot and get the appropriate card. That should
: not only help your problem, but, you may even see an increase in
performance
: over the onboard video.
: Heirloom, old and been there
:
:
: "fcc0610" > wrote in message
: ...
: > Sorry about the name, Heirloom.
: > I moved the hardware accelerator a few notches to the left.
: > It seems like it did the trick. Thanks,
: > "old and not getting any younger"
:
:

[heirloom]

I have an old Gateway, myself.......PII G6-400. The only thing I can think
of is that the MS site is not recognizing the newer driver (maybe
unsigned??). I have never messed with the Gateway updates...well, I did
once and turned this thing into a big paperweight. If it is telling you
that what you have is more current and you are not having any problems, then
run with it. Don't fix what ain't broke!
My video drivers are not the latest and greatest, but, everything
works....not a stutter anywhere, even when using FlightSim (the only and
closest thing to a game that I have).

Remember, I am no guru....but, if it was my box and everything is working
properly, I would leave it be.
Heirloom, old and leave it (to) be (ver)

"BigRedWingsFan" > wrote in message
...
>
> "heirloom" > wrote in message
> ...
> : Suspected it would, based on what you posted. Your task now will be to
> go
> : to the video card manufacturer's website and check for updated drivers.
>
> Good morning, Herr Loon! I have done this (Intel 82810) and downloaded
what
> their site says is the most up-to-fate version. Whenever I go to MS
> Updates, I always get a driver update dated July 2001. What's up with
this?
> Also, when doing my Gateway Update, I continue to be informed that there
is
> an updated version of Intel 82802 available. I download it like a good
boy
> and when it installs, every file comes up as "There is a more current
> version of this file on your PC, do you want to overwrite it?" Teach me,
> ancient and wise one.
>
> Marty
>
>
> If
> : this fails to remedy the problem you will need to consider a new video
> card.
> : In the event you have onboard video, check to see if you have an AGP
> : slot......AGP video cards are pretty reasonable in the 32Meg range
(which
> I
> : found very adequate on my old box and for my purposes). If no AGP slot,
> see
> : if you have a vacant PCI slot and get the appropriate card. That
should
> : not only help your problem, but, you may even see an increase in
> performance
> : over the onboard video.
> : Heirloom, old and been there
> :
> :
> : "fcc0610" > wrote in message
> : ...
> : > Sorry about the name, Heirloom.
> : > I moved the hardware accelerator a few notches to the left.
> : > It seems like it did the trick. Thanks,
> : > "old and not getting any younger"
> :
> :
>
>

[Heather]

I have to admit that downloading video drivers scares the bejeebers out of
me too. I have later ones downloaded, but not opened. IIRC, you have to
hit Add/Remove and take out the old nVidia ones and then let the computer
'find' the new ones.....still operating with my original ones, but
occasionally have graphic problems and have to reboot.

Baby step instructions would be welcome. And the Windows Update C-Media
drivers are Nov. of 2002. (audio) But not going to download those.

