Re: MSOE.DLL

[heirloom]

Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second machine
set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that is
the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not be
available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I am
not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read the
mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and, even
then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I think
Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on the
server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server.
Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
Heirloom, old and speculating


"webster72n" > wrote in message
...
>
> The issue is, that my email for Outlook Express for the most part gets
> delivered to my backup pc, when I expect to find the same thing in both
> computers, since they both have the same version of Outlook Express (5.0)
> or, at least
> in my main computer with Windows ME, because I do all of my business
there.
> This is the case when it comes to News Groups, but not with my personal
> mail. Could it be because I changed my
> my ID not too long ago? Or is it just a matter of configuration?
> What are your thoughts on that, heirloom?
>
> Harry.
>
>
>
> "heirloom" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm not sure that I understand your issue with the email......are you
> using
> > two different addresses? My picture of the situation is that you would
> > fire up your Me machine and simply download your email........I am sure
I
> > must be missing something. Please expound......
> > Heirloom, old and glad I only have one to contend with
> >
> >
> > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > heirloom,
> > > My problem was solved a lot easier than thought.
> > > I went to IESetup and chose to install Outlook Express.
> > > It told me that all necessary components were already installed and
> > whether
> > > I wanted to reinstall anyway.
> > > Of course I answered "yes" to that and - low and behold -
> > > after automatic reboot I tried Outlook Express and it worked just fine
> > > again.
> > > Hope to remember this time and maybe even help sombody else in
trouble.
> > > There is just one more thing:
> > > I am running these two computers with the same Outlook Express
version,
> > but
> > > Windows ME on my main and windows 98 on my backup computer.
> > > But most of my eimail in Outlook Express goes to my backup pc, which I
> > don't
> > > like.
> > > Is there a way to fix this?
> > > Or should I post this as a new subject?
> > > Let me know, please.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Harry.
> > >
> > >
> > > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > You'll find (quickly) that you need a lot more than me.......I'm
just
> > one
> > > of
> > > > the elves that like to help the gurus when I can. The gurus are
what
> > make
> > > > this such a great NG!!
> > > > Heirloom, old and do what I can
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks so much, heirloom.
> > > > > I'll be on my way now. Must be getting old, or something.
> > > > > Should have known the connection to Internet Explorer.
> > > > > I am just mighty glad to have people like you so near to help with
> my
> > > > > computer problems.
> > > > > Thanks for being there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Harry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-US;oex
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Harry,
> > > > > > The above URL is the MS site for info on all things
> > > > OE........you
> > > > > > may find what you need there. BTW, I just went to the
Tomsterdam
> > > > > > site.....no probs.
> > > > > > Heirloom, old and too tired to ride
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think that's where I found out that the site is currently
> > > > unavailable,
> > > > > > > heirloom, the site where manual un- and reinstall of OE is
> > > explained.
> > > > > > > When all is said and done, evrything is going to be back to
> > normal,
> > > I
> > > > am
> > > > > > > sure of that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Harry.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > Harry,
> > > > > > > > I may be mistaken, but, I believe the Tomsterdam
site
> > goes
> > > > > into
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > process of uninstalling and reinstalling OE. If you don't
> find
> > it
> > > > > > first,
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > will do some checking when I have a chance and let you know.
> > > > > > > > Heirloom, old and been busy
today
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No need to be sorry, Joan.
> > > > > > > > > You have been quite helpful and the site you mention is
> almost
> > > > > > > > > indispensible.
> > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your contribution.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Harry.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > Sorry Harry can't help you there just that the subject
> line
> > is
> > > > one
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > have saved with Mike's answer, so you might have to wait
> for
> > > > > > Heirloom
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > get back or one of the gurus to help out. I suppose you
> > could
> > > > have
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > look
> > > > > > > > > > at the site below and see if there's anything there to
> help.
> > > > > > > > > > Joan
> > > > > > > > > > http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > webster72n wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Joan:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > As we talk about this subject, I am recalling to have
> done
> > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > before, except for backing up the OE data.
> > > > > > > > > > > How do you back up what doesn't show up?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Harry.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Joan Archer" > wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > >> See if anything here helps courtesy of MikeM.
> > > > > > > > > > >> Joan
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> There are a number of possibilities which include:
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> MS KB 296512 - "OLEXP: Error Message: Outlook Express
> > Could
> > > > Not
> > > > > > Be
> > > > > > > > > > >> Started Because Msoe.dll Could Not Be Loaded"
> > > > > > > > > > >> (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=296512) where the
> > > problem
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > due
> > > > > > > > > > >> to problems with the Address Book.
> > > > > > > > > > >> MS KB 272265 - "OLEXP: Error Message "Outlook Express
> > Could
> > > > Not
> > > > > > Be
> > > > > > > > > > >> Started Because MSOE.DLL Could Not Be Loaded" When
You
> > > Start
> > > > > > > Outlook
> > > > > > > > > > >> Express" (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=272265)
> > where
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >> problem is caused by mixed file versions
> > > > > > > > > > >> MS KB 232480 - "OLEXP: Error Message: Outlook Express
> > Could
> > > > Not
> > > > > > Be
> > > > > > > > > > >> Started Because MSOE.DLL Could Not Be Loaded"
> > > > > > > > > > >> (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=232480) where the
> > > > problem,
> > > > > > > > > > >> similar to the
> > > > > > > > > > >> one above, is due to uninstalling a later version of
> > IE/OE.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> In addition you may also want to look at the
following
> KB
> > > > > article
> > > > > > > > > > >> although the
> > > > > > > > > > >> error message here is slightly different in that it
> > > normally
> > > > > > reads
> > > > > > > > > > >> ""Outlook
> > > > > > > > > > >> Express could not be started because MSOE.DLL could
not
> > be
> > > > > > > > > > >> initialised" and
> > > > > > > > > > >> the problem here is due to the Identities key in the
> > > registry
> > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > > >> corrupted
> > > > > > > > > > >> in some way such 245419 - "OLEXP: You Receive an
Error
> > > > Message
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > Are
> > > > > > > > > > >> Unable
> > > > > > > > > > >> to Start Outlook Express"
> > > > > > > > > > >> (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=245419). --
> > > > > > > > > > >> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> webster72n wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>> heirloom:
> > > > > > > > > > >>> I reinstalled the address book, but the dialog box
> still
> > > > > > remains.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> I was able to download "msoe.dll" on a floppy disk.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> How do i get it where it's supposed to go?
> > > > > > > > > > >>> It seems to me that I had this trouble before and
> > somehow
> > > > > found
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > >>> way to resolve it. Just don't remember how or what I
> > did.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Do you have any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
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> >
>
>

[Rick T]

heirloom wrote:
> Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second machine
> set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that is
> the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not be
> available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I am
> not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read the
> mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and, even
> then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I think
> Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
> Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on the
> server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server.
> Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
> Heirloom, old and speculating

me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their
server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have
are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed).
That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
much space.

OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).

Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
program functionality.

[webster72n]

"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
> heirloom wrote:
> > Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second
machine
> > set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that
is
> > the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not
be
> > available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I
am
> > not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read
the
> > mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and,
even
> > then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I
think
> > Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
> > Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on
the
> > server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server.
> > Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
> > Heirloom, old and speculating
>
> me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their
> server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have
> are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed).
> That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
> much space.
>
> OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
> their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).
>
> Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
> webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
> program functionality.

No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's
help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if I am
putting this correctly.
When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let it
'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.

Thank you for your concern, Rick.

Harry.

[webster72n]

"heirloom" > wrote in message
...
> Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second machine
> set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that is
> the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not be
> available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I am
> not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read the
> mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and, even
> then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I think
> Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
> Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on the
> server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server.
> Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
> Heirloom, old and speculating
>
You are not confused at all, heirloom and I want
to thank you for all your efforts.
I think you are 'priceless'.

Harry.
>
> "webster72n" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > The issue is, that my email for Outlook Express for the most part gets
> > delivered to my backup pc, when I expect to find the same thing in both
> > computers, since they both have the same version of Outlook Express
(5.0)
> > or, at least
> > in my main computer with Windows ME, because I do all of my business
> there.
> > This is the case when it comes to News Groups, but not with my personal
> > mail. Could it be because I changed my
> > my ID not too long ago? Or is it just a matter of configuration?
> > What are your thoughts on that, heirloom?
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> >
> > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I'm not sure that I understand your issue with the email......are you
> > using
> > > two different addresses? My picture of the situation is that you
would
> > > fire up your Me machine and simply download your email........I am
sure
> I
> > > must be missing something. Please expound......
> > > Heirloom, old and glad I only have one to contend with
> > >
> > >
> > > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > heirloom,
> > > > My problem was solved a lot easier than thought.
> > > > I went to IESetup and chose to install Outlook Express.
> > > > It told me that all necessary components were already installed and
> > > whether
> > > > I wanted to reinstall anyway.
> > > > Of course I answered "yes" to that and - low and behold -
> > > > after automatic reboot I tried Outlook Express and it worked just
fine
> > > > again.
> > > > Hope to remember this time and maybe even help sombody else in
> trouble.
> > > > There is just one more thing:
> > > > I am running these two computers with the same Outlook Express
> version,
> > > but
> > > > Windows ME on my main and windows 98 on my backup computer.
> > > > But most of my eimail in Outlook Express goes to my backup pc, which
I
> > > don't
> > > > like.
> > > > Is there a way to fix this?
> > > > Or should I post this as a new subject?
> > > > Let me know, please.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Harry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > You'll find (quickly) that you need a lot more than me.......I'm
> just
> > > one
> > > > of
> > > > > the elves that like to help the gurus when I can. The gurus are
> what
> > > make
> > > > > this such a great NG!!
> > > > > Heirloom, old and do what I can
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks so much, heirloom.
> > > > > > I'll be on my way now. Must be getting old, or something.
> > > > > > Should have known the connection to Internet Explorer.
> > > > > > I am just mighty glad to have people like you so near to help
with
> > my
> > > > > > computer problems.
> > > > > > Thanks for being there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-US;oex
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey Harry,
> > > > > > > The above URL is the MS site for info on all things
> > > > > OE........you
> > > > > > > may find what you need there. BTW, I just went to the
> Tomsterdam
> > > > > > > site.....no probs.
> > > > > > > Heirloom, old and too tired to
ride
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think that's where I found out that the site is currently
> > > > > unavailable,
> > > > > > > > heirloom, the site where manual un- and reinstall of OE is
> > > > explained.
> > > > > > > > When all is said and done, evrything is going to be back to
> > > normal,
> > > > I
> > > > > am
> > > > > > > > sure of that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Harry.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > Harry,
> > > > > > > > > I may be mistaken, but, I believe the Tomsterdam
> site
> > > goes
> > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > process of uninstalling and reinstalling OE. If you don't
> > find
> > > it
> > > > > > > first,
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > will do some checking when I have a chance and let you
know.
> > > > > > > > > Heirloom, old and been busy
> today
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > No need to be sorry, Joan.
> > > > > > > > > > You have been quite helpful and the site you mention is
> > almost
> > > > > > > > > > indispensible.
> > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your contribution.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Harry.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Joan Archer" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > Sorry Harry can't help you there just that the subject
> > line
> > > is
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > have saved with Mike's answer, so you might have to
wait
> > for
> > > > > > > Heirloom
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > get back or one of the gurus to help out. I suppose
you
> > > could
> > > > > have
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > look
> > > > > > > > > > > at the site below and see if there's anything there to
> > help.
> > > > > > > > > > > Joan
> > > > > > > > > > > http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > webster72n wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Joan:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > As we talk about this subject, I am recalling to
have
> > done
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > before, except for backing up the OE data.
> > > > > > > > > > > > How do you back up what doesn't show up?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Harry.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Joan Archer" > wrote in
> message
> > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > >> See if anything here helps courtesy of MikeM.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Joan
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> There are a number of possibilities which include:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> MS KB 296512 - "OLEXP: Error Message: Outlook
Express
> > > Could
> > > > > Not
> > > > > > > Be
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Started Because Msoe.dll Could Not Be Loaded"
> > > > > > > > > > > >> (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=296512) where
the
> > > > problem
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > due
> > > > > > > > > > > >> to problems with the Address Book.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> MS KB 272265 - "OLEXP: Error Message "Outlook
Express
> > > Could
> > > > > Not
> > > > > > > Be
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Started Because MSOE.DLL Could Not Be Loaded" When
> You
> > > > Start
> > > > > > > > Outlook
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Express"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=272265)
> > > where
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> problem is caused by mixed file versions
> > > > > > > > > > > >> MS KB 232480 - "OLEXP: Error Message: Outlook
Express
> > > Could
> > > > > Not
> > > > > > > Be
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Started Because MSOE.DLL Could Not Be Loaded"
> > > > > > > > > > > >> (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=232480) where
the
> > > > > problem,
> > > > > > > > > > > >> similar to the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> one above, is due to uninstalling a later version
of
> > > IE/OE.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> In addition you may also want to look at the
> following
> > KB
> > > > > > article
> > > > > > > > > > > >> although the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> error message here is slightly different in that it
> > > > normally
> > > > > > > reads
> > > > > > > > > > > >> ""Outlook
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Express could not be started because MSOE.DLL could
> not
> > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > >> initialised" and
> > > > > > > > > > > >> the problem here is due to the Identities key in
the
> > > > registry
> > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > > > >> corrupted
> > > > > > > > > > > >> in some way such 245419 - "OLEXP: You Receive an
> Error
> > > > > Message
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > Are
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Unable
> > > > > > > > > > > >> to Start Outlook Express"
> > > > > > > > > > > >> (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=245419). --
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> webster72n wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> heirloom:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> I reinstalled the address book, but the dialog box
> > still
> > > > > > > remains.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> I was able to download "msoe.dll" on a floppy
disk.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> How do i get it where it's supposed to go?
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> It seems to me that I had this trouble before and
> > > somehow
> > > > > > found
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> way to resolve it. Just don't remember how or what
I
> > > did.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Do you have any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[webster72n]

"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> Harry,
>
> If using Outlook Express as your mail client and you wish to leave post on
> server for collection on another PC.
>
> Tools | Accounts | Mail, select account involved, Properties. Open the
> Advanced tab and check the box "Leave a copy of message on server". Note
that
> if you do this it is essential to put in place a mechanism to remove posts
> from the server otherwise your mail box will rapidly overflow. You can do
> that using the remove from server date options on the Advanced tab or by
> setting one of your PCs to be the "master" PC with that PC configured to
> remove post from server. So for example my laptop always leaves mail on
the
> server whereas this PC always deletes mail from server. Therefore any
mail
> downloaded to the laptop is always available for later downloading to this
PC
> whereas mail downloaded to this "master" PC is not available to me later
on
> the laptop.
> --
> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
>
>
>
> webster72n > wrote:
>
> > When you talk about email server and client, who are they?
> > Also, what do you mean by downloading the emails?
> > I was under the impression that they were "delivered" to the account,
even
> > when the computer is shut down.
> > That seems to be the case with Yahoo anyway.
> > Seemingly OE works differently.
> > Just keep talking to me, Noel, we'll get to the bottom of this, don't
you
> > think so?
>
>

[webster72n]

Mike, what would I do without you. Not to minimize what
heirloom, Noel and Rick are contibuting, but you have a way of detailing the
situation, so that it can be easily understood and followed.

It will be clear sailing from here on in with my OE.

Thanks.

Harry.



"Mike M" > wrote in message
...
> Harry,
>
> If using Outlook Express as your mail client and you wish to leave post on
> server for collection on another PC.
>
> Tools | Accounts | Mail, select account involved, Properties. Open the
> Advanced tab and check the box "Leave a copy of message on server". Note
that
> if you do this it is essential to put in place a mechanism to remove posts
> from the server otherwise your mail box will rapidly overflow. You can do
> that using the remove from server date options on the Advanced tab or by
> setting one of your PCs to be the "master" PC with that PC configured to
> remove post from server. So for example my laptop always leaves mail on
the
> server whereas this PC always deletes mail from server. Therefore any
mail
> downloaded to the laptop is always available for later downloading to this
PC
> whereas mail downloaded to this "master" PC is not available to me later
on
> the laptop.
> --
> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
>
>
>
> webster72n > wrote:
>
> > When you talk about email server and client, who are they?
> > Also, what do you mean by downloading the emails?
> > I was under the impression that they were "delivered" to the account,
even
> > when the computer is shut down.
> > That seems to be the case with Yahoo anyway.
> > Seemingly OE works differently.
> > Just keep talking to me, Noel, we'll get to the bottom of this, don't
you
> > think so?
>
>

[webster72n]

Noel, how can I go wrong with all this help?
Thank you so very much.

Harry



"Noel Paton" > wrote in message
...
> When the PC (the client) is shut down - nothing happens!
> When you fire it up and open OE, OE goes and searches your accounts, and
> downloads the emails from your ISP/mail host (the server), and (usually)
> deletes the emails from the server.
> With a webmail account like Yahoo/Hotmail - you're reading the email
direct
> off the server, bypassing OE, and the emails are usually left on the
server
> unless you specifically delete them - just marked as read.
> In all cases, email is delivered to the server 24/7 - but only downloaded
to
> your PC on demand
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> or
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
> "webster72n" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > When you talk about email server and client, who are they?
> > Also, what do you mean by downloading the emails?
> > I was under the impression that they were "delivered" to the account,
even
> > when the computer is shut down.
> > That seems to be the case with Yahoo anyway.
> > Seemingly OE works differently.
> > Just keep talking to me, Noel, we'll get to the bottom of this, don't
you
> > think so?
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > This is a hobby for me, rather than a job (but the situation is
subject
> to
> > > change - any offers?<g>)
> > >
> > > Most email clients operate on a first-come first-served basis - and as
> > such
> > > once you've downloaded emails to one PC they're gone from the server,
> > unless
> > > you specifically tell the server to retain a copy (there may be an
> option
> > to
> > > do this either in OE or on the server, depending on the type of email
> > > account you have)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> > > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> > >
> > > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> NG's
> > > or
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
> > > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > Boy, oh boy, Noel, you seem to have your hands full.
> > > > Do you handle this in your spare time or are you retired?
> > > > What do you think of my situation?
> > > > Shouldn't my email get delivered to both of my machines instead of
> just
> > > one?
> > > > It does with Yahoo. Why not with Outlook Express, too? Do you have
an
> > > idea,
> > > > Noel?
> > > > Let me know, if you do, please.
> > > >
> > > > Harry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Noel Paton" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > I should be so lucky - currently surrounded by 6 PC's in various
> > stages
> > > of
> > > > > disarray<VBG> with only this one fully functional.
> > > > > My second box has been dismembered to try and get XP to install on
> it
> > > > (went
> > > > > in OK last time, but kicks me out this time<sigh>)
> > > > > My third box is awaiting time for me to deal with it
> > > > > and the others are friends' machines here for fixing - one has
been
> > here
> > > > for
> > > > > three months as I try to solve an intermittent boot error!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)
> > > > >
> > > > > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > > > > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages
to
> > > NG's
> > > > > or
> > > > >
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2001/Mar01/Mar27pmvp.asp
> > > > > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > I'm not sure that I understand your issue with the
email......are
> > you
> > > > > using
> > > > > > two different addresses? My picture of the situation is that
you
> > > would
> > > > > > fire up your Me machine and simply download your email........I
am
> > > sure
> > > > I
> > > > > > must be missing something. Please expound......
> > > > > > Heirloom, old and glad I only have one to
contend
> > with
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > heirloom,
> > > > > > > My problem was solved a lot easier than thought.
> > > > > > > I went to IESetup and chose to install Outlook Express.
> > > > > > > It told me that all necessary components were already
installed
> > and
> > > > > > whether
> > > > > > > I wanted to reinstall anyway.
> > > > > > > Of course I answered "yes" to that and - low and behold -
> > > > > > > after automatic reboot I tried Outlook Express and it worked
> just
> > > fine
> > > > > > > again.
> > > > > > > Hope to remember this time and maybe even help sombody else in
> > > > trouble.
> > > > > > > There is just one more thing:
> > > > > > > I am running these two computers with the same Outlook Express
> > > > version,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > Windows ME on my main and windows 98 on my backup computer.
> > > > > > > But most of my eimail in Outlook Express goes to my backup pc,
> > which
> > > I
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > like.
> > > > > > > Is there a way to fix this?
> > > > > > > Or should I post this as a new subject?
> > > > > > > Let me know, please.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Harry.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > You'll find (quickly) that you need a lot more than
> me.......I'm
> > > > just
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the elves that like to help the gurus when I can. The gurus
> are
> > > > what
> > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > this such a great NG!!
> > > > > > > > Heirloom, old and do what I can
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks so much, heirloom.
> > > > > > > > > I'll be on my way now. Must be getting old, or something.
> > > > > > > > > Should have known the connection to Internet Explorer.
> > > > > > > > > I am just mighty glad to have people like you so near to
> help
> > > with
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > computer problems.
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for being there.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Harry.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > >
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-US;oex
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hey Harry,
> > > > > > > > > > The above URL is the MS site for info on all
> things
> > > > > > > > OE........you
> > > > > > > > > > may find what you need there. BTW, I just went to the
> > > > Tomsterdam
> > > > > > > > > > site.....no probs.
> > > > > > > > > > Heirloom, old and too tired
to
> > > ride
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I think that's where I found out that the site is
> > currently
> > > > > > > > unavailable,
> > > > > > > > > > > heirloom, the site where manual un- and reinstall of
OE
> is
> > > > > > > explained.
> > > > > > > > > > > When all is said and done, evrything is going to be
back
> > to
> > > > > > normal,
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > am
> > > > > > > > > > > sure of that.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Harry.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "heirloom" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > Harry,
> > > > > > > > > > > > I may be mistaken, but, I believe the
> Tomsterdam
> > > > site
> > > > > > goes
> > > > > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > process of uninstalling and reinstalling OE. If you
> > don't
> > > > > find
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > first,
> > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > will do some checking when I have a chance and let
you
> > > know.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Heirloom, old and been
> busy
> > > > today
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "webster72n" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to be sorry, Joan.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You have been quite helpful and the site you
mention
> > is
> > > > > almost
> > > > > > > > > > > > > indispensible.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your contribution.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Harry.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joan Archer" > wrote in
> > message
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry Harry can't help you there just that the
> > subject
> > > > > line
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have saved with Mike's answer, so you might have
> to
> > > wait
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > Heirloom
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > get back or one of the gurus to help out. I
> suppose
> > > you
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > look
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the site below and see if there's anything
> there
> > to
> > > > > help.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/tips/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > webster72n wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joan:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we talk about this subject, I am recalling
to
> > > have
> > > > > done
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before, except for backing up the OE data.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you back up what doesn't show up?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harry.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Joan Archer" > wrote
in
> > > > message
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> See if anything here helps courtesy of MikeM.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Joan
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> There are a number of possibilities which
> > include:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> MS KB 296512 - "OLEXP: Error Message: Outlook
> > > Express
> > > > > > Could
> > > > > > > > Not
> > > > > > > > > > Be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Started Because Msoe.dll Could Not Be Loaded"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=296512)
> where
> > > the
> > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > due
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> to problems with the Address Book.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> MS KB 272265 - "OLEXP: Error Message "Outlook
> > > Express
> > > > > > Could
> > > > > > > > Not
> > > > > > > > > > Be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Started Because MSOE.DLL Could Not Be Loaded"
> Whe
> > n
> > > > You
> > > > > > > Start
> > > > > > > > > > > Outlook
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Express"
> > > (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=272265)
> > > > > > where
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> problem is caused by mixed file versions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> MS KB 232480 - "OLEXP: Error Message: Outlook
> > > Express
> > > > > > Could
> > > > > > > > Not
> > > > > > > > > > Be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Started Because MSOE.DLL Could Not Be Loaded"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=232480)
> where
> > > the
> > > > > > > > problem,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> similar to the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> one above, is due to uninstalling a later
> version
> > > of
> > > > > > IE/OE.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> In addition you may also want to look at the
> > > > following
> > > > > KB
> > > > > > > > > article
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> although the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> error message here is slightly different in
> that
> > it
> > > > > > > normally
> > > > > > > > > > reads
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ""Outlook
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Express could not be started because MSOE.DLL
> > could
> > > > not
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> initialised" and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the problem here is due to the Identities key
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > > registry
> > > > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> corrupted
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> in some way such 245419 - "OLEXP: You Receive
> an
> > > > Error
> > > > > > > > Message
> > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > Are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Unable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> to Start Outlook Express"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=245419). --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> webster72n wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> heirloom:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I reinstalled the address book, but the
dialog
> > box
> > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > remains.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I was able to download "msoe.dll" on a
floppy
> > > disk.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> How do i get it where it's supposed to go?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> It seems to me that I had this trouble
before
> > and
> > > > > > somehow
> > > > > > > > > found
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> way to resolve it. Just don't remember how
or
> > what
> > > I
> > > > > > did.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Do you have any suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Mike M]

Harry,

I just hope my post made some sense and you understood what I was trying to
say. I have a number of networked PCs here (4 plus laptop) and my daughters
two at their apartment. All three of us have our mail accounts set up on all
of these PCs but each has one PC that we have designated as our master PC.
This means that any of us can collect and read new mail at which ever of the
various PCs we are using but for each of us there is one PC that has all of
our mail. The only problem is the occasion when one is using a PC other than
one's own "master" and one wants to check an old e-mail and it isn't on the
machine one is using but at least we always know which machine will definitely
have all of our respective e-mails.

BTYW when configuring a mail account in Outlook Express by default it is set
to remove mail from server.

Regards,
--
Mike M


webster72n > wrote:

> Mike, what would I do without you. Not to minimize what
> heirloom, Noel and Rick are contibuting, but you have a way of detailing
> the situation, so that it can be easily understood and followed.
>
> It will be clear sailing from here on in with my OE.

[Rick T]

webster72n wrote:

> "Rick T" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>heirloom wrote:
>>
>>>Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second
>
> machine
>
>>>set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that
>
> is
>
>>>the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not
>
> be
>
>>>available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I
>
> am
>
>>>not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read
>
> the
>
>>>mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and,
>
> even
>
>>>then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I
>
> think
>
>>>Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
>>>Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on
>
> the
>
>>>server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the server.
>>>Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
>>> Heirloom, old and speculating
>>
>>me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their
>>server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have
>>are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed).
>>That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
>>much space.
>>
>>OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
>>their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).
>>
>>Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
>>webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
>>program functionality.
>
>
> No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's
> help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if I am
> putting this correctly.
> When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let it
> 'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
> Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.
>
> Thank you for your concern, Rick.
>
> Harry.

Well, hope you got it worked out.


Rick

[webster72n]

Rick:
Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What are
they, for example?
Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.

Harry.

"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
> webster72n wrote:
>
> > "Rick T" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>heirloom wrote:
> >>
> >>>Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second
> >
> > machine
> >
> >>>set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that
> >
> > is
> >
> >>>the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not
> >
> > be
> >
> >>>available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I
> >
> > am
> >
> >>>not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and,
> >
> > even
> >
> >>>then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I
> >
> > think
> >
> >>>Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
> >>>Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the
server.
> >>>Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
> >>> Heirloom, old and speculating
> >>
> >>me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their
> >>server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have
> >>are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed).
> >>That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
> >>much space.
> >>
> >>OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
> >>their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).
> >>
> >>Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
> >>webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
> >>program functionality.
> >
> >
> > No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's
> > help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if
I am
> > putting this correctly.
> > When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let
it
> > 'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
> > Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.
> >
> > Thank you for your concern, Rick.
> >
> > Harry.
>
> Well, hope you got it worked out.
>
>
> Rick

[Rick T]

webster72n wrote:

> Rick:
> Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
> those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What are
> they, for example?
> Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.

I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook
Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC),
for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
update it.

I doubt you'd have one and not know it.

Rick



>
> Harry.
>
> "Rick T" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>webster72n wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>heirloom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second
>>>
>>>machine
>>>
>>>
>>>>>set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If that
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would not
>>>
>>>be
>>>
>>>
>>>>>available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if I
>>>
>>>am
>>>
>>>
>>>>>not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you read
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and,
>>>
>>>even
>>>
>>>
>>>>>then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I
>>>
>>>think
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
>>>>>Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the
>
> server.
>
>>>>>Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
>>>>> Heirloom, old and speculating
>>>>
>>>>me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on their
>>>>server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have
>>>>are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed).
>>>>That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
>>>>much space.
>>>>
>>>>OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
>>>>their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).
>>>>
>>>>Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
>>>>webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
>>>>program functionality.
>>>
>>>
>>>No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with everyone's
>>>help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if
>
> I am
>
>>>putting this correctly.
>>>When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let
>
> it
>
>>>'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
>>>Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.
>>>
>>>Thank you for your concern, Rick.
>>>
>>>Harry.
>>
>>Well, hope you got it worked out.
>>
>>
>>Rick
>
>
>

[webster72n]

Rick:
Is 'Pegasus' one of them?
I used that program for awhile in the past, but have uninstalled it since.
Otherwise the situation you describe doesn't pertain to me.
Tanks.

Harry.




"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
> webster72n wrote:
>
> > Rick:
> > Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
> > those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What
are
> > they, for example?
> > Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.
>
> I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook
> Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC),
> for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
> through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
> Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
> third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
> (normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
> mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
> update it.
>
> I doubt you'd have one and not know it.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> > "Rick T" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>webster72n wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>heirloom wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second
> >>>
> >>>machine
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If
that
> >>>
> >>>is
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would
not
> >>>
> >>>be
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if
I
> >>>
> >>>am
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you
read
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and,
> >>>
> >>>even
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I
> >>>
> >>>think
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
> >>>>>Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the
> >
> > server.
> >
> >>>>>Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
> >>>>> Heirloom, old and speculating
> >>>>
> >>>>me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on
their
> >>>>server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have
> >>>>are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed).
> >>>>That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
> >>>>much space.
> >>>>
> >>>>OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
> >>>>their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).
> >>>>
> >>>>Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
> >>>>webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
> >>>>program functionality.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with
everyone's
> >>>help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if
> >
> > I am
> >
> >>>putting this correctly.
> >>>When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let
> >
> > it
> >
> >>>'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
> >>>Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.
> >>>
> >>>Thank you for your concern, Rick.
> >>>
> >>>Harry.
> >>
> >>Well, hope you got it worked out.
> >>
> >>
> >>Rick
> >
> >
> >

[webster72n]

One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick:
Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs,
both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled
I can't click on them in order to make them default.
Why is that?

Harry.




"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
> webster72n wrote:
>
> > Rick:
> > Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
> > those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What
are
> > they, for example?
> > Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.
>
> I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook
> Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC),
> for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
> through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
> Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
> third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
> (normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
> mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
> update it.
>
> I doubt you'd have one and not know it.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> > "Rick T" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>webster72n wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>heirloom wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second
> >>>
> >>>machine
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If
that
> >>>
> >>>is
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would
not
> >>>
> >>>be
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if
I
> >>>
> >>>am
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you
read
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and,
> >>>
> >>>even
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I
> >>>
> >>>think
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
> >>>>>Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on
> >>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the
> >
> > server.
> >
> >>>>>Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
> >>>>> Heirloom, old and speculating
> >>>>
> >>>>me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on
their
> >>>>server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have
> >>>>are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed).
> >>>>That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
> >>>>much space.
> >>>>
> >>>>OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
> >>>>their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).
> >>>>
> >>>>Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
> >>>>webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
> >>>>program functionality.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with
everyone's
> >>>help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if
> >
> > I am
> >
> >>>putting this correctly.
> >>>When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let
> >
> > it
> >
> >>>'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
> >>>Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.
> >>>
> >>>Thank you for your concern, Rick.
> >>>
> >>>Harry.
> >>
> >>Well, hope you got it worked out.
> >>
> >>
> >>Rick
> >
> >
> >

[Rick T]

Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed
to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on
the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs
make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't.

Rick


webster72n wrote:
> One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick:
> Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs,
> both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled
> I can't click on them in order to make them default.
> Why is that?
>
> Harry.
>
>
>
>
> "Rick T" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>webster72n wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Rick:
>>>Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
>>>those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What
>
> are
>
>>>they, for example?
>>>Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.
>>
>>I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook
>>Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC),
>>for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
>>through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
>>Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
>>third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
>>(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
>>mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
>>update it.
>>
>>I doubt you'd have one and not know it.
>>
>>Rick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Harry.
>>>
>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>heirloom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second
>>>>>
>>>>>machine
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If
>
> that
>
>>>>>is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would
>
> not
>
>>>>>be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail, if
>
> I
>
>>>>>am
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you
>
> read
>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it and,
>>>>>
>>>>>even
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I
>>>>>
>>>>>think
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
>>>>>>>Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail on
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the
>>>
>>>server.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
>>>>>>> Heirloom, old and speculating
>>>>>>
>>>>>>me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on
>
> their
>
>>>>>>server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I have
>>>>>>are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets flushed).
>>>>>>That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
>>>>>>much space.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
>>>>>>their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
>>>>>>webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
>>>>>>program functionality.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with
>
> everyone's
>
>>>>>help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration, if
>>>
>>>I am
>>>
>>>
>>>>>putting this correctly.
>>>>>When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained, let
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>
>>>>>'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
>>>>>Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you for your concern, Rick.
>>>>>
>>>>>Harry.
>>>>
>>>>Well, hope you got it worked out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

[webster72n]

Thanks, Rick, my confusion, if present, has subsided.
But what about the 'mailhandler' issue?
Do you have an idea why those two buttons are disabled?
And, if so, why are they there?

Harry.


"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
> Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed
> to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on
> the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs
> make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't.
>
> Rick
>
>
> webster72n wrote:
> > One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick:
> > Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs,
> > both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled
> > I can't click on them in order to make them default.
> > Why is that?
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Rick T" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>webster72n wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Rick:
> >>>Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
> >>>those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What
> >
> > are
> >
> >>>they, for example?
> >>>Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.
> >>
> >>I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook
> >>Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC),
> >>for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
> >>through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
> >>Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
> >>third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
> >>(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
> >>mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
> >>update it.
> >>
> >>I doubt you'd have one and not know it.
> >>
> >>Rick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Harry.
> >>>
> >>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>webster72n wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>heirloom wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second
> >>>>>
> >>>>>machine
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If
> >
> > that
> >
> >>>>>is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would
> >
> > not
> >
> >>>>>be
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail,
if
> >
> > I
> >
> >>>>>am
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you
> >
> > read
> >
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it
and,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>even
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>think
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
> >>>>>>>Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail
on
> >>>>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the
> >>>
> >>>server.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
> >>>>>>> Heirloom, old and speculating
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on
> >
> > their
> >
> >>>>>>server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I
have
> >>>>>>are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets
flushed).
> >>>>>>That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
> >>>>>>much space.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
> >>>>>>their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
> >>>>>>webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
> >>>>>>program functionality.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with
> >
> > everyone's
> >
> >>>>>help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration,
if
> >>>
> >>>I am
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>putting this correctly.
> >>>>>When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained,
let
> >>>
> >>>it
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
> >>>>>Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thank you for your concern, Rick.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Harry.
> >>>>
> >>>>Well, hope you got it worked out.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Rick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >

[Rick T]

Please refer to the first line of my previous post.

Possibly a reference to MSN messenger? or maybe a stub for one of the
webmail-handling proggies (msn & hotmail?). I'm mostly guessing (I dont
have OE installed)

:)


webster72n wrote:
> Thanks, Rick, my confusion, if present, has subsided.
> But what about the 'mailhandler' issue?
> Do you have an idea why those two buttons are disabled?
> And, if so, why are they there?
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Rick T" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed
>>to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on
>>the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs
>>make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't.
>>
>>Rick
>>
>>
>>webster72n wrote:
>>
>>>One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick:
>>>Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs,
>>>both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled
>>>I can't click on them in order to make them default.
>>>Why is that?
>>>
>>>Harry.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Rick:
>>>>>Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
>>>>>those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What
>>>
>>>are
>>>
>>>
>>>>>they, for example?
>>>>>Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.
>>>>
>>>>I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into Outlook
>>>>Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo (IIRC),
>>>>for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
>>>>through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
>>>>Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
>>>>third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
>>>>(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
>>>>mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
>>>>update it.
>>>>
>>>>I doubt you'd have one and not know it.
>>>>
>>>>Rick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Harry.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>heirloom wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the second
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>machine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>set to automatically check for email and download it if there. If
>>>
>>>that
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it would
>>>
>>>not
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail,
>
> if
>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>am
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you
>>>
>>>read
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it
>
> and,
>
>>>>>>>even
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out. I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
>>>>>>>>>Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the mail
>
> on
>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the
>>>>>
>>>>>server.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
>>>>>>>>> Heirloom, old and speculating
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on
>>>
>>>their
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I
>
> have
>
>>>>>>>>are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets
>
> flushed).
>
>>>>>>>>That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up too
>>>>>>>>much space.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff on
>>>>>>>>their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
>>>>>>>>webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
>>>>>>>>program functionality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with
>>>
>>>everyone's
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of configuration,
>
> if
>
>>>>>I am
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>putting this correctly.
>>>>>>>When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained,
>
> let
>
>>>>>it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
>>>>>>>Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank you for your concern, Rick.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Harry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, hope you got it worked out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
>

[webster72n]

What does that tell you about my reading the entire post?
By looking for specific details in an answer I must be overlooking the
important ones. My apologies, Rick.
You probably are right and, henceforth, it most likely
doesn't matter much, or at all.
Let' consider this the conclusion of the subject.

Thank you for hanging in there with me.

Harry.



"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
> Please refer to the first line of my previous post.
>
> Possibly a reference to MSN messenger? or maybe a stub for one of the
> webmail-handling proggies (msn & hotmail?). I'm mostly guessing (I dont
> have OE installed)
>
> :)
>
>
> webster72n wrote:
> > Thanks, Rick, my confusion, if present, has subsided.
> > But what about the 'mailhandler' issue?
> > Do you have an idea why those two buttons are disabled?
> > And, if so, why are they there?
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Rick T" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed
> >>to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on
> >>the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs
> >>make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't.
> >>
> >>Rick
> >>
> >>
> >>webster72n wrote:
> >>
> >>>One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick:
> >>>Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs,
> >>>both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled
> >>>I can't click on them in order to make them default.
> >>>Why is that?
> >>>
> >>>Harry.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>webster72n wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Rick:
> >>>>>Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
> >>>>>those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What
> >>>
> >>>are
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>they, for example?
> >>>>>Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.
> >>>>
> >>>>I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into
Outlook
> >>>>Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo
(IIRC),
> >>>>for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
> >>>>through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
> >>>>Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
> >>>>third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
> >>>>(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
> >>>>mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
> >>>>update it.
> >>>>
> >>>>I doubt you'd have one and not know it.
> >>>>
> >>>>Rick
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Harry.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>webster72n wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>heirloom wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the
second
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>machine
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>set to automatically check for email and download it if there.
If
> >>>
> >>>that
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>is
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it
would
> >>>
> >>>not
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>be
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail,
> >
> > if
> >
> >>>I
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>am
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you
> >>>
> >>>read
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it
> >
> > and,
> >
> >>>>>>>even
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out.
I
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>think
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
> >>>>>>>>>Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the
mail
> >
> > on
> >
> >>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>server.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
> >>>>>>>>> Heirloom, old and speculating
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on
> >>>
> >>>their
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I
> >
> > have
> >
> >>>>>>>>are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets
> >
> > flushed).
> >
> >>>>>>>>That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up
too
> >>>>>>>>much space.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff
on
> >>>>>>>>their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
> >>>>>>>>webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
> >>>>>>>>program functionality.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with
> >>>
> >>>everyone's
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of
configuration,
> >
> > if
> >
> >>>>>I am
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>putting this correctly.
> >>>>>>>When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained,
> >
> > let
> >
> >>>>>it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
> >>>>>>>Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thank you for your concern, Rick.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Harry.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Well, hope you got it worked out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Rick
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >

[Rick T]

webster72n wrote:

> What does that tell you about my reading the entire post?
> By looking for specific details in an answer I must be overlooking the
> important ones. My apologies, Rick.
> You probably are right and, henceforth, it most likely
> doesn't matter much, or at all.
> Let' consider this the conclusion of the subject.
>
> Thank you for hanging in there with me.
>
> Harry.

Now that you mention it I vaguely recall something about built-ins for
OE for MSN & maybe Hotmail, but my brain is just a lump of vanilla
pudding between my ears today, so no help there.

Rick



>
>
>
> "Rick T" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Please refer to the first line of my previous post.
>>
>>Possibly a reference to MSN messenger? or maybe a stub for one of the
>>webmail-handling proggies (msn & hotmail?). I'm mostly guessing (I dont
>>have OE installed)
>>
>>:)
>>
>>
>>webster72n wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks, Rick, my confusion, if present, has subsided.
>>>But what about the 'mailhandler' issue?
>>>Do you have an idea why those two buttons are disabled?
>>>And, if so, why are they there?
>>>
>>>Harry.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Way out of my depth here, dude, I just mentioned it because you seemed
>>>>to be confused as to why the webmail account seemed to keep messages on
>>>>the server whereas the smtp one didn't, and the "webmail to OE" programs
>>>>make them look like they're the same thing, which they aren't.
>>>>
>>>>Rick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>One more thing I forgot to mention, Rick:
>>>>>Under Tools/Options/Default Messaging Programs,
>>>>>both, mail and news mailhanler buttons seem to be disabled
>>>>>I can't click on them in order to make them default.
>>>>>Why is that?
>>>>>
>>>>>Harry.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rick:
>>>>>>>Reading over this post, I was having second thoughts about
>>>>>>>those programs, which will allow you to view webmail through OE. What
>>>>>
>>>>>are
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>they, for example?
>>>>>>>Maybe it is better for me to make sure I don't have any.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't use them, they just take web-based email and put it into
>
> Outlook
>
>>>>>>Express (or occasionally other mail programs). The one for Yahoo
>
> (IIRC),
>
>>>>>>for instance can get email and put it into a .dbx, but you can't post
>>>>>>through it, and I believe you still have to manage the mail that's on
>>>>>>Yahoo's server through the web-based interface. Most of them are
>>>>>>third-party programs (since of course Yahoo, et al. have payfer smtp
>>>>>>(normal) mail services as well) and of course every time the web-based
>>>>>>mail changes it's program slightly, there goes the program until they
>>>>>>update it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I doubt you'd have one and not know it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Harry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Rick T" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>heirloom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Just a guess, but, I think that you may have your OE on the
>
> second
>
>>>>>>>>>machine
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>set to automatically check for email and download it if there.
>
> If
>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>the case, then it would have the mail from the server and it
>
> would
>
>>>>>not
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>available to the other machine. In the case of the Yahoo! mail,
>>>
>>>if
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>am
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>not mistaken, this is a Web based mail server and even though you
>>>>>
>>>>>read
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>mail, it remains on the server unless you specifically delete it
>>>
>>>and,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>even
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>then, it remains in the "trash" folder until you clean that out.
>
> I
>
>>>>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Noel, Mike or both, kinda covered that.
>>>>>>>>>>>Basically, with the Yahoo! mail, you are simply 'reading' the
>
> mail
>
>>>on
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>server....the other mail is actually being downloaded off of the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Does that make sense?......I know I am confused!
>>>>>>>>>>> Heirloom, old and speculating
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>me 2, I use Yahoo web-based mail service... my mail stays there on
>>>>>
>>>>>their
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>server and every once in awhile I look at it. Any "copies" that I
>>>
>>>have
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>are just webpages in my browser-cache (which eventually gets
>>>
>>>flushed).
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>That's why, after awhile, you get a warning that you're using up
>
> too
>
>>>>>>>>>>much space.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>OTOH, when you use OE, the mail-server you use deletes the stuff
>
> on
>
>>>>>>>>>>their end after OE picks it up (which is what you said, Heirloom).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Harry, are you using one of those programs which allow you to view
>>>>>>>>>>webmail through OE ? They're sortof flaky and don't give full Mail
>>>>>>>>>>program functionality.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>No Rick, I don't, but I think that I have it figured out with
>>>>>
>>>>>everyone's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>help. It is what I suspected it it to be, a matter of
>
> configuration,
>
>>>if
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>I am
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>putting this correctly.
>>>>>>>>>When I set up my backup's OE I must have done what Mike explained,
>>>
>>>let
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>'remove post from server', without thinking of the consequences.
>>>>>>>>>Now I will be able to fix this situation 'in a hurry'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thank you for your concern, Rick.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Harry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well, hope you got it worked out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>
>