can't defrag or scandisk drive D

[John]

I keep getting a windows doesn't have enough memory error
when I try to defrag or run scandisk for my D drive. It
will scan my drive, C and E but not D. Not even in DOS, I
typed A:\scandisk D: and it says it's the wrong command. I
need to defrag and run scandisk on that drive soon and I
don't know what to do. I have only the major programs
running like maybe 5 and I even cut some of them down and
I still get a memory error. Please help!!!

[Bert Kinney]

Hi John,

This error message can be caused by a non standard cluster size for a disk
partition.
To check the cluster size, run Chkdsk at the DOS prompt and look for "Bytes
in each
allocation unit" and "Total disk space" then compare it with the table
below.


The following tables lists the default cluster sizes used by the FAT32 file
system.
Partition size Cluster size
-----------------------------------------------------------
512 MB to 8,191 MB 4 KB
8,192 MB to 16,383 MB 8 KB
16,384 MB to 32,767 MB 16 KB
Larger than 32,768 MB 32 KB

Description of Default Cluster Sizes for FAT32 File System
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q192/3/22.asp

Your computer does not have enough free memory to defrag or run Scandisk
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q229/1/54.asp

Solutions:

1. Return the system the builder and have them reset
the cluster size. They should be able to do it without
loosing all the data on the drive.

2. Use Fdisk to remove all the partitions on the drive
loosing all data and recreate them and do a clean install of Windows.

3. Reset the cluster size using Partition Magic. If you don't
have it, it will cost you. No free trial. In Partition Magic:
Go to operations/advanced/resize clusters.
PowerQuest PartitionMagic - Product Information:
http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/index.html

4. Reset a non-default cluster size using BootIt NG (BING) from Terabyte

A full featured 30 day free trial of BING can be downloaded at
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/

IMPORTANT: There is a slight possibility of data loss, so it's
recommended to back-up all important data before proceeding.

If the partition with the incorrect cluster size is the partition where
BING is installed, this operation will need to be preformed using
the BING floppy disk.

Install BING is not necessary to perform this function. Skip
the install and enter Maintenance mode.

1) Download and extract the BOOTITNG.ZIP file to its own directory.
2) Change to the directory used in step 1.
3) Type BOOTITNG then press <enter> or Windows users can double click on
BOOTITNG.EXE.
4) If you have accepted the terms, select the correct diskette drive from
the menu and press <enter>. You will be prompted to insert the diskette and
press enter when ready.
5) Insert the diskette in to the correct diskette drive and press enter.
After about a minute it will confirm either that the installation diskette
was created or that the diskette is bad.
6) If the diskette was bad, get a new formatted diskette and repeat the
appropriate steps; otherwise, you're done with step one.

Boot from the Installation Diskette
1) Make sure your system boot up sequence is A:/C: and not C:/A:. This
information is found in the CMOS setup. You should also disable the boot
sector virus protection option. If you leave the virus protection option
enabled then it will just get in the way.
2) Shut down and turn off your computer.
3) Insert the BootIt NG installation diskette in your A: drive then turn on
your computer.
4) If your system boots up as it normally does, see step 1, otherwise BootIt
NG will start to load from the diskette.

Start BING and click on Maintenance.
Click on Partition Work
Select the partition with the incorrect cluster size
Click Resize then OK ("Checking for errors" will appear)
Click Resize Without changing the size of the partition
A Warning to back-up all important data will be displayed
The resulting cluster size will also be displayed
Click Continue
When completed, click Close and Close again
Reboot and that should do it.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/
How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164

"John" wrote
> I keep getting a windows doesn't have enough memory error
> when I try to defrag or run scandisk for my D drive. It
> will scan my drive, C and E but not D. Not even in DOS, I
> typed A:\scandisk D: and it says it's the wrong command. I
> need to defrag and run scandisk on that drive soon and I
> don't know what to do. I have only the major programs
> running like maybe 5 and I even cut some of them down and
> I still get a memory error. Please help!!!

[John]

Thanks, the cluster size was too small. I thought when
you resize the partition it automatically set things. Now
it's working great........thanks!

