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LuckyStrike
June 5th 04, 03:56 AM
I can see maybe removing some elements in small degrees...those which seems
"harmless"; but to delete the entire lot of contents within the user folder
of C:\Windows\Profiles seems ....um...risky to me with my limited knowledge.

On one occasion I booted up as per usual, and then was asked for a password
which ordinarily wasn't necessary. so I did the first step of that MSKB
article to restore the PC to the usual Windows Log-on process, by disabling
the User Profiles. Then It was fine, and I left it at that. I'll let things
sit for a few days and see what builds up in the S-SD folder.

As per usual, thanks PCR. And another thing: you don't "go out" often
enough to need Spybot. Just sit back and enjoy your rocking chair and a cool
glass of lemonade. =-D

LS
--------------------------
"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> Well, there is article on how to remove the Profile. I've never done it
> that way. The warning is... You will LOSE ALL files & settings that
> attach to the Profile, when it is removed...
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
> How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
>
> ...So, you must copy/move them to safety first. I know little/nothing
> more, except the stuff is probably all in that "C:\Windows\Profiles"
> folder.
>
> As far as SpyBot, I'm just not sure I want it back.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>

PCR
June 5th 04, 07:38 PM
I see. You did the "disable" but not the "remove". So, you clicked, "All
users of this PC use the same preferences and desktop.", but you did not
delete that Registry key or the Profiles\ folder. Could be-- EVERYTHING
that applies to Profiles will happen TWICE now, once inside & once
outside that folder. But I really don't know. Do a run of SpyBot, &
check the dates of it's two sets of files. It probably isn't SpyBot's
fault, though, if indeed you get two, but just the way Windows works. If
you get only one, I guess it's going to the Default Profile and not to
Profiles\.

I wonder what is in that folder...

1. "START, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt"
2. DIR /s /a /on C:\Windows\Profiles
3. Use the "MARK", outline with mouse, "COPY" button to post it.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" m>
wrote in message ...
| I can see maybe removing some elements in small degrees...those which
seems
| "harmless"; but to delete the entire lot of contents within the user
folder
| of C:\Windows\Profiles seems ....um...risky to me with my limited
knowledge.
|
| On one occasion I booted up as per usual, and then was asked for a
password
| which ordinarily wasn't necessary. so I did the first step of that
MSKB
| article to restore the PC to the usual Windows Log-on process, by
disabling
| the User Profiles. Then It was fine, and I left it at that. I'll let
things
| sit for a few days and see what builds up in the S-SD folder.
|
| As per usual, thanks PCR. And another thing: you don't "go out" often
| enough to need Spybot. Just sit back and enjoy your rocking chair and
a cool
| glass of lemonade. =-D
|
| LS
| --------------------------
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Well, there is article on how to remove the Profile. I've never done
it
| > that way. The warning is... You will LOSE ALL files & settings that
| > attach to the Profile, when it is removed...
| >
| > http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
| > How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
| >
| > ...So, you must copy/move them to safety first. I know
little/nothing
| > more, except the stuff is probably all in that "C:\Windows\Profiles"
| > folder.
| >
| > As far as SpyBot, I'm just not sure I want it back.
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
|
|
|
|
|

LuckyStrike
June 6th 04, 01:57 AM
That's right...All users use same preferences and desktop; and I didn't
"Remove" anything, anywhere.

How much of that do you want to see? I had to do a DIR /s /a /on
C:\Windows\Profiles | more
because there were so many DOS "pages".

LS
--------------
"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> I see. You did the "disable" but not the "remove". So, you clicked, "All
> users of this PC use the same preferences and desktop.", but you did not
> delete that Registry key or the Profiles\ folder. Could be-- EVERYTHING
> that applies to Profiles will happen TWICE now, once inside & once
> outside that folder. But I really don't know. Do a run of SpyBot, &
> check the dates of it's two sets of files. It probably isn't SpyBot's
> fault, though, if indeed you get two, but just the way Windows works. If
> you get only one, I guess it's going to the Default Profile and not to
> Profiles\.
>
> I wonder what is in that folder...
>
> 1. "START, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt"
> 2. DIR /s /a /on C:\Windows\Profiles
> 3. Use the "MARK", outline with mouse, "COPY" button to post it.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "LuckyStrike" wrote in message
...
> | <snip> On one occasion I booted up as per usual, and then was asked for
a
> password
> | which ordinarily wasn't necessary. so I did the first step of that
> MSKB
> | article to restore the PC to the usual Windows Log-on process, by
> disabling
> | the User Profiles. Then It was fine, and I left it at that. I'll let
> things
> | sit for a few days and see what builds up in the S-SD folder.
> |<snip>
> | LS
> | --------------------------
> | "PCR" wrote:
> | > Well, there is article on how to remove the Profile. I've never done
> it
> | > that way. The warning is... You will LOSE ALL files & settings that
> | > attach to the Profile, when it is removed...
> | >
> | > http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
> | > How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
> | >
> | > ...So, you must copy/move them to safety first. I know
> little/nothing
> | > more, except the stuff is probably all in that "C:\Windows\Profiles"
> | > folder.
> | >
> | > As far as SpyBot, I'm just not sure I want it back.
> | >
> | > --
> | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > should things get worse after this,
> | > PCR
> | >
> |

PCR
June 6th 04, 07:01 PM
I didn't think it would be that much. How about just...?...
DIR /s /ad /on C:\Windows\Profiles

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" m>
wrote in message ...
| That's right...All users use same preferences and desktop; and I
didn't
| "Remove" anything, anywhere.
|
| How much of that do you want to see? I had to do a DIR /s /a /on
| C:\Windows\Profiles | more
| because there were so many DOS "pages".
|
| LS
| --------------
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > I see. You did the "disable" but not the "remove". So, you clicked,
"All
| > users of this PC use the same preferences and desktop.", but you did
not
| > delete that Registry key or the Profiles\ folder. Could be--
EVERYTHING
| > that applies to Profiles will happen TWICE now, once inside & once
| > outside that folder. But I really don't know. Do a run of SpyBot, &
| > check the dates of it's two sets of files. It probably isn't
SpyBot's
| > fault, though, if indeed you get two, but just the way Windows
works. If
| > you get only one, I guess it's going to the Default Profile and not
to
| > Profiles\.
| >
| > I wonder what is in that folder...
| >
| > 1. "START, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt"
| > 2. DIR /s /a /on C:\Windows\Profiles
| > 3. Use the "MARK", outline with mouse, "COPY" button to post it.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "LuckyStrike" wrote in message
| ...
| > | <snip> On one occasion I booted up as per usual, and then was
asked for
| a
| > password
| > | which ordinarily wasn't necessary. so I did the first step of that
| > MSKB
| > | article to restore the PC to the usual Windows Log-on process, by
| > disabling
| > | the User Profiles. Then It was fine, and I left it at that. I'll
let
| > things
| > | sit for a few days and see what builds up in the S-SD folder.
| > |<snip>
| > | LS
| > | --------------------------
| > | "PCR" wrote:
| > | > Well, there is article on how to remove the Profile. I've never
done
| > it
| > | > that way. The warning is... You will LOSE ALL files & settings
that
| > | > attach to the Profile, when it is removed...
| > | >
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
| > | > How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
| > | >
| > | > ...So, you must copy/move them to safety first. I know
| > little/nothing
| > | > more, except the stuff is probably all in that
"C:\Windows\Profiles"
| > | > folder.
| > | >
| > | > As far as SpyBot, I'm just not sure I want it back.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | >
| > |
|
|

LuckyStrike
June 6th 04, 08:51 PM
Uh -uh...94 clicks of " | more". :-(

Meanwhile, I removed everything log related (checks, fixes, logs) except for
the Logs folder in C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data\Spybot - Search
& Destroy\Logs. Then I did a search for update and a full Spybot scan....
Nothing new was created in that folder.

LS
---------------
"PCR" wrote:
> I didn't think it would be that much. How about just...?...
> DIR /s /ad /on C:\Windows\Profiles
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "LuckyStrike" wrote:
> | That's right...All users use same preferences and desktop; and I
> didn't
> | "Remove" anything, anywhere.
> |
> | How much of that do you want to see? I had to do a DIR /s /a /on
> | C:\Windows\Profiles | more
> | because there were so many DOS "pages".
> |
> | LS
> | --------------
> | "PCR" wrote:
> | > I see. You did the "disable" but not the "remove". So, you clicked,
> "All
> | > users of this PC use the same preferences and desktop.", but you did
> not
> | > delete that Registry key or the Profiles\ folder. Could be--
> EVERYTHING
> | > that applies to Profiles will happen TWICE now, once inside & once
> | > outside that folder. But I really don't know. Do a run of SpyBot, &
> | > check the dates of it's two sets of files. It probably isn't
> SpyBot's
> | > fault, though, if indeed you get two, but just the way Windows
> works. If
> | > you get only one, I guess it's going to the Default Profile and not
> to
> | > Profiles\.
> | >
> | > I wonder what is in that folder...
> | >
> | > 1. "START, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt"
> | > 2. DIR /s /a /on C:\Windows\Profiles
> | > 3. Use the "MARK", outline with mouse, "COPY" button to post it.
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > should things get worse after this,
> | > PCR
> | >

PCR
June 7th 04, 06:30 AM
94 clicks JUST for directories! My God!! What on earth could be in
there!?! (Well, I'm sure I wouldn't know what to do with them, anyhow--
not THAT many!)

That's interesting SpyBot didn't put new .logs in there, but what
version did you run? I guess it's the new one, because v1.2 wasn't
updating any more. Did it put a new log into the other (Default) folder,
uh, "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data"? What are your settings for the .logs?

Could be nothing new will go to the Profiles folder, then, because you
disabled it. (But I don't know how that works.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" m>
wrote in message ...
| Uh -uh...94 clicks of " | more". :-(
|
| Meanwhile, I removed everything log related (checks, fixes, logs)
except for
| the Logs folder in C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data\Spybot -
Search
| & Destroy\Logs. Then I did a search for update and a full Spybot
scan....
| Nothing new was created in that folder.
|
| LS
| ---------------
| "PCR" wrote:
| > I didn't think it would be that much. How about just...?...
| > DIR /s /ad /on C:\Windows\Profiles
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "LuckyStrike" wrote:
| > | That's right...All users use same preferences and desktop; and I
| > didn't
| > | "Remove" anything, anywhere.
| > |
| > | How much of that do you want to see? I had to do a DIR /s /a
/on
| > | C:\Windows\Profiles | more
| > | because there were so many DOS "pages".
| > |
| > | LS
| > | --------------
| > | "PCR" wrote:
| > | > I see. You did the "disable" but not the "remove". So, you
clicked,
| > "All
| > | > users of this PC use the same preferences and desktop.", but you
did
| > not
| > | > delete that Registry key or the Profiles\ folder. Could be--
| > EVERYTHING
| > | > that applies to Profiles will happen TWICE now, once inside &
once
| > | > outside that folder. But I really don't know. Do a run of
SpyBot, &
| > | > check the dates of it's two sets of files. It probably isn't
| > SpyBot's
| > | > fault, though, if indeed you get two, but just the way Windows
| > works. If
| > | > you get only one, I guess it's going to the Default Profile and
not
| > to
| > | > Profiles\.
| > | >
| > | > I wonder what is in that folder...
| > | >
| > | > 1. "START, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt"
| > | > 2. DIR /s /a /on C:\Windows\Profiles
| > | > 3. Use the "MARK", outline with mouse, "COPY" button to post it.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | >
|
|

LuckyStrike
June 8th 04, 09:47 PM
Yeah, I'm still in there "chopping and cutting". So, when I have it to a
manageable size I'll let you know. It'll still be large. Basically they have
the following:
C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data (207 folders - 1,004 files - 231
MB) has 13 folders and some 8 sundry files.
Folders include:
ACD Systems (6 folders -64 files -23.1 MB),
Adobe (11 folders -11 files - 3.13 MB)
AdobeUM (empty)
CoreCodec (1 folder -19 files. Thought I had gotten rid of that.. Well, I
did now) ;-))
Google (1 folder -empty)
Identities (24 folders - 145 files - 191 MB)
InterTrust (1 folder -empty)
Macromedia (8 folders -4 files - 636 bytes)
Microsoft (116 folders -568 files - 11.9 MB)
PestPatrol (empty)
Roxio (1 folder -4 files - 414 KB)
Spybot (5 folders -61 files - 764 KB) (Logs folder is now empty)
Sun (22 folders - 139 files - 372 KB)

The above differs slightly from that of C:\Windows\Application Data (209
Folders -1,213 files - 239 MB) Items listed are where differences are shown:
Adobe (11 folders -11 files - 3.11 MB)
Identities (24 folders - 144 files - 191 MB)
Macromedia (9 folders - 5 files - 720 bytes)
Microsoft (116 folders - 620 files - 11.0 MB)
Spybot (6 folders -78 files - 9.91 MB)
Sun (22 folders - 279 files - 797 KB)

Also been chopping some former identities folders that were present from
several, installs un-installs of OE Newsreader when it was messing up last
year. So, after I clean them up and retain my present OE store, I'll let you
know what remains, etc.

Running ver1.3 of Spybot. I never installed that "interim test version";
went directly from V1.2 to V1.3. Setting is to "Overwrite log file if
existent (else append to it)" <---sic

LS
-------------------


"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> 94 clicks JUST for directories! My God!! What on earth could be in
> there!?! (Well, I'm sure I wouldn't know what to do with them, anyhow--
> not THAT many!)
>
> That's interesting SpyBot didn't put new .logs in there, but what
> version did you run? I guess it's the new one, because v1.2 wasn't
> updating any more. Did it put a new log into the other (Default) folder,
> uh, "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data"? What are your settings for the .logs?
>
> Could be nothing new will go to the Profiles folder, then, because you
> disabled it. (But I don't know how that works.)
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "LuckyStrike" m>
> wrote in message ...
> | Uh -uh...94 clicks of " | more". :-(
> |
> | Meanwhile, I removed everything log related (checks, fixes, logs)
> except for
> | the Logs folder in C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data\Spybot -
> Search
> | & Destroy\Logs. Then I did a search for update and a full Spybot
> scan....
> | Nothing new was created in that folder.
> |
> | LS
> | ---------------
> | "PCR" wrote:
> | > I didn't think it would be that much. How about just...?...
> | > DIR /s /ad /on C:\Windows\Profiles
> | >
> | > --
> | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > should things get worse after this,
> | > PCR
> | >

LuckyStrike
June 8th 04, 10:24 PM
I pulled the entire Application Data folder out of C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\
just to see what would happen. Re-booted, all was OK there. Ran a few
programs that were related to the contents of that folder, and they seemed
to run OK too. I wonder if I can just "get rid of it". i.e. store it
somewhere else for the time being (but geez, its 192 folders with 954 files
and its 217 MB in size.) If I don't need it, I'd just as soon get rid of it
in it's entirety. Don't wanna be overly-hasty though, but.....
--
LuckyStrike
--------------------------------------------------------------------

PCR
June 9th 04, 02:52 AM
EEE-YOW. BUT I really don't know what to make of it. Surely, you didn't
install each one of those apps twice? I'm thinking... (but don't really
know)...

Every time you installed to the Default User, a copy must have gone to
the Profiles\ folder. But not visa versa. Therefore, you never did
install an app while logged onto the Profile\, as I see nothing
exclusively there (unless you left it out).

The differences in file sizes probably occurred when you did log on to
the Profile and use one of the apps. Then, changes did not get into the
Default. I'm thinking...

(a) You are sorely in need of an MVP of User Profiles. Are there any
left that you haven't insulted?

(b) I doubt there is a way to combine/merge the individual
Default/Profile files. It will be one or the other.

(c) Probably, having disabled profiles by that URL,...
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
....you are now using the Default. All changes are going only there.
....you are at liberty to delete files in the Profiles folder with their
Registry entries. If you do it piecemeal, then look for specific
Registry entries for the ones you delete. HOWEVER, you will lose changes
that occurred while logged onto the Profile.

(d) Probably, you can manually replace files in the Default folder with
files from the Profiles folder. Could be tricky... you'd have to go look
to see what may need to be done in the Registry.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" m>
wrote in message ...
| Yeah, I'm still in there "chopping and cutting". So, when I have it to
a
| manageable size I'll let you know. It'll still be large. Basically
they have
| the following:
| C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data (207 folders - 1,004 files -
231
| MB) has 13 folders and some 8 sundry files.
| Folders include:
| ACD Systems (6 folders -64 files -23.1 MB),
| Adobe (11 folders -11 files - 3.13 MB)
| AdobeUM (empty)
| CoreCodec (1 folder -19 files. Thought I had gotten rid of that..
Well, I
| did now) ;-))
| Google (1 folder -empty)
| Identities (24 folders - 145 files - 191 MB)
| InterTrust (1 folder -empty)
| Macromedia (8 folders -4 files - 636 bytes)
| Microsoft (116 folders -568 files - 11.9 MB)
| PestPatrol (empty)
| Roxio (1 folder -4 files - 414 KB)
| Spybot (5 folders -61 files - 764 KB) (Logs folder is now empty)
| Sun (22 folders - 139 files - 372 KB)
|
| The above differs slightly from that of C:\Windows\Application Data
(209
| Folders -1,213 files - 239 MB) Items listed are where differences are
shown:
| Adobe (11 folders -11 files - 3.11 MB)
| Identities (24 folders - 144 files - 191 MB)
| Macromedia (9 folders - 5 files - 720 bytes)
| Microsoft (116 folders - 620 files - 11.0 MB)
| Spybot (6 folders -78 files - 9.91 MB)
| Sun (22 folders - 279 files - 797 KB)
|
| Also been chopping some former identities folders that were present
from
| several, installs un-installs of OE Newsreader when it was messing up
last
| year. So, after I clean them up and retain my present OE store, I'll
let you
| know what remains, etc.
|
| Running ver1.3 of Spybot. I never installed that "interim test
version";
| went directly from V1.2 to V1.3. Setting is to "Overwrite log file if
| existent (else append to it)" <---sic
|
| LS
| -------------------
|
|
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > 94 clicks JUST for directories! My God!! What on earth could be in
| > there!?! (Well, I'm sure I wouldn't know what to do with them,
anyhow--
| > not THAT many!)
| >
| > That's interesting SpyBot didn't put new .logs in there, but what
| > version did you run? I guess it's the new one, because v1.2 wasn't
| > updating any more. Did it put a new log into the other (Default)
folder,
| > uh, "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data"? What are your settings for the
..logs?
| >
| > Could be nothing new will go to the Profiles folder, then, because
you
| > disabled it. (But I don't know how that works.)
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "LuckyStrike" m>
| > wrote in message ...
| > | Uh -uh...94 clicks of " | more". :-(
| > |
| > | Meanwhile, I removed everything log related (checks, fixes, logs)
| > except for
| > | the Logs folder in C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application
Data\Spybot -
| > Search
| > | & Destroy\Logs. Then I did a search for update and a full Spybot
| > scan....
| > | Nothing new was created in that folder.
| > |
| > | LS
| > | ---------------
| > | "PCR" wrote:
| > | > I didn't think it would be that much. How about just...?...
| > | > DIR /s /ad /on C:\Windows\Profiles
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | >
|
|

PCR
June 9th 04, 04:05 AM
Well, don't forget the Registry key. Export & delete it.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" m>
wrote in message ...
| I pulled the entire Application Data folder out of
C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\
| just to see what would happen. Re-booted, all was OK there. Ran a few
| programs that were related to the contents of that folder, and they
seemed
| to run OK too. I wonder if I can just "get rid of it". i.e. store it
| somewhere else for the time being (but geez, its 192 folders with 954
files
| and its 217 MB in size.) If I don't need it, I'd just as soon get rid
of it
| in it's entirety. Don't wanna be overly-hasty though, but.....
| --
| LuckyStrike
| --------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|

LuckyStrike
June 9th 04, 05:50 AM
OK ...we've a "two-fer" in this post.

Yes, I will look for the appropriate Registry Keys(s) and deal with them in
a proper manner. Thanks.

Now...Eee-Yow is right. I couldn't believe it when I saw just how big it
was. Anyway, as mentioned, a lot were very large .dbx folders from failed
installs and removal of OE during the MS server fiasco last year, so those
will remove a goodly amount of useless stuff. However, I've been importing
some older saved posts and help items from those .dbx's into my present OE
newsgroup stuff (I thought they were lost forever). Once scoped out, I can
definitely give them the axe, as those store folders are no longer for any
existing OE account.

I didn't really install Apps twice (that I can recollect), and a side by
side comparison shows them as identical except in cases where there were
discrepancies (a contradiction of sorts...I know) in a folder being void of
any content, or having a few (very few) file differences. May be critical
though, therefore much more intense scrutiny is still required to arrive at
something conclusive.

I don't remember installing any Apps during the incident of suddenly having
to log on using a profile (which also was done a few times within an hour of
the first time that message appeared). IOW, when that "log on with profile
password" thing suddenly came up, I thought WTF? Why is that happening all
of a sudden, and re-booted, and then searched for how to defeat that from
occurring. So I don't think that during that sudden unexpected happening
that I was going to install any App. I just tried to remedy the problem, but
might have opened some applications or something might have been (like
PestPatrol) configured to work during start-up. One question of course might
well be, WHY did it suddenly want some log-on and password, when I never
used one before? That will always remain a mystery to me.

a) Regarding MVP's and this issue...I dunno. Insulted MVP's? I dunno again.
;-)) Maybe the ones who arrive at 3:00 - 5:00 a.m. (my time) are safe? <g>

b) I'm thinking that since the default thing is the most common history of
the use with this machine, all stuff is now going there. As for the
subtleties which can be numerous within the Microsoft folder, that could be
trickier to determine.

c) For the rest, I will follow closely what you've suggested, but there is a
lot of intense investigation of those folders that will be needed. Thus far,
although I've not run much, the absence (by my having stashed it elsewhere)
of that Applications folder from User Profiles has not caused any *obvious*
troubles.

d) In the Registry, by using RegistryDetective, the seeking out of any
entries that would be related to any stuff which is to be deleted will aid
me in that process. Still, I'll have to keep good "notes" of what I'm doing.

Thanks for your ideas, views, and advice. I'm aware of your Sig line too,
so...... ;-)

LS
-------------------------

"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> EEE-YOW. BUT I really don't know what to make of it. Surely, you didn't
> install each one of those apps twice? I'm thinking... (but don't really
> know)...
>
> Every time you installed to the Default User, a copy must have gone to
> the Profiles\ folder. But not visa versa. Therefore, you never did
> install an app while logged onto the Profile\, as I see nothing
> exclusively there (unless you left it out).
>
> The differences in file sizes probably occurred when you did log on to
> the Profile and use one of the apps. Then, changes did not get into the
> Default. I'm thinking...
>
> (a) You are sorely in need of an MVP of User Profiles. Are there any
> left that you haven't insulted?
>
> (b) I doubt there is a way to combine/merge the individual
> Default/Profile files. It will be one or the other.
>
> (c) Probably, having disabled profiles by that URL,...
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
> How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
> ...you are now using the Default. All changes are going only there.
> ...you are at liberty to delete files in the Profiles folder with their
> Registry entries. If you do it piecemeal, then look for specific
> Registry entries for the ones you delete. HOWEVER, you will lose changes
> that occurred while logged onto the Profile.
>
> (d) Probably, you can manually replace files in the Default folder with
> files from the Profiles folder. Could be tricky... you'd have to go look
> to see what may need to be done in the Registry.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>

PCR
June 9th 04, 08:06 AM
Well, your work is cut out for you. You are doing well with the OE .dbx.
How large is that Registry key...

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ProfileList

Does it seem to be clearly subdivided by the apps which were installed?
If it is small enough, show me an Export.

| I didn't really install Apps twice (that I can recollect),

Surely you would have to remember THAT MANY. Therefore, it must be you
installed them all into Default, & Windows copied them from there into
the Profile. That is how to share apps with all Profiles, I think I've
read. Lucky you had only the one extra Profile!

I suppose, then, every time you logged on as Default, changes went to
both places. But when you logged on as that Profile, changes went only
there. But all I can do is guess at it. Where is the MVP in charge of
Profiles off to?

| I don't remember installing any Apps during the incident

A single incident did all this?!? Well, I guess, once the Profile was
established, Windows automatically copied everything from the Default
Profile to the new one, just to start it off.

| might have opened some applications or something might have been (like
| PestPatrol) configured to work during start-up

I guess everything done while logged onto the Profile was registered
only there. And that accounts for the file differences.

| WHY did it suddenly want some log-on and password, when I never
| used one before? That will always remain a mystery to me.

I don't know. Can it happen from deleting password (.pwl) file? Is it
worth a look in the MSKB? When I "Control Panel, Users", it seems
nothing happens, until one clicks "Next". I haven't done that since my
crash of 2001, & I certainly won't do it now.

http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/c.asp?fr=0&SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB
Search "User Profiles"; Windows 98; Full Text; Exact Phrase; didn't
quickly answer your question. However, this article is interesting...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;130330&Product=w98
Missing Settings After Disabling the User Profiles Option
(130330) - When you disable the user profiles option, some icons may be
missing from the desktop or the Start menu.

| b) I'm thinking that since the default thing is the most common
history of
| the use with this machine, all stuff is now going there.

| although I've not run much, the absence (by my having stashed it
elsewhere)
| of that Applications folder from User Profiles has not caused any
*obvious*
| troubles.

My best belief is you are now exclusively using the Default Profile--
"C:\WINDOWS\Application Data", because you did the first half of...
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
How to Disable and Delete User Profiles


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" m>
wrote in message ...
| OK ...we've a "two-fer" in this post.
|
| Yes, I will look for the appropriate Registry Keys(s) and deal with
them in
| a proper manner. Thanks.
|
| Now...Eee-Yow is right. I couldn't believe it when I saw just how big
it
| was. Anyway, as mentioned, a lot were very large .dbx folders from
failed
| installs and removal of OE during the MS server fiasco last year, so
those
| will remove a goodly amount of useless stuff. However, I've been
importing
| some older saved posts and help items from those .dbx's into my
present OE
| newsgroup stuff (I thought they were lost forever). Once scoped out, I
can
| definitely give them the axe, as those store folders are no longer for
any
| existing OE account.
|
| I didn't really install Apps twice (that I can recollect), and a side
by
| side comparison shows them as identical except in cases where there
were
| discrepancies (a contradiction of sorts...I know) in a folder being
void of
| any content, or having a few (very few) file differences. May be
critical
| though, therefore much more intense scrutiny is still required to
arrive at
| something conclusive.
|
| I don't remember installing any Apps during the incident of suddenly
having
| to log on using a profile (which also was done a few times within an
hour of
| the first time that message appeared). IOW, when that "log on with
profile
| password" thing suddenly came up, I thought WTF? Why is that happening
all
| of a sudden, and re-booted, and then searched for how to defeat that
from
| occurring. So I don't think that during that sudden unexpected
happening
| that I was going to install any App. I just tried to remedy the
problem, but
| might have opened some applications or something might have been (like
| PestPatrol) configured to work during start-up. One question of course
might
| well be, WHY did it suddenly want some log-on and password, when I
never
| used one before? That will always remain a mystery to me.
|
| a) Regarding MVP's and this issue...I dunno. Insulted MVP's? I dunno
again.
| ;-)) Maybe the ones who arrive at 3:00 - 5:00 a.m. (my time) are safe?
<g>
|
| b) I'm thinking that since the default thing is the most common
history of
| the use with this machine, all stuff is now going there. As for the
| subtleties which can be numerous within the Microsoft folder, that
could be
| trickier to determine.
|
| c) For the rest, I will follow closely what you've suggested, but
there is a
| lot of intense investigation of those folders that will be needed.
Thus far,
| although I've not run much, the absence (by my having stashed it
elsewhere)
| of that Applications folder from User Profiles has not caused any
*obvious*
| troubles.
|
| d) In the Registry, by using RegistryDetective, the seeking out of any
| entries that would be related to any stuff which is to be deleted will
aid
| me in that process. Still, I'll have to keep good "notes" of what I'm
doing.
|
| Thanks for your ideas, views, and advice. I'm aware of your Sig line
too,
| so...... ;-)
|
| LS
| -------------------------
|
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > EEE-YOW. BUT I really don't know what to make of it. Surely, you
didn't
| > install each one of those apps twice? I'm thinking... (but don't
really
| > know)...
| >
| > Every time you installed to the Default User, a copy must have gone
to
| > the Profiles\ folder. But not visa versa. Therefore, you never did
| > install an app while logged onto the Profile\, as I see nothing
| > exclusively there (unless you left it out).
| >
| > The differences in file sizes probably occurred when you did log on
to
| > the Profile and use one of the apps. Then, changes did not get into
the
| > Default. I'm thinking...
| >
| > (a) You are sorely in need of an MVP of User Profiles. Are there any
| > left that you haven't insulted?
| >
| > (b) I doubt there is a way to combine/merge the individual
| > Default/Profile files. It will be one or the other.
| >
| > (c) Probably, having disabled profiles by that URL,...
| > http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
| > How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
| > ...you are now using the Default. All changes are going only there.
| > ...you are at liberty to delete files in the Profiles folder with
their
| > Registry entries. If you do it piecemeal, then look for specific
| > Registry entries for the ones you delete. HOWEVER, you will lose
changes
| > that occurred while logged onto the Profile.
| >
| > (d) Probably, you can manually replace files in the Default folder
with
| > files from the Profiles folder. Could be tricky... you'd have to go
look
| > to see what may need to be done in the Registry.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
|
|

LuckyStrike
June 9th 04, 07:26 PM
I'm afraid I don't quite understand the answer to your question on the size
of the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ProfileList
Registry key.

There is but one entry - (Default) (value not set) for that key. The User
folder -subunit to the ProfileList key-(which I temporarily placed back in
there) has three:
(default) (value not set)
Bad local (01 00 00 00)
Profile Image path C:Windows\Profiles\User

But no size is indicated. Rest of my comments/replies in-line.

"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> Well, your work is cut out for you. You are doing well with the OE .dbx.
> How large is that Registry key...
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ProfileList
>
> Does it seem to be clearly subdivided by the apps which were installed?
> If it is small enough, show me an Export.

No...I don't think so. It is as I stated above if I understood you
correctly. Still wanna see an "Export"?
>
> | I didn't really install Apps twice (that I can recollect),
>
> Surely you would have to remember THAT MANY. Therefore, it must be you
> installed them all into Default, & Windows copied them from there into
> the Profile. That is how to share apps with all Profiles, I think I've >
read. Lucky you had only the one extra Profile!

Yes; that makes sense. I think I would have remembered installing that many.
Plus, I'm unlikely to have done that (installing stuff) when getting the
unexpected Boot-up - Log-on message. Something like that would have halted
me in my tracks; changed my plans for PC work that day, until I had "figured
it out, and fixed" what was wrong.
>
> I suppose, then, every time you logged on as Default, changes went to
> both places. But when you logged on as that Profile, changes went only
> there. But all I can do is guess at it. Where is the MVP in charge of
> Profiles off to?
>
> | I don't remember installing any Apps during the incident
>
> A single incident did all this?!? Well, I guess, once the Profile was
> established, Windows automatically copied everything from the Default
> Profile to the new one, just to start it off.

I seem to recollect having this Log-on thing happen twice in the history of
this PC. I think I suffered a major crash in between the first time and the
most recent one though. The last instance of this was (just a guess) maybe 3
or 4 months ago, where it asked for a log-on password/name.
>
> | might have opened some applications or something might have been (like
> | PestPatrol) configured to work during start-up
>
> I guess everything done while logged onto the Profile was registered
> only there. And that accounts for the file differences.

More than likely (I guess).
>
> | WHY did it suddenly want some log-on and password, when I never
> | used one before? That will always remain a mystery to me.
>
> I don't know. Can it happen from deleting password (.pwl) file? Is it
> worth a look in the MSKB? When I "Control Panel, Users", it seems
> nothing happens, until one clicks "Next". I haven't done that since my
> crash of 2001, & I certainly won't do it now.

I only did the delete password thing once IIRC. That was only during this
last instance, but it's all a bit foggy to me now. For the CP>Users I get
the same as you. Must click "Next" for something to happen. I don't bother
with it, and don't remember ever setting up that utility accessory. I would
have no reason to delete a password, log on name if I didn't have one and
use one. As I've said, this has always been a "Windows Log-on" machine,
except when for no good reason, it arbitrarily decided to ask for a
name/password at Cold Boot.
>
> http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/c.asp?fr=0&SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB
> Search "User Profiles"; Windows 98; Full Text; Exact Phrase; didn't
> quickly answer your question. However, this article is interesting...
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;130330&Product=w98
> Missing Settings After Disabling the User Profiles Option
> (130330) - When you disable the user profiles option, some icons may be
> missing from the desktop or the Start menu.

This may or may not have happened. I don't remember now. But I can say this
(not really related, but interesting anyway...I think) One day I stumbled
upon some interesting sites and made a "million" shortcuts to the desktop.
The desktop must have gotten pretty full as the "names" of some of the
shortcuts were rather long. So, after a while I placed these shortcuts in
appropriate folders for their respective use, however, there seemed to be
fewer shortcuts than the number I thought I had created. Later, after a
re-boot the desktop was again full of more shortcuts from the earlier
"shortcut spree". I placed those (which were different from those already
placed) in their folders. Later on re-booted again, and there were still 4
or 5 more of those shortcuts which appeared on the desktop. So, what I'm
saying is if you make 50 (or whatever number) shortcuts, and they don't fit
on the desktop, they must "hide" offsceen (or somewhere) only to re-appear
when there's space for them.

Now, back to the "Profile Icons may disappear (from start menu or desktop).
This could have happened at one time for maybe 1 or 2 programs or folders,
but I don't recall.
>
> | b) I'm thinking that since the default thing is the most common
> history of
> | the use with this machine, all stuff is now going there.
>
> | although I've not run much, the absence (by my having stashed it
> elsewhere)
> | of that Applications folder from User Profiles has not caused any
> *obvious*
> | troubles.
>
> My best belief is you are now exclusively using the Default Profile--
> "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data", because you did the first half of...
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
> How to Disable and Delete User Profiles

I tend to agree with your suppostion. We'll see what the next few days (of
slow progress) will reveal. Anyway, I've been trying to proceed slowly, and
see what I've got, etc. Since it is that size and is in there already, I'm
just going to try and take my time ad see what is what. Then delete or
remove that which is *identical* in every respect. First, get rid of the
un-needed .dbx things after I sift through what may be of use.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "LuckyStrike" m>
> wrote in message ...
> | OK ...we've a "two-fer" in this post.
> |
> | Yes, I will look for the appropriate Registry Keys(s) and deal with
> them in
> | a proper manner. Thanks.
> |
> | Now...Eee-Yow is right. I couldn't believe it when I saw just how big
> it
> | was. Anyway, as mentioned, a lot were very large .dbx folders from
> failed
> | installs and removal of OE during the MS server fiasco last year, so
> those
> | will remove a goodly amount of useless stuff. However, I've been
> importing
> | some older saved posts and help items from those .dbx's into my
> present OE
> | newsgroup stuff (I thought they were lost forever). Once scoped out, I
> can
> | definitely give them the axe, as those store folders are no longer for
> any
> | existing OE account.
> |
> | I didn't really install Apps twice (that I can recollect), and a side
> by
> | side comparison shows them as identical except in cases where there
> were
> | discrepancies (a contradiction of sorts...I know) in a folder being
> void of
> | any content, or having a few (very few) file differences. May be
> critical
> | though, therefore much more intense scrutiny is still required to
> arrive at
> | something conclusive.
> |
> | I don't remember installing any Apps during the incident of suddenly
> having
> | to log on using a profile (which also was done a few times within an
> hour of
> | the first time that message appeared). IOW, when that "log on with
> profile
> | password" thing suddenly came up, I thought WTF? Why is that happening
> all
> | of a sudden, and re-booted, and then searched for how to defeat that
> from
> | occurring. So I don't think that during that sudden unexpected
> happening
> | that I was going to install any App. I just tried to remedy the
> problem, but
> | might have opened some applications or something might have been (like
> | PestPatrol) configured to work during start-up. One question of course
> might
> | well be, WHY did it suddenly want some log-on and password, when I
> never
> | used one before? That will always remain a mystery to me.
> |
> | a) Regarding MVP's and this issue...I dunno. Insulted MVP's? I dunno
> again.
> | ;-)) Maybe the ones who arrive at 3:00 - 5:00 a.m. (my time) are safe?
> <g>
> |
> | b) I'm thinking that since the default thing is the most common
> history of
> | the use with this machine, all stuff is now going there. As for the
> | subtleties which can be numerous within the Microsoft folder, that
> could be
> | trickier to determine.
> |
> | c) For the rest, I will follow closely what you've suggested, but
> there is a
> | lot of intense investigation of those folders that will be needed.
> Thus far,
> | although I've not run much, the absence (by my having stashed it
> elsewhere)
> | of that Applications folder from User Profiles has not caused any
> *obvious*
> | troubles.
> |
> | d) In the Registry, by using RegistryDetective, the seeking out of any
> | entries that would be related to any stuff which is to be deleted will
> aid
> | me in that process. Still, I'll have to keep good "notes" of what I'm
> doing.
> |
> | Thanks for your ideas, views, and advice. I'm aware of your Sig line
> too,
> | so...... ;-)
> |
> | LS
> | -------------------------
> |
> | "PCR" > wrote in message
> | ...
> | > EEE-YOW. BUT I really don't know what to make of it. Surely, you
> didn't
> | > install each one of those apps twice? I'm thinking... (but don't
> really
> | > know)...
> | >
> | > Every time you installed to the Default User, a copy must have gone
> to
> | > the Profiles\ folder. But not visa versa. Therefore, you never did
> | > install an app while logged onto the Profile\, as I see nothing
> | > exclusively there (unless you left it out).
> | >
> | > The differences in file sizes probably occurred when you did log on
> to
> | > the Profile and use one of the apps. Then, changes did not get into
> the
> | > Default. I'm thinking...
> | >
> | > (a) You are sorely in need of an MVP of User Profiles. Are there any
> | > left that you haven't insulted?
> | >
> | > (b) I doubt there is a way to combine/merge the individual
> | > Default/Profile files. It will be one or the other.
> | >
> | > (c) Probably, having disabled profiles by that URL,...
> | > http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
> | > How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
> | > ...you are now using the Default. All changes are going only there.
> | > ...you are at liberty to delete files in the Profiles folder with
> their
> | > Registry entries. If you do it piecemeal, then look for specific
> | > Registry entries for the ones you delete. HOWEVER, you will lose
> changes
> | > that occurred while logged onto the Profile.
> | >
> | > (d) Probably, you can manually replace files in the Default folder
> with
> | > files from the Profiles folder. Could be tricky... you'd have to go
> look
> | > to see what may need to be done in the Registry.
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > should things get worse after this,
> | > PCR
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

PCR
June 9th 04, 09:32 PM
That's pretty spooky, what happened with your Desktop shortcuts. But I
believe the Desktop may be larger than it's viewing area. Therefore,
icons that won't fit come into view when others are deleted. I doubt it
has to do with anything.

Well, that Registry key (ProfileList) appears to be less complex than I
thought it might be. That is good. No, I don't want to see it. Just,
Export then Delete it at the appropriate moment, per that article.

I do believe the mysterious log-on screen might have been the cause of
this-- or, at least, it is the tell-tale indicator that IT has happened.
Beware, if you see it appear again. Then, you should immediately do
that...
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
....both steps, I guess!

Did you say it seemed to happen this second time, JUST AFTER you deleted
the .pwl file? Or was it visa versa? Anyhow, I think you are doing well,
to proceed carefully as you are. OK, good luck with it!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" m>
wrote in message ...
| I'm afraid I don't quite understand the answer to your question on the
size
| of the
|
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ProfileList
| Registry key.
|
| There is but one entry - (Default) (value not set) for that key. The
User
| folder -subunit to the ProfileList key-(which I temporarily placed
back in
| there) has three:
| (default) (value not set)
| Bad local (01 00 00 00)
| Profile Image path C:Windows\Profiles\User
|
| But no size is indicated. Rest of my comments/replies in-line.
|
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Well, your work is cut out for you. You are doing well with the OE
..dbx.
| > How large is that Registry key...
| >
| >
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ProfileList
| >
| > Does it seem to be clearly subdivided by the apps which were
installed?
| > If it is small enough, show me an Export.
|
| No...I don't think so. It is as I stated above if I understood you
| correctly. Still wanna see an "Export"?
| >
| > | I didn't really install Apps twice (that I can recollect),
| >
| > Surely you would have to remember THAT MANY. Therefore, it must be
you
| > installed them all into Default, & Windows copied them from there
into
| > the Profile. That is how to share apps with all Profiles, I think
I've >
| read. Lucky you had only the one extra Profile!
|
| Yes; that makes sense. I think I would have remembered installing that
many.
| Plus, I'm unlikely to have done that (installing stuff) when getting
the
| unexpected Boot-up - Log-on message. Something like that would have
halted
| me in my tracks; changed my plans for PC work that day, until I had
"figured
| it out, and fixed" what was wrong.
| >
| > I suppose, then, every time you logged on as Default, changes went
to
| > both places. But when you logged on as that Profile, changes went
only
| > there. But all I can do is guess at it. Where is the MVP in charge
of
| > Profiles off to?
| >
| > | I don't remember installing any Apps during the incident
| >
| > A single incident did all this?!? Well, I guess, once the Profile
was
| > established, Windows automatically copied everything from the
Default
| > Profile to the new one, just to start it off.
|
| I seem to recollect having this Log-on thing happen twice in the
history of
| this PC. I think I suffered a major crash in between the first time
and the
| most recent one though. The last instance of this was (just a guess)
maybe 3
| or 4 months ago, where it asked for a log-on password/name.
| >
| > | might have opened some applications or something might have been
(like
| > | PestPatrol) configured to work during start-up
| >
| > I guess everything done while logged onto the Profile was registered
| > only there. And that accounts for the file differences.
|
| More than likely (I guess).
| >
| > | WHY did it suddenly want some log-on and password, when I never
| > | used one before? That will always remain a mystery to me.
| >
| > I don't know. Can it happen from deleting password (.pwl) file? Is
it
| > worth a look in the MSKB? When I "Control Panel, Users", it seems
| > nothing happens, until one clicks "Next". I haven't done that since
my
| > crash of 2001, & I certainly won't do it now.
|
| I only did the delete password thing once IIRC. That was only during
this
| last instance, but it's all a bit foggy to me now. For the CP>Users I
get
| the same as you. Must click "Next" for something to happen. I don't
bother
| with it, and don't remember ever setting up that utility accessory. I
would
| have no reason to delete a password, log on name if I didn't have one
and
| use one. As I've said, this has always been a "Windows Log-on"
machine,
| except when for no good reason, it arbitrarily decided to ask for a
| name/password at Cold Boot.
| >
| > http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/c.asp?fr=0&SD=GN&LN=EN-US
MSKB
| > Search "User Profiles"; Windows 98; Full Text; Exact Phrase; didn't
| > quickly answer your question. However, this article is
interesting...
| >
| >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;130330&Product=w98
| > Missing Settings After Disabling the User Profiles Option
| > (130330) - When you disable the user profiles option, some icons may
be
| > missing from the desktop or the Start menu.
|
| This may or may not have happened. I don't remember now. But I can say
this
| (not really related, but interesting anyway...I think) One day I
stumbled
| upon some interesting sites and made a "million" shortcuts to the
desktop.
| The desktop must have gotten pretty full as the "names" of some of the
| shortcuts were rather long. So, after a while I placed these shortcuts
in
| appropriate folders for their respective use, however, there seemed to
be
| fewer shortcuts than the number I thought I had created. Later, after
a
| re-boot the desktop was again full of more shortcuts from the earlier
| "shortcut spree". I placed those (which were different from those
already
| placed) in their folders. Later on re-booted again, and there were
still 4
| or 5 more of those shortcuts which appeared on the desktop. So, what
I'm
| saying is if you make 50 (or whatever number) shortcuts, and they
don't fit
| on the desktop, they must "hide" offsceen (or somewhere) only to
re-appear
| when there's space for them.
|
| Now, back to the "Profile Icons may disappear (from start menu or
desktop).
| This could have happened at one time for maybe 1 or 2 programs or
folders,
| but I don't recall.
| >
| > | b) I'm thinking that since the default thing is the most common
| > history of
| > | the use with this machine, all stuff is now going there.
| >
| > | although I've not run much, the absence (by my having stashed it
| > elsewhere)
| > | of that Applications folder from User Profiles has not caused any
| > *obvious*
| > | troubles.
| >
| > My best belief is you are now exclusively using the Default
Profile--
| > "C:\WINDOWS\Application Data", because you did the first half of...
| > http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
| > How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
|
| I tend to agree with your suppostion. We'll see what the next few days
(of
| slow progress) will reveal. Anyway, I've been trying to proceed
slowly, and
| see what I've got, etc. Since it is that size and is in there already,
I'm
| just going to try and take my time ad see what is what. Then delete or
| remove that which is *identical* in every respect. First, get rid of
the
| un-needed .dbx things after I sift through what may be of use.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "LuckyStrike" m>
| > wrote in message ...
| > | OK ...we've a "two-fer" in this post.
| > |
| > | Yes, I will look for the appropriate Registry Keys(s) and deal
with
| > them in
| > | a proper manner. Thanks.
| > |
| > | Now...Eee-Yow is right. I couldn't believe it when I saw just how
big
| > it
| > | was. Anyway, as mentioned, a lot were very large .dbx folders from
| > failed
| > | installs and removal of OE during the MS server fiasco last year,
so
| > those
| > | will remove a goodly amount of useless stuff. However, I've been
| > importing
| > | some older saved posts and help items from those .dbx's into my
| > present OE
| > | newsgroup stuff (I thought they were lost forever). Once scoped
out, I
| > can
| > | definitely give them the axe, as those store folders are no longer
for
| > any
| > | existing OE account.
| > |
| > | I didn't really install Apps twice (that I can recollect), and a
side
| > by
| > | side comparison shows them as identical except in cases where
there
| > were
| > | discrepancies (a contradiction of sorts...I know) in a folder
being
| > void of
| > | any content, or having a few (very few) file differences. May be
| > critical
| > | though, therefore much more intense scrutiny is still required to
| > arrive at
| > | something conclusive.
| > |
| > | I don't remember installing any Apps during the incident of
suddenly
| > having
| > | to log on using a profile (which also was done a few times within
an
| > hour of
| > | the first time that message appeared). IOW, when that "log on with
| > profile
| > | password" thing suddenly came up, I thought WTF? Why is that
happening
| > all
| > | of a sudden, and re-booted, and then searched for how to defeat
that
| > from
| > | occurring. So I don't think that during that sudden unexpected
| > happening
| > | that I was going to install any App. I just tried to remedy the
| > problem, but
| > | might have opened some applications or something might have been
(like
| > | PestPatrol) configured to work during start-up. One question of
course
| > might
| > | well be, WHY did it suddenly want some log-on and password, when I
| > never
| > | used one before? That will always remain a mystery to me.
| > |
| > | a) Regarding MVP's and this issue...I dunno. Insulted MVP's? I
dunno
| > again.
| > | ;-)) Maybe the ones who arrive at 3:00 - 5:00 a.m. (my time) are
safe?
| > <g>
| > |
| > | b) I'm thinking that since the default thing is the most common
| > history of
| > | the use with this machine, all stuff is now going there. As for
the
| > | subtleties which can be numerous within the Microsoft folder, that
| > could be
| > | trickier to determine.
| > |
| > | c) For the rest, I will follow closely what you've suggested, but
| > there is a
| > | lot of intense investigation of those folders that will be needed.
| > Thus far,
| > | although I've not run much, the absence (by my having stashed it
| > elsewhere)
| > | of that Applications folder from User Profiles has not caused any
| > *obvious*
| > | troubles.
| > |
| > | d) In the Registry, by using RegistryDetective, the seeking out of
any
| > | entries that would be related to any stuff which is to be deleted
will
| > aid
| > | me in that process. Still, I'll have to keep good "notes" of what
I'm
| > doing.
| > |
| > | Thanks for your ideas, views, and advice. I'm aware of your Sig
line
| > too,
| > | so...... ;-)
| > |
| > | LS
| > | -------------------------
| > |
| > | "PCR" > wrote in message
| > | ...
| > | > EEE-YOW. BUT I really don't know what to make of it. Surely, you
| > didn't
| > | > install each one of those apps twice? I'm thinking... (but don't
| > really
| > | > know)...
| > | >
| > | > Every time you installed to the Default User, a copy must have
gone
| > to
| > | > the Profiles\ folder. But not visa versa. Therefore, you never
did
| > | > install an app while logged onto the Profile\, as I see nothing
| > | > exclusively there (unless you left it out).
| > | >
| > | > The differences in file sizes probably occurred when you did log
on
| > to
| > | > the Profile and use one of the apps. Then, changes did not get
into
| > the
| > | > Default. I'm thinking...
| > | >
| > | > (a) You are sorely in need of an MVP of User Profiles. Are there
any
| > | > left that you haven't insulted?
| > | >
| > | > (b) I doubt there is a way to combine/merge the individual
| > | > Default/Profile files. It will be one or the other.
| > | >
| > | > (c) Probably, having disabled profiles by that URL,...
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
| > | > How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
| > | > ...you are now using the Default. All changes are going only
there.
| > | > ...you are at liberty to delete files in the Profiles folder
with
| > their
| > | > Registry entries. If you do it piecemeal, then look for specific
| > | > Registry entries for the ones you delete. HOWEVER, you will lose
| > changes
| > | > that occurred while logged onto the Profile.
| > | >
| > | > (d) Probably, you can manually replace files in the Default
folder
| > with
| > | > files from the Profiles folder. Could be tricky... you'd have to
go
| > look
| > | > to see what may need to be done in the Registry.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

LuckyStrike
June 9th 04, 09:55 PM
It was vice-versa. I had to delete the .pwl file after suddenly being
prompted to submit a password etc.at a first boot of the day. Thanks for all
the input. No need to reply to this...I'll advise (just in the event you're
still interested <g>) when things are "done". Should this instance ever
arise again in the future, both steps it shall be. Wonder why I didn't do
that at the beginning when it first happened? (you don't have to answer
this. <g>)

BTW, agreed... the Desktop does seem to be larger (on the right side only)
than the visible viewing area. My deduction is based upon the fact that one
can make the cursor disappear from sight on the right, but not the left,
top, or bottom sides. Such is the case with my machine.

LS
--------------------------
"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> That's pretty spooky, what happened with your Desktop shortcuts. But I
> believe the Desktop may be larger than it's viewing area. Therefore,
> icons that won't fit come into view when others are deleted. I doubt it
> has to do with anything.
>
> Well, that Registry key (ProfileList) appears to be less complex than I
> thought it might be. That is good. No, I don't want to see it. Just,
> Export then Delete it at the appropriate moment, per that article.
>
> I do believe the mysterious log-on screen might have been the cause of
> this-- or, at least, it is the tell-tale indicator that IT has happened.
> Beware, if you see it appear again. Then, you should immediately do
> that...
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
> How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
> ...both steps, I guess!
>
> Did you say it seemed to happen this second time, JUST AFTER you deleted
> the .pwl file? Or was it visa versa? Anyhow, I think you are doing well,
> to proceed carefully as you are. OK, good luck with it!
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>

PCR
June 10th 04, 02:06 AM
You are welcome. Yes, I would like a final report, but don't nobody give
me no bad news! OK, bye.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" m>
wrote in message ...
| It was vice-versa. I had to delete the .pwl file after suddenly being
| prompted to submit a password etc.at a first boot of the day. Thanks
for all
| the input. No need to reply to this...I'll advise (just in the event
you're
| still interested <g>) when things are "done". Should this instance
ever
| arise again in the future, both steps it shall be. Wonder why I didn't
do
| that at the beginning when it first happened? (you don't have to
answer
| this. <g>)
|
| BTW, agreed... the Desktop does seem to be larger (on the right side
only)
| than the visible viewing area. My deduction is based upon the fact
that one
| can make the cursor disappear from sight on the right, but not the
left,
| top, or bottom sides. Such is the case with my machine.
|
| LS
| --------------------------
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > That's pretty spooky, what happened with your Desktop shortcuts. But
I
| > believe the Desktop may be larger than it's viewing area. Therefore,
| > icons that won't fit come into view when others are deleted. I doubt
it
| > has to do with anything.
| >
| > Well, that Registry key (ProfileList) appears to be less complex
than I
| > thought it might be. That is good. No, I don't want to see it. Just,
| > Export then Delete it at the appropriate moment, per that article.
| >
| > I do believe the mysterious log-on screen might have been the cause
of
| > this-- or, at least, it is the tell-tale indicator that IT has
happened.
| > Beware, if you see it appear again. Then, you should immediately do
| > that...
| > http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
| > How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
| > ...both steps, I guess!
| >
| > Did you say it seemed to happen this second time, JUST AFTER you
deleted
| > the .pwl file? Or was it visa versa? Anyhow, I think you are doing
well,
| > to proceed carefully as you are. OK, good luck with it!
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
|
|

LuckyStrike
June 16th 04, 05:24 PM
Update: So far so good with not needing the entire contents of
C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data folder. I'm still gleaning the
useful posts from some old .dbx folders though. The machine is doing well.
Plus, I've used "Dupeless" to examine any double (triple, quadruple) items
and in conjunction with folders view (details and by size). Then a slow "I
don't trust this" approach to examine each items properties (and sometimes
the actual contents themselves) to remove more unnecessary stuff. 2.7GB +
so far. :-)
--
LuckyStrike
m
--------------------------------------------------------------------
"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> You are welcome. Yes, I would like a final report, but don't nobody give
> me no bad news! OK, bye.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "LuckyStrike" wrote:
> | It was vice-versa. I had to delete the .pwl file after suddenly being
> | prompted to submit a password etc.at a first boot of the day. Thanks
> for all
> | the input. No need to reply to this...I'll advise (just in the event
> you're
> | still interested <g>) when things are "done". Should this instance
> ever
> | arise again in the future, both steps it shall be. Wonder why I didn't
> do
> | that at the beginning when it first happened? (you don't have to
> answer
> | this. <g>)
> |
> | BTW, agreed... the Desktop does seem to be larger (on the right side
> only)
> | than the visible viewing area. My deduction is based upon the fact
> that one
> | can make the cursor disappear from sight on the right, but not the
> left,
> | top, or bottom sides. Such is the case with my machine.
> |
> | LS
> | --------------------------
> | "PCR" > wrote in message
> | ...
> | > That's pretty spooky, what happened with your Desktop shortcuts. But
> I
> | > believe the Desktop may be larger than it's viewing area. Therefore,
> | > icons that won't fit come into view when others are deleted. I doubt
> | > it has to do with anything.
> | >
> | > Well, that Registry key (ProfileList) appears to be less complex
> | > than I thought it might be. That is good. No, I don't want to see it.
Just,
> | > Export then Delete it at the appropriate moment, per that article.
> | >
> | > I do believe the mysterious log-on screen might have been the cause
> | > of this-- or, at least, it is the tell-tale indicator that IT has
happened.
> | > Beware, if you see it appear again. Then, you should immediately do
> | > that...
> | > http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
> | > How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
> | > ...both steps, I guess!
> | >
> | > Did you say it seemed to happen this second time, JUST AFTER you
> | > deleted the .pwl file? Or was it visa versa? Anyhow, I think you are
doing
> | > well, to proceed carefully as you are. OK, good luck with it!
> | > --
> | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > should things get worse after this,
> | > PCR
> | >
> |

PCR
June 16th 04, 08:56 PM
| to remove more unnecessary stuff. 2.7GB + so far. :-)

I'm sure you mean MB, or I must faint dead! Yea, I went back to look, &
it's 231 MB total. Glad it's going well! Sounds like you're going right.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" m>
wrote in message ...
| Update: So far so good with not needing the entire contents of
| C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data folder. I'm still gleaning
the
| useful posts from some old .dbx folders though. The machine is doing
well.
| Plus, I've used "Dupeless" to examine any double (triple, quadruple)
items
| and in conjunction with folders view (details and by size). Then a
slow "I
| don't trust this" approach to examine each items properties (and
sometimes
| the actual contents themselves) to remove more unnecessary stuff.
2.7GB +
| so far. :-)
| --
| LuckyStrike
| m
| --------------------------------------------------------------------
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > You are welcome. Yes, I would like a final report, but don't nobody
give
| > me no bad news! OK, bye.
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "LuckyStrike" wrote:
| > | It was vice-versa. I had to delete the .pwl file after suddenly
being
| > | prompted to submit a password etc.at a first boot of the day.
Thanks
| > for all
| > | the input. No need to reply to this...I'll advise (just in the
event
| > you're
| > | still interested <g>) when things are "done". Should this instance
| > ever
| > | arise again in the future, both steps it shall be. Wonder why I
didn't
| > do
| > | that at the beginning when it first happened? (you don't have to
| > answer
| > | this. <g>)
| > |
| > | BTW, agreed... the Desktop does seem to be larger (on the right
side
| > only)
| > | than the visible viewing area. My deduction is based upon the fact
| > that one
| > | can make the cursor disappear from sight on the right, but not the
| > left,
| > | top, or bottom sides. Such is the case with my machine.
| > |
| > | LS
| > | --------------------------
| > | "PCR" > wrote in message
| > | ...
| > | > That's pretty spooky, what happened with your Desktop shortcuts.
But
| > I
| > | > believe the Desktop may be larger than it's viewing area.
Therefore,
| > | > icons that won't fit come into view when others are deleted. I
doubt
| > | > it has to do with anything.
| > | >
| > | > Well, that Registry key (ProfileList) appears to be less complex
| > | > than I thought it might be. That is good. No, I don't want to
see it.
| Just,
| > | > Export then Delete it at the appropriate moment, per that
article.
| > | >
| > | > I do believe the mysterious log-on screen might have been the
cause
| > | > of this-- or, at least, it is the tell-tale indicator that IT
has
| happened.
| > | > Beware, if you see it appear again. Then, you should immediately
do
| > | > that...
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/8/26.asp
| > | > How to Disable and Delete User Profiles
| > | > ...both steps, I guess!
| > | >
| > | > Did you say it seemed to happen this second time, JUST AFTER you
| > | > deleted the .pwl file? Or was it visa versa? Anyhow, I think you
are
| doing
| > | > well, to proceed carefully as you are. OK, good luck with it!
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | >
| > |
|
|

LuckyStrike
June 16th 04, 10:51 PM
No... you heard me right, but don't die on me... OK? But that BIG figure is
from the all over the C:Drive in general. Had a *lot* of duplicate stuff in
there. It was from a paranoia of having an entire folder disappear after
some crash happened. So, now about half of that is stored onto 2 CD's. I
guess I thought if I don't leave all my eggs in one basket... ;-) Anyway,
it turns out that the 231 MB was obviously small potatoes by comparison.

Anyway, it is *still* going well, albeit very slowly.

LS
---------------------------


"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> | to remove more unnecessary stuff. 2.7GB + so far. :-)
>
> I'm sure you mean MB, or I must faint dead! Yea, I went back to look, &
> it's 231 MB total. Glad it's going well! Sounds like you're going right.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "LuckyStrike" wrote:
> | Update: So far so good with not needing the entire contents of
> | C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data folder. I'm still gleaning
> the
> | useful posts from some old .dbx folders though. The machine is doing
> well.
> | Plus, I've used "Dupeless" to examine any double (triple, quadruple)
> items
> | and in conjunction with folders view (details and by size). Then a
> slow "I
> | don't trust this" approach to examine each items properties (and
> sometimes
> | the actual contents themselves) to remove more unnecessary stuff.
> 2.7GB +
> | so far. :-)
> | --
> | LuckyStrike
> |--------------------------------------------------------------------

PCR
June 17th 04, 01:39 AM
Yow. Well... are you deleting large folders/files in Explorer? Are you
suffering instability afterwards, until a reboot? Or are you deleting
them at Windows DOS?

Yea, yea, you're doing well! I'm almost inspired to do some of the
things I should do!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" m>
wrote in message ...
| No... you heard me right, but don't die on me... OK? But that BIG
figure is
| from the all over the C:Drive in general. Had a *lot* of duplicate
stuff in
| there. It was from a paranoia of having an entire folder disappear
after
| some crash happened. So, now about half of that is stored onto 2 CD's.
I
| guess I thought if I don't leave all my eggs in one basket... ;-)
Anyway,
| it turns out that the 231 MB was obviously small potatoes by
comparison.
|
| Anyway, it is *still* going well, albeit very slowly.
|
| LS
| ---------------------------
|
|
| "PCR" > wrote in message
| ...
| > | to remove more unnecessary stuff. 2.7GB + so far. :-)
| >
| > I'm sure you mean MB, or I must faint dead! Yea, I went back to
look, &
| > it's 231 MB total. Glad it's going well! Sounds like you're going
right.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "LuckyStrike" wrote:
| > | Update: So far so good with not needing the entire contents of
| > | C:\WINDOWS\Profiles\user\Application Data folder. I'm still
gleaning
| > the
| > | useful posts from some old .dbx folders though. The machine is
doing
| > well.
| > | Plus, I've used "Dupeless" to examine any double (triple,
quadruple)
| > items
| > | and in conjunction with folders view (details and by size). Then a
| > slow "I
| > | don't trust this" approach to examine each items properties (and
| > sometimes
| > | the actual contents themselves) to remove more unnecessary stuff.
| > 2.7GB +
| > | so far. :-)
| > | --
| > | LuckyStrike
| >
|--------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|

LuckyStrike
June 17th 04, 04:07 AM
Deleting in very small batches, in Windows. No instability has been
experienced - but it did get close one time when deleting about 70 MB (?
don't remember exactly now). Anyway, this way I can inspect closely just
what I am giving the heave-ho to. I know how the PC acts if one tries to
delete large volumes of large files and folders in one fell swoop. BTDT.
Same thing would happen if one tried to empty an inordinately full recycle
bin too.<g> So, it is slow, but not as slow as having the PC freeze up when
one tries to rush things. I felt that "looking" at the stuff would be better
than going "blindly" through DOS, which though faster as it is, makes no
allowance for mistakes. BTDT as well. :-|

Now, I've heard of people "running out of space" on their HD-D's, so I am
beating that to the punch. I had close to 18 GB of used space on the 40 GB
HD-D. Now it is in the vicinity of 15.4 GB used space. I feel lighter
already! <g>

LS
------------------------------
"PCR" wrote:
> Yow. Well... are you deleting large folders/files in Explorer? Are you
> suffering instability afterwards, until a reboot? Or are you deleting
> them at Windows DOS?
>
> Yea, yea, you're doing well! I'm almost inspired to do some of the
> things I should do!
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "LuckyStrike" m>
> wrote in message ...
> | No... you heard me right, but don't die on me... OK? But that BIG
> figure is
> | from the all over the C:Drive in general. Had a *lot* of duplicate
> stuff in
> | there. It was from a paranoia of having an entire folder disappear
> after
> | some crash happened. So, now about half of that is stored onto 2 CD's.
> I
> | guess I thought if I don't leave all my eggs in one basket... ;-)
> Anyway,
> | it turns out that the 231 MB was obviously small potatoes by
> comparison.
> |
> | Anyway, it is *still* going well, albeit very slowly.
> |
> | LS
> | ---------------------------
> | "PCR" wrote:
> | > "LuckyStrike" wrote:
> | > to remove more unnecessary stuff. 2.7GB + so far. :-)
> | >~~~~~~~~~~
> | > I'm sure you mean MB, or I must faint dead! Yea, I went back to
> look, &
> | > it's 231 MB total. Glad it's going well! Sounds like you're going
> right.
> | >
> | > --
> | > PCR
> | >

PCR
June 17th 04, 04:42 AM
Well... (Lord!)... you are deleting... GBs... bit by bit? Are you SURE
you're not trying to make faint dead away, LuckyStrike?

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" m>
wrote in message ...
| Deleting in very small batches, in Windows. No instability has been
| experienced - but it did get close one time when deleting about 70 MB
(?
| don't remember exactly now). Anyway, this way I can inspect closely
just
| what I am giving the heave-ho to. I know how the PC acts if one tries
to
| delete large volumes of large files and folders in one fell swoop.
BTDT.
| Same thing would happen if one tried to empty an inordinately full
recycle
| bin too.<g> So, it is slow, but not as slow as having the PC freeze up
when
| one tries to rush things. I felt that "looking" at the stuff would be
better
| than going "blindly" through DOS, which though faster as it is, makes
no
| allowance for mistakes. BTDT as well. :-|
|
| Now, I've heard of people "running out of space" on their HD-D's, so I
am
| beating that to the punch. I had close to 18 GB of used space on the
40 GB
| HD-D. Now it is in the vicinity of 15.4 GB used space. I feel lighter
| already! <g>
|
| LS
| ------------------------------
| "PCR" wrote:
| > Yow. Well... are you deleting large folders/files in Explorer? Are
you
| > suffering instability afterwards, until a reboot? Or are you
deleting
| > them at Windows DOS?
| >
| > Yea, yea, you're doing well! I'm almost inspired to do some of the
| > things I should do!
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "LuckyStrike" m>
| > wrote in message ...
| > | No... you heard me right, but don't die on me... OK? But that BIG
| > figure is
| > | from the all over the C:Drive in general. Had a *lot* of duplicate
| > stuff in
| > | there. It was from a paranoia of having an entire folder disappear
| > after
| > | some crash happened. So, now about half of that is stored onto 2
CD's.
| > I
| > | guess I thought if I don't leave all my eggs in one basket... ;-)
| > Anyway,
| > | it turns out that the 231 MB was obviously small potatoes by
| > comparison.
| > |
| > | Anyway, it is *still* going well, albeit very slowly.
| > |
| > | LS
| > | ---------------------------
| > | "PCR" wrote:
| > | > "LuckyStrike" wrote:
| > | > to remove more unnecessary stuff. 2.7GB + so far. :-)
| > | >~~~~~~~~~~
| > | > I'm sure you mean MB, or I must faint dead! Yea, I went back to
| > look, &
| > | > it's 231 MB total. Glad it's going well! Sounds like you're
going
| > right.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > PCR
| > | >
|
|

LuckyStrike
June 17th 04, 05:08 AM
Well yes I am... deleting that is. This has been ongoing for some days now.
Bear in mind if you will, that it took a few years to accrue this gumbo of
stuff, so taking a few days to examine and deal with it isn't that hateful a
task. Some has been placed on CD's as I've previously stated. The Disks and
Burner are still standing by. But I do get your drift. ;-P
--
LuckyStrike
--------------------------------------------------------------------
"PCR" questioned my state of mind in message:
...
> Well... (Lord!)... you are deleting... GBs... bit by bit? Are you SURE
> you're not trying to make faint dead away, LuckyStrike?
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
>
> "LuckyStrike" m>
> wrote in message ...
> | Deleting in very small batches, in Windows. No instability has been
> | experienced - but it did get close one time when deleting about 70 MB
> (?
> | don't remember exactly now). Anyway, this way I can inspect closely
> just
> | what I am giving the heave-ho to. I know how the PC acts if one tries
> to
> | delete large volumes of large files and folders in one fell swoop.
> BTDT.
> | Same thing would happen if one tried to empty an inordinately full
> recycle
> | bin too.<g> So, it is slow, but not as slow as having the PC freeze up
> when
> | one tries to rush things. I felt that "looking" at the stuff would be
> better
> | than going "blindly" through DOS, which though faster as it is, makes
> no
> | allowance for mistakes. BTDT as well. :-|
> |
> | Now, I've heard of people "running out of space" on their HD-D's, so I
> am
> | beating that to the punch. I had close to 18 GB of used space on the
> 40 GB
> | HD-D. Now it is in the vicinity of 15.4 GB used space. I feel lighter
> | already! <g>
> |
> | LS
> | ------------------------------
> | "PCR" wrote:
> | > Yow. Well... are you deleting large folders/files in Explorer? Are
> you
> | > suffering instability afterwards, until a reboot? Or are you
> deleting
> | > them at Windows DOS?
> | >
> | > Yea, yea, you're doing well! I'm almost inspired to do some of the
> | > things I should do!
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > should things get worse after this,
> | > PCR
> | >

PCR
June 17th 04, 09:41 PM
Very well, carry on. OK, bye.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"LuckyStrike" m>
wrote in message ...
| Well yes I am... deleting that is. This has been ongoing for some days
now.
| Bear in mind if you will, that it took a few years to accrue this
gumbo of
| stuff, so taking a few days to examine and deal with it isn't that
hateful a
| task. Some has been placed on CD's as I've previously stated. The
Disks and
| Burner are still standing by. But I do get your drift. ;-P
| --
| LuckyStrike
| --------------------------------------------------------------------
| "PCR" questioned my state of mind in message:
| ...
| > Well... (Lord!)... you are deleting... GBs... bit by bit? Are you
SURE
| > you're not trying to make faint dead away, LuckyStrike?
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| >
| > "LuckyStrike" m>
| > wrote in message ...
| > | Deleting in very small batches, in Windows. No instability has
been
| > | experienced - but it did get close one time when deleting about 70
MB
| > (?
| > | don't remember exactly now). Anyway, this way I can inspect
closely
| > just
| > | what I am giving the heave-ho to. I know how the PC acts if one
tries
| > to
| > | delete large volumes of large files and folders in one fell swoop.
| > BTDT.
| > | Same thing would happen if one tried to empty an inordinately full
| > recycle
| > | bin too.<g> So, it is slow, but not as slow as having the PC
freeze up
| > when
| > | one tries to rush things. I felt that "looking" at the stuff would
be
| > better
| > | than going "blindly" through DOS, which though faster as it is,
makes
| > no
| > | allowance for mistakes. BTDT as well. :-|
| > |
| > | Now, I've heard of people "running out of space" on their HD-D's,
so I
| > am
| > | beating that to the punch. I had close to 18 GB of used space on
the
| > 40 GB
| > | HD-D. Now it is in the vicinity of 15.4 GB used space. I feel
lighter
| > | already! <g>
| > |
| > | LS
| > | ------------------------------
| > | "PCR" wrote:
| > | > Yow. Well... are you deleting large folders/files in Explorer?
Are
| > you
| > | > suffering instability afterwards, until a reboot? Or are you
| > deleting
| > | > them at Windows DOS?
| > | >
| > | > Yea, yea, you're doing well! I'm almost inspired to do some of
the
| > | > things I should do!
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | >
|
|

LuckyStrike
June 18th 04, 12:13 AM
Ta. ;-)

LS
----------------
"PCR" > wrote in message
...
> Very well, carry on. OK, bye.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR