Re: CD tray [Archive]

ppoatt

June 5th 04, 10:53 PM

Ok...I answered you on the first post.
I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the opening
and closed it. Where the tray could not go completely
home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
So the unit is not registering that it is closed/home.
The drive that opens and closes the tray is either a rack
and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear drive,it,
should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if it jumped
a tooth on the rack.
I would say that is a possible cause.
Another as mentioned in my other answer is a faulty
electric latch.
And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in the
release position.
Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The cost of a
repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
>-----Original Message-----
>It still opens in three seconds.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>You can download the manual from the manufacturer's www
>site. What happens
>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing it?
>>--
>>Jeff Richards
>>MS MVP W95/W98
>>"Charles" > wrote in
>message
...
>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD in the
>tray.
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >You should consult the users manual for the
particular
>CD
>>> drive that is
>>> >installed, however for some drives this will happen if
>>> the CD drive detects
>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This could be
>>> happening with a good CD
>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
>>> >--
>>> >Jeff Richards
>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
>>> >"Charles" > wrote
>in
>>> message
>>> ...
>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank the people
>that
>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the problem so
here
>is
>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD tray to open
>about
>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC? If I close
the
>>> tray
>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
>>> >
>>> >.
>>> >
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

Charles

June 6th 04, 03:14 AM

Thanks for making the experiment. The three second time is
interesting since mine also takes three seconds.I will
have to look in the box to see if I can detect a
mechanical failure.
>-----Original Message-----
>Ok...I answered you on the first post.
>I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the
opening
>and closed it. Where the tray could not go completely
>home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
>So the unit is not registering that it is closed/home.
>The drive that opens and closes the tray is either a rack
>and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear drive,it,
>should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if it
jumped
>a tooth on the rack.
> I would say that is a possible cause.
>Another as mentioned in my other answer is a faulty
>electric latch.
> And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in the
>release position.
> Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The cost of
a
>repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>It still opens in three seconds.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>You can download the manual from the manufacturer's www
>>site. What happens
>>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing it?
>>>--
>>>Jeff Richards
>>>MS MVP W95/W98
>>>"Charles" > wrote
in
>>message
...
>>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD in the
>>tray.
>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>> >You should consult the users manual for the
>particular
>>CD
>>>> drive that is
>>>> >installed, however for some drives this will happen
if
>>>> the CD drive detects
>>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This could be
>>>> happening with a good CD
>>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
>>>> >--
>>>> >Jeff Richards
>>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
>>>> >"Charles" >
wrote
>>in
>>>> message
>>>> ...
>>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank the people
>>that
>>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the problem so
>here
>>is
>>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD tray to open
>>about
>>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC? If I close
>the
>>>> tray
>>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
>>>> >
>>>> >.
>>>> >
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

ppoatt

June 6th 04, 04:14 PM

Please post back on what you find. I'm curious.
Plus it may help someone else.
>-----Original Message-----
>Thanks for making the experiment. The three second time
is
>interesting since mine also takes three seconds.I will
>have to look in the box to see if I can detect a
>mechanical failure.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Ok...I answered you on the first post.
>>I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the
>opening
>>and closed it. Where the tray could not go completely
>>home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
>>So the unit is not registering that it is closed/home.
>>The drive that opens and closes the tray is either a
rack
>>and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear drive,it,
>>should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if it
>jumped
>>a tooth on the rack.
>> I would say that is a possible cause.
>>Another as mentioned in my other answer is a faulty
>>electric latch.
>> And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in the
>>release position.
>> Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The cost of
>a
>>repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>It still opens in three seconds.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>You can download the manual from the manufacturer's
www
>>>site. What happens
>>>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing it?
>>>>--
>>>>Jeff Richards
>>>>MS MVP W95/W98
>>>>"Charles" > wrote
>in
>>>message
...
>>>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD in the
>>>tray.
>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>> >You should consult the users manual for the
>>particular
>>>CD
>>>>> drive that is
>>>>> >installed, however for some drives this will happen
>if
>>>>> the CD drive detects
>>>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This could be
>>>>> happening with a good CD
>>>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
>>>>> >--
>>>>> >Jeff Richards
>>>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
>>>>> >"Charles" >
>wrote
>>>in
>>>>> message
>>>>> ...
>>>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank the
people
>>>that
>>>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the problem so
>>here
>>>is
>>>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD tray to
open
>>>about
>>>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC? If I close
>>the
>>>>> tray
>>>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >.
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

PCR

June 6th 04, 07:19 PM

Charles

June 7th 04, 03:04 AM

Today I took the CD drive out of the box and examined it.
There were no obvious defects. I put the CD drive back in
the box and reconnected all the cables. I turned on the PC
and the tray opened within three seconds. Now what?
Somewhere I read that there is a trojan that can cause
this. Have you heard of it?
>-----Original Message-----
>Please post back on what you find. I'm curious.
> Plus it may help someone else.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Thanks for making the experiment. The three second time
>is
>>interesting since mine also takes three seconds.I will
>>have to look in the box to see if I can detect a
>>mechanical failure.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Ok...I answered you on the first post.
>>>I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the
>>opening
>>>and closed it. Where the tray could not go completely
>>>home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
>>>So the unit is not registering that it is closed/home.
>>>The drive that opens and closes the tray is either a
>rack
>>>and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear drive,it,
>>>should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if it
>>jumped
>>>a tooth on the rack.
>>> I would say that is a possible cause.
>>>Another as mentioned in my other answer is a faulty
>>>electric latch.
>>> And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in the
>>>release position.
>>> Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The cost
of
>>a
>>>repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>It still opens in three seconds.
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>You can download the manual from the manufacturer's
>www
>>>>site. What happens
>>>>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing it?
>>>>>--
>>>>>Jeff Richards
>>>>>MS MVP W95/W98
>>>>>"Charles" > wrote
>>in
>>>>message
...
>>>>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD in the
>>>>tray.
>>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >You should consult the users manual for the
>>>particular
>>>>CD
>>>>>> drive that is
>>>>>> >installed, however for some drives this will
happen
>>if
>>>>>> the CD drive detects
>>>>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This could be
>>>>>> happening with a good CD
>>>>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
>>>>>> >--
>>>>>> >Jeff Richards
>>>>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
>>>>>> >"Charles" >
>>wrote
>>>>in
>>>>>> message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank the
>people
>>>>that
>>>>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the problem so
>>>here
>>>>is
>>>>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD tray to
>open
>>>>about
>>>>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC? If I
close
>>>the
>>>>>> tray
>>>>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

ppoatt

June 8th 04, 05:43 AM

ppoatt

June 8th 04, 06:01 AM

No I have not heard of one. But that does not mean one is
not out there.
Do you have a CD-Burner?
Without me there to look for myself. You need to get
another CD drive either ROM or a Burner. And see if it
will do the same.
Do you have a good AV Program? And is it updated to the
latest definitions. AVG from Grisoft is free. It has a
boot scan.
Alot of places have on-line scans.
Computer Associates for one.

http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx

It takes awhile for this to load and it will ask you to
let an add-on load. Follow instructions.
>-----Original Message-----
>Today I took the CD drive out of the box and examined it.
>There were no obvious defects. I put the CD drive back in
>the box and reconnected all the cables. I turned on the
PC
>and the tray opened within three seconds. Now what?
>Somewhere I read that there is a trojan that can cause
>this. Have you heard of it?
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Please post back on what you find. I'm curious.
>> Plus it may help someone else.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Thanks for making the experiment. The three second time
>>is
>>>interesting since mine also takes three seconds.I will
>>>have to look in the box to see if I can detect a
>>>mechanical failure.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Ok...I answered you on the first post.
>>>>I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the
>>>opening
>>>>and closed it. Where the tray could not go completely
>>>>home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
>>>>So the unit is not registering that it is closed/home.
>>>>The drive that opens and closes the tray is either a
>>rack
>>>>and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear
drive,it,
>>>>should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if it
>>>jumped
>>>>a tooth on the rack.
>>>> I would say that is a possible cause.
>>>>Another as mentioned in my other answer is a faulty
>>>>electric latch.
>>>> And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in the
>>>>release position.
>>>> Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The cost
>of
>>>a
>>>>repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>It still opens in three seconds.
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>You can download the manual from the manufacturer's
>>www
>>>>>site. What happens
>>>>>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing it?
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Jeff Richards
>>>>>>MS MVP W95/W98
>>>>>>"Charles" >
wrote
>>>in
>>>>>message
...
>>>>>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD in
the
>>>>>tray.
>>>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> >You should consult the users manual for the
>>>>particular
>>>>>CD
>>>>>>> drive that is
>>>>>>> >installed, however for some drives this will
>happen
>>>if
>>>>>>> the CD drive detects
>>>>>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This could be
>>>>>>> happening with a good CD
>>>>>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
>>>>>>> >--
>>>>>>> >Jeff Richards
>>>>>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
>>>>>>> >"Charles" >
>>>wrote
>>>>>in
>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank the
>>people
>>>>>that
>>>>>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the problem so
>>>>here
>>>>>is
>>>>>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD tray to
>>open
>>>>>about
>>>>>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC? If I
>close
>>>>the
>>>>>>> tray
>>>>>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

PCR

June 8th 04, 07:18 PM

I'm just saying, uh, uh... there's no safer place than outer space! They
are always looking for people of your expertise to shoot into space.
Really. And Terhune will never find you there!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"ppoatt" > wrote in message
...
| Funny you should mention that....
| What? You running back ground checks on me now?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Ppoatt, NASA could have used you back in '86 for their O-
| Ring
| >experiments...!...
| >http://www.quantlet.org/mdbase/oring_S3PARATOR_oring.xml.g
| html
| >http://library.thinkquest.org/J002040F/space_shuttle_chall
| enger_disaster.htm
| >
| >
| >--
| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >should things get worse after this,
| >PCR
|
| >"ppoatt" > wrote in
| message
| ...
| >| Ok...I answered you on the first post.
| >| I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the
| opening
| >| and closed it. Where the tray could not go completely
| >| home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
| >| So the unit is not registering that it is closed/home.
| >| The drive that opens and closes the tray is either a
| rack
| >| and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear drive,it,
| >| should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if it
| jumped
| >| a tooth on the rack.
| >| I would say that is a possible cause.
| >| Another as mentioned in my other answer is a faulty
| >| electric latch.
| >| And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in the
| >| release position.
| >| Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The cost
| of a
| >| repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >It still opens in three seconds.
| >| >>-----Original Message-----
| >| >>You can download the manual from the manufacturer's
| www
| >| >site. What happens
| >| >>if you load a CD in the tray before closing it?
| >| >>--
| >| >>Jeff Richards
| >| >>MS MVP W95/W98
| >| >>"Charles" > wrote
| in
| >| >message
| >| ...
| >| >>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD in the
| >| >tray.
| >| >>> >-----Original Message-----
| >| >>> >You should consult the users manual for the
| >| particular
| >| >CD
| >| >>> drive that is
| >| >>> >installed, however for some drives this will
| happen if
| >| >>> the CD drive detects
| >| >>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This could be
| >| >>> happening with a good CD
| >| >>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
| >| >>> >--
| >| >>> >Jeff Richards
| >| >>> >MS MVP W95/W98
| >| >>> >"Charles" >
| wrote
| >| >in
| >| >>> message
| >| >>> ...
| >| >>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank the
| people
| >| >that
| >| >>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the problem so
| >| here
| >| >is
| >| >>> >> the same question. What causes the CD tray to
| open
| >| >about
| >| >>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC? If I close
| >| the
| >| >>> tray
| >| >>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
| >| >>> >
| >| >>> >.
| >| >>> >
| >| >>
| >| >>.
| >| >>
| >| >.
| >| >
| >
| >
| >.
| >

PCR

June 8th 04, 07:29 PM

Ppoatt is on his way to Mars to repair the rover. I will take over now.
Have you seen these URLs...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;q237948
Troubleshoot CD-R_W

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM

I guess, a first try would be...

(1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold CTRL for the
Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.)
(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab".
(3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking it's plus sign.
(4) Highlight each drive in that branch, & click "Remove".
(Safe Mode may reveal the presence of a "ghost".)
(5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.

Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, & all will be well.

As cquirke once said, "Control Panel, System, Performance tab". Are you
in "compatibility" mode? Then, try his site...
http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm

Also...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;130179&Product=w98
Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks
(130179) - The Performance tab in System properties shows that one or
more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-DOS Compatibility
mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either for the file system
or for virtual memory. You may receive the...

Also...

To see whether the CD-ROM is physically functioning, it can be run
independently of Windows...

Get a Startup Diskette from
http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the Startup
Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will say which
letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter higher than
normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM letter.

If you cannot boot the Startup Diskette, you must be sent into BIOS. If
the CD-ROM does work in DOS after the Diskette has boot, it is likely
there is a problem with the Windows 32-bit drivers or settings.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
| Today I took the CD drive out of the box and examined it.
| There were no obvious defects. I put the CD drive back in
| the box and reconnected all the cables. I turned on the PC
| and the tray opened within three seconds. Now what?
| Somewhere I read that there is a trojan that can cause
| this. Have you heard of it?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Please post back on what you find. I'm curious.
| > Plus it may help someone else.
| >>-----Original Message-----
| >>Thanks for making the experiment. The three second time
| >is
| >>interesting since mine also takes three seconds.I will
| >>have to look in the box to see if I can detect a
| >>mechanical failure.
| >>>-----Original Message-----
| >>>Ok...I answered you on the first post.
| >>>I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the
| >>opening
| >>>and closed it. Where the tray could not go completely
| >>>home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
| >>>So the unit is not registering that it is closed/home.
| >>>The drive that opens and closes the tray is either a
| >rack
| >>>and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear drive,it,
| >>>should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if it
| >>jumped
| >>>a tooth on the rack.
| >>> I would say that is a possible cause.
| >>>Another as mentioned in my other answer is a faulty
| >>>electric latch.
| >>> And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in the
| >>>release position.
| >>> Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The cost
| of
| >>a
| >>>repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
| >>>>-----Original Message-----
| >>>>It still opens in three seconds.
| >>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >>>>>You can download the manual from the manufacturer's
| >www
| >>>>site. What happens
| >>>>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing it?
| >>>>>--
| >>>>>Jeff Richards
| >>>>>MS MVP W95/W98
| >>>>>"Charles" > wrote
| >>in
| >>>>message
| ...
| >>>>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD in the
| >>>>tray.
| >>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
| >>>>>> >You should consult the users manual for the
| >>>particular
| >>>>CD
| >>>>>> drive that is
| >>>>>> >installed, however for some drives this will
| happen
| >>if
| >>>>>> the CD drive detects
| >>>>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This could be
| >>>>>> happening with a good CD
| >>>>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
| >>>>>> >--
| >>>>>> >Jeff Richards
| >>>>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
| >>>>>> >"Charles" >
| >>wrote
| >>>>in
| >>>>>> message
| >>>>>> ...
| >>>>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank the
| >people
| >>>>that
| >>>>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the problem so
| >>>here
| >>>>is
| >>>>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD tray to
| >open
| >>>>about
| >>>>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC? If I
| close
| >>>the
| >>>>>> tray
| >>>>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
| >>>>>> >
| >>>>>> >.
| >>>>>> >
| >>>>>
| >>>>>.
| >>>>>
| >>>>.
| >>>>
| >>>.
| >>>
| >>.
| >>
| >.
| >

jt3

June 10th 04, 08:47 PM

Dont know if you are still watching this thread, but I posted to the wrong
thread by mistake--see
>
(without the angle brackets), and the following post. Sorry--two machines
in a row went down.
Joe
"Charles" > wrote in message
...
> That yellow warning sign went away after a few reboots but
> I still have the original problem of the CD tray staying
> open. You mention reinstallation, how is this done?
> >-----Original Message-----
> > I would guess that it's worth trying this. Check out
> KB 151911, which
> >you can find by selecting 'search the knowledge base' at
> >http://support.microsoft.com/ (I don't have neat paste-in
> lists) and use
> >what you find here as a guide. Look for the NOIDE value
> in the
> >HKLM\software\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\IOS key as
> the KB instructs.
> > In my case, which uses a Via Busmaster PCI IDE
> controller,
> >reinstallation was necessary. In fact, many things which
> can foul up W98
> >seem to also foul this up, so reinstallation has become
> commonplace on this
> >machine after some cock-up.
> >
> >Good luck,
> >Joe
> >"Charles" > wrote in
> message
> ...
> >> I do not know if the drive works. Yes, there is a yellow
> >> sign on the secondary hd controller. I checked the
> >> properties and it said the device is not availble.
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Please don't be offended by the question, but does the
> >> drive work at all
> >> >otherwise? Is there a yellow-disc-? on the secondary
> hd
> >> controller in
> >> >Device Manager? Rt click on My Computer, click
> >> Properties, then the Device
> >> >Manager tab. I have had the same symptom from a driver
> >> serialization
> >> >problem.
> >> >"Charles" > wrote
> in
> >> message
> >> ...
> >> >> What causes the CD tray to open about three seconds
> >> after
> >> >> turning on the PC? If I close the tray manually it
> >> reopens
> >> >> in three seconds.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >

Charles

June 14th 04, 04:46 AM

I tried the safe mode boot, but no help. I also made a
startup disk but have not discovered anything. The CD tray
is still opening and staying open.
>-----Original Message-----
>Ppoatt is on his way to Mars to repair the rover. I will
take over now.
>Have you seen these URLs...
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
US;q237948
>Troubleshoot CD-R_W
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
>Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
>
>I guess, a first try would be...
>
>(1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold CTRL
for the
>Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.)
>(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device
Manager tab".
>(3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking it's plus sign.
>(4) Highlight each drive in that branch, & click "Remove".
> (Safe Mode may reveal the presence of a "ghost".)
>(5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.
>
>Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, & all
will be well.
>
>As cquirke once said, "Control Panel, System, Performance
tab". Are you
>in "compatibility" mode? Then, try his site...
>http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
>
>Also...
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;130179&Product=w98
>Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks
>(130179) - The Performance tab in System properties shows
that one or
>more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-DOS
Compatibility
>mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either for
the file system
>or for virtual memory. You may receive the...
>
>Also...
>
>To see whether the CD-ROM is physically functioning, it
can be run
>independently of Windows...
>
>Get a Startup Diskette from
>http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one
from "Control
>Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
Startup
>Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will
say which
>letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
higher than
>normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
letter.
>
>If you cannot boot the Startup Diskette, you must be sent
into BIOS. If
>the CD-ROM does work in DOS after the Diskette has boot,
it is likely
>there is a problem with the Windows 32-bit drivers or
settings.
>
>
>--
>Thanks or Good Luck,
>There may be humor in this post, and,
>Naturally, you will not sue,
>should things get worse after this,
>PCR

>"Charles" > wrote in
message
...
>| Today I took the CD drive out of the box and examined
it.
>| There were no obvious defects. I put the CD drive back
in
>| the box and reconnected all the cables. I turned on the
PC
>| and the tray opened within three seconds. Now what?
>| Somewhere I read that there is a trojan that can cause
>| this. Have you heard of it?
>| >-----Original Message-----
>| >Please post back on what you find. I'm curious.
>| > Plus it may help someone else.
>| >>-----Original Message-----
>| >>Thanks for making the experiment. The three second
time
>| >is
>| >>interesting since mine also takes three seconds.I will
>| >>have to look in the box to see if I can detect a
>| >>mechanical failure.
>| >>>-----Original Message-----
>| >>>Ok...I answered you on the first post.
>| >>>I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the
>| >>opening
>| >>>and closed it. Where the tray could not go completely
>| >>>home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
>| >>>So the unit is not registering that it is
closed/home.
>| >>>The drive that opens and closes the tray is either a
>| >rack
>| >>>and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear
drive,it,
>| >>>should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if it
>| >>jumped
>| >>>a tooth on the rack.
>| >>> I would say that is a possible cause.
>| >>>Another as mentioned in my other answer is a faulty
>| >>>electric latch.
>| >>> And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in the
>| >>>release position.
>| >>> Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The cost
>| of
>| >>a
>| >>>repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
>| >>>>-----Original Message-----
>| >>>>It still opens in three seconds.
>| >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>| >>>>>You can download the manual from the manufacturer's
>| >www
>| >>>>site. What happens
>| >>>>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing it?
>| >>>>>--
>| >>>>>Jeff Richards
>| >>>>>MS MVP W95/W98
>| >>>>>"Charles" >
wrote
>| >>in
>| >>>>message
>| ...
>| >>>>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD in
the
>| >>>>tray.
>| >>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>| >>>>>> >You should consult the users manual for the
>| >>>particular
>| >>>>CD
>| >>>>>> drive that is
>| >>>>>> >installed, however for some drives this will
>| happen
>| >>if
>| >>>>>> the CD drive detects
>| >>>>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This could
be
>| >>>>>> happening with a good CD
>| >>>>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
>| >>>>>> >--
>| >>>>>> >Jeff Richards
>| >>>>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
>| >>>>>> >"Charles" >
>| >>wrote
>| >>>>in
>| >>>>>> message
>| >>>>>> ...
>| >>>>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank the
>| >people
>| >>>>that
>| >>>>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the problem
so
>| >>>here
>| >>>>is
>| >>>>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD tray to
>| >open
>| >>>>about
>| >>>>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC? If I
>| close
>| >>>the
>| >>>>>> tray
>| >>>>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
>| >>>>>> >
>| >>>>>> >.
>| >>>>>> >
>| >>>>>
>| >>>>>.
>| >>>>>
>| >>>>.
>| >>>>
>| >>>.
>| >>>
>| >>.
>| >>
>| >.
>| >
>
>
>.
>

PCR

June 14th 04, 08:39 PM

Well, are you implying that the CD tray behaves the same in Safe Mode &
in DOS? Or will it stay closed and function? Actually, here is how to
use the CD-ROM in Safe Mode...

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194846
Access CD-ROM in Safe Mode

If it behaves the same, then ppoatt was dead right all along! It must be
a hardware problem, an O-Ring gone bad!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
| I tried the safe mode boot, but no help. I also made a
| startup disk but have not discovered anything. The CD tray
| is still opening and staying open.
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Ppoatt is on his way to Mars to repair the rover. I will
| take over now.
| >Have you seen these URLs...
| >
| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
| US;q237948
| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
| >
| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
| >
| >I guess, a first try would be...
| >
| >(1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold CTRL
| for the
| >Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.)
| >(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device
| Manager tab".
| >(3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking it's plus sign.
| >(4) Highlight each drive in that branch, & click "Remove".
| > (Safe Mode may reveal the presence of a "ghost".)
| >(5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.
| >
| >Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, & all
| will be well.
| >
| >As cquirke once said, "Control Panel, System, Performance
| tab". Are you
| >in "compatibility" mode? Then, try his site...
| >http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
| >
| >Also...
| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
| us;130179&Product=w98
| >Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks
| >(130179) - The Performance tab in System properties shows
| that one or
| >more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-DOS
| Compatibility
| >mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either for
| the file system
| >or for virtual memory. You may receive the...
| >
| >Also...
| >
| >To see whether the CD-ROM is physically functioning, it
| can be run
| >independently of Windows...
| >
| >Get a Startup Diskette from
| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one
| from "Control
| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
| Startup
| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will
| say which
| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
| higher than
| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
| letter.
| >
| >If you cannot boot the Startup Diskette, you must be sent
| into BIOS. If
| >the CD-ROM does work in DOS after the Diskette has boot,
| it is likely
| >there is a problem with the Windows 32-bit drivers or
| settings.
| >
| >
| >--
| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >should things get worse after this,
| >PCR
|
| >"Charles" > wrote in
| message
| ...
| >| Today I took the CD drive out of the box and examined
| it.
| >| There were no obvious defects. I put the CD drive back
| in
| >| the box and reconnected all the cables. I turned on the
| PC
| >| and the tray opened within three seconds. Now what?
| >| Somewhere I read that there is a trojan that can cause
| >| this. Have you heard of it?
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >Please post back on what you find. I'm curious.
| >| > Plus it may help someone else.
| >| >>-----Original Message-----
| >| >>Thanks for making the experiment. The three second
| time
| >| >is
| >| >>interesting since mine also takes three seconds.I will
| >| >>have to look in the box to see if I can detect a
| >| >>mechanical failure.
| >| >>>-----Original Message-----
| >| >>>Ok...I answered you on the first post.
| >| >>>I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the
| >| >>opening
| >| >>>and closed it. Where the tray could not go completely
| >| >>>home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
| >| >>>So the unit is not registering that it is
| closed/home.
| >| >>>The drive that opens and closes the tray is either a
| >| >rack
| >| >>>and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear
| drive,it,
| >| >>>should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if it
| >| >>jumped
| >| >>>a tooth on the rack.
| >| >>> I would say that is a possible cause.
| >| >>>Another as mentioned in my other answer is a faulty
| >| >>>electric latch.
| >| >>> And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in the
| >| >>>release position.
| >| >>> Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The cost
| >| of
| >| >>a
| >| >>>repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
| >| >>>>-----Original Message-----
| >| >>>>It still opens in three seconds.
| >| >>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >| >>>>>You can download the manual from the manufacturer's
| >| >www
| >| >>>>site. What happens
| >| >>>>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing it?
| >| >>>>>--
| >| >>>>>Jeff Richards
| >| >>>>>MS MVP W95/W98
| >| >>>>>"Charles" >
| wrote
| >| >>in
| >| >>>>message
| >| ...
| >| >>>>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD in
| the
| >| >>>>tray.
| >| >>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
| >| >>>>>> >You should consult the users manual for the
| >| >>>particular
| >| >>>>CD
| >| >>>>>> drive that is
| >| >>>>>> >installed, however for some drives this will
| >| happen
| >| >>if
| >| >>>>>> the CD drive detects
| >| >>>>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This could
| be
| >| >>>>>> happening with a good CD
| >| >>>>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
| >| >>>>>> >--
| >| >>>>>> >Jeff Richards
| >| >>>>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
| >| >>>>>> >"Charles" >
| >| >>wrote
| >| >>>>in
| >| >>>>>> message
| >| >>>>>> ...
| >| >>>>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank the
| >| >people
| >| >>>>that
| >| >>>>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the problem
| so
| >| >>>here
| >| >>>>is
| >| >>>>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD tray to
| >| >open
| >| >>>>about
| >| >>>>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC? If I
| >| close
| >| >>>the
| >| >>>>>> tray
| >| >>>>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
| >| >>>>>> >
| >| >>>>>> >.
| >| >>>>>> >
| >| >>>>>
| >| >>>>>.
| >| >>>>>
| >| >>>>.
| >| >>>>
| >| >>>.
| >| >>>
| >| >>.
| >| >>
| >| >.
| >| >
| >
| >
| >.
| >

Charles

June 16th 04, 03:45 AM

No, I have not tried it in DOS. The CD tray has the same
symptoms in Safe Mode and in the normal mode.
>-----Original Message-----
>Well, are you implying that the CD tray behaves the same
in Safe Mode &
>in DOS? Or will it stay closed and function? Actually,
here is how to
>use the CD-ROM in Safe Mode...
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194846
>Access CD-ROM in Safe Mode
>
>If it behaves the same, then ppoatt was dead right all
along! It must be
>a hardware problem, an O-Ring gone bad!
>
>
>--
>Thanks or Good Luck,
>There may be humor in this post, and,
>Naturally, you will not sue,
>should things get worse after this,
>PCR

>"Charles" > wrote in
message
...
>| I tried the safe mode boot, but no help. I also made a
>| startup disk but have not discovered anything. The CD
tray
>| is still opening and staying open.
>| >-----Original Message-----
>| >Ppoatt is on his way to Mars to repair the rover. I
will
>| take over now.
>| >Have you seen these URLs...
>| >
>| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
>| US;q237948
>| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
>| >
>| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
>| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
>| >
>| >I guess, a first try would be...
>| >
>| >(1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold
CTRL
>| for the
>| >Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.)
>| >(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device
>| Manager tab".
>| >(3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking it's plus sign.
>| >(4) Highlight each drive in that branch, &
click "Remove".
>| > (Safe Mode may reveal the presence of a "ghost".)
>| >(5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.
>| >
>| >Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, & all
>| will be well.
>| >
>| >As cquirke once said, "Control Panel, System,
Performance
>| tab". Are you
>| >in "compatibility" mode? Then, try his site...
>| >http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
>| >
>| >Also...
>| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
>| us;130179&Product=w98
>| >Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks
>| >(130179) - The Performance tab in System properties
shows
>| that one or
>| >more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-DOS
>| Compatibility
>| >mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either
for
>| the file system
>| >or for virtual memory. You may receive the...
>| >
>| >Also...
>| >
>| >To see whether the CD-ROM is physically functioning, it
>| can be run
>| >independently of Windows...
>| >
>| >Get a Startup Diskette from
>| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have
one
>| from "Control
>| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
>| Startup
>| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It
will
>| say which
>| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
>| higher than
>| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
>| letter.
>| >
>| >If you cannot boot the Startup Diskette, you must be
sent
>| into BIOS. If
>| >the CD-ROM does work in DOS after the Diskette has
boot,
>| it is likely
>| >there is a problem with the Windows 32-bit drivers or
>| settings.
>| >
>| >
>| >--
>| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >should things get worse after this,
>| >PCR
>|
>| >"Charles" > wrote
in
>| message
>| ...
>| >| Today I took the CD drive out of the box and examined
>| it.
>| >| There were no obvious defects. I put the CD drive
back
>| in
>| >| the box and reconnected all the cables. I turned on
the
>| PC
>| >| and the tray opened within three seconds. Now what?
>| >| Somewhere I read that there is a trojan that can
cause
>| >| this. Have you heard of it?
>| >| >-----Original Message-----
>| >| >Please post back on what you find. I'm curious.
>| >| > Plus it may help someone else.
>| >| >>-----Original Message-----
>| >| >>Thanks for making the experiment. The three second
>| time
>| >| >is
>| >| >>interesting since mine also takes three seconds.I
will
>| >| >>have to look in the box to see if I can detect a
>| >| >>mechanical failure.
>| >| >>>-----Original Message-----
>| >| >>>Ok...I answered you on the first post.
>| >| >>>I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the
>| >| >>opening
>| >| >>>and closed it. Where the tray could not go
completely
>| >| >>>home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
>| >| >>>So the unit is not registering that it is
>| closed/home.
>| >| >>>The drive that opens and closes the tray is
either a
>| >| >rack
>| >| >>>and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear
>| drive,it,
>| >| >>>should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if
it
>| >| >>jumped
>| >| >>>a tooth on the rack.
>| >| >>> I would say that is a possible cause.
>| >| >>>Another as mentioned in my other answer is a
faulty
>| >| >>>electric latch.
>| >| >>> And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in
the
>| >| >>>release position.
>| >| >>> Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The
cost
>| >| of
>| >| >>a
>| >| >>>repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
>| >| >>>>-----Original Message-----
>| >| >>>>It still opens in three seconds.
>| >| >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>| >| >>>>>You can download the manual from the
manufacturer's
>| >| >www
>| >| >>>>site. What happens
>| >| >>>>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing it?
>| >| >>>>>--
>| >| >>>>>Jeff Richards
>| >| >>>>>MS MVP W95/W98
>| >| >>>>>"Charles" >
>| wrote
>| >| >>in
>| >| >>>>message
>| >| ...
>| >| >>>>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD
in
>| the
>| >| >>>>tray.
>| >| >>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>| >| >>>>>> >You should consult the users manual for the
>| >| >>>particular
>| >| >>>>CD
>| >| >>>>>> drive that is
>| >| >>>>>> >installed, however for some drives this will
>| >| happen
>| >| >>if
>| >| >>>>>> the CD drive detects
>| >| >>>>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This
could
>| be
>| >| >>>>>> happening with a good CD
>| >| >>>>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
>| >| >>>>>> >--
>| >| >>>>>> >Jeff Richards
>| >| >>>>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
>| >| >>>>>> >"Charles"
>
>| >| >>wrote
>| >| >>>>in
>| >| >>>>>> message
>| >| >>>>>> >news:1800f01c449de$0478a7c0
...
>| >| >>>>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank the
>| >| >people
>| >| >>>>that
>| >| >>>>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the
problem
>| so
>| >| >>>here
>| >| >>>>is
>| >| >>>>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD tray
to
>| >| >open
>| >| >>>>about
>| >| >>>>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC? If I
>| >| close
>| >| >>>the
>| >| >>>>>> tray
>| >| >>>>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
>| >| >>>>>> >
>| >| >>>>>> >.
>| >| >>>>>> >
>| >| >>>>>
>| >| >>>>>.
>| >| >>>>>
>| >| >>>>.
>| >| >>>>
>| >| >>>.
>| >| >>>
>| >| >>.
>| >| >>
>| >| >.
>| >| >
>| >
>| >
>| >.
>| >
>
>
>.
>

PCR

June 16th 04, 04:24 AM

You.. activated the CD-ROM.. in Safe Mode, per that article I posted?
Then, it was using the DOS driver. I guess it is a hardware error, as it
behaves the same in Safe & Normal Modes, two different drivers.
Therefore...

Open the box, & un/re-plug it, the data & power wires. Also...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;q237948
Troubleshoot CD-R_W

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
| No, I have not tried it in DOS. The CD tray has the same
| symptoms in Safe Mode and in the normal mode.
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Well, are you implying that the CD tray behaves the same
| in Safe Mode &
| >in DOS? Or will it stay closed and function? Actually,
| here is how to
| >use the CD-ROM in Safe Mode...
| >
| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194846
| >Access CD-ROM in Safe Mode
| >
| >If it behaves the same, then ppoatt was dead right all
| along! It must be
| >a hardware problem, an O-Ring gone bad!
| >
| >
| >--
| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >should things get worse after this,
| >PCR
|
| >"Charles" > wrote in
| message
| ...
| >| I tried the safe mode boot, but no help. I also made a
| >| startup disk but have not discovered anything. The CD
| tray
| >| is still opening and staying open.
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >Ppoatt is on his way to Mars to repair the rover. I
| will
| >| take over now.
| >| >Have you seen these URLs...
| >| >
| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
| >| US;q237948
| >| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
| >| >
| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
| >| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
| >| >
| >| >I guess, a first try would be...
| >| >
| >| >(1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold
| CTRL
| >| for the
| >| >Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.)
| >| >(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device
| >| Manager tab".
| >| >(3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking it's plus sign.
| >| >(4) Highlight each drive in that branch, &
| click "Remove".
| >| > (Safe Mode may reveal the presence of a "ghost".)
| >| >(5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.
| >| >
| >| >Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, & all
| >| will be well.
| >| >
| >| >As cquirke once said, "Control Panel, System,
| Performance
| >| tab". Are you
| >| >in "compatibility" mode? Then, try his site...
| >| >http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
| >| >
| >| >Also...
| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
| >| us;130179&Product=w98
| >| >Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks
| >| >(130179) - The Performance tab in System properties
| shows
| >| that one or
| >| >more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-DOS
| >| Compatibility
| >| >mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either
| for
| >| the file system
| >| >or for virtual memory. You may receive the...
| >| >
| >| >Also...
| >| >
| >| >To see whether the CD-ROM is physically functioning, it
| >| can be run
| >| >independently of Windows...
| >| >
| >| >Get a Startup Diskette from
| >| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have
| one
| >| from "Control
| >| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
| >| Startup
| >| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It
| will
| >| say which
| >| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
| >| higher than
| >| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
| >| letter.
| >| >
| >| >If you cannot boot the Startup Diskette, you must be
| sent
| >| into BIOS. If
| >| >the CD-ROM does work in DOS after the Diskette has
| boot,
| >| it is likely
| >| >there is a problem with the Windows 32-bit drivers or
| >| settings.
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >--
| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >| >should things get worse after this,
| >| >PCR
| >|
| >| >"Charles" > wrote
| in
| >| message
| >| ...
| >| >| Today I took the CD drive out of the box and examined
| >| it.
| >| >| There were no obvious defects. I put the CD drive
| back
| >| in
| >| >| the box and reconnected all the cables. I turned on
| the
| >| PC
| >| >| and the tray opened within three seconds. Now what?
| >| >| Somewhere I read that there is a trojan that can
| cause
| >| >| this. Have you heard of it?
| >| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >| >Please post back on what you find. I'm curious.
| >| >| > Plus it may help someone else.
| >| >| >>-----Original Message-----
| >| >| >>Thanks for making the experiment. The three second
| >| time
| >| >| >is
| >| >| >>interesting since mine also takes three seconds.I
| will
| >| >| >>have to look in the box to see if I can detect a
| >| >| >>mechanical failure.
| >| >| >>>-----Original Message-----
| >| >| >>>Ok...I answered you on the first post.
| >| >| >>>I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the
| >| >| >>opening
| >| >| >>>and closed it. Where the tray could not go
| completely
| >| >| >>>home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
| >| >| >>>So the unit is not registering that it is
| >| closed/home.
| >| >| >>>The drive that opens and closes the tray is
| either a
| >| >| >rack
| >| >| >>>and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear
| >| drive,it,
| >| >| >>>should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if
| it
| >| >| >>jumped
| >| >| >>>a tooth on the rack.
| >| >| >>> I would say that is a possible cause.
| >| >| >>>Another as mentioned in my other answer is a
| faulty
| >| >| >>>electric latch.
| >| >| >>> And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in
| the
| >| >| >>>release position.
| >| >| >>> Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The
| cost
| >| >| of
| >| >| >>a
| >| >| >>>repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
| >| >| >>>>-----Original Message-----
| >| >| >>>>It still opens in three seconds.
| >| >| >>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >| >| >>>>>You can download the manual from the
| manufacturer's
| >| >| >www
| >| >| >>>>site. What happens
| >| >| >>>>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing it?
| >| >| >>>>>--
| >| >| >>>>>Jeff Richards
| >| >| >>>>>MS MVP W95/W98
| >| >| >>>>>"Charles" >
| >| wrote
| >| >| >>in
| >| >| >>>>message
| >| >| ...
| >| >| >>>>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD
| in
| >| the
| >| >| >>>>tray.
| >| >| >>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
| >| >| >>>>>> >You should consult the users manual for the
| >| >| >>>particular
| >| >| >>>>CD
| >| >| >>>>>> drive that is
| >| >| >>>>>> >installed, however for some drives this will
| >| >| happen
| >| >| >>if
| >| >| >>>>>> the CD drive detects
| >| >| >>>>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This
| could
| >| be
| >| >| >>>>>> happening with a good CD
| >| >| >>>>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
| >| >| >>>>>> >--
| >| >| >>>>>> >Jeff Richards
| >| >| >>>>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
| >| >| >>>>>> >"Charles"
| >
| >| >| >>wrote
| >| >| >>>>in
| >| >| >>>>>> message
| >| >| >>>>>> >news:1800f01c449de$0478a7c0
| ...
| >| >| >>>>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank the
| >| >| >people
| >| >| >>>>that
| >| >| >>>>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the
| problem
| >| so
| >| >| >>>here
| >| >| >>>>is
| >| >| >>>>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD tray
| to
| >| >| >open
| >| >| >>>>about
| >| >| >>>>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC? If I
| >| >| close
| >| >| >>>the
| >| >| >>>>>> tray
| >| >| >>>>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
| >| >| >>>>>> >
| >| >| >>>>>> >.
| >| >| >>>>>> >
| >| >| >>>>>
| >| >| >>>>>.
| >| >| >>>>>
| >| >| >>>>.
| >| >| >>>>
| >| >| >>>.
| >| >| >>>
| >| >| >>.
| >| >| >>
| >| >| >.
| >| >| >
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >.
| >| >
| >
| >
| >.
| >

Jeff Richards

June 16th 04, 07:18 AM

Did you get the manual from the manufacturer like I suggested? I am very
confident that it will list the behaviour you are experiencing as a standard
symptom of a faulty drive.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (DTS)
"Charles" > wrote in message
...
> No, I have not tried it in DOS. The CD tray has the same
> symptoms in Safe Mode and in the normal mode.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Well, are you implying that the CD tray behaves the same
> in Safe Mode &
>>in DOS? Or will it stay closed and function? Actually,
> here is how to
>>use the CD-ROM in Safe Mode...
>>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194846
>>Access CD-ROM in Safe Mode
>>
>>If it behaves the same, then ppoatt was dead right all
> along! It must be
>>a hardware problem, an O-Ring gone bad!
>>
>>
>>--
>>Thanks or Good Luck,
>>There may be humor in this post, and,
>>Naturally, you will not sue,
>>should things get worse after this,
>>PCR

>>"Charles" > wrote in
> message
...
>>| I tried the safe mode boot, but no help. I also made a
>>| startup disk but have not discovered anything. The CD
> tray
>>| is still opening and staying open.
>>| >-----Original Message-----
>>| >Ppoatt is on his way to Mars to repair the rover. I
> will
>>| take over now.
>>| >Have you seen these URLs...
>>| >
>>| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
>>| US;q237948
>>| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
>>| >
>>| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
>>| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
>>| >
>>| >I guess, a first try would be...
>>| >
>>| >(1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold
> CTRL
>>| for the
>>| >Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.)
>>| >(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device
>>| Manager tab".
>>| >(3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking it's plus sign.
>>| >(4) Highlight each drive in that branch, &
> click "Remove".
>>| > (Safe Mode may reveal the presence of a "ghost".)
>>| >(5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.
>>| >
>>| >Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, & all
>>| will be well.
>>| >
>>| >As cquirke once said, "Control Panel, System,
> Performance
>>| tab". Are you
>>| >in "compatibility" mode? Then, try his site...
>>| >http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
>>| >
>>| >Also...
>>| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
>>| us;130179&Product=w98
>>| >Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks
>>| >(130179) - The Performance tab in System properties
> shows
>>| that one or
>>| >more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-DOS
>>| Compatibility
>>| >mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either
> for
>>| the file system
>>| >or for virtual memory. You may receive the...
>>| >
>>| >Also...
>>| >
>>| >To see whether the CD-ROM is physically functioning, it
>>| can be run
>>| >independently of Windows...
>>| >
>>| >Get a Startup Diskette from
>>| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have
> one
>>| from "Control
>>| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
>>| Startup
>>| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It
> will
>>| say which
>>| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
>>| higher than
>>| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
>>| letter.
>>| >
>>| >If you cannot boot the Startup Diskette, you must be
> sent
>>| into BIOS. If
>>| >the CD-ROM does work in DOS after the Diskette has
> boot,
>>| it is likely
>>| >there is a problem with the Windows 32-bit drivers or
>>| settings.
>>| >
>>| >
>>| >--
>>| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>>| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>>| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>>| >should things get worse after this,
>>| >PCR
>>|
>>| >"Charles" > wrote
> in
>>| message
>>| ...
>>| >| Today I took the CD drive out of the box and examined
>>| it.
>>| >| There were no obvious defects. I put the CD drive
> back
>>| in
>>| >| the box and reconnected all the cables. I turned on
> the
>>| PC
>>| >| and the tray opened within three seconds. Now what?
>>| >| Somewhere I read that there is a trojan that can
> cause
>>| >| this. Have you heard of it?
>>| >| >-----Original Message-----
>>| >| >Please post back on what you find. I'm curious.
>>| >| > Plus it may help someone else.
>>| >| >>-----Original Message-----
>>| >| >>Thanks for making the experiment. The three second
>>| time
>>| >| >is
>>| >| >>interesting since mine also takes three seconds.I
> will
>>| >| >>have to look in the box to see if I can detect a
>>| >| >>mechanical failure.
>>| >| >>>-----Original Message-----
>>| >| >>>Ok...I answered you on the first post.
>>| >| >>>I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the
>>| >| >>opening
>>| >| >>>and closed it. Where the tray could not go
> completely
>>| >| >>>home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
>>| >| >>>So the unit is not registering that it is
>>| closed/home.
>>| >| >>>The drive that opens and closes the tray is
> either a
>>| >| >rack
>>| >| >>>and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear
>>| drive,it,
>>| >| >>>should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if
> it
>>| >| >>jumped
>>| >| >>>a tooth on the rack.
>>| >| >>> I would say that is a possible cause.
>>| >| >>>Another as mentioned in my other answer is a
> faulty
>>| >| >>>electric latch.
>>| >| >>> And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in
> the
>>| >| >>>release position.
>>| >| >>> Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The
> cost
>>| >| of
>>| >| >>a
>>| >| >>>repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
>>| >| >>>>-----Original Message-----
>>| >| >>>>It still opens in three seconds.
>>| >| >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>| >| >>>>>You can download the manual from the
> manufacturer's
>>| >| >www
>>| >| >>>>site. What happens
>>| >| >>>>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing it?
>>| >| >>>>>--
>>| >| >>>>>Jeff Richards
>>| >| >>>>>MS MVP W95/W98
>>| >| >>>>>"Charles" >
>>| wrote
>>| >| >>in
>>| >| >>>>message
>>| >| ...
>>| >| >>>>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD
> in
>>| the
>>| >| >>>>tray.
>>| >| >>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>| >| >>>>>> >You should consult the users manual for the
>>| >| >>>particular
>>| >| >>>>CD
>>| >| >>>>>> drive that is
>>| >| >>>>>> >installed, however for some drives this will
>>| >| happen
>>| >| >>if
>>| >| >>>>>> the CD drive detects
>>| >| >>>>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This
> could
>>| be
>>| >| >>>>>> happening with a good CD
>>| >| >>>>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
>>| >| >>>>>> >--
>>| >| >>>>>> >Jeff Richards
>>| >| >>>>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
>>| >| >>>>>> >"Charles"
> >
>>| >| >>wrote
>>| >| >>>>in
>>| >| >>>>>> message
>>| >| >>>>>> >news:1800f01c449de$0478a7c0
> ...
>>| >| >>>>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank the
>>| >| >people
>>| >| >>>>that
>>| >| >>>>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the
> problem
>>| so
>>| >| >>>here
>>| >| >>>>is
>>| >| >>>>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD tray
> to
>>| >| >open
>>| >| >>>>about
>>| >| >>>>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC? If I
>>| >| close
>>| >| >>>the
>>| >| >>>>>> tray
>>| >| >>>>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
>>| >| >>>>>> >
>>| >| >>>>>> >.
>>| >| >>>>>> >
>>| >| >>>>>
>>| >| >>>>>.
>>| >| >>>>>
>>| >| >>>>.
>>| >| >>>>
>>| >| >>>.
>>| >| >>>
>>| >| >>.
>>| >| >>
>>| >| >.
>>| >| >
>>| >
>>| >
>>| >.
>>| >
>>
>>
>>.
>>

Charles

June 17th 04, 04:32 AM

I do not know. All I did was start the pc in safe Mode.
The Cd tray opened in the three seconds.
>-----Original Message-----
>You.. activated the CD-ROM.. in Safe Mode, per that
article I posted?
>Then, it was using the DOS driver. I guess it is a
hardware error, as it
>behaves the same in Safe & Normal Modes, two different
drivers.
>Therefore...
>
>Open the box, & un/re-plug it, the data & power wires.
Also...
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
US;q237948
>Troubleshoot CD-R_W
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
>Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
>
>
>--
>Thanks or Good Luck,
>There may be humor in this post, and,
>Naturally, you will not sue,
>should things get worse after this,
>PCR

>"Charles" > wrote in
message
...
>| No, I have not tried it in DOS. The CD tray has the same
>| symptoms in Safe Mode and in the normal mode.
>| >-----Original Message-----
>| >Well, are you implying that the CD tray behaves the
same
>| in Safe Mode &
>| >in DOS? Or will it stay closed and function? Actually,
>| here is how to
>| >use the CD-ROM in Safe Mode...
>| >
>| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194846
>| >Access CD-ROM in Safe Mode
>| >
>| >If it behaves the same, then ppoatt was dead right all
>| along! It must be
>| >a hardware problem, an O-Ring gone bad!
>| >
>| >
>| >--
>| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >should things get worse after this,
>| >PCR
>|
>| >"Charles" > wrote
in
>| message
>| ...
>| >| I tried the safe mode boot, but no help. I also made
a
>| >| startup disk but have not discovered anything. The CD
>| tray
>| >| is still opening and staying open.
>| >| >-----Original Message-----
>| >| >Ppoatt is on his way to Mars to repair the rover. I
>| will
>| >| take over now.
>| >| >Have you seen these URLs...
>| >| >
>| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=KB;EN-
>| >| US;q237948
>| >| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
>| >| >
>| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
>| >| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
>| >| >
>| >| >I guess, a first try would be...
>| >| >
>| >| >(1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold
>| CTRL
>| >| for the
>| >| >Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.)
>| >| >(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device
>| >| Manager tab".
>| >| >(3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking it's plus
sign.
>| >| >(4) Highlight each drive in that branch, &
>| click "Remove".
>| >| > (Safe Mode may reveal the presence of
a "ghost".)
>| >| >(5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.
>| >| >
>| >| >Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, &
all
>| >| will be well.
>| >| >
>| >| >As cquirke once said, "Control Panel, System,
>| Performance
>| >| tab". Are you
>| >| >in "compatibility" mode? Then, try his site...
>| >| >http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
>| >| >
>| >| >Also...
>| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=kb;en-
>| >| us;130179&Product=w98
>| >| >Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard
Disks
>| >| >(130179) - The Performance tab in System properties
>| shows
>| >| that one or
>| >| >more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-
DOS
>| >| Compatibility
>| >| >mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either
>| for
>| >| the file system
>| >| >or for virtual memory. You may receive the...
>| >| >
>| >| >Also...
>| >| >
>| >| >To see whether the CD-ROM is physically
functioning, it
>| >| can be run
>| >| >independently of Windows...
>| >| >
>| >| >Get a Startup Diskette from
>| >| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have
>| one
>| >| from "Control
>| >| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test
the
>| >| Startup
>| >| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It
>| will
>| >| say which
>| >| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one
letter
>| >| higher than
>| >| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-
ROM
>| >| letter.
>| >| >
>| >| >If you cannot boot the Startup Diskette, you must be
>| sent
>| >| into BIOS. If
>| >| >the CD-ROM does work in DOS after the Diskette has
>| boot,
>| >| it is likely
>| >| >there is a problem with the Windows 32-bit drivers
or
>| >| settings.
>| >| >
>| >| >
>| >| >--
>| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >| >should things get worse after this,
>| >| >PCR
>| >|
>| >| >"Charles" >
wrote
>| in
>| >| message
>| >| ...
>| >| >| Today I took the CD drive out of the box and
examined
>| >| it.
>| >| >| There were no obvious defects. I put the CD drive
>| back
>| >| in
>| >| >| the box and reconnected all the cables. I turned
on
>| the
>| >| PC
>| >| >| and the tray opened within three seconds. Now
what?
>| >| >| Somewhere I read that there is a trojan that can
>| cause
>| >| >| this. Have you heard of it?
>| >| >| >-----Original Message-----
>| >| >| >Please post back on what you find. I'm curious.
>| >| >| > Plus it may help someone else.
>| >| >| >>-----Original Message-----
>| >| >| >>Thanks for making the experiment. The three
second
>| >| time
>| >| >| >is
>| >| >| >>interesting since mine also takes three
seconds.I
>| will
>| >| >| >>have to look in the box to see if I can detect a
>| >| >| >>mechanical failure.
>| >| >| >>>-----Original Message-----
>| >| >| >>>Ok...I answered you on the first post.
>| >| >| >>>I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across
the
>| >| >| >>opening
>| >| >| >>>and closed it. Where the tray could not go
>| completely
>| >| >| >>>home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
>| >| >| >>>So the unit is not registering that it is
>| >| closed/home.
>| >| >| >>>The drive that opens and closes the tray is
>| either a
>| >| >| >rack
>| >| >| >>>and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear
>| >| drive,it,
>| >| >| >>>should not matter. But a pinion gear
type,may,if
>| it
>| >| >| >>jumped
>| >| >| >>>a tooth on the rack.
>| >| >| >>> I would say that is a possible cause.
>| >| >| >>>Another as mentioned in my other answer is a
>| faulty
>| >| >| >>>electric latch.
>| >| >| >>> And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in
>| the
>| >| >| >>>release position.
>| >| >| >>> Unless you want to try and fix it yourself.
The
>| cost
>| >| >| of
>| >| >| >>a
>| >| >| >>>repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
>| >| >| >>>>-----Original Message-----
>| >| >| >>>>It still opens in three seconds.
>| >| >| >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>| >| >| >>>>>You can download the manual from the
>| manufacturer's
>| >| >| >www
>| >| >| >>>>site. What happens
>| >| >| >>>>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing
it?
>| >| >| >>>>>--
>| >| >| >>>>>Jeff Richards
>| >| >| >>>>>MS MVP W95/W98
>| >| >| >>>>>"Charles"
>
>| >| wrote
>| >| >| >>in
>| >| >| >>>>message
>| >| >| >>>>>news:1853b01c44aa2$ead60b30
...
>| >| >| >>>>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no
CD
>| in
>| >| the
>| >| >| >>>>tray.
>| >| >| >>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>| >| >| >>>>>> >You should consult the users manual for
the
>| >| >| >>>particular
>| >| >| >>>>CD
>| >| >| >>>>>> drive that is
>| >| >| >>>>>> >installed, however for some drives this
will
>| >| >| happen
>| >| >| >>if
>| >| >| >>>>>> the CD drive detects
>| >| >| >>>>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This
>| could
>| >| be
>| >| >| >>>>>> happening with a good CD
>| >| >| >>>>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
>| >| >| >>>>>> >--
>| >| >| >>>>>> >Jeff Richards
>| >| >| >>>>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
>| >| >| >>>>>> >"Charles"
>| >
>| >| >| >>wrote
>| >| >| >>>>in
>| >| >| >>>>>> message
>| >| >| >>>>>> >news:1800f01c449de$0478a7c0
>| ...
>| >| >| >>>>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank
the
>| >| >| >people
>| >| >| >>>>that
>| >| >| >>>>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the
>| problem
>| >| so
>| >| >| >>>here
>| >| >| >>>>is
>| >| >| >>>>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD
tray
>| to
>| >| >| >open
>| >| >| >>>>about
>| >| >| >>>>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC?
If I
>| >| >| close
>| >| >| >>>the
>| >| >| >>>>>> tray
>| >| >| >>>>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
>| >| >| >>>>>> >
>| >| >| >>>>>> >.
>| >| >| >>>>>> >
>| >| >| >>>>>
>| >| >| >>>>>.
>| >| >| >>>>>
>| >| >| >>>>.
>| >| >| >>>>
>| >| >| >>>.
>| >| >| >>>
>| >| >| >>.
>| >| >| >>
>| >| >| >.
>| >| >| >
>| >| >
>| >| >
>| >| >.
>| >| >
>| >
>| >
>| >.
>| >
>
>
>.
>

Charles

June 17th 04, 04:33 AM

No, I did not.
>-----Original Message-----
>Did you get the manual from the manufacturer like I
suggested? I am very
>confident that it will list the behaviour you are
experiencing as a standard
>symptom of a faulty drive.
>--
>Jeff Richards
>MS MVP (DTS)
>"Charles" > wrote in
message
...
>> No, I have not tried it in DOS. The CD tray has the same
>> symptoms in Safe Mode and in the normal mode.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Well, are you implying that the CD tray behaves the same
>> in Safe Mode &
>>>in DOS? Or will it stay closed and function? Actually,
>> here is how to
>>>use the CD-ROM in Safe Mode...
>>>
>>>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194846
>>>Access CD-ROM in Safe Mode
>>>
>>>If it behaves the same, then ppoatt was dead right all
>> along! It must be
>>>a hardware problem, an O-Ring gone bad!
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Thanks or Good Luck,
>>>There may be humor in this post, and,
>>>Naturally, you will not sue,
>>>should things get worse after this,
>>>PCR

>>>"Charles" > wrote in
>> message
...
>>>| I tried the safe mode boot, but no help. I also made a
>>>| startup disk but have not discovered anything. The CD
>> tray
>>>| is still opening and staying open.
>>>| >-----Original Message-----
>>>| >Ppoatt is on his way to Mars to repair the rover. I
>> will
>>>| take over now.
>>>| >Have you seen these URLs...
>>>| >
>>>| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
>>>| US;q237948
>>>| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
>>>| >
>>>| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
>>>| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
>>>| >
>>>| >I guess, a first try would be...
>>>| >
>>>| >(1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold
>> CTRL
>>>| for the
>>>| >Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.)
>>>| >(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device
>>>| Manager tab".
>>>| >(3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking it's plus
sign.
>>>| >(4) Highlight each drive in that branch, &
>> click "Remove".
>>>| > (Safe Mode may reveal the presence of
a "ghost".)
>>>| >(5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.
>>>| >
>>>| >Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, &
all
>>>| will be well.
>>>| >
>>>| >As cquirke once said, "Control Panel, System,
>> Performance
>>>| tab". Are you
>>>| >in "compatibility" mode? Then, try his site...
>>>| >http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm
>>>| >
>>>| >Also...
>>>| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
>>>| us;130179&Product=w98
>>>| >Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard
Disks
>>>| >(130179) - The Performance tab in System properties
>> shows
>>>| that one or
>>>| >more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-
DOS
>>>| Compatibility
>>>| >mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either
>> for
>>>| the file system
>>>| >or for virtual memory. You may receive the...
>>>| >
>>>| >Also...
>>>| >
>>>| >To see whether the CD-ROM is physically functioning,
it
>>>| can be run
>>>| >independently of Windows...
>>>| >
>>>| >Get a Startup Diskette from
>>>| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have
>> one
>>>| from "Control
>>>| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test
the
>>>| Startup
>>>| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It
>> will
>>>| say which
>>>| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
>>>| higher than
>>>| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
>>>| letter.
>>>| >
>>>| >If you cannot boot the Startup Diskette, you must be
>> sent
>>>| into BIOS. If
>>>| >the CD-ROM does work in DOS after the Diskette has
>> boot,
>>>| it is likely
>>>| >there is a problem with the Windows 32-bit drivers or
>>>| settings.
>>>| >
>>>| >
>>>| >--
>>>| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>>>| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>>>| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>>>| >should things get worse after this,
>>>| >PCR
>>>|
>>>| >"Charles" > wrote
>> in
>>>| message
>>>| ...
>>>| >| Today I took the CD drive out of the box and
examined
>>>| it.
>>>| >| There were no obvious defects. I put the CD drive
>> back
>>>| in
>>>| >| the box and reconnected all the cables. I turned on
>> the
>>>| PC
>>>| >| and the tray opened within three seconds. Now what?
>>>| >| Somewhere I read that there is a trojan that can
>> cause
>>>| >| this. Have you heard of it?
>>>| >| >-----Original Message-----
>>>| >| >Please post back on what you find. I'm curious.
>>>| >| > Plus it may help someone else.
>>>| >| >>-----Original Message-----
>>>| >| >>Thanks for making the experiment. The three
second
>>>| time
>>>| >| >is
>>>| >| >>interesting since mine also takes three seconds.I
>> will
>>>| >| >>have to look in the box to see if I can detect a
>>>| >| >>mechanical failure.
>>>| >| >>>-----Original Message-----
>>>| >| >>>Ok...I answered you on the first post.
>>>| >| >>>I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across
the
>>>| >| >>opening
>>>| >| >>>and closed it. Where the tray could not go
>> completely
>>>| >| >>>home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
>>>| >| >>>So the unit is not registering that it is
>>>| closed/home.
>>>| >| >>>The drive that opens and closes the tray is
>> either a
>>>| >| >rack
>>>| >| >>>and pinion or rack and worm gear. A worm gear
>>>| drive,it,
>>>| >| >>>should not matter. But a pinion gear type,may,if
>> it
>>>| >| >>jumped
>>>| >| >>>a tooth on the rack.
>>>| >| >>> I would say that is a possible cause.
>>>| >| >>>Another as mentioned in my other answer is a
>> faulty
>>>| >| >>>electric latch.
>>>| >| >>> And the last is... the manual trip is stuck in
>> the
>>>| >| >>>release position.
>>>| >| >>> Unless you want to try and fix it yourself. The
>> cost
>>>| >| of
>>>| >| >>a
>>>| >| >>>repair would be more then a new CD-Rom.
>>>| >| >>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>| >| >>>>It still opens in three seconds.
>>>| >| >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>| >| >>>>>You can download the manual from the
>> manufacturer's
>>>| >| >www
>>>| >| >>>>site. What happens
>>>| >| >>>>>if you load a CD in the tray before closing
it?
>>>| >| >>>>>--
>>>| >| >>>>>Jeff Richards
>>>| >| >>>>>MS MVP W95/W98
>>>| >| >>>>>"Charles"
>
>>>| wrote
>>>| >| >>in
>>>| >| >>>>message
>>>| >| >>>>>news:1853b01c44aa2$ead60b30
...
>>>| >| >>>>>> I do not have a users manual. There is no CD
>> in
>>>| the
>>>| >| >>>>tray.
>>>| >| >>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>| >| >>>>>> >You should consult the users manual for the
>>>| >| >>>particular
>>>| >| >>>>CD
>>>| >| >>>>>> drive that is
>>>| >| >>>>>> >installed, however for some drives this
will
>>>| >| happen
>>>| >| >>if
>>>| >| >>>>>> the CD drive detects
>>>| >| >>>>>> >that the CD in the drive is faulty. This
>> could
>>>| be
>>>| >| >>>>>> happening with a good CD
>>>| >| >>>>>> >if the drive itself is faulty.
>>>| >| >>>>>> >--
>>>| >| >>>>>> >Jeff Richards
>>>| >| >>>>>> >MS MVP W95/W98
>>>| >| >>>>>> >"Charles"
>> >
>>>| >| >>wrote
>>>| >| >>>>in
>>>| >| >>>>>> message
>>>| >| >>>>>> >news:1800f01c449de$0478a7c0
>> ...
>>>| >| >>>>>> >> I posted this on May 31, 2004 and thank
the
>>>| >| >people
>>>| >| >>>>that
>>>| >| >>>>>> >> tried to help. I have not solved the
>> problem
>>>| so
>>>| >| >>>here
>>>| >| >>>>is
>>>| >| >>>>>> >> the same question. What causes the CD
tray
>> to
>>>| >| >open
>>>| >| >>>>about
>>>| >| >>>>>> >> three seconds after turning on the PC?
If I
>>>| >| close
>>>| >| >>>the
>>>| >| >>>>>> tray
>>>| >| >>>>>> >> manually it reopens in three seconds.
>>>| >| >>>>>> >
>>>| >| >>>>>> >.
>>>| >| >>>>>> >
>>>| >| >>>>>
>>>| >| >>>>>.
>>>| >| >>>>>
>>>| >| >>>>.
>>>| >| >>>>
>>>| >| >>>.
>>>| >| >>>
>>>| >| >>.
>>>| >| >>
>>>| >| >.
>>>| >| >
>>>| >
>>>| >
>>>| >.
>>>| >
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>
>
>.
>

PCR

June 17th 04, 04:50 AM

Get a Startup Diskette from
http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the Startup
Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will say which
letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter higher than
normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM letter.

See what happens with a Startup Diskette! It may somehow reset or
initialize something in the CD-ROM. Otherwise, try those articles or
what Richards said!

BETTER DO IT, or I WILL send the MVPs after you, MEANER ones than
Richards!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
| I do not know. All I did was start the pc in safe Mode.
| The Cd tray opened in the three seconds.
| >-----Original Message-----
| >You.. activated the CD-ROM.. in Safe Mode, per that
| article I posted?
| >Then, it was using the DOS driver. I guess it is a
| hardware error, as it
| >behaves the same in Safe & Normal Modes, two different
| drivers.
| >Therefore...
| >
| >Open the box, & un/re-plug it, the data & power wires.
| Also...
| >
| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
| US;q237948
| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
| >
| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
| >
| >
| >--
| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >should things get worse after this,
| >PCR
|
....snip

Charles

June 17th 04, 04:59 AM

How do I test the startup diskette?
>-----Original Message-----
>Get a Startup Diskette from
>http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one
from "Control
>Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
Startup
>Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will
say which
>letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
higher than
>normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
letter.
>
>See what happens with a Startup Diskette! It may somehow
reset or
>initialize something in the CD-ROM. Otherwise, try those
articles or
>what Richards said!
>
>BETTER DO IT, or I WILL send the MVPs after you, MEANER
ones than
>Richards!
>
>
>--
>Thanks or Good Luck,
>There may be humor in this post, and,
>Naturally, you will not sue,
>should things get worse after this,
>PCR

>"Charles" > wrote in
message
...
>| I do not know. All I did was start the pc in safe Mode.
>| The Cd tray opened in the three seconds.
>| >-----Original Message-----
>| >You.. activated the CD-ROM.. in Safe Mode, per that
>| article I posted?
>| >Then, it was using the DOS driver. I guess it is a
>| hardware error, as it
>| >behaves the same in Safe & Normal Modes, two different
>| drivers.
>| >Therefore...
>| >
>| >Open the box, & un/re-plug it, the data & power wires.
>| Also...
>| >
>| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
>| US;q237948
>| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
>| >
>| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
>| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
>| >
>| >
>| >--
>| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >should things get worse after this,
>| >PCR
>|
>....snip
>
>
>.
>

PCR

June 17th 04, 09:48 PM

I just SAID...!...

Get a Startup Diskette from
http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the Startup
Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will say which
letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter higher than
normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM letter.

Just do a few DIR, I guess, as stated.
"DIR /?" (no quotes) will say what it can do.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
| How do I test the startup diskette?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Get a Startup Diskette from
| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one
| from "Control
| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
| Startup
| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will
| say which
| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
| higher than
| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
| letter.
| >
| >See what happens with a Startup Diskette! It may somehow
| reset or
| >initialize something in the CD-ROM. Otherwise, try those
| articles or
| >what Richards said!
| >
| >BETTER DO IT, or I WILL send the MVPs after you, MEANER
| ones than
| >Richards!
| >
| >
| >--
| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >should things get worse after this,
| >PCR
|
| >"Charles" > wrote in
| message
| ...
| >| I do not know. All I did was start the pc in safe Mode.
| >| The Cd tray opened in the three seconds.
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >You.. activated the CD-ROM.. in Safe Mode, per that
| >| article I posted?
| >| >Then, it was using the DOS driver. I guess it is a
| >| hardware error, as it
| >| >behaves the same in Safe & Normal Modes, two different
| >| drivers.
| >| >Therefore...
| >| >
| >| >Open the box, & un/re-plug it, the data & power wires.
| >| Also...
| >| >
| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
| >| US;q237948
| >| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
| >| >
| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
| >| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >--
| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >| >should things get worse after this,
| >| >PCR
| >|
| >....snip
| >
| >
| >.
| >

Charles

June 18th 04, 04:27 AM

I put the startup diskette in the A drive. The prompt says
A:> What do I do next?
>-----Original Message-----
>I just SAID...!...
>
>Get a Startup Diskette from
>http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one
from "Control
>Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
Startup
>Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will
say which
>letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
higher than
>normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
letter.
>
>Just do a few DIR, I guess, as stated.
>"DIR /?" (no quotes) will say what it can do.
>
>
>--
>Thanks or Good Luck,
>There may be humor in this post, and,
>Naturally, you will not sue,
>should things get worse after this,
>PCR

>"Charles" > wrote in
message
...
>| How do I test the startup diskette?
>| >-----Original Message-----
>| >Get a Startup Diskette from
>| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have
one
>| from "Control
>| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
>| Startup
>| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It
will
>| say which
>| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
>| higher than
>| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
>| letter.
>| >
>| >See what happens with a Startup Diskette! It may
somehow
>| reset or
>| >initialize something in the CD-ROM. Otherwise, try
those
>| articles or
>| >what Richards said!
>| >
>| >BETTER DO IT, or I WILL send the MVPs after you, MEANER
>| ones than
>| >Richards!
>| >
>| >
>| >--
>| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >should things get worse after this,
>| >PCR
>|
>| >"Charles" > wrote
in
>| message
>| ...
>| >| I do not know. All I did was start the pc in safe
Mode.
>| >| The Cd tray opened in the three seconds.
>| >| >-----Original Message-----
>| >| >You.. activated the CD-ROM.. in Safe Mode, per that
>| >| article I posted?
>| >| >Then, it was using the DOS driver. I guess it is a
>| >| hardware error, as it
>| >| >behaves the same in Safe & Normal Modes, two
different
>| >| drivers.
>| >| >Therefore...
>| >| >
>| >| >Open the box, & un/re-plug it, the data & power
wires.
>| >| Also...
>| >| >
>| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=KB;EN-
>| >| US;q237948
>| >| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
>| >| >
>| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
>| >| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
>| >| >
>| >| >
>| >| >--
>| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >| >should things get worse after this,
>| >| >PCR
>| >|
>| >....snip
>| >
>| >
>| >.
>| >
>
>
>.
>

Charles

June 18th 04, 04:27 AM

PCR

June 18th 04, 05:31 AM

Follow the rest of the instructions... put in a CD, & DIR it. Likely, it
won't be a miracle cure. Then, go read those URLs or respond to
Richards.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
| I put the startup diskette in the A drive. The prompt says
| A:> What do I do next?
| >-----Original Message-----
| >I just SAID...!...
| >
| >Get a Startup Diskette from
| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one
| from "Control
| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
| Startup
| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will
| say which
| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
| higher than
| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
| letter.
| >
| >Just do a few DIR, I guess, as stated.
| >"DIR /?" (no quotes) will say what it can do.
| >
| >
| >--
| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >should things get worse after this,
| >PCR
|
| >"Charles" > wrote in
| message
| ...
| >| How do I test the startup diskette?
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >Get a Startup Diskette from
| >| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have
| one
| >| from "Control
| >| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
| >| Startup
| >| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It
| will
| >| say which
| >| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
| >| higher than
| >| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
| >| letter.
| >| >
| >| >See what happens with a Startup Diskette! It may
| somehow
| >| reset or
| >| >initialize something in the CD-ROM. Otherwise, try
| those
| >| articles or
| >| >what Richards said!
| >| >
| >| >BETTER DO IT, or I WILL send the MVPs after you, MEANER
| >| ones than
| >| >Richards!
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >--
| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >| >should things get worse after this,
| >| >PCR
| >|
| >| >"Charles" > wrote
| in
| >| message
| >| ...
| >| >| I do not know. All I did was start the pc in safe
| Mode.
| >| >| The Cd tray opened in the three seconds.
| >| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >| >You.. activated the CD-ROM.. in Safe Mode, per that
| >| >| article I posted?
| >| >| >Then, it was using the DOS driver. I guess it is a
| >| >| hardware error, as it
| >| >| >behaves the same in Safe & Normal Modes, two
| different
| >| >| drivers.
| >| >| >Therefore...
| >| >| >
| >| >| >Open the box, & un/re-plug it, the data & power
| wires.
| >| >| Also...
| >| >| >
| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| scid=KB;EN-
| >| >| US;q237948
| >| >| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
| >| >| >
| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
| >| >| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
| >| >| >
| >| >| >
| >| >| >--
| >| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >| >| >should things get worse after this,
| >| >| >PCR
| >| >|
| >| >....snip
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >.
| >| >
| >
| >
| >.
| >

Charles

June 18th 04, 08:55 PM

I put a CD in the tray and closed the door. The door
opened within three seconds. If I type DIR at the A
prompt, the screen shows 21 files.Thanks for your patience.
>-----Original Message-----
>Follow the rest of the instructions... put in a CD, & DIR
it. Likely, it
>won't be a miracle cure. Then, go read those URLs or
respond to
>Richards.
>
>--
>Thanks or Good Luck,
>There may be humor in this post, and,
>Naturally, you will not sue,
>should things get worse after this,
>PCR

>"Charles" > wrote in
message
...
>| I put the startup diskette in the A drive. The prompt
says
>| A:> What do I do next?
>| >-----Original Message-----
>| >I just SAID...!...
>| >
>| >Get a Startup Diskette from
>| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have
one
>| from "Control
>| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
>| Startup
>| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It
will
>| say which
>| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
>| higher than
>| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
>| letter.
>| >
>| >Just do a few DIR, I guess, as stated.
>| >"DIR /?" (no quotes) will say what it can do.
>| >
>| >
>| >--
>| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >should things get worse after this,
>| >PCR
>|
>| >"Charles" > wrote
in
>| message
>| ...
>| >| How do I test the startup diskette?
>| >| >-----Original Message-----
>| >| >Get a Startup Diskette from
>| >| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have
>| one
>| >| from "Control
>| >| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test
the
>| >| Startup
>| >| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It
>| will
>| >| say which
>| >| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one
letter
>| >| higher than
>| >| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-
ROM
>| >| letter.
>| >| >
>| >| >See what happens with a Startup Diskette! It may
>| somehow
>| >| reset or
>| >| >initialize something in the CD-ROM. Otherwise, try
>| those
>| >| articles or
>| >| >what Richards said!
>| >| >
>| >| >BETTER DO IT, or I WILL send the MVPs after you,
MEANER
>| >| ones than
>| >| >Richards!
>| >| >
>| >| >
>| >| >--
>| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >| >should things get worse after this,
>| >| >PCR
>| >|
>| >| >"Charles" >
wrote
>| in
>| >| message
>| >| ...
>| >| >| I do not know. All I did was start the pc in safe
>| Mode.
>| >| >| The Cd tray opened in the three seconds.
>| >| >| >-----Original Message-----
>| >| >| >You.. activated the CD-ROM.. in Safe Mode, per
that
>| >| >| article I posted?
>| >| >| >Then, it was using the DOS driver. I guess it is
a
>| >| >| hardware error, as it
>| >| >| >behaves the same in Safe & Normal Modes, two
>| different
>| >| >| drivers.
>| >| >| >Therefore...
>| >| >| >
>| >| >| >Open the box, & un/re-plug it, the data & power
>| wires.
>| >| >| Also...
>| >| >| >
>| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
>| scid=KB;EN-
>| >| >| US;q237948
>| >| >| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
>| >| >| >
>| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
>| >| >| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
>| >| >| >
>| >| >| >
>| >| >| >--
>| >| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >| >| >should things get worse after this,
>| >| >| >PCR
>| >| >|
>| >| >....snip
>| >| >
>| >| >
>| >| >.
>| >| >
>| >
>| >
>| >.
>| >
>
>
>.
>

PCR

June 18th 04, 10:39 PM

I guess it is a hardware problem, as it behaves the same in DOS & Normal
Modes, two different drivers. Therefore...

(1) Open the box, & un/re-plug it, the data & power wires.

(2) Look around for a dirty sensor or something. Remember ppoatt's
O-Ring tests...?...
.......Quote......................
"ppoatt" > wrote in message
...
| Ok...I answered you on the first post.
| I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the opening
| and closed it. Where the tray could not go completely
| home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
| So the unit is not registering that it is closed/home.
....snip
........Unquote..................
So, is it closing fully, or is the door loose/wobbly?

(3) Respond to Richards.

(4) Try these articles...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;q237948
Troubleshoot CD-R_W

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
| I put a CD in the tray and closed the door. The door
| opened within three seconds. If I type DIR at the A
| prompt, the screen shows 21 files.Thanks for your patience.
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Follow the rest of the instructions... put in a CD, & DIR
| it. Likely, it
| >won't be a miracle cure. Then, go read those URLs or
| respond to
| >Richards.
| >
| >--
| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >should things get worse after this,
| >PCR
|
| >"Charles" > wrote in
| message
| ...
| >| I put the startup diskette in the A drive. The prompt
| says
| >| A:> What do I do next?
| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >I just SAID...!...
| >| >
| >| >Get a Startup Diskette from
| >| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have
| one
| >| from "Control
| >| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
| >| Startup
| >| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It
| will
| >| say which
| >| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
| >| higher than
| >| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-ROM
| >| letter.
| >| >
| >| >Just do a few DIR, I guess, as stated.
| >| >"DIR /?" (no quotes) will say what it can do.
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >--
| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >| >should things get worse after this,
| >| >PCR
| >|
| >| >"Charles" > wrote
| in
| >| message
| >| ...
| >| >| How do I test the startup diskette?
| >| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >| >Get a Startup Diskette from
| >| >| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have
| >| one
| >| >| from "Control
| >| >| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test
| the
| >| >| Startup
| >| >| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It
| >| will
| >| >| say which
| >| >| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one
| letter
| >| >| higher than
| >| >| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-
| ROM
| >| >| letter.
| >| >| >
| >| >| >See what happens with a Startup Diskette! It may
| >| somehow
| >| >| reset or
| >| >| >initialize something in the CD-ROM. Otherwise, try
| >| those
| >| >| articles or
| >| >| >what Richards said!
| >| >| >
| >| >| >BETTER DO IT, or I WILL send the MVPs after you,
| MEANER
| >| >| ones than
| >| >| >Richards!
| >| >| >
| >| >| >
| >| >| >--
| >| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >| >| >should things get worse after this,
| >| >| >PCR
| >| >|
| >| >| >"Charles" >
| wrote
| >| in
| >| >| message
| >| >| ...
| >| >| >| I do not know. All I did was start the pc in safe
| >| Mode.
| >| >| >| The Cd tray opened in the three seconds.
| >| >| >| >-----Original Message-----
| >| >| >| >You.. activated the CD-ROM.. in Safe Mode, per
| that
| >| >| >| article I posted?
| >| >| >| >Then, it was using the DOS driver. I guess it is
| a
| >| >| >| hardware error, as it
| >| >| >| >behaves the same in Safe & Normal Modes, two
| >| different
| >| >| >| drivers.
| >| >| >| >Therefore...
| >| >| >| >
| >| >| >| >Open the box, & un/re-plug it, the data & power
| >| wires.
| >| >| >| Also...
| >| >| >| >
| >| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
| >| scid=KB;EN-
| >| >| >| US;q237948
| >| >| >| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
| >| >| >| >
| >| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
| >| >| >| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
| >| >| >| >
| >| >| >| >
| >| >| >| >--
| >| >| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >| >| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >| >| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >| >| >| >should things get worse after this,
| >| >| >| >PCR
| >| >| >|
| >| >| >....snip
| >| >| >
| >| >| >
| >| >| >.
| >| >| >
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >.
| >| >
| >
| >
| >.
| >

Charles

June 27th 04, 03:44 AM

To PCR, ppoatt, and Jeff,
I took the CD drive out and tried to use it in another
PC.The tray opened in three seconds. Hardware! Is it
fixable? Where is the "O-ring" message. I actually
remember the shuttle O-ring problem but never looked up
the ppoatt O-ring message. Thanks.
>-----Original Message-----
>I guess it is a hardware problem, as it behaves the same
in DOS & Normal
>Modes, two different drivers. Therefore...
>
>(1) Open the box, & un/re-plug it, the data & power wires.
>
>(2) Look around for a dirty sensor or something. Remember
ppoatt's
>O-Ring tests...?...
>.......Quote......................
>"ppoatt" > wrote in
message
...
>| Ok...I answered you on the first post.
>| I opened my cd tray and put a wire tire across the
opening
>| and closed it. Where the tray could not go completely
>| home. In exactly 3 seconds it opened.
>| So the unit is not registering that it is closed/home.
>....snip
>........Unquote..................
>So, is it closing fully, or is the door loose/wobbly?
>
>(3) Respond to Richards.
>
>(4) Try these articles...
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-
US;q237948
>Troubleshoot CD-R_W
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
>Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
>
>
>--
>Thanks or Good Luck,
>There may be humor in this post, and,
>Naturally, you will not sue,
>should things get worse after this,
>PCR

>"Charles" > wrote in
message
...
>| I put a CD in the tray and closed the door. The door
>| opened within three seconds. If I type DIR at the A
>| prompt, the screen shows 21 files.Thanks for your
patience.
>| >-----Original Message-----
>| >Follow the rest of the instructions... put in a CD, &
DIR
>| it. Likely, it
>| >won't be a miracle cure. Then, go read those URLs or
>| respond to
>| >Richards.
>| >
>| >--
>| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >should things get worse after this,
>| >PCR
>|
>| >"Charles" > wrote
in
>| message
>| ...
>| >| I put the startup diskette in the A drive. The prompt
>| says
>| >| A:> What do I do next?
>| >| >-----Original Message-----
>| >| >I just SAID...!...
>| >| >
>| >| >Get a Startup Diskette from
>| >| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have
>| one
>| >| from "Control
>| >| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test
the
>| >| Startup
>| >| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It
>| will
>| >| say which
>| >| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one
letter
>| >| higher than
>| >| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the CD-
ROM
>| >| letter.
>| >| >
>| >| >Just do a few DIR, I guess, as stated.
>| >| >"DIR /?" (no quotes) will say what it can do.
>| >| >
>| >| >
>| >| >--
>| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >| >should things get worse after this,
>| >| >PCR
>| >|
>| >| >"Charles" >
wrote
>| in
>| >| message
>| >| ...
>| >| >| How do I test the startup diskette?
>| >| >| >-----Original Message-----
>| >| >| >Get a Startup Diskette from
>| >| >| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already
have
>| >| one
>| >| >| from "Control
>| >| >| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab".
Test
>| the
>| >| >| Startup
>| >| >| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD.
It
>| >| will
>| >| >| say which
>| >| >| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one
>| letter
>| >| >| higher than
>| >| >| >normal.) That is, "DIR X:", where "X:" is the
CD-
>| ROM
>| >| >| letter.
>| >| >| >
>| >| >| >See what happens with a Startup Diskette! It may
>| >| somehow
>| >| >| reset or
>| >| >| >initialize something in the CD-ROM. Otherwise,
try
>| >| those
>| >| >| articles or
>| >| >| >what Richards said!
>| >| >| >
>| >| >| >BETTER DO IT, or I WILL send the MVPs after you,
>| MEANER
>| >| >| ones than
>| >| >| >Richards!
>| >| >| >
>| >| >| >
>| >| >| >--
>| >| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >| >| >should things get worse after this,
>| >| >| >PCR
>| >| >|
>| >| >| >"Charles" >
>| wrote
>| >| in
>| >| >| message
>| >| >| ...
>| >| >| >| I do not know. All I did was start the pc in
safe
>| >| Mode.
>| >| >| >| The Cd tray opened in the three seconds.
>| >| >| >| >-----Original Message-----
>| >| >| >| >You.. activated the CD-ROM.. in Safe Mode, per
>| that
>| >| >| >| article I posted?
>| >| >| >| >Then, it was using the DOS driver. I guess it
is
>| a
>| >| >| >| hardware error, as it
>| >| >| >| >behaves the same in Safe & Normal Modes, two
>| >| different
>| >| >| >| drivers.
>| >| >| >| >Therefore...
>| >| >| >| >
>| >| >| >| >Open the box, & un/re-plug it, the data &
power
>| >| wires.
>| >| >| >| Also...
>| >| >| >| >
>| >| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
>| >| scid=KB;EN-
>| >| >| >| US;q237948
>| >| >| >| >Troubleshoot CD-R_W
>| >| >| >| >
>| >| >| >| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
>| >| >| >| >Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM
>| >| >| >| >
>| >| >| >| >
>| >| >| >| >--
>| >| >| >| >Thanks or Good Luck,
>| >| >| >| >There may be humor in this post, and,
>| >| >| >| >Naturally, you will not sue,
>| >| >| >| >should things get worse after this,
>| >| >| >| >PCR
>| >| >| >|
>| >| >| >....snip
>| >| >| >
>| >| >| >
>| >| >| >.
>| >| >| >
>| >| >
>| >| >
>| >| >.
>| >| >
>| >
>| >
>| >.
>| >
>
>
>.
>