John




>This error message can be caused by a non standard
cluster size for a disk
>partition.
>To check the cluster size, run Chkdsk at the DOS prompt
and look for "Bytes
>in each
>allocation unit" and "Total disk space" then compare it
with the table
>below.
>
>
>The following tables lists the default cluster sizes used
by the FAT32 file
>system.
> Partition size Cluster size
> -------------------------------------------------------
----
> 512 MB to 8,191 MB 4 KB
> 8,192 MB to 16,383 MB 8 KB
> 16,384 MB to 32,767 MB 16 KB
> Larger than 32,768 MB 32 KB
>
>Description of Default Cluster Sizes for FAT32 File System
>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q192/3/22
..asp
>
>Your computer does not have enough free memory to defrag
or run Scandisk
>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q229/1/54
..asp
>
>Solutions:
>
>1. Return the system the builder and have them reset
>the cluster size. They should be able to do it without
>loosing all the data on the drive.
>
>2. Use Fdisk to remove all the partitions on the drive
>loosing all data and recreate them and do a clean install
of Windows.
>
>3. Reset the cluster size using Partition Magic. If you
don't
>have it, it will cost you. No free trial. In Partition
Magic:
>Go to operations/advanced/resize clusters.
>PowerQuest PartitionMagic - Product Information:
>http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/index.html
>
>4. Reset a non-default cluster size using BootIt NG
(BING) from Terabyte
>
>A full featured 30 day free trial of BING can be
downloaded at
>http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/
>
>IMPORTANT: There is a slight possibility of data loss, so
it's
>recommended to back-up all important data before
proceeding.
>
>If the partition with the incorrect cluster size is the
partition where
>BING is installed, this operation will need to be
preformed using
>the BING floppy disk.
>
>Install BING is not necessary to perform this function.
Skip
>the install and enter Maintenance mode.
>
>1) Download and extract the BOOTITNG.ZIP file to its own
directory.
>2) Change to the directory used in step 1.
>3) Type BOOTITNG then press <enter> or Windows users can
double click on
>BOOTITNG.EXE.
>4) If you have accepted the terms, select the correct
diskette drive from
>the menu and press <enter>. You will be prompted to
insert the diskette and
>press enter when ready.
>5) Insert the diskette in to the correct diskette drive
and press enter.
>After about a minute it will confirm either that the
installation diskette
>was created or that the diskette is bad.
>6) If the diskette was bad, get a new formatted diskette
and repeat the
>appropriate steps; otherwise, you're done with step one.
>
>Boot from the Installation Diskette
>1) Make sure your system boot up sequence is A:/C: and
not C:/A:. This
>information is found in the CMOS setup. You should also
disable the boot
>sector virus protection option. If you leave the virus
protection option
>enabled then it will just get in the way.
>2) Shut down and turn off your computer.
>3) Insert the BootIt NG installation diskette in your A:
drive then turn on
>your computer.
>4) If your system boots up as it normally does, see step
1, otherwise BootIt
>NG will start to load from the diskette.
>
>Start BING and click on Maintenance.
>Click on Partition Work
>Select the partition with the incorrect cluster size
>Click Resize then OK ("Checking for errors" will appear)
>Click Resize Without changing the size of the partition
>A Warning to back-up all important data will be displayed
>The resulting cluster size will also be displayed
>Click Continue
>When completed, click Close and Close again
>Reboot and that should do it.
>
>--
>Regards,
>Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
>http://dts-l.org/
>How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164
>
>"John" wrote
>> I keep getting a windows doesn't have enough memory
error
>> when I try to defrag or run scandisk for my D drive. It
>> will scan my drive, C and E but not D. Not even in
DOS, I
>> typed A:\scandisk D: and it says it's the wrong
command. I
>> need to defrag and run scandisk on that drive soon and I
>> don't know what to do. I have only the major programs
>> running like maybe 5 and I even cut some of them down
and
>> I still get a memory error. Please help!!!
>
>
>.
>

[Steve Baron - KB3MM]

How did you resize the partition ?

"John" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks, the cluster size was too small. I thought when
> you resize the partition it automatically set things. Now
> it's working great........thanks!
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> >This error message can be caused by a non standard
> cluster size for a disk
> >partition.
> >To check the cluster size, run Chkdsk at the DOS prompt
> and look for "Bytes
> >in each
> >allocation unit" and "Total disk space" then compare it
> with the table
> >below.
> >
> >
> >The following tables lists the default cluster sizes used
> by the FAT32 file
> >system.
> > Partition size Cluster size
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> > 512 MB to 8,191 MB 4 KB
> > 8,192 MB to 16,383 MB 8 KB
> > 16,384 MB to 32,767 MB 16 KB
> > Larger than 32,768 MB 32 KB
> >
> >Description of Default Cluster Sizes for FAT32 File System
> >http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q192/3/22
> .asp
> >
> >Your computer does not have enough free memory to defrag
> or run Scandisk
> >http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q229/1/54
> .asp
> >
> >Solutions:
> >
> >1. Return the system the builder and have them reset
> >the cluster size. They should be able to do it without
> >loosing all the data on the drive.
> >
> >2. Use Fdisk to remove all the partitions on the drive
> >loosing all data and recreate them and do a clean install
> of Windows.
> >
> >3. Reset the cluster size using Partition Magic. If you
> don't
> >have it, it will cost you. No free trial. In Partition
> Magic:
> >Go to operations/advanced/resize clusters.
> >PowerQuest PartitionMagic - Product Information:
> >http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/index.html
> >
> >4. Reset a non-default cluster size using BootIt NG
> (BING) from Terabyte
> >
> >A full featured 30 day free trial of BING can be
> downloaded at
> >http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/
> >
> >IMPORTANT: There is a slight possibility of data loss, so
> it's
> >recommended to back-up all important data before
> proceeding.
> >
> >If the partition with the incorrect cluster size is the
> partition where
> >BING is installed, this operation will need to be
> preformed using
> >the BING floppy disk.
> >
> >Install BING is not necessary to perform this function.
> Skip
> >the install and enter Maintenance mode.
> >
> >1) Download and extract the BOOTITNG.ZIP file to its own
> directory.
> >2) Change to the directory used in step 1.
> >3) Type BOOTITNG then press <enter> or Windows users can
> double click on
> >BOOTITNG.EXE.
> >4) If you have accepted the terms, select the correct
> diskette drive from
> >the menu and press <enter>. You will be prompted to
> insert the diskette and
> >press enter when ready.
> >5) Insert the diskette in to the correct diskette drive
> and press enter.
> >After about a minute it will confirm either that the
> installation diskette
> >was created or that the diskette is bad.
> >6) If the diskette was bad, get a new formatted diskette
> and repeat the
> >appropriate steps; otherwise, you're done with step one.
> >
> >Boot from the Installation Diskette
> >1) Make sure your system boot up sequence is A:/C: and
> not C:/A:. This
> >information is found in the CMOS setup. You should also
> disable the boot
> >sector virus protection option. If you leave the virus
> protection option
> >enabled then it will just get in the way.
> >2) Shut down and turn off your computer.
> >3) Insert the BootIt NG installation diskette in your A:
> drive then turn on
> >your computer.
> >4) If your system boots up as it normally does, see step
> 1, otherwise BootIt
> >NG will start to load from the diskette.
> >
> >Start BING and click on Maintenance.
> >Click on Partition Work
> >Select the partition with the incorrect cluster size
> >Click Resize then OK ("Checking for errors" will appear)
> >Click Resize Without changing the size of the partition
> >A Warning to back-up all important data will be displayed
> >The resulting cluster size will also be displayed
> >Click Continue
> >When completed, click Close and Close again
> >Reboot and that should do it.
> >
> >--
> >Regards,
> >Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
> >http://dts-l.org/
> >How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
> >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164
> >
> >"John" wrote
> >> I keep getting a windows doesn't have enough memory
> error
> >> when I try to defrag or run scandisk for my D drive. It
> >> will scan my drive, C and E but not D. Not even in
> DOS, I
> >> typed A:\scandisk D: and it says it's the wrong
> command. I
> >> need to defrag and run scandisk on that drive soon and I
> >> don't know what to do. I have only the major programs
> >> running like maybe 5 and I even cut some of them down
> and
> >> I still get a memory error. Please help!!!
> >
> >
> >.
> >

[John]

With partiton magic.......had a 80GB and resized it into 3
drives, different sizes....


>-----Original Message-----
>How did you resize the partition ?
>
>"John" > wrote in
message
...
>> Thanks, the cluster size was too small. I thought when
>> you resize the partition it automatically set things.
Now
>> it's working great........thanks!
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >This error message can be caused by a non standard
>> cluster size for a disk
>> >partition.
>> >To check the cluster size, run Chkdsk at the DOS prompt
>> and look for "Bytes
>> >in each
>> >allocation unit" and "Total disk space" then compare it
>> with the table
>> >below.
>> >
>> >
>> >The following tables lists the default cluster sizes
used
>> by the FAT32 file
>> >system.
>> > Partition size Cluster size
>> > ----------------------------------------------------
---
>> ----
>> > 512 MB to 8,191 MB 4 KB
>> > 8,192 MB to 16,383 MB 8 KB
>> > 16,384 MB to 32,767 MB 16 KB
>> > Larger than 32,768 MB 32 KB
>> >
>> >Description of Default Cluster Sizes for FAT32 File
System
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q192/3/22
>> .asp
>> >
>> >Your computer does not have enough free memory to
defrag
>> or run Scandisk
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q229/1/54
>> .asp
>> >
>> >Solutions:
>> >
>> >1. Return the system the builder and have them reset
>> >the cluster size. They should be able to do it without
>> >loosing all the data on the drive.
>> >
>> >2. Use Fdisk to remove all the partitions on the drive
>> >loosing all data and recreate them and do a clean
install
>> of Windows.
>> >
>> >3. Reset the cluster size using Partition Magic. If you
>> don't
>> >have it, it will cost you. No free trial. In Partition
>> Magic:
>> >Go to operations/advanced/resize clusters.
>> >PowerQuest PartitionMagic - Product Information:
>> >http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/index.html
>> >
>> >4. Reset a non-default cluster size using BootIt NG
>> (BING) from Terabyte
>> >
>> >A full featured 30 day free trial of BING can be
>> downloaded at
>> >http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/
>> >
>> >IMPORTANT: There is a slight possibility of data loss,
so
>> it's
>> >recommended to back-up all important data before
>> proceeding.
>> >
>> >If the partition with the incorrect cluster size is the
>> partition where
>> >BING is installed, this operation will need to be
>> preformed using
>> >the BING floppy disk.
>> >
>> >Install BING is not necessary to perform this function.
>> Skip
>> >the install and enter Maintenance mode.
>> >
>> >1) Download and extract the BOOTITNG.ZIP file to its
own
>> directory.
>> >2) Change to the directory used in step 1.
>> >3) Type BOOTITNG then press <enter> or Windows users
can
>> double click on
>> >BOOTITNG.EXE.
>> >4) If you have accepted the terms, select the correct
>> diskette drive from
>> >the menu and press <enter>. You will be prompted to
>> insert the diskette and
>> >press enter when ready.
>> >5) Insert the diskette in to the correct diskette drive
>> and press enter.
>> >After about a minute it will confirm either that the
>> installation diskette
>> >was created or that the diskette is bad.
>> >6) If the diskette was bad, get a new formatted
diskette
>> and repeat the
>> >appropriate steps; otherwise, you're done with step
one.
>> >
>> >Boot from the Installation Diskette
>> >1) Make sure your system boot up sequence is A:/C: and
>> not C:/A:. This
>> >information is found in the CMOS setup. You should also
>> disable the boot
>> >sector virus protection option. If you leave the virus
>> protection option
>> >enabled then it will just get in the way.
>> >2) Shut down and turn off your computer.
>> >3) Insert the BootIt NG installation diskette in your
A:
>> drive then turn on
>> >your computer.
>> >4) If your system boots up as it normally does, see
step
>> 1, otherwise BootIt
>> >NG will start to load from the diskette.
>> >
>> >Start BING and click on Maintenance.
>> >Click on Partition Work
>> >Select the partition with the incorrect cluster size
>> >Click Resize then OK ("Checking for errors" will
appear)
>> >Click Resize Without changing the size of the partition
>> >A Warning to back-up all important data will be
displayed
>> >The resulting cluster size will also be displayed
>> >Click Continue
>> >When completed, click Close and Close again
>> >Reboot and that should do it.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Regards,
>> >Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
>> >http://dts-l.org/
>> >How to Configure Outlook Express for Internet News:
>> >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=171164
>> >
>> >"John" wrote
>> >> I keep getting a windows doesn't have enough memory
>> error
>> >> when I try to defrag or run scandisk for my D
drive. It
>> >> will scan my drive, C and E but not D. Not even in
>> DOS, I
>> >> typed A:\scandisk D: and it says it's the wrong
>> command. I
>> >> need to defrag and run scandisk on that drive soon
and I
>> >> don't know what to do. I have only the major
programs
>> >> running like maybe 5 and I even cut some of them down
>> and
>> >> I still get a memory error. Please help!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>.
>

[Bert Kinney]

Hi John,

It sounds like PM doesn't automatically apply standard
cluster sizes when resizing partitions. Bootit NG does.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


"John" wrote
> With partiton magic.......had a 80GB and resized it into 3
> drives, different sizes....
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >How did you resize the partition ?