Cheers......Heather
"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
> I have an old Gateway, myself.......PII G6-400. The only thing I can
think
> of is that the MS site is not recognizing the newer driver (maybe
> unsigned??). I have never messed with the Gateway updates...well, I did
> once and turned this thing into a big paperweight. If it is telling you
> that what you have is more current and you are not having any problems,
then
> run with it. Don't fix what ain't broke!
> My video drivers are not the latest and greatest, but, everything
> works....not a stutter anywhere, even when using FlightSim (the only and
> closest thing to a game that I have).
>
> Remember, I am no guru....but, if it was my box and everything is working
> properly, I would leave it be.
> Heirloom, old and leave it (to) be (ver)
>
> "BigRedWingsFan" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > : Suspected it would, based on what you posted. Your task now will be
to
> > go
> > : to the video card manufacturer's website and check for updated
drivers.
> >
> > Good morning, Herr Loon! I have done this (Intel 82810) and downloaded
> what
> > their site says is the most up-to-fate version. Whenever I go to MS
> > Updates, I always get a driver update dated July 2001. What's up with
> this?
> > Also, when doing my Gateway Update, I continue to be informed that there
> is
> > an updated version of Intel 82802 available. I download it like a good
> boy
> > and when it installs, every file comes up as "There is a more current
> > version of this file on your PC, do you want to overwrite it?" Teach
me,
> > ancient and wise one.
> >
> > Marty
> >
> >
> > If
> > : this fails to remedy the problem you will need to consider a new video
> > card.
> > : In the event you have onboard video, check to see if you have an AGP
> > : slot......AGP video cards are pretty reasonable in the 32Meg range
> (which
> > I
> > : found very adequate on my old box and for my purposes). If no AGP
slot,
> > see
> > : if you have a vacant PCI slot and get the appropriate card. That
> should
> > : not only help your problem, but, you may even see an increase in
> > performance
> > : over the onboard video.
> > : Heirloom, old and been there
> > :
> > :
> > : "fcc0610" > wrote in message
> > : ...
> > : > Sorry about the name, Heirloom.
> > : > I moved the hardware accelerator a few notches to the left.
> > : > It seems like it did the trick. Thanks,
> > : > "old and not getting any younger"
> > :
> > :
> >
> >
>
>

[Rick T]

Heather wrote:

> I have to admit that downloading video drivers scares the bejeebers out of
> me too. I have later ones downloaded, but not opened. IIRC, you have to
> hit Add/Remove and take out the old nVidia ones and then let the computer
> 'find' the new ones.....still operating with my original ones, but
> occasionally have graphic problems and have to reboot.

Probably Uninstall the old ones, reboot to the good old default 640x480
then run the new Install program. YMMV, of course, I haven't got an
nVidia card.

Rick

>
> Baby step instructions would be welcome. And the Windows Update C-Media
> drivers are Nov. of 2002. (audio) But not going to download those.
>
> Cheers......Heather
> "heirloom" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I have an old Gateway, myself.......PII G6-400. The only thing I can
>
> think
>
>>of is that the MS site is not recognizing the newer driver (maybe
>>unsigned??). I have never messed with the Gateway updates...well, I did
>>once and turned this thing into a big paperweight. If it is telling you
>>that what you have is more current and you are not having any problems,
>
> then
>
>>run with it. Don't fix what ain't broke!
>>My video drivers are not the latest and greatest, but, everything
>>works....not a stutter anywhere, even when using FlightSim (the only and
>>closest thing to a game that I have).
>>
>>Remember, I am no guru....but, if it was my box and everything is working
>>properly, I would leave it be.
>> Heirloom, old and leave it (to) be (ver)
>>
>>"BigRedWingsFan" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
>>>: Suspected it would, based on what you posted. Your task now will be
>
> to
>
>>>go
>>>: to the video card manufacturer's website and check for updated
>
> drivers.
>
>>>Good morning, Herr Loon! I have done this (Intel 82810) and downloaded
>>
>>what
>>
>>>their site says is the most up-to-fate version. Whenever I go to MS
>>>Updates, I always get a driver update dated July 2001. What's up with
>>
>>this?
>>
>>>Also, when doing my Gateway Update, I continue to be informed that there
>>
>>is
>>
>>>an updated version of Intel 82802 available. I download it like a good
>>
>>boy
>>
>>>and when it installs, every file comes up as "There is a more current
>>>version of this file on your PC, do you want to overwrite it?" Teach
>
> me,
>
>>>ancient and wise one.
>>>
>>>Marty
>>>
>>>
>>> If
>>>: this fails to remedy the problem you will need to consider a new video
>>>card.
>>>: In the event you have onboard video, check to see if you have an AGP
>>>: slot......AGP video cards are pretty reasonable in the 32Meg range
>>
>>(which
>>
>>>I
>>>: found very adequate on my old box and for my purposes). If no AGP
>
> slot,
>
>>>see
>>>: if you have a vacant PCI slot and get the appropriate card. That
>>
>>should
>>
>>>: not only help your problem, but, you may even see an increase in
>>>performance
>>>: over the onboard video.
>>>: Heirloom, old and been there
>>>:
>>>:
>>>: "fcc0610" > wrote in message
>>>: ...
>>>: > Sorry about the name, Heirloom.
>>>: > I moved the hardware accelerator a few notches to the left.
>>>: > It seems like it did the trick. Thanks,
>>>: > "old and not getting any younger"
>>>:
>>>:
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Heather]

Thanks......probably that is the way, but need "see Dick run" instructions,
grin.

Heather (did you get that nasty storm??)

"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
> Heather wrote:
>
> > I have to admit that downloading video drivers scares the bejeebers out
of
> > me too. I have later ones downloaded, but not opened. IIRC, you have
to
> > hit Add/Remove and take out the old nVidia ones and then let the
computer
> > 'find' the new ones.....still operating with my original ones, but
> > occasionally have graphic problems and have to reboot.
>
> Probably Uninstall the old ones, reboot to the good old default 640x480
> then run the new Install program. YMMV, of course, I haven't got an
> nVidia card.
>
> Rick
>
> >
> > Baby step instructions would be welcome. And the Windows Update C-Media
> > drivers are Nov. of 2002. (audio) But not going to download those.
> >
> > Cheers......Heather
> > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>I have an old Gateway, myself.......PII G6-400. The only thing I can
> >
> > think
> >
> >>of is that the MS site is not recognizing the newer driver (maybe
> >>unsigned??). I have never messed with the Gateway updates...well, I did
> >>once and turned this thing into a big paperweight. If it is telling
you
> >>that what you have is more current and you are not having any problems,
> >
> > then
> >
> >>run with it. Don't fix what ain't broke!
> >>My video drivers are not the latest and greatest, but, everything
> >>works....not a stutter anywhere, even when using FlightSim (the only and
> >>closest thing to a game that I have).
> >>
> >>Remember, I am no guru....but, if it was my box and everything is
working
> >>properly, I would leave it be.
> >> Heirloom, old and leave it (to) be (ver)
> >>
> >>"BigRedWingsFan" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>>"heirloom" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>: Suspected it would, based on what you posted. Your task now will be
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>go
> >>>: to the video card manufacturer's website and check for updated
> >
> > drivers.
> >
> >>>Good morning, Herr Loon! I have done this (Intel 82810) and downloaded
> >>
> >>what
> >>
> >>>their site says is the most up-to-fate version. Whenever I go to MS
> >>>Updates, I always get a driver update dated July 2001. What's up with
> >>
> >>this?
> >>
> >>>Also, when doing my Gateway Update, I continue to be informed that
there
> >>
> >>is
> >>
> >>>an updated version of Intel 82802 available. I download it like a good
> >>
> >>boy
> >>
> >>>and when it installs, every file comes up as "There is a more current
> >>>version of this file on your PC, do you want to overwrite it?" Teach
> >
> > me,
> >
> >>>ancient and wise one.
> >>>
> >>>Marty
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If
> >>>: this fails to remedy the problem you will need to consider a new
video
> >>>card.
> >>>: In the event you have onboard video, check to see if you have an AGP
> >>>: slot......AGP video cards are pretty reasonable in the 32Meg range
> >>
> >>(which
> >>
> >>>I
> >>>: found very adequate on my old box and for my purposes). If no AGP
> >
> > slot,
> >
> >>>see
> >>>: if you have a vacant PCI slot and get the appropriate card. That
> >>
> >>should
> >>
> >>>: not only help your problem, but, you may even see an increase in
> >>>performance
> >>>: over the onboard video.
> >>>: Heirloom, old and been there
> >>>:
> >>>:
> >>>: "fcc0610" > wrote in message
> >>>: ...
> >>>: > Sorry about the name, Heirloom.
> >>>: > I moved the hardware accelerator a few notches to the left.
> >>>: > It seems like it did the trick. Thanks,
> >>>: > "old and not getting any
younger"
> >>>:
> >>>